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Anyone else here voting Reform UK?

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Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 17:56

I am, Tories can’t be trusted and got us into the mess we are in now and we all know that lib/lab/snp and green will do to women’s rights.

i don’t expect reform to win much but I read to say that amongst young males labour and Reform are both polling at 35% Among young women though Reform are polling very badly and Labour are polling exceptionally high. I guess if women are happy to vote their rights away that is their choice but I won’t.

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VerySadCase · 04/07/2024 18:37

Is this satire?

JurassicClark · 04/07/2024 18:38

Topofthemountain · 04/07/2024 18:28

The fact you think Reform care about women's rights is quite endearing.

Personally I think it’s a bit concerning. Maybe her friends should stage an intervention.

What part of lauding Andrew Tate made you think Reform was a party for women, @Rsfk35 ?

I would rather poke myself in the eye with a knitting needle than vote for those racist shitheels.

Radiatorvalves · 04/07/2024 18:40

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:34

I see. I could ask for evidence but I’m guessing you must be one of those left wing people who call women’s right campaigners and anyone else they don’t agree with fascists? Do you really believe that though? Or is it just a handy label to smear people with? I can never actually tell if leftists really believe all the things they claim to believe.

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Given all the thoroughly unpleasant, racist comments made by Reform candidates - all on record- and the similarities with the polices of Moseley, the “fascist” label is accurate.

I believe in women’s rights. I believe in human rights. I don’t believe Reform do.

peebles32 · 04/07/2024 18:41

I live in a predominantly Tory area and I am amazed how many people are voting Reform. The whole thing is a mess.

littleburn · 04/07/2024 18:43

What’s wrong with scrapping the equalities act? I just don’t see any problem with that at all. I’m old and can remember what things were like pre-2010 and they were fine as I remember it.

Wow! You do realise the Equality Act 2010 incorporated and replaced the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, Equal Pay Act 1970, Race Relations Act 1976 etc etc. Scrap the Equality Act and all of those protections disappear. That's what Reform wants for you.

CalamitiousJoan · 04/07/2024 18:47

Reform would remove the power of the CMS to enforce maintainence payments and take money from defaulters, and make people (let’s face it, mostly women) go through court to get maintenance. It’s the policies like that which demonstrate how they really feel about women.

Their trans policies are based on prejudice and are in no way a defence of women’s rights. They would remove those themselves.

TimeForRishiByeByes · 04/07/2024 18:47

Oh bless you.
What did Farage say to give you an impression he gives two hoots about women?!

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:48

Topofthemountain · 04/07/2024 18:30

I voted Labour, partly for tactical reasons.

For me this is so, so funny. I’m actually looking forward to seeing the results rolling in tonight. I know reform aren’t going to win and Labour would almost certainly win anyway but for me it is hilarious to see feminists vote for the Labour Party when we all know what they’re going do to women’s rights when they get in.

What I also find funny is seeing karma in action. Some of the people who accused reform of being “fascists” without evidence are going to be the first to complain about being smeared as fascists when the Labour Party gain control of this country in the next week or so. They’re going to demand evidence and claim it’s an outrage to smear people like that when it happens to them.

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CalamitiousJoan · 04/07/2024 18:51

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:48

For me this is so, so funny. I’m actually looking forward to seeing the results rolling in tonight. I know reform aren’t going to win and Labour would almost certainly win anyway but for me it is hilarious to see feminists vote for the Labour Party when we all know what they’re going do to women’s rights when they get in.

What I also find funny is seeing karma in action. Some of the people who accused reform of being “fascists” without evidence are going to be the first to complain about being smeared as fascists when the Labour Party gain control of this country in the next week or so. They’re going to demand evidence and claim it’s an outrage to smear people like that when it happens to them.

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Repealing the Equalities Act would mean employers could discriminate against women; they could refuse to employ them, fire them for getting pregnant, demote them at will, pay them less than men.

How on earth do you see this party protecting women’s rights?

IwantToRetire · 04/07/2024 18:51

peebles32 · 04/07/2024 18:41

I live in a predominantly Tory area and I am amazed how many people are voting Reform. The whole thing is a mess.

I wasn't going to comment on this thread, but in fact (if you believe the media) a lot of people who want to "punish" the Tories are voting Reform because it means fewer Tories. ie a negative vote.

And again according to the media, the largest group of undecided voters are older women who have formely been Tory voters.

So in fact like many voting Labour this time, it isnt a positive choice it is an anti Tory vote.

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:52

TimeForRishiByeByes · 04/07/2024 18:47

Oh bless you.
What did Farage say to give you an impression he gives two hoots about women?!

I think he is just normal middle aged guy who believes what he sees and understands biological reality. I think he would not make the changes Labour would because he is an old fashioned gentleman and knows that sex is real and is important.

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TimeForRishiByeByes · 04/07/2024 18:56

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:52

I think he is just normal middle aged guy who believes what he sees and understands biological reality. I think he would not make the changes Labour would because he is an old fashioned gentleman and knows that sex is real and is important.

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HE is representative of a 'normal middle aged guy?' and a GENTLEMAN?!
Sweet, no.

mnahmnah · 04/07/2024 18:58

My BIL had a Reform canvasser try to give him a flyer yesterday. He said no thanks, because you’re racists.

