290 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness
332 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle
196 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central
452 ... Catherine Briggs ... Doncaster North
318 ... Katharine Margaret Murphy ... Finchley and Golders Green
244 ... Hazel Exon ... Honiton and Sidmouth
354 ... Lesley Woodburn ... Islington South and Finsbury
116 ... Una Marie O'Mahony ... Kensington and Bayswater
283 ... Liz Panton ... Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend
455 ... Linda Jane Law ... Norwich South
337 ... Katherine Mary Longthorp ... Oxford East
482 ... Louise McDonald ... Sheffield Heeley
295 ... Bernadette O'Malley ... South West Hertfordshire
274 ... Bev White ... St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire
286 ... Kelly Jane Oliver Dougall ... Tynemouth
363 ... Seonaid Dawn Barber ... West Worcestershire
Original thread here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5092728-party-of-women-has-16-candidates-standing-for-election-on-4-july-2024
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IwantToRetire · 05/07/2024 19:11
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Beefcurtains79 · 06/07/2024 16:57
The usual suspects here to shut the women up.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:40
You think men are going to take over breastfeeding and menopause groups?
You think despite the Cass Report doctors are going to start treating teenagers with surgery and puberty blockers again? I don't think there is any evidence this will happen at all.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 15:26
It never happens does it, except all the times it actually does!
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 15:23
if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men
Kindly, get a hold of yourself. This is not going to happen. It's scaremongering.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 15:04
'@CassieMaddox I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.'
Fine. Let it all happen then.
You know, we really have tried our very best - and will continue to do so. But if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men - for whatever reason, but I bet it's not wholesome - then at least I know we played our part in trying to get it stopped, and supported people like KJK in doing so.
And there will be a huge list of people that we will hold to account. And we will hold them to account, when the time comes.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:58
What was the response when you contacted the Head of PSHE and the Headteacher?
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:54
I speak to my dc. What they understand of gender ideology is from teaching at their schools.
Nothing to do with the press. They only know about it from classes
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:52
Well, like I said, how widespread and what form these things take are debatable.
I've had parents contacting me - genuinely concerned - they listened to false information about our school and practice. On a couple of occasions, a misunderstanding was to do with language usage. I'd rather they spoke to us than say, the Daily Mail.
I would encourage parents to do as suggested and ensure that they understand the curriculum, particularly PSHE. This will normally be on the Learning Platform of the school website.
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:48
It must be widespread enough for dc here to be know about gender ideology
In two different schools
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32
children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 17:05
I don’t doubt my dc so no need. I want it changed but that’s political in origin.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:58
What was the response when you contacted the Head of PSHE and the Headteacher?
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:54
I speak to my dc. What they understand of gender ideology is from teaching at their schools.
Nothing to do with the press. They only know about it from classes
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:52
Well, like I said, how widespread and what form these things take are debatable.
I've had parents contacting me - genuinely concerned - they listened to false information about our school and practice. On a couple of occasions, a misunderstanding was to do with language usage. I'd rather they spoke to us than say, the Daily Mail.
I would encourage parents to do as suggested and ensure that they understand the curriculum, particularly PSHE. This will normally be on the Learning Platform of the school website.
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:48
It must be widespread enough for dc here to be know about gender ideology
In two different schools
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32
children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 17:06
Right. Your decision. In your situation I would definitely contact both.
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 17:05
I don’t doubt my dc so no need. I want it changed but that’s political in origin.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:58
What was the response when you contacted the Head of PSHE and the Headteacher?
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:54
I speak to my dc. What they understand of gender ideology is from teaching at their schools.
Nothing to do with the press. They only know about it from classes
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:52
Well, like I said, how widespread and what form these things take are debatable.
I've had parents contacting me - genuinely concerned - they listened to false information about our school and practice. On a couple of occasions, a misunderstanding was to do with language usage. I'd rather they spoke to us than say, the Daily Mail.
I would encourage parents to do as suggested and ensure that they understand the curriculum, particularly PSHE. This will normally be on the Learning Platform of the school website.
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:48
It must be widespread enough for dc here to be know about gender ideology
In two different schools
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32
children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 17:05
I never told you anything, @rabbitwoman . I never made any unsubstantiated claims.
I would, however, prefer to look at evidence and verify some of the claims, which I will do.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:40
You think men are going to take over breastfeeding and menopause groups?
You think despite the Cass Report doctors are going to start treating teenagers with surgery and puberty blockers again? I don't think there is any evidence this will happen at all.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 15:26
It never happens does it, except all the times it actually does!
