I live in Islington North constituency and I’ve no idea who to vote for in this election.
My politics are left wing and I’m gender critical.
Our current MP is Corbyn, who is standing as an independent in this election. I don’t want to vote for him (and even more so after seeing him out on the campaign trail with Owen Jones 🙄).
I’m pissed off with Labour re self ID/Rosie Duffield treatment etc etc and don’t really want to vote for them either. Don’t want to vote for Greens and Lib Dems because of their batshit gender policies. Other candidates are Tory, Reform (no thanks), and an independent who I can’t find any information about. Sadly no other parties or even novelty candidates to choose from this election.
Normally I might consider spoiling my ballot paper… BUT, wondering if that’s risky this time? Whilst I’m angry with Labour, I would be pissed off if Corbyn got back in… Is it a risk? Should I hold my nose and vote for Labour?
interested to hear from other mumsnetters who are in a similar predicament. Who the hell do you vote for if you're left wing and gender critical?
(regular mumsnetter, have name changed because I’ve given my location).
Islington North - who to vote for?
Election2024 · 24/06/2024 17:48
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coldpizzalover · 24/06/2024 21:04
Hello I live in Islington North!! I had a long conversation with a member of the Labour Party on my doorstep who explained the local situation with regard to Corbyn and who 100% understood my fears about women’s safety and what is happening to our children in schools. I agree with you entirely about not trusting Labour yet i would also do everything in my power to stop Corbyn who is an enormous populist and divisive figure and an antisemite. Happy to chat more if you DM me and I will share what he told me on the doorstep
urbanbuddha · 24/06/2024 20:54
This is going to be controversial but if I was in Islington North I’d vote for Corbyn. He’s a very good constituency MP. And more than that he’d take Sir Keir Starmer and the Labour Party to task when it needs doing (and sometimes when it doesn’t need doing). The Labour Party is a bit detached from its voters and it needs someone who’ll interfere with the steamroller effect in whatever way. It should be a broad church. I really dislike the way the chosen are being parachuted into seats without regard to what the local party thinks. So I’d send a reminder that people power does actually count.
Hyperions · 24/06/2024 18:31
I mind about those of course. But the loss of women's rights to dignity safety and privacy. And the poor women in prison with rapists come first.
JandLandG · 24/06/2024 18:23
Cracking logic, here...
Never mind about Johnson, never mind about partygate, never mind about his defence of sex pests, never mind about all the fucking rest of it.
Never mind about Truss
Never mind about the ERG, never mind about Patel, never mind about Williamson and all the rest of those people who should have never been anywhere near the levers of power in this country.
Never mind about the chancellor who makes his own tax payments up, never mind about the non-dom PM's wife, never mind about the billions given to Tory mates of the VIP lane.
Never mind about any of that kind of stuff, eh...?
Hyperions · 24/06/2024 18:07
Tory I'm afraid, you've got to vote to defend your rights.
Jails to run out of space in days, governors warn
The police will be unable to detain people, putting the public at risk, the Prison Governors’ Association warns.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx777w9vgv9o
winterrabbit · 25/06/2024 00:08
I am in Islington North and in the same dilemma. No way am I voting for Corbyn and can't bring myself to vote Conservative again after the absolute shit show of the last few years. I was going to vote Labour but massively put off by Starmer on Question Time (I agree with Tony Blair) insincere bullshit. I also have a child in private school so feels like self sabotage to vote Labour and I have a feeling the working middle classes are going to get even more clobbered on tax. So not sure what to do. Possibly Reform, Conservative (if I can bear it) or spoil my paper.
coldpizzalover · 24/06/2024 21:04
Hello I live in Islington North!! I had a long conversation with a member of the Labour Party on my doorstep who explained the local situation with regard to Corbyn and who 100% understood my fears about women’s safety and what is happening to our children in schools. I agree with you entirely about not trusting Labour yet i would also do everything in my power to stop Corbyn who is an enormous populist and divisive figure and an antisemite. Happy to chat more if you DM me and I will share what he told me on the doorstep
JennyForeigner · 25/06/2024 09:37
There is nowhere in the country I would rather vote Labour than your seat, purely against the horrible misogynistic old dinosaurs of the Labour left and their stubborn stupid old totem.
And because Owen Jones doesn't want you to. Don't you really really want to mug off Owen Jones?
Election2024 · 25/06/2024 10:27
Thank you everyone for your replies. Lots to think about!
I will use my vote. Not voting at all (as a pp suggested) is something I can’t do.
Spoiling my ballot as a protest does appeal but how much notice does anyone really take? And it feels less ‘responsible’ in a seat where every vote might count.
I think I will hold my nose and vote Labour, purely in the hope of ousting Corbyn. It doesn’t make me feel great - I so wish I was voting FOR someone in a positive way.
