290 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness
332 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle
196 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central
452 ... Catherine Briggs ... Doncaster North
318 ... Katharine Margaret Murphy ... Finchley and Golders Green
244 ... Hazel Exon ... Honiton and Sidmouth
354 ... Lesley Woodburn ... Islington South and Finsbury
116 ... Una Marie O'Mahony ... Kensington and Bayswater
283 ... Liz Panton ... Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend
455 ... Linda Jane Law ... Norwich South
337 ... Katherine Mary Longthorp ... Oxford East
482 ... Louise McDonald ... Sheffield Heeley
295 ... Bernadette O'Malley ... South West Hertfordshire
274 ... Bev White ... St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire
286 ... Kelly Jane Oliver Dougall ... Tynemouth
363 ... Seonaid Dawn Barber ... West Worcestershire
Original thread here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5092728-party-of-women-has-16-candidates-standing-for-election-on-4-july-2024
Party of Women – number of votes for 16 women brave enough to take a public stand
IwantToRetire · 05/07/2024 19:11
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1 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness 2 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle 3 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central 4 ... Catherine Brigg...
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rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 15:04
'@CassieMaddox I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.'
Fine. Let it all happen then.
You know, we really have tried our very best - and will continue to do so. But if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men - for whatever reason, but I bet it's not wholesome - then at least I know we played our part in trying to get it stopped, and supported people like KJK in doing so.
And there will be a huge list of people that we will hold to account. And we will hold them to account, when the time comes.
CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 15:23
if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men
Kindly, get a hold of yourself. This is not going to happen. It's scaremongering.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 15:04
'@CassieMaddox I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.'
Fine. Let it all happen then.
You know, we really have tried our very best - and will continue to do so. But if no one will listen, and self ID becomes the norm, and sterilising gay children and encouraging irreversible surgery resumes, unchecked, and it's all rolled out in schools like fact, if it's all men taking women's medals and opportunities, if breast feeding groups and menopause groups and female group therapy become overwhelmed with men - for whatever reason, but I bet it's not wholesome - then at least I know we played our part in trying to get it stopped, and supported people like KJK in doing so.
And there will be a huge list of people that we will hold to account. And we will hold them to account, when the time comes.
PlanetJanette · 06/07/2024 15:07
No - Jackie Doyle Price stood in this election and her vote share fell by nearly 40 points.
Labours vote share is reflective of an extraordinarily efficient vote management campaign - unlike previous years they didn’t bother building up huge surpluses in safe seats, and pushing up their own vote in constituencies where other parties came second. A different approach would likely have seen a higher vote share but lower seat total.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 11:42
Jackie Doyle Price was standing down anyway...which is a shame in my view...as she was solid and had a firm grasp of the issue.
Labour % share of the vote was down in most places. Overall the vote share only increased by 2% in spite of winning a lot more seats. 35% of the electorate voted Labour - on a 60 % turnout. In Labour strongholds the Labour vote was down considerably - as people either voted for the Greens, for Reform, for independents or else spoiled their ballots.
Kemi Badenoch and Victoria Atkins remain for the Conservatives, and are the two with the most competence on this issue..
PlanetJanette · 06/07/2024 09:28
The Greens won four seats, not two.
Two of them in constituencies with some of the highest proportion of lesbian and gay voters - which rather suggests that claims that GC viewpoints are widely held by ‘same sex attracted people’ are wide of the mark.
Meanwhile, it was a bad election for explicitly GC politicians. Cherry, Gates, Hanvey, Doyle Price all gone. Even Duffield saw her votes fall by 10,000 and probably held on because of the general pro Labour headwinds in this election.
rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 08:56
OK, we'll I have done some rough maths.
Candidates only stood in 16 constituencies and got 5077 votes between them.
If candidates had stood in all 650 constituencies that extrapolates out to 206000 votes.
Personally, I thought this campaign was a huge mistake simply because it was always going to look as though it was an unpopular opinion if so few people voted for it. This will now be the new talking point whenever this comes up - 'noone agrees with you, Noone voted for you' and unless you then have the space to explain that it was never about winning but bringing the issue to debate, it's always going to look as though KJK completely failed.
I don't think she did, tho. Puberty blockers banned in Scotland. The SNP annihilated. The greens only got 2 MPs.
I think keir and Wes will listen, because any harm done will be on their watch now. And they're not stupid.
So let's be optimistic. And we'll done KJK and those other brave candidates xxx
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 14:56
Oh I couldn't agree more about Miriam Cates! Also, Rees Mogg. At least Badenoch had her majority reduced.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32
children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 15:35
Yes, they are in many schools. I know this as an ex teacher, with a daughter currently teaching. A lot of it is down to whether there are activist teachers in the school.
