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Anyone else here voting Reform UK?

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Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 17:56

I am, Tories can’t be trusted and got us into the mess we are in now and we all know that lib/lab/snp and green will do to women’s rights.

i don’t expect reform to win much but I read to say that amongst young males labour and Reform are both polling at 35% Among young women though Reform are polling very badly and Labour are polling exceptionally high. I guess if women are happy to vote their rights away that is their choice but I won’t.

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Neurodiversitydoctor · 04/07/2024 21:31

Without immigration the NHS would fall over tomorrow.

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VoteOutToHelpOut · 04/07/2024 21:31

I wonder if some posters will mysteriously depart (or name change) at 10pm?

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mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 21:34

Neurodiversitydoctor · 04/07/2024 21:30

I voted Labour I have no love of Kier Stammar but have have worked in the NHS for 25 years and I have never seen it as bad as it is now. I believe they are the only credible choice who will actually attempt to resuscitate it ( whether they wil suceed is another question). I had my babies in the Blair years and we benefitted massively from maternity rights, free childcare and sure start, this is another area I believe Labour will do all they can to support young families. I am well aware that my choice means I might well pay more tax ( including on my pension) than I otherwise would, but for me I would do that so as not to effectively pull the ladder up on young parents starting out now. If I am lucky enough to have grandchildren I would like them to benefit from a functioning health system, decent state schools and most of all a healthier and happier society.

I did toy with voting Green but round here that would have been a wasted vote.Nigel Farage cannot wait to dismantle the NHS and sell it off to the highest bidder.

i completely respect that 25 years is a long time and you are entitled to do what you believe, how was covid? did you catch it while you was working through it? thats genuine question, i hear it was manic during those 2 years x

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MalcolmTuckersSwearBox · 04/07/2024 21:34

VoteOutToHelpOut · 04/07/2024 21:31

I wonder if some posters will mysteriously depart (or name change) at 10pm?

Turn into pumpkins, you mean?

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Anonym00se · 04/07/2024 21:36

mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 21:25

and thats 100% legit is it? where else does it say this? only on that page? they will do anything to stop reform uk winning!

other evidence or just one screen shot ?

Here you go, two for the price of one!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13598359/amp/Reform-candidate-Angela-Carter-Begbie-says-Jews-run-banks-party-remains-silent-calls-suspend-her.html

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TakeMe2Insanity · 04/07/2024 21:37

Auvergne63 · 04/07/2024 18:19

I don't vote for fascists.

This.

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RosaMoline · 04/07/2024 21:37

@mumofoneand2dogs

Here’s the proof you demanded:

Anyone else here voting Reform UK?
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Littlebitpsycho · 04/07/2024 21:40

I voted reform.

Nobody could possibly call me racist - my current and previous partners are foreign.

I just can't vote for anyone who thinks that women have dicks, which in one swoop wipes out everyone except Tory and Reform 🤷‍♀️

I simply do not see how it's racist to say that we should look after our own people before helping others. Every other country manages to do this so why not us?

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cardibach · 04/07/2024 21:41

Littlebitpsycho · 04/07/2024 21:40

I voted reform.

Nobody could possibly call me racist - my current and previous partners are foreign.

I just can't vote for anyone who thinks that women have dicks, which in one swoop wipes out everyone except Tory and Reform 🤷‍♀️

I simply do not see how it's racist to say that we should look after our own people before helping others. Every other country manages to do this so why not us?

What are Reform going to do to look after ‘our own’?
We take a very low number of asylum seekers in comparison to other places. Why do you think we don’t look after ‘our own’? I mean, the Tories haven’t. But they could have, and still been decent to asylum seekers.

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bombaybicycle · 04/07/2024 21:43

Littlebitpsycho · 04/07/2024 21:40

I voted reform.

Nobody could possibly call me racist - my current and previous partners are foreign.

I just can't vote for anyone who thinks that women have dicks, which in one swoop wipes out everyone except Tory and Reform 🤷‍♀️

I simply do not see how it's racist to say that we should look after our own people before helping others. Every other country manages to do this so why not us?

'Foreign' isn't a race. This isn't how you proove you're not racist..

