I am, Tories can’t be trusted and got us into the mess we are in now and we all know that lib/lab/snp and green will do to women’s rights.
i don’t expect reform to win much but I read to say that amongst young males labour and Reform are both polling at 35% Among young women though Reform are polling very badly and Labour are polling exceptionally high. I guess if women are happy to vote their rights away that is their choice but I won’t.
Anyone else here voting Reform UK?
Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 17:56
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BobbyBiscuits · 04/07/2024 19:10
Why would I vote for them in the name of women's rights? That would be utterly moronic.
It's not even a political party, it's a company with Farage as the sole shareholder. So I'm into democracy not weird creepy nazi frogs.
Anonym00se · 04/07/2024 19:26
The Equality Act replaced the Equal Pay Act 1970, Sex Discrimination Act 1975, Race Relations Act 1976, Disability Discrimination Act 1995, Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations 2003, Employment Equality (Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2003 and the Employment Equality (Age) Regulations 2006.
There have always been acts to protect us, and as time has gone on and our rights improved they’ve been replaced by subsequent acts. The Equality Act 2010 is the most recent. The problem with Reform is that they’re not planning to replace the act, just scrap it, which will leave women with the same rights as we had in the 1960s - no maternity pay or protections, no equal pay, no protections against sex discrimination (meaning companies preferred to employ men), we could be beaten and raped by our husbands, we weren’t entitled to request flexible working, we could be groped in work…
I could go on all night. These are the protections that every woman who has voted Reform would be throwing away because they obviously didn’t understand or bother to educate themselves what they were actually voting for.
And it’s not just women, it’s people of colour, gays, disabled people, older people and people with a faith who will all be Reform’s victims. It breaks my heart to think of how bravely people fought for these laws for decades to protect us and idiots now are happy to set fire to them. Shame on you all.
Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:26
What’s wrong with scrapping the equalities act? I just don’t see any problem with that at all. I’m old and can remember what things were like pre-2010 and they were fine as I remember it.
But obviously we can all vote for whoever we want, just please don’t say you never knew what you were voting for when Labour bin women’s rights. If people vote for a party that wants to do that in large enough numbers they will get it and shouldn’t complain when they do. 🙂
Topofthemountain · 04/07/2024 18:17
I highly doubt that it's because they care about women's rights
Absolutely, they want women in their place. It seems strange to vote for a party that would scrap the Equality Act 2010 and then think they care about women because they want to ban trans ideology in schools.
I would never vote Reform. They aren't even a wolf in sheep's clothing, they are full blown all you can see wolf.
mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 19:47
im 29 and i voted reform uk! i stand with everything Nigel has said, and i no they probably wont win but heres hoping people open their eyes and see we need REFORM UK i was up ready took my daughter to school and went straight to the polling station.
Ereyraa · 04/07/2024 19:44
The person in front and behind me both asked the staff why there was no reform candidate on the paper - there isn’t a reform candidate standing in my previously safe Tory seat. I think there is far more groundswell support than people realised
BIossomtoes · 04/07/2024 19:50
Oh dear.
mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 19:47
im 29 and i voted reform uk! i stand with everything Nigel has said, and i no they probably wont win but heres hoping people open their eyes and see we need REFORM UK i was up ready took my daughter to school and went straight to the polling station.
mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 19:52
you can "oh dear" me all you like i could do the same to who you voted for.
BIossomtoes · 04/07/2024 19:50
Oh dear.
mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 19:47
im 29 and i voted reform uk! i stand with everything Nigel has said, and i no they probably wont win but heres hoping people open their eyes and see we need REFORM UK i was up ready took my daughter to school and went straight to the polling station.
mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 19:52
you can "oh dear" me all you like i could do the same to who you voted for.
BIossomtoes · 04/07/2024 19:50
Oh dear.
mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 19:47
im 29 and i voted reform uk! i stand with everything Nigel has said, and i no they probably wont win but heres hoping people open their eyes and see we need REFORM UK i was up ready took my daughter to school and went straight to the polling station.
Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 19:07
Well that’s the other reason I voted reform. I want the Tories gone, I think there is only space under our electoral system for two large parties and naturally that would be a party of the liberal centre left and the socially conservative right.
problem is I don’t believe the Tories are socially conservative or right wing and they have preserved most of what the previous labour government did instead of trying to undo everything Labour did since 1997 and putting socially conservative values into the education system which I think any real right wing party would and should do.
but with only space for two big parties a proper right wing party can’t emerge as a possible party of government whilst the Tories remain where they are effectively blocking such a party. So the first thing that needs to happen is for the Tories to lose almost all their seats to create that space for a proper right wing party to occupy. I’m very heartened by the election results in France. Real change can happen, it can happen here too because about half the population are fairly right wing. But it can only happen if the Tories are wiped out at the ballot box first. So in this election I’m not really bothered who people vote for as long as it is not Tory and I’m even greatful to all the labour voters too much as I’m amused by it all 🙂
IwantToRetire · 04/07/2024 18:51
I wasn't going to comment on this thread, but in fact (if you believe the media) a lot of people who want to "punish" the Tories are voting Reform because it means fewer Tories. ie a negative vote.
And again according to the media, the largest group of undecided voters are older women who have formely been Tory voters.
So in fact like many voting Labour this time, it isnt a positive choice it is an anti Tory vote.
peebles32 · 04/07/2024 18:41
I live in a predominantly Tory area and I am amazed how many people are voting Reform. The whole thing is a mess.
VoteOutToHelpOut · 04/07/2024 19:59
If you are serious you will never get your wish. In five year's time I bet all the far right parties in Europe will have lost support as people wake up to what they really are. Same in the UK. Reform UK PLC will go the way of all the far right parties here. Into oblivion.
ETA: let's see what happens on July 7, shall we?
Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 19:07
Well that’s the other reason I voted reform. I want the Tories gone, I think there is only space under our electoral system for two large parties and naturally that would be a party of the liberal centre left and the socially conservative right.
problem is I don’t believe the Tories are socially conservative or right wing and they have preserved most of what the previous labour government did instead of trying to undo everything Labour did since 1997 and putting socially conservative values into the education system which I think any real right wing party would and should do.
but with only space for two big parties a proper right wing party can’t emerge as a possible party of government whilst the Tories remain where they are effectively blocking such a party. So the first thing that needs to happen is for the Tories to lose almost all their seats to create that space for a proper right wing party to occupy. I’m very heartened by the election results in France. Real change can happen, it can happen here too because about half the population are fairly right wing. But it can only happen if the Tories are wiped out at the ballot box first. So in this election I’m not really bothered who people vote for as long as it is not Tory and I’m even greatful to all the labour voters too much as I’m amused by it all 🙂
IwantToRetire · 04/07/2024 18:51
I wasn't going to comment on this thread, but in fact (if you believe the media) a lot of people who want to "punish" the Tories are voting Reform because it means fewer Tories. ie a negative vote.
And again according to the media, the largest group of undecided voters are older women who have formely been Tory voters.
So in fact like many voting Labour this time, it isnt a positive choice it is an anti Tory vote.
peebles32 · 04/07/2024 18:41
I live in a predominantly Tory area and I am amazed how many people are voting Reform. The whole thing is a mess.
Rsfk35 · 04/07/2024 18:52
I think he is just normal middle aged guy who believes what he sees and understands biological reality. I think he would not make the changes Labour would because he is an old fashioned gentleman and knows that sex is real and is important.
TimeForRishiByeByes · 04/07/2024 18:47
Oh bless you.
What did Farage say to give you an impression he gives two hoots about women?!
mumofoneand2dogs · 04/07/2024 19:47
im 29 and i voted reform uk! i stand with everything Nigel has said, and i no they probably wont win but heres hoping people open their eyes and see we need REFORM UK i was up ready took my daughter to school and went straight to the polling station.
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Topofthemountain · 04/07/2024 20:06
The whole of the western world is just going to shit.
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