Firstly, let me say, it pains me to admit this because I’m not a Tory. I’ve always looked upon myself as a slightly left of centre, live and let live, community based, floating voter. But the more I look at this election campaign, the more I’ve realised that, to me, this is a one issue election. Women’s rights.
Starmer has been asked countless times about women’s private spaces, on radio and on TV. Each time he’s done everything he can to avoid answering the question. In any one of these interviews, he could have made his position clear, particularly on that phone in last week where the caller Jane said she was sick of the twaddle that comes out of his mouth.
Now he’s being quoted in the Telegraph as having said that biological males should not use women’s public toilets. This is a typical move by a politician. Leave it until the last minute, so he can’t be quizzed on what he actually means and then twist and deny it afterwards. I don’t trust him.
I don’t want to vote Conservative. After Partygate and the chaos caused by that idiot Liz Truss, they need a good kicking. But they’re the only party that have consistently come down on the side of women. If Labour get in and shift the gender landscape, the changes they make could be irreparable.
In the Victorian era, they didn’t build public toilets for women. It was a way of keeping women chained to the home. This is the direction we’re heading in if we don’t stand up and put a stop to it. And I don’t want to look back on this in years to come and realise I could have voted against this shift, but I let my political views get in the way.
Why I'm voting Conservative
jomartin281271 · 02/07/2024 15:23
Soundsofjoy · 02/07/2024 15:28
I’m sorry but I could never in a million years bring myself to vote conservative after this complete shit show. I get your point but I would go with the Lib Dems, the Green Party, anyone but this bunch of clowns.
jomartin281271 · 02/07/2024 15:30
BlownItJellyHead The trans madness has happened all over the western world and I'm just glad someone is starting to stand up to it.
BlownItJellyHead · 02/07/2024 15:27
But they’re the only party that have consistently come down on the side of women
All the trans madness has happened on their watch though.
ETA: I'm not anti-Tory and will likely vote for them myself as the 'least terrible' option. But let's not pretend that they're in any way a friend to women.
BlownItJellyHead · 02/07/2024 15:37
But why are they only just starting to stand up to it? The trans madeness has been building for a decade and women have been warning about it for all that time (and longer). They could've stood up at any point during that time but didn't until it got big and started to look like a vote-winner.
Its irrelevant what's happening in other places - they still could've stood up and said "Nope, we're having none of that bollocks in the UK"
But they didn't. Until it became a mainstream vote-winner issue. That's before you get into the more general Tory attitude towards women 🙃
As I said, though, no shade. On this issue, they're the least terrible option.
jomartin281271 · 02/07/2024 15:30
BlownItJellyHead The trans madness has happened all over the western world and I'm just glad someone is starting to stand up to it.
UtilitarianNameChange · 02/07/2024 16:03
Tbf the pro biological sex Lords have been a mixed bag of Tory and others.
Robert Winston is Labour, Lewis Moonie was one of the first to stand up against TRAs and left Labour in 2019, Claire Fox is a non-affiliated Peer.
I’m sure there are more but CBA to look them up right now.
BlownItJellyHead · 02/07/2024 15:27
But they’re the only party that have consistently come down on the side of women
All the trans madness has happened on their watch though.
ETA: I'm not anti-Tory and will likely vote for them myself as the 'least terrible' option. But let's not pretend that they're in any way a friend to women.
WishfulThunking · 02/07/2024 15:30
Above all explains why voting Tory to protect women is the path of insanity.
ScrollingLeaves · 02/07/2024 15:50
started to look like a vote-winner.
No, they began to roll back when a few started listening. The Cass review was commission by Sajid Javid because of growing alarm over harm to children, for example, not votes. Kemi Badenoch has put herself seriously in the way of reproach and anger, and shows far too much knowledge on the subject, to suggest she simply saw some easy to win votes out of her stance.
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SolitaryBee · 02/07/2024 16:19
For me the two most startling things I have learnt about all the left leaning parties (I include the SNP, greens and LibDems as well as Labour in that category) are:
- the level of intolerance and groupthink in all of them. No dissenting voices are tolerated.
- the inability to hear women’s voices, how little our opinions are considered, how little we seem to matter and how much we are actually despised by so many men.
I’m generally a left of centre floating voter, not very tribal, have voted for all the parties mentioned above depending on candidate and policies at one time or another. In this election I will vote Tory because I feel they have genuinely listened to women and thought about what we have been saying.
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