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 15:23
if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men
Kindly, get a hold of yourself. This is not going to happen. It's scaremongering.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 15:04
'@CassieMaddox I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.'
Fine. Let it all happen then.
You know, we really have tried our very best - and will continue to do so. But if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men - for whatever reason, but I bet it's not wholesome - then at least I know we played our part in trying to get it stopped, and supported people like KJK in doing so.
And there will be a huge list of people that we will hold to account. And we will hold them to account, when the time comes.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 17:14
I was challenging "children are taught..."
Not all children are taught this.
This is why I repeatedly suggest that concerned parents contact the school if they have any concerns.
I don't see what's wrong with that.
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:54
I speak to my dc. What they understand of gender ideology is from teaching at their schools.
Nothing to do with the press. They only know about it from classes
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:52
Well, like I said, how widespread and what form these things take are debatable.
I've had parents contacting me - genuinely concerned - they listened to false information about our school and practice. On a couple of occasions, a misunderstanding was to do with language usage. I'd rather they spoke to us than say, the Daily Mail.
I would encourage parents to do as suggested and ensure that they understand the curriculum, particularly PSHE. This will normally be on the Learning Platform of the school website.
EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:48
It must be widespread enough for dc here to be know about gender ideology
In two different schools
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32
children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.
Beefcurtains79 · 06/07/2024 16:57
The usual suspects here to shut the women up.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:40
You think men are going to take over breastfeeding and menopause groups?
You think despite the Cass Report doctors are going to start treating teenagers with surgery and puberty blockers again? I don't think there is any evidence this will happen at all.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 15:26
It never happens does it, except all the times it actually does!
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 15:23
if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men
Kindly, get a hold of yourself. This is not going to happen. It's scaremongering.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 15:04
'@CassieMaddox I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.'
Fine. Let it all happen then.
You know, we really have tried our very best - and will continue to do so. But if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men - for whatever reason, but I bet it's not wholesome - then at least I know we played our part in trying to get it stopped, and supported people like KJK in doing so.
And there will be a huge list of people that we will hold to account. And we will hold them to account, when the time comes.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 17:19
Why is it so far fetched when they have shoehorned themselves into every other women only spaces including rape and domestic violence support groups and refuges. There's loads of them who want to be "pregnant"and "breastfeed" these are common fetishes in the community from what i've seen and some have suckled babies with their vile moob juice, that has already happened.
Who knows what will happen in the future with puberty blockers and surgery for teens, we can only hope that it is a thing of the past thanks to the Cass review.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:40
You think men are going to take over breastfeeding and menopause groups?
You think despite the Cass Report doctors are going to start treating teenagers with surgery and puberty blockers again? I don't think there is any evidence this will happen at all.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 15:26
It never happens does it, except all the times it actually does!
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 15:23
if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men
Kindly, get a hold of yourself. This is not going to happen. It's scaremongering.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 15:04
'@CassieMaddox I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.'
Fine. Let it all happen then.
You know, we really have tried our very best - and will continue to do so. But if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men - for whatever reason, but I bet it's not wholesome - then at least I know we played our part in trying to get it stopped, and supported people like KJK in doing so.
And there will be a huge list of people that we will hold to account. And we will hold them to account, when the time comes.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 17:28
So, if not all children are being taught this, why are ANY children being taught this?
How did this get into some schools - and cause chaos, quite frankly - but not others?
If its not generally accepted, and should not be, why are some schools saying it is? Why are teachers afraid of saying anything?
Why is it, when we do, we get told we are bigots and fascists? Or, we get told it is NOT happening.
Which you have just done, @EmpressOfTheThread . And then run off.
OK, I get it. You think it's a panic, you think teachers like me are exaggerating? What if we are not? What if real, irreversible harm is being done in SOME schools?
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 17:14
I was challenging "children are taught..."
Not all children are taught this.
This is why I repeatedly suggest that concerned parents contact the school if they have any concerns.
I don't see what's wrong with that.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 17:51
Men suckling babies is a conspiracy theory. There is no evidence a male can lactate enough to feed a baby. And even less evidence that enough males have those fetishes to overrun breastfeeding and menopause groups.
It's scaremongering that's happened because of the strange politicisation of the debate. I'm really hoping it goes away now for a few years at least.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 17:19
Why is it so far fetched when they have shoehorned themselves into every other women only spaces including rape and domestic violence support groups and refuges. There's loads of them who want to be "pregnant"and "breastfeed" these are common fetishes in the community from what i've seen and some have suckled babies with their vile moob juice, that has already happened.
