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Jess Phillips MP harassed and threatened by angry men

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eatfigs 路 05/07/2024 12:36

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The absolute state of this! Good on her and her colleagues for standing up to these horrible men and calling out their abusive behaviour.

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radiatorbed 路 06/07/2024 09:34

Imnobody4 路 06/07/2024 00:39

I think that's unfair. It is obvious to anyone that there's been a surge in Islamic extremism and that this is playing out here as well as other countries.

No one has said anything even remotely unacceptable on this thread

Even on this thread, the immediate responses were to make snarky comments about the Muslim community en masse rather than be specific about the minority behaving so badly.

Muslims are as diverse as any other group but if you think there isn't an increase in extremism you're in denial.

The way to ensure Reform thrives is to ignore the obvious.

If KS makes Islamaphobia a hate crime he's a fool.

This.

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radiatorbed 路 06/07/2024 09:39

TheColourOutOfSpace 路 06/07/2024 05:24

The fucking state of some the ignorant fools on this thread, full of self-loathing and desperate to show off how 'tolerant' they are, that they will justify and support anything, especially far-right Islamism (and far-right Islamist men in particular). Disgusting.

This man and his goons, and others like him, seem to have been targeting other political candidates, especially the female ones.

For those with poor comprehension skills, let's look at the reporting :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng3j1pnpqo

Shabana Mahmood said masked men had disrupted a community meeting, "terrifying" people in attendance.

There was a notable police presence during counts in Birmingham where both women were candidates, with the West Midlands force confirming it was investigating several complaints lodged in the run-up to polling day.

She then recounted how during the campaign a community activist went out to canvass with her, but was filmed by people in the street and had her car's tyres slashed.

"A young woman on her own delivering leaflets was filmed and screamed at by a much older man in the street," she said.

She thanked West Midlands Police for taking "constant" phone calls from her.

As police officers lined the stage as she spoke overnight, Ms Mahmood shared that physical threats had been reported to police, whom she thanked for going "above and beyond to ensure a safe and secure election".

Baroness Shaista Gohir, who leads the national charity Muslim Women's Network UK, told BBC Radio WM: 鈥淚鈥檝e been really concerned observing what has been happening to the female candidates in areas where you have a significant Muslim electorate.

鈥淢en have also experienced abuse, but it was much greater for women - they are seen as easy targets, they have been intimidated, harassed and that鈥檚 really concerning.

鈥淚t鈥檚 almost to try to put them off from politics, it鈥檚 also sending a message to women not to get into politics."

A spokesperson for West Midlands Police said a number of police officers were stationed at polling stations across Birmingham on Thursday to "offer reassurance and ensure public safety".

They said: "Our officers are aware of a number of incidents leading up to the election where people have reported criminal damage and harassment, and we are carrying out inquiries to identify those responsible."

Masked men. Slashed tyres. Screaming at women. Police outside polling stations and during the vote counts. All of which will have also intimidated constituents and caused some to not vote or vote differently out of fear and anxiety. It is a brazen attack on British democracy.

But..... But.... But.... Boris and Farage and Reform.... wahhhhh.... Bad men..... Oh fuck off. I don't recall these shenanigans from anyone in the Conservative or Reform parties during elections.

Yes. But there are people on here who will label you racist for this post. It's an upside down world.

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newtlover 路 06/07/2024 09:58

very glad to see the muslim women's network speaking out about this
for anyone who thinks muslim=misogyny check out their website
its never about a religion its always about men using religion to increase and maintain their power and control

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radiatorbed 路 06/07/2024 10:07

I think that Islam = misogyny in the same way that I think all religions = misogyny

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Imnobody4 路 06/07/2024 10:19

I should just point out that most victims of Islamism are Muslims. I'm quite sure there are a lot of frightened Muslim citizens who feel caught between the far right and far left. I support them.

I remember decades ago how local councillors etc talked to self appointed leaders and ignored the actual people. Most of the Muslims I knew didn't agree with their self appointed spokesmen.