Did you ever take a look at the guidance for teaching about gender and sexuality in Welsh schools? If not perhaps you should.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32
children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 15:35
Yes, they are in many schools. I know this as an ex teacher, with a daughter currently teaching. A lot of it is down to whether there are activist teachers in the school.
Did you ever take a look at the guidance for teaching about gender and sexuality in Welsh schools? If not perhaps you should.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32
children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.
Welsh schools and trans guidance - hung out to dry - Merched Cymru
Merched Cymru's report on 'trans toolkits' in Welsh schools uncovers the use of problematic and discredited resources.
https://merchedcymru.wales/2024/03/18/welsh-schools-and-trans-guidance-hung-out-to-dry/
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 15:33
Most Labour MPs had their majorities reduced too ( other than newly elected ones, that is) - which is why Labour only polled 35% of the vote -in spite of far more seats.
EditedEmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 14:56
Oh I couldn't agree more about Miriam Cates! Also, Rees Mogg. At least Badenoch had her majority reduced.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:38
Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with guidelines for all schools.
I'm a teacher and get fed up with all this misinformation. "Activist" teachers?! They have to follow the curriculum. Same as everyone.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 15:35
Yes, they are in many schools. I know this as an ex teacher, with a daughter currently teaching. A lot of it is down to whether there are activist teachers in the school.
Did you ever take a look at the guidance for teaching about gender and sexuality in Welsh schools? If not perhaps you should.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32
children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:45
"many schools in England"
Which schools?
MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 15:52
I have no respect for anyone who votes for a party whose leader think it's ok to deny a section of society housing and employment.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 15:53
You don't honestly think I'd name the specific schools in question? Whether or not you believe or accept - doesn't detract from the truth of what I'm saying.
EditedEmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:45
"many schools in England"
Which schools?
NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 15:53
I'm sure everybody who voted against your desires is GUTTED about that.
MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 15:52
I have no respect for anyone who votes for a party whose leader think it's ok to deny a section of society housing and employment.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:56
No, I certainly did not think you would. At all.
Please don't claim that many schools are involved in this because it is genuinely alarming to parents. Claims about how widespread this is can be very damaging.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 15:53
You don't honestly think I'd name the specific schools in question? Whether or not you believe or accept - doesn't detract from the truth of what I'm saying.
EditedEmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:45
"many schools in England"
Which schools?
MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 15:58
I don't give a shit how they feel. And I don't care about people voting against my desires, I care about them voting against people's rights
NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 15:53
I'm sure everybody who voted against your desires is GUTTED about that.
MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 15:52
I have no respect for anyone who votes for a party whose leader think it's ok to deny a section of society housing and employment.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 16:00
I'm not claiming anything....I'm telling you the facts of what is going on in many schools. Yes, it is alarming.....and parents need to be aware. Ask the school in question for a look at their resources, ask the head directly what is going on in PSHE, and ask your own children too.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:56
No, I certainly did not think you would. At all.
Please don't claim that many schools are involved in this because it is genuinely alarming to parents. Claims about how widespread this is can be very damaging.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 15:53
You don't honestly think I'd name the specific schools in question? Whether or not you believe or accept - doesn't detract from the truth of what I'm saying.
EditedEmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:45
"many schools in England"
Which schools?
NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 16:00
Labour are going to remove women's rights if their manifesto is to be believed (as would Greens and LDs). Are you lacking respect for those voters too?
MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 15:58
I don't give a shit how they feel. And I don't care about people voting against my desires, I care about them voting against people's rights
NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 15:53
I'm sure everybody who voted against your desires is GUTTED about that.
MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 15:52
I have no respect for anyone who votes for a party whose leader think it's ok to deny a section of society housing and employment.
MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 16:01
Labour are going to remove women's rights to housing and employment?
NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 16:00
Labour are going to remove women's rights if their manifesto is to be believed (as would Greens and LDs). Are you lacking respect for those voters too?
MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 15:58
I don't give a shit how they feel. And I don't care about people voting against my desires, I care about them voting against people's rights
NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 15:53
I'm sure everybody who voted against your desires is GUTTED about that.
MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 15:52
I have no respect for anyone who votes for a party whose leader think it's ok to deny a section of society housing and employment.
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EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:01
What school in question? I see many PSHE resources. My children are adults.
This doesn't make sense.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 16:00
I'm not claiming anything....I'm telling you the facts of what is going on in many schools. Yes, it is alarming.....and parents need to be aware. Ask the school in question for a look at their resources, ask the head directly what is going on in PSHE, and ask your own children too.
EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:56
No, I certainly did not think you would. At all.
Please don't claim that many schools are involved in this because it is genuinely alarming to parents. Claims about how widespread this is can be very damaging.
Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 15:53
You don't honestly think I'd name the specific schools in question? Whether or not you believe or accept - doesn't detract from the truth of what I'm saying.
EditedEmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:45
"many schools in England"
Which schools?
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