Who knows what will happen in the future with puberty blockers and surgery for teens, we can only hope that it is a thing of the past thanks to the Cass review.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:40
You think men are going to take over breastfeeding and menopause groups?
You think despite the Cass Report doctors are going to start treating teenagers with surgery and puberty blockers again? I don't think there is any evidence this will happen at all.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 15:26
It never happens does it, except all the times it actually does!
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 15:23
if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men
Kindly, get a hold of yourself. This is not going to happen. It's scaremongering.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 15:04
'@CassieMaddox I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.'
Fine. Let it all happen then.
You know, we really have tried our very best - and will continue to do so. But if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men - for whatever reason, but I bet it's not wholesome - then at least I know we played our part in trying to get it stopped, and supported people like KJK in doing so.
And there will be a huge list of people that we will hold to account. And we will hold them to account, when the time comes.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 17:05
I never told you anything, @rabbitwoman . I never made any unsubstantiated claims.
I would, however, prefer to look at evidence and verify some of the claims, which I will do.
NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 17:02
I have a 'new government resolution' (I never do new year ones, but this'll do!): DO NOT ENGAGE! In the absence of a 'block poster' option, I'm going to try very very hard to simply grey rock. Better for my blood pressure (and delete count!) that way. 😁
Beefcurtains79 · 06/07/2024 16:57
The usual suspects here to shut the women up.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:40
You think men are going to take over breastfeeding and menopause groups?
You think despite the Cass Report doctors are going to start treating teenagers with surgery and puberty blockers again? I don't think there is any evidence this will happen at all.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 15:26
It never happens does it, except all the times it actually does!
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 15:23
if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men
Kindly, get a hold of yourself. This is not going to happen. It's scaremongering.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 15:04
'@CassieMaddox I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.'
Fine. Let it all happen then.
You know, we really have tried our very best - and will continue to do so. But if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men - for whatever reason, but I bet it's not wholesome - then at least I know we played our part in trying to get it stopped, and supported people like KJK in doing so.
And there will be a huge list of people that we will hold to account. And we will hold them to account, when the time comes.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 17:58
No it's not a conspiracy theory at all, there are threads about it if you want to go look. It's not scaremongering, if it's already happening.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 17:51
Men suckling babies is a conspiracy theory. There is no evidence a male can lactate enough to feed a baby. And even less evidence that enough males have those fetishes to overrun breastfeeding and menopause groups.
It's scaremongering that's happened because of the strange politicisation of the debate. I'm really hoping it goes away now for a few years at least.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 17:19
Why is it so far fetched when they have shoehorned themselves into every other women only spaces including rape and domestic violence support groups and refuges. There's loads of them who want to be "pregnant"and "breastfeed" these are common fetishes in the community from what i've seen and some have suckled babies with their vile moob juice, that has already happened.
Who knows what will happen in the future with puberty blockers and surgery for teens, we can only hope that it is a thing of the past thanks to the Cass review.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:40
You think men are going to take over breastfeeding and menopause groups?
You think despite the Cass Report doctors are going to start treating teenagers with surgery and puberty blockers again? I don't think there is any evidence this will happen at all.
ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 15:26
It never happens does it, except all the times it actually does!
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 15:23
if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men
Kindly, get a hold of yourself. This is not going to happen. It's scaremongering.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 15:04
'@CassieMaddox I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.'
Fine. Let it all happen then.
You know, we really have tried our very best - and will continue to do so. But if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men - for whatever reason, but I bet it's not wholesome - then at least I know we played our part in trying to get it stopped, and supported people like KJK in doing so.
And there will be a huge list of people that we will hold to account. And we will hold them to account, when the time comes.
There are plenty of threads regurgitating the conspiracy theory, nothing that proves that trans women can lactate enough to feed a baby and even less that enough TW are trying to, to impact breastfeeding groups 
MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/07/2024 18:20
Someone ought to tell the labour transactivist claiming to "breast feed" their baby that they don't exist according to a poster on this thread:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/07/03/the-bizarre-case-of-the-breastfeeding-dad/
And of course, good old Pink News were swiftly on the case: (apologies for the link to such a conspiracy theory site)
https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/28/trans-women-breastfeeding-explainer-research/
This labour MP didn't think it ws a conspiracy theory:
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/23642716.norwich-mp-clive-lewis-criticised-trans-breastfeeding/
Google will take you to links about the hospital that promoted men feeding babies with their secretions.
But of course this doesn't happen....... until it does
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