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TheColourOutOfSpace 路 06/07/2024 10:36

radiatorbed 路 06/07/2024 09:39

Yes. But there are people on here who will label you racist for this post. It's an upside down world.

I don't give a shit what these types call me. Grin

They can kiss my (rather lovely) dark skinned 'racist' 'islamophobic' arse.
I spent the first 18 years of my life in the Middle East. I know what real discrimination and racism is like, especially as a non-muslim living in an islamic country.

I moved to the UK nearly 20 years ago and hoped it was all a distant memory - the Islamism and crazy mullahs and extremists. Yet here they are again.

Even Arab countries are trying to crack down hard on the Islamic extremists, but in Britain they seem to get pandered to by left-wing parties. Fucking unbelievable.

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CassieMaddox 路 06/07/2024 11:19

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Imnobody4 路 06/07/2024 11:23

Janice Turner in the Times www.thetimes.com/article/0db26169-533f-43b3-a834-cf4853c0fccf?shareToken=70615c87433b64cf32c2e89179cd0e21

Also a video of KS and Sadiq Khan at Eid. From 1.26 he talks about Islamophobia. He's going for appeasement.

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radiatorbed 路 06/07/2024 11:49

TheColourOutOfSpace 路 06/07/2024 10:36

I don't give a shit what these types call me. Grin

They can kiss my (rather lovely) dark skinned 'racist' 'islamophobic' arse.
I spent the first 18 years of my life in the Middle East. I know what real discrimination and racism is like, especially as a non-muslim living in an islamic country.

I moved to the UK nearly 20 years ago and hoped it was all a distant memory - the Islamism and crazy mullahs and extremists. Yet here they are again.

Even Arab countries are trying to crack down hard on the Islamic extremists, but in Britain they seem to get pandered to by left-wing parties. Fucking unbelievable.

It's very depressing to hear you say this. I wonder how the LP will tackle this?

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radiatorbed 路 06/07/2024 11:51

Imnobody4 路 06/07/2024 11:23

Janice Turner in the Times www.thetimes.com/article/0db26169-533f-43b3-a834-cf4853c0fccf?shareToken=70615c87433b64cf32c2e89179cd0e21

Also a video of KS and Sadiq Khan at Eid. From 1.26 he talks about Islamophobia. He's going for appeasement.

That interview is vomit worthy.

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CassieMaddox 路 06/07/2024 12:09

Imnobody4 路 06/07/2024 11:23

Janice Turner in the Times www.thetimes.com/article/0db26169-533f-43b3-a834-cf4853c0fccf?shareToken=70615c87433b64cf32c2e89179cd0e21

Also a video of KS and Sadiq Khan at Eid. From 1.26 he talks about Islamophobia. He's going for appeasement.

Why is it "appeasement" to try to understand and respond to disaffected Muslim voters, and "necessary" to understand and respond to disaffected white working class voters?

Seems like double standards to me.

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Imnobody4 路 06/07/2024 12:50

Making Islamophobia a hate crime in preference to anti Muslim hate is appeasement.
Let's remember Salman Rushdie and the teacher still in hiding and the boy accused of damaging the the Quran.
You should note he centres this around Oct 7.

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Imnobody4 路 06/07/2024 13:01

CassieMaddox 路 06/07/2024 11:19

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Cassie I find your posts fascinating. But I'm not sure what meant by this. Could you elaborate.

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Imnobody4 路 06/07/2024 13:35

Labour have allowed the pro-Islamists at MEND to define hate.

As I said above a minority of extremist loudmouths dictating policy. There are many different strands of Islam including those considered blasphemers who are at risk.

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CassieMaddox 路 06/07/2024 13:48

Imnobody4 路 06/07/2024 13:01

Cassie I find your posts fascinating. But I'm not sure what meant by this. Could you elaborate.

I mean there are rather a lot of assumptions underpinning the post above mine but I don't want to get into pointing them all out.

I flipping cannot stand Islamophobia, even less so when its relating to disorder that is actually being fomented by angry white men.

Labour have been in government for 1 day and already the anti-Muslim sentiment has started.