Her response?

’So?’

Says it all really.

JustTalkToThem · 04/07/2024 18:59

Tell me you’re white, without telling me you’re white.

bozzabollix · 04/07/2024 19:02

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:52

I think he is just normal middle aged guy who believes what he sees and understands biological reality. I think he would not make the changes Labour would because he is an old fashioned gentleman and knows that sex is real and is important.

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Love to know what substance you’re on. Might try it myself.

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 19:07

IwantToRetire · 04/07/2024 18:51

I wasn't going to comment on this thread, but in fact (if you believe the media) a lot of people who want to "punish" the Tories are voting Reform because it means fewer Tories. ie a negative vote.

And again according to the media, the largest group of undecided voters are older women who have formely been Tory voters.

So in fact like many voting Labour this time, it isnt a positive choice it is an anti Tory vote.

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Well that’s the other reason I voted reform. I want the Tories gone, I think there is only space under our electoral system for two large parties and naturally that would be a party of the liberal centre left and the socially conservative right.

problem is I don’t believe the Tories are socially conservative or right wing and they have preserved most of what the previous labour government did instead of trying to undo everything Labour did since 1997 and putting socially conservative values into the education system which I think any real right wing party would and should do.

but with only space for two big parties a proper right wing party can’t emerge as a possible party of government whilst the Tories remain where they are effectively blocking such a party. So the first thing that needs to happen is for the Tories to lose almost all their seats to create that space for a proper right wing party to occupy. I’m very heartened by the election results in France. Real change can happen, it can happen here too because about half the population are fairly right wing. But it can only happen if the Tories are wiped out at the ballot box first. So in this election I’m not really bothered who people vote for as long as it is not Tory and I’m even greatful to all the labour voters too much as I’m amused by it all 🙂

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MammaTo · 04/07/2024 19:07

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:52

I think he is just normal middle aged guy who believes what he sees and understands biological reality. I think he would not make the changes Labour would because he is an old fashioned gentleman and knows that sex is real and is important.

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He is an old fashioned gentlemen, Jesus wept.

SaucySabotender · 04/07/2024 19:08

Racism + misogyny go hand in hand.

BobbyBiscuits · 04/07/2024 19:10

Why would I vote for them in the name of women's rights? That would be utterly moronic.
It's not even a political party, it's a company with Farage as the sole shareholder. So I'm into democracy not weird creepy nazi frogs.

HejLittleAppleBlossom · 04/07/2024 19:10

The Tories must be rubbing their grubby little hands with glee at the realisation they have convinced so many people that they are the party who care about women’s rights. And that they’ve managed to do so by trumpeting one issue so loudly that OP et al have conveniently forgotten the rest of their policies which are squarely misogynistic and wildly damaging for women in society.

ilovesooty · 04/07/2024 19:10

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:52

I think he is just normal middle aged guy who believes what he sees and understands biological reality. I think he would not make the changes Labour would because he is an old fashioned gentleman and knows that sex is real and is important.

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🤣🤣🤣

CuriousGeorge80 · 04/07/2024 19:17

Hi Ms Turkey. Could you put a vote next to the box marked “Christmas” while you are in in there too, please? It’s a lovely time of year and I think you would really enjoy it.

HejLittleAppleBlossom · 04/07/2024 19:24

And for people to buy into the Tories’ spiel so much that they actually flip to Reform over it, the mind actually boggles. Critical thinking skills at nil.

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Anonym00se · 04/07/2024 19:26

Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:26

What’s wrong with scrapping the equalities act? I just don’t see any problem with that at all. I’m old and can remember what things were like pre-2010 and they were fine as I remember it.

But obviously we can all vote for whoever we want, just please don’t say you never knew what you were voting for when Labour bin women’s rights. If people vote for a party that wants to do that in large enough numbers they will get it and shouldn’t complain when they do. 🙂

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The Equality Act replaced the Equal Pay Act 1970, Sex Discrimination Act 1975, Race Relations Act 1976, Disability Discrimination Act 1995, Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations 2003, Employment Equality (Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2003 and the Employment Equality (Age) Regulations 2006.

There have always been acts to protect us, and as time has gone on and our rights improved they’ve been replaced by subsequent acts. The Equality Act 2010 is the most recent. The problem with Reform is that they’re not planning to replace the act, just scrap it, which will leave women with the same rights as we had in the 1960s - no maternity pay or protections, no equal pay, no protections against sex discrimination (meaning companies preferred to employ men), we could be beaten and raped by our husbands, we weren’t entitled to request flexible working, we could be groped in work…

I could go on all night. These are the protections that every woman who has voted Reform would be throwing away because they obviously didn’t understand or bother to educate themselves what they were actually voting for.

And it’s not just women, it’s people of colour, gays, disabled people, older people and people with a faith who will all be Reform’s victims. It breaks my heart to think of how bravely people fought for these laws for decades to protect us and idiots now are happy to set fire to them. Shame on you all.

whyhavetheygotsomany · 04/07/2024 19:35

I'm a woman and he got my vote

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