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Party of Women – number of votes for 16 women brave enough to take a public stand

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IwantToRetire · 05/07/2024 19:11

290 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness
332 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle
196 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central
452 ... Catherine Briggs ... Doncaster North
318 ... Katharine Margaret Murphy ... Finchley and Golders Green
244 ... Hazel Exon ... Honiton and Sidmouth
354 ... Lesley Woodburn ... Islington South and Finsbury
116 ... Una Marie O'Mahony ... Kensington and Bayswater
283 ... Liz Panton ... Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend
455 ... Linda Jane Law ... Norwich South
337 ... Katherine Mary Longthorp ... Oxford East
482 ... Louise McDonald ... Sheffield Heeley
295 ... Bernadette O'Malley ... South West Hertfordshire
274 ... Bev White ... St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire
286 ... Kelly Jane Oliver Dougall ... Tynemouth
363 ... Seonaid Dawn Barber ... West Worcestershire

Original thread here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5092728-party-of-women-has-16-candidates-standing-for-election-on-4-july-2024

Party of Women has 16 candidates standing for election on 4 July 2024 | Mumsnet

1 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness 2 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle 3 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central 4 ... Catherine Brigg...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5092728-party-of-women-has-16-candidates-standing-for-election-on-4-july-2024

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MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 16:06

NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 16:03

You said voting against people's rights. Women's rights are people's rights. You didn't specify housing and employment in the subsequent post.

I'm sorry you can't coherently follow a conversation.

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NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 16:08

MotherFeministWoman · 06/07/2024 16:06

I'm sorry you can't coherently follow a conversation.

I'm perfectly able to, thank you.

You specifically said voting against people's rights, not specifying you still meant only housing and employment.

You need to tighten your prose.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 16:09

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/07/2024 16:06

The school that your children attend. If parents have concerns, they should request a meeting with the school their children attend and ask to see their teaching resources; and ask about their approach to teaching gender identity theory.

My children are all adults now, too, and I left teaching in 2010 when trans simply was not a thing in schools, and nobody had heard of 'gender identity'. But it is now. There has even been a child in my granddaughter's primary school was came back after covid identifying as a boy, and telling her friends that they were transphobic for misgendering her. They, understandably, were very upset. They were only 10 years old.

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Have you heard of 'Transgender Trend'? A group of professionals who work with children, either as teachers, other professionals, or parents - who produce alternative teaching resources to those produced by the activist organisations.

My daughter handed the headteacher of my granddaughter's school their pack - because until the episode mentioned above - she had not come across this before.




https://www.transgendertrend.com

Transgender Trend - Who Are We? - Transgender Trend

Transgender Trend is a UK organisation advocating for evidence-based care of gender dysphoric children and science-based teaching in schools.

https://www.transgendertrend.com/

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/07/2024 16:12

EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:03

Oh I think you were speaking generally.
This would be good if parents did check because they'd find out that the pshe resources are nothing to be concerned about.
They should definitely seek to reassure themselves. As I do with many anxious parents.

You've really never heard of this Empress?

https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/families-children-and-learning/information-about-our-trans-inclusion-schools-toolkit

Maybe have a read of this thread (from a teacher) detailing the countless ways activist teachers in some schools are supporting transitioning children:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5047890-after-the-cass-review-what-are-they-going-to-do-about-schools

And the NEU attempting to undermine safeguarding children in schools?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/05/union-against-schools-telling-parents-child-changes-gender/

It's great if your school has no truck with this nonsense - I know of a number of schools where Heads have successfully kept Stonewall & other trans lobby groups outside the gates. And I know of others where activist teachers have been allowed to dictate policy - to the detriment of children.

Information about our Trans Inclusion Schools Toolkit

We've answered questions you may have about the latest version of our trans inclusion guidance to schools.

https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/families-children-and-learning/information-about-our-trans-inclusion-schools-toolkit

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EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:15

We have no truck with this. Big academy trust.
Nor the other 2 I am in regular contact with.
Parents on here should definitely inform themselves of the PSHE content of their school because they may believe these claims about all or most schools.