CassieMaddox · 25/06/2024 10:34
Yeah I think people are a bit narcissistic about spoilt ballots! I think people are too busy counting to give it more than a cursory glance....
Election2024 · 25/06/2024 10:27
Thank you everyone for your replies. Lots to think about!
I will use my vote. Not voting at all (as a pp suggested) is something I can’t do.
Spoiling my ballot as a protest does appeal but how much notice does anyone really take? And it feels less ‘responsible’ in a seat where every vote might count.
I think I will hold my nose and vote Labour, purely in the hope of ousting Corbyn. It doesn’t make me feel great - I so wish I was voting FOR someone in a positive way.
CassieMaddox · 25/06/2024 10:34
Yeah I think people are a bit narcissistic about spoilt ballots! I think people are too busy counting to give it more than a cursory glance....
Election2024 · 25/06/2024 10:27
Thank you everyone for your replies. Lots to think about!
I will use my vote. Not voting at all (as a pp suggested) is something I can’t do.
Spoiling my ballot as a protest does appeal but how much notice does anyone really take? And it feels less ‘responsible’ in a seat where every vote might count.
I think I will hold my nose and vote Labour, purely in the hope of ousting Corbyn. It doesn’t make me feel great - I so wish I was voting FOR someone in a positive way.
urbanbuddha · 24/06/2024 20:54
This is going to be controversial but if I was in Islington North I’d vote for Corbyn. He’s a very good constituency MP. And more than that he’d take Sir Keir Starmer and the Labour Party to task when it needs doing (and sometimes when it doesn’t need doing). The Labour Party is a bit detached from its voters and it needs someone who’ll interfere with the steamroller effect in whatever way. It should be a broad church. I really dislike the way the chosen are being parachuted into seats without regard to what the local party thinks. So I’d send a reminder that people power does actually count.
CassieMaddox · 25/06/2024 10:42
In all seriousness I wish I could choose to vote on principles but this election is way too important for that as I really think another 5 years of the Tories will destroy the country.
Election2024 · 25/06/2024 10:52
I understand your thinking. I don’t like candidates being parachuted in. I am often fond of the ‘difficult’ politicians, the rabble rousers who ask the awkward questions… but Corbyn has gone too far for me.
urbanbuddha · 24/06/2024 20:54
This is going to be controversial but if I was in Islington North I’d vote for Corbyn. He’s a very good constituency MP. And more than that he’d take Sir Keir Starmer and the Labour Party to task when it needs doing (and sometimes when it doesn’t need doing). The Labour Party is a bit detached from its voters and it needs someone who’ll interfere with the steamroller effect in whatever way. It should be a broad church. I really dislike the way the chosen are being parachuted into seats without regard to what the local party thinks. So I’d send a reminder that people power does actually count.
dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 25/06/2024 10:59
I hear you, but do you really think Labour will improve anything because I have 0 hope they will, if anything I think they're so incompetent it'll get worse.
With the Tories they're quite happy for the poor and middle classes to get poorer and everything start to fall apart until the point it impacts on their cash flow, at which point they'll step in to stop the rot.
With Labour I think they're so wedded to ludicrous ideology (on many issues) that they'll be happy for there to be immense damage for the "cause". I also think they're allergic to reality so will find the practical realities of trying to improve things very hard to do.
My probably vain hope is for more votes for independents and more independent MPs.
And looking to emigrate in a few years.
CassieMaddox · 25/06/2024 10:42
In all seriousness I wish I could choose to vote on principles but this election is way too important for that as I really think another 5 years of the Tories will destroy the country.
IslingtonNorthtoo · 25/06/2024 11:53
How has he gone too far in your opinion? (apart from the sex/gender debate, on which you'd (I'd) vote for neither candidate)?
serious question - what is wrong with being really left wing? And if you don't believe that he is anti-semitic why not vote for him? He's a real socialist right? Which is more than Starmer is?
Election2024 · 25/06/2024 10:52
I understand your thinking. I don’t like candidates being parachuted in. I am often fond of the ‘difficult’ politicians, the rabble rousers who ask the awkward questions… but Corbyn has gone too far for me.
urbanbuddha · 24/06/2024 20:54
This is going to be controversial but if I was in Islington North I’d vote for Corbyn. He’s a very good constituency MP. And more than that he’d take Sir Keir Starmer and the Labour Party to task when it needs doing (and sometimes when it doesn’t need doing). The Labour Party is a bit detached from its voters and it needs someone who’ll interfere with the steamroller effect in whatever way. It should be a broad church. I really dislike the way the chosen are being parachuted into seats without regard to what the local party thinks. So I’d send a reminder that people power does actually count.
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