I find it deeply depressing.

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HermioneWeasley 路 06/07/2024 13:56

Islamic extremists are not all Muslims.

pandering to them is, to quote Hilary Clinton on the Taliban, like keeping venomous snakes in your back yard and thinking they鈥檒l only bite your neighbours.

their beliefs are incompatible with British values and way of life.

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Peskysquirrel 路 06/07/2024 14:00

@CassieMaddox I mean there are rather a lot of assumptions underpinning the post above mine but I don't want to get into pointing them all out.

Perhaps you should point them all out, for clarity on what you think that poster has said.
Just so we're all clear exactly what you mean? An eyeroll emoji doesn't cut it.

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CassieMaddox 路 06/07/2024 14:03

Peskysquirrel 路 06/07/2024 14:00

@CassieMaddox I mean there are rather a lot of assumptions underpinning the post above mine but I don't want to get into pointing them all out.

Perhaps you should point them all out, for clarity on what you think that poster has said.
Just so we're all clear exactly what you mean? An eyeroll emoji doesn't cut it.

No. I keep getting accused of derailing. If it was real life I'd only do an eye roll so I'll stick to the same on here ta

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CassieMaddox 路 06/07/2024 14:05

HermioneWeasley 路 06/07/2024 13:56

Islamic extremists are not all Muslims.

pandering to them is, to quote Hilary Clinton on the Taliban, like keeping venomous snakes in your back yard and thinking they鈥檒l only bite your neighbours.

their beliefs are incompatible with British values and way of life.

I feel the same about the far right members of Reform, yet apparently their choices are "understandable" rather than "incompatible with British values". Despite the fact they are, well, incompatible with British values.

Extremism shouldn't be encouraged, no matter the ethnicity or background of the extremist.

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Needmoresleep 路 06/07/2024 14:21

We are talking about intimidation not unpleasant political views.

If Reform are guilty of the same acts of intimidation, they should be arrested.

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CassieMaddox 路 06/07/2024 14:23

Needmoresleep 路 06/07/2024 14:21

We are talking about intimidation not unpleasant political views.

If Reform are guilty of the same acts of intimidation, they should be arrested.

Hmmm. If they were people would go on about 2 tier policing.

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Needmoresleep 路 06/07/2024 14:28

No. Mob rule is not acceptable within our democracy.

It is now happening too often: TRAs, Environmental activists and other groups including those who we have just seen.

And argument that this lot might be just as bad does not cut it. It is not about the views, but about the intimidation.

As with my earlier example of Belfast at the start of the troubles, once the mob is allowed to rule it is often the women and children from within the community who suffer most.

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porridgecake 路 06/07/2024 14:29

The problem is that all these men, who behave like this, no matter what their beliefs, are never arrested. So they continue and ramp up their behaviour without any action being taken. Then you end up with the most awful acts of violence and all the handwringing that follows.
However, if you are a woman who tries to raise the alarm the you will be arrested pdq.
Just look at what happens when women try to leave abusive men, when they report stalking or rape, when a woman doesn't accept what men tell her to do, when she speaks or has an opinion. Same old same old.

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radiatorbed 路 06/07/2024 14:30

Needmoresleep 路 06/07/2024 14:28

No. Mob rule is not acceptable within our democracy.

It is now happening too often: TRAs, Environmental activists and other groups including those who we have just seen.

And argument that this lot might be just as bad does not cut it. It is not about the views, but about the intimidation.

As with my earlier example of Belfast at the start of the troubles, once the mob is allowed to rule it is often the women and children from within the community who suffer most.

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JanesLittleGirl 路 06/07/2024 15:46

CassieMaddox 路 05/07/2024 23:18

Maybe the fact his party is Reform Ltd rather than democratic is a clue

I have looked at this from every angle that I can think of. I have even read the hatchet job in byline times. I'm buggered if I can see how being a registered company rather than a political association is acting against the democratic process.

Maybe filing a return to Companies House is the same as deploying harassment and intimidation as deliberate tactics in your mind. I disagree.

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