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Mishmaj · 06/07/2024 16:18

EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32

children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.

Yes, they are. Two of mine have, indeed, been taught this year in their schools (at y6 and y9) that there are multiple genders.
Not to mention at senior school Pride club (which DD says is mainly filled by autistic kids) where they are told by senior pupils - but supervised by a teacher - that anything said is not to be repeated out of pride club. So the kids out themselves as trans and socially transition at pride club and are told not to tell anyone. These kids are generally ND. It’s shocking. And yes of course I have contacted the school multiple times and they have yet to answer.
It is absolutely happening in schools, even since the Cass report and despite guidelines. It is naive to think that the guidelines are being respected.
edited to correct a typo

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/07/2024 16:20

EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:15

We have no truck with this. Big academy trust.
Nor the other 2 I am in regular contact with.
Parents on here should definitely inform themselves of the PSHE content of their school because they may believe these claims about all or most schools.

That's good to hear.
As well as the PSHE curriculum parents need to check for schools being signed up to Stonewall (who lobby for the removal of single sex spaces, sport and promote the transitioning of children in schools). LGBT clubs that are mixed age, breach countless safeguarding principles and open up older children and staff to allegations of grooming. Equality policies that misrepresent the protected characteristics.

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EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:22

I am not naïve. I am questioning how widespread this is and whether what is happening is as claimed.
I prefer to use evidence. I do intend to look further into this, as it's not my experience and we have firm guidelines. I will however check some of these details.
Excuse my scepticism on the matter, but I've read too many threads on identifying as cats and other nonsense.

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CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:40

ChishiyaBat · 06/07/2024 15:26

It never happens does it, except all the times it actually does!

You think men are going to take over breastfeeding and menopause groups?
You think despite the Cass Report doctors are going to start treating teenagers with surgery and puberty blockers again? I don't think there is any evidence this will happen at all.

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CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:43

NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 16:03

You said voting against people's rights. Women's rights are people's rights. You didn't specify housing and employment in the subsequent post.

What rights are Labour removing from women fluffy? Specifically....Hmm

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CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:44

EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:22

I am not naïve. I am questioning how widespread this is and whether what is happening is as claimed.
I prefer to use evidence. I do intend to look further into this, as it's not my experience and we have firm guidelines. I will however check some of these details.
Excuse my scepticism on the matter, but I've read too many threads on identifying as cats and other nonsense.

Quite - thank you

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EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:44

I've read the Labour Manifesto, read the details from my Labour MP, listened to Keir's press conference and can't detect any suggestion of the removal of women's rights.

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turnipsarelush · 06/07/2024 16:45

rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 09:04

I think they are OK with the idea of not getting their money back.

It's much like those employment tribunals that cost millions of pounds between them - Forstater, Bailey et al, they would never recoup the money it cost, even with the record payouts they got. But it wasn't about that, and they achieved so much more.

Money well spent, all of it.

Ah ok fair enough. Brave of people to run when they aren't expecting many votes though, whatever their beliefs

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turnipsarelush · 06/07/2024 16:46

Mishmaj · 06/07/2024 16:18

Yes, they are. Two of mine have, indeed, been taught this year in their schools (at y6 and y9) that there are multiple genders.
Not to mention at senior school Pride club (which DD says is mainly filled by autistic kids) where they are told by senior pupils - but supervised by a teacher - that anything said is not to be repeated out of pride club. So the kids out themselves as trans and socially transition at pride club and are told not to tell anyone. These kids are generally ND. It’s shocking. And yes of course I have contacted the school multiple times and they have yet to answer.
It is absolutely happening in schools, even since the Cass report and despite guidelines. It is naive to think that the guidelines are being respected.
edited to correct a typo

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Isn't the whole point of pride to be proud and not hide who you are?