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Neurodiversitydoctor · 04/07/2024 21:43

mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 21:34

i completely respect that 25 years is a long time and you are entitled to do what you believe, how was covid? did you catch it while you was working through it? thats genuine question, i hear it was manic during those 2 years x

How was Covid ? It ebbed and flowed. It was toughest on the young doctors just starting out, they saw far too much death in their early careers.The saddest thing for me was Sept-Dec 2020 was it was so obvious how bad the wnd wave was going to be and yet those idiots in number 10, dilly- dallied about and swung from one extreme to another. We are now seeing worrying amounts of cancer being diagnosed late and in much younger people- we don't know why, there are also frightening numbers of people with significant mental health problems. The population is considerably older and sicker than we were in 2019- some of that is demographic change, but some is Covid after effects. We have a falling birth rate, pernatal mortality is on the rise, life expectancy has fallen. I sincerely doubt Mr Farage gives a monkeys' about any of this. I do at least believe Kier Stammar cares.

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Auvergne63 · 04/07/2024 21:47

Nobody could possibly call me racist - my current and previous partners are foreign.
The good old " I am not racist, I have black/brown/ foreign friends".Lol.
I simply do not see how it's racist to say that we should look after our own people before helping others.
Do tell what you are doing to help others. Do you volunteer?

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Littlebitpsycho · 04/07/2024 21:50

Auvergne63 · 04/07/2024 21:47

Nobody could possibly call me racist - my current and previous partners are foreign.
The good old " I am not racist, I have black/brown/ foreign friends".Lol.
I simply do not see how it's racist to say that we should look after our own people before helping others.
Do tell what you are doing to help others. Do you volunteer?

I do actually, and regularly donate.

At the end of the day, we live in a democracy and everyone has the right to vote however they like.

We all know Reform won't win anyway, but I refuse to vote for anyone who thinks that women have dicks. They can't. They don't. You can't change sex. The end.

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Neurodiversitydoctor · 04/07/2024 21:59

Littlebitpsycho · 04/07/2024 21:50

I do actually, and regularly donate.

At the end of the day, we live in a democracy and everyone has the right to vote however they like.

We all know Reform won't win anyway, but I refuse to vote for anyone who thinks that women have dicks. They can't. They don't. You can't change sex. The end.

I don't disagree with this, but the health service and our childrens' future is more important to me

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Littlebitpsycho · 04/07/2024 22:09

Neurodiversitydoctor · 04/07/2024 21:59

I don't disagree with this, but the health service and our childrens' future is more important to me

Unfortunately I don't think the NHS will improve without fundamental changes - until there are less chiefs and more Indians nothing will get better.

And I'd really like a future where my daughter can get changed or go to the toilet without worrying about weird men occupying her space - but I guess that won't happen now 🤦‍♀️

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Neurodiversitydoctor · 04/07/2024 22:13

At the risk of total derailing this thread - have a read of this. The NHS is not bad value for money- it has been systematically starved of funds :

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/data-and-charts/productivity-nhs-health-care-sector

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mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 22:14

MalcolmTuckersSwearBox · 04/07/2024 21:34

Turn into pumpkins, you mean?

ill change mine to reform uk

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RosaMoline · 04/07/2024 22:20

@mumofoneand2dogs - please care to answer on the proof I provided?

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mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 22:24

RosaMoline · 04/07/2024 22:20

@mumofoneand2dogs - please care to answer on the proof I provided?

where is it ?

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RosaMoline · 04/07/2024 22:26

@mumofoneand2dogs
towards the top of this page if you can be bothered to look 🙄

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Runsyd · 04/07/2024 22:28

Neurodiversitydoctor · 04/07/2024 21:31

Without immigration the NHS would fall over tomorrow.

How does the health system in Japan work so well then? There is almost no immigration there.

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mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 22:29

RosaMoline · 04/07/2024 21:37

@mumofoneand2dogs

Here’s the proof you demanded:

video evidence? thats just a post you have screenshotted? there is no name who posted it, people are out to get him no matter what because he is getting more votes then what they thought! send me a link of him saying that with this years time and date. then i will give you and apology.

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Perfect28 · 04/07/2024 22:31

Sorry OP you totally lost me on 'scrap the equalities act'.

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mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 22:33

Runsyd · 04/07/2024 22:28

How does the health system in Japan work so well then? There is almost no immigration there.

well said.x

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DaisyCat33 · 04/07/2024 22:38

Guessing you missed the part where a Reform candidate said women are the "sponging gender" and healthcare for women shouldn't be free so that the life expectancy gap between men and women could be equalised.

Yeah basically Reform want women to die sooner. You think they give a shit about you?

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