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EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:48

EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32

children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.

It must be widespread enough for dc here to be know about gender ideology

In two different schools

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CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:49

See what Labour have done in their first day in office.

But of course they are going to "take away womens rights" Hmm

So much scaremongering

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1809255883815211082

The use of puberty blockers has been halted in Scotland.

Our government chose a nice, quiet news day to slip out the announcement that they'll be implementing the recommendations of the #CassReview.

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NoWordForFluffy · 06/07/2024 16:49

EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:48

It must be widespread enough for dc here to be know about gender ideology

In two different schools

But it doesn't happen. One person KNOWS that it doesn't happen in ANY school in the country because it doesn't happen in theirs. ����

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turnipsarelush · 06/07/2024 16:50

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 14:21

Badenoch lost 26% of her vote share and was lucky to keep her seat.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001402

Thank fuck Miriam Cates has gone, and Rees Mogg.

I think the results show the MN obsession with "what a woman is" isn't replicated by the voter base.

I don't think it does. I think that it is one issue of many that people had to decide on

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EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:52

EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:48

It must be widespread enough for dc here to be know about gender ideology

In two different schools

Well, like I said, how widespread and what form these things take are debatable.
I've had parents contacting me - genuinely concerned - they listened to false information about our school and practice. On a couple of occasions, a misunderstanding was to do with language usage. I'd rather they spoke to us than say, the Daily Mail.
I would encourage parents to do as suggested and ensure that they understand the curriculum, particularly PSHE. This will normally be on the Learning Platform of the school website.

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EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:54

EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:52

Well, like I said, how widespread and what form these things take are debatable.
I've had parents contacting me - genuinely concerned - they listened to false information about our school and practice. On a couple of occasions, a misunderstanding was to do with language usage. I'd rather they spoke to us than say, the Daily Mail.
I would encourage parents to do as suggested and ensure that they understand the curriculum, particularly PSHE. This will normally be on the Learning Platform of the school website.

I speak to my dc. What they understand of gender ideology is from teaching at their schools.

Nothing to do with the press. They only know about it from classes

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Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 06/07/2024 16:56

iseegulls · 05/07/2024 19:28

So KJK got the second lowest votes out of all her candidates?

I know this place is overrun with the KJK fan club these days, but honestly, that's hilarious IMO.

Given her narc tendancies she'll not be happy with that at all.

Sorry not sorry.

You realise this is the board for women’s rights? So posters are likely to be in favour of women who stand up for women? Not exactly surprising.

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Beefcurtains79 · 06/07/2024 16:57

CassieMaddox · 06/07/2024 16:40

You think men are going to take over breastfeeding and menopause groups?
You think despite the Cass Report doctors are going to start treating teenagers with surgery and puberty blockers again? I don't think there is any evidence this will happen at all.

The usual suspects here to shut the women up.

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EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 16:58

EasternStandard · 06/07/2024 16:54

I speak to my dc. What they understand of gender ideology is from teaching at their schools.

Nothing to do with the press. They only know about it from classes

What was the response when you contacted the Head of PSHE and the Headteacher?

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Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 06/07/2024 17:00

Thanks and congratulations to all who stood for PoW xxx

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rabbitwoman · 06/07/2024 17:01

EmpressOfTheThread · 06/07/2024 15:32

children are already being taught gender nonsense in schools.
No, they are not. There are very strict guidelines.
Check your facts before you make unfounded accusations.

I teach in a school.

I have been given resources to deliver.

I have had meetings with our safeguarding lead about how it's not compliant with our guidelines. I got it changed.

I have sat in an assembly when the assistant head told all of yr10 that transwomen threw the first brick at Stonewall.

I see all the kids - and a few staff - wanting to change pronouns and spouting Stonewall ideology as fact.

I have a family member who is detransitioning - after having his penis and testicles removed.

Don't tell me it's not happening.

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