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12 year old referred to Prevent fir saying ‘I’m gay not queer’ and ‘there’s only 2 genders’

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SamW98 · 28/06/2024 22:52

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13581155/Boy-12-referred-counter-extremist-Prevent-officers-school-declaring-two-genders-Im-gay-not-queer.html

And also having far right terrorist views apparently - he’s a kid ffs a gay Jewish kid being bullied - is this what the counter-extremism police are really supposed to be dealing with?

Prevent investigates boy, 12, for saying there 'are only two genders'

A 12-year-old schoolboy has been investigated by counter-extremism officers after he declared there 'are only two genders' and 'there's no such thing as non-binary'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13581155/Boy-12-referred-counter-extremist-Prevent-officers-school-declaring-two-genders-Im-gay-not-queer.html

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SamW98 · 28/06/2024 22:53

I’ve requested MN change thread title - bloody predictive text

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BallerinaFall · 28/06/2024 23:06

If he has far right opinions then its right it was actioned to Prevent. Thats why anyone in a safeguarding role has to complete Prevent duty training.

spannasaurus · 28/06/2024 23:07

BallerinaFall · 28/06/2024 23:06

If he has far right opinions then its right it was actioned to Prevent. Thats why anyone in a safeguarding role has to complete Prevent duty training.

Which of his opinions do you think are far right?

SamW98 · 28/06/2024 23:15

BallerinaFall · 28/06/2024 23:06

If he has far right opinions then its right it was actioned to Prevent. Thats why anyone in a safeguarding role has to complete Prevent duty training.

What far right opinions does he have then? Unless there’s a backstory his views are not offensive or illegal

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lcakethereforeIam · 28/06/2024 23:23

I think he was untoward towards terrorists.

duc748 · 28/06/2024 23:23

From what's been reported there, his views would be supported by the vast majority of the British public.

BallerinaFall · 28/06/2024 23:26

@SamW98 you stated "And also having far right terrorist views apparently"

But you have now edited it out

SidewaysOtter · 28/06/2024 23:26

Anyone who thinks there being two sexes, or someone referring to themselves as gay not queer is “far right” needs to get a fucking grip.

Moving on from the obvious derail attempt, that poor kid. This was never what Prevent was designed to do and it just goes to show how the Thought Police will use any means to bully those displaying Wrong Think.

SamW98 · 28/06/2024 23:27

BallerinaFall · 28/06/2024 23:26

@SamW98 you stated "And also having far right terrorist views apparently"

But you have now edited it out

I haven’t edited anything out

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SamW98 · 28/06/2024 23:28

duc748 · 28/06/2024 23:23

From what's been reported there, his views would be supported by the vast majority of the British public.

Yep. Maybe we should all expect a knock on the door any time soon

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zibzibara · 28/06/2024 23:40

In a letter to the school in South Tyneside - seen by the Mail - his mother detailed how he was subjected to vile verbal abuse, Nazi salutes and was 'forced to drink another child's urine'.

This is appalling and needs more than a letter to the school.

yourhairiswinterfire · 28/06/2024 23:56

I wonder how many of the children making Nazi salutes and asking this Jewish boy if the school showers reminded him of the gas chambers (from FairCop's thread) were also reported to Prevent by the school?

You'd think the police would be concerned about who is radicalising them if they're showing that much hatred towards Jews, but according to the parents of this boy, they weren't interested in that...

MoonshineSon · 29/06/2024 00:00

SamW98 · 28/06/2024 23:27

I haven’t edited anything out

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You have! We can see your edit.

12 year old referred to Prevent fir saying ‘I’m gay not queer’ and ‘there’s only 2 genders’

spannasaurus · 29/06/2024 00:03

MoonshineSon · 29/06/2024 00:00

You have! We can see your edit.

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Look again

Valeriekat · 29/06/2024 00:04

BallerinaFall · 28/06/2024 23:06

If he has far right opinions then its right it was actioned to Prevent. Thats why anyone in a safeguarding role has to complete Prevent duty training.

But he doesn't does he?
Prevent was supposed to be used to prevent terrorism but rather predictably it is being used to intimidate people with the wrong views ie anyone who is GC.

yourhairiswinterfire · 29/06/2024 00:05

MoonshineSon · 29/06/2024 00:00

You have! We can see your edit.

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You can read the original and 'edited' versions of her OP, they're exactly the same.

The title was edited because it said 'fat' instead of gay, and I think that's why it's showing that she edited her post.

SamW98 · 29/06/2024 00:05

MoonshineSon · 29/06/2024 00:00

You have! We can see your edit.

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It’s still there so look properly.- no idea what you’re trying to say as everyone can see that nothing except the title changed (at my request to MN admin).

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SamW98 · 29/06/2024 00:07

yourhairiswinterfire · 29/06/2024 00:05

You can read the original and 'edited' versions of her OP, they're exactly the same.

The title was edited because it said 'fat' instead of gay, and I think that's why it's showing that she edited her post.

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Thank you. I asked MN to edit the title as gay autocorrected to fat but nothing else has changed so no idea what that poster is talking about other than to derail

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MariaLuna · 29/06/2024 00:10

Yep. Maybe we should all expect a knock on the door any time soon

Not o.k. to write that. People really did experience that, taken away to concentration camps.

Garlicker · 29/06/2024 00:18

MariaLuna · 29/06/2024 00:10

Yep. Maybe we should all expect a knock on the door any time soon

Not o.k. to write that. People really did experience that, taken away to concentration camps.

And women have experienced it in the present UK for having tweeted something a genderist reported as 'hate speech'.

Terror tactics exist outside of 1930s Germany, you know. If you're interested, check out Chinese Uyghurs being dragged from their homes in the middle of the night to be 're-educated', similar and worse atrocities going on all over Africa, and ... well, plenty more.

duc748 · 29/06/2024 00:21

Sure, but having some regard for the lad himself being Jewish...

IwantToRetire · 29/06/2024 01:10

When I say I just cant believe it, it is because it just seems incredible that even after media publicity, Cass Review, etc., etc., a school would refer a child to Prevent.

What type of hysterical over reaction is that. Either there is some nutter in the school admin system of they have been so Stonewalled they just had a knee jerk reaction.

And if as the story suggests he put together the video because of bullying he is really brave, and it shames the teachers and whatever safeguarding system that he couldn't turn to them for support.

The bullies should be sent to Prevent.

This is so obnoxious, and just terrifying.

I hope the school gets named and shamed.

I hope other papers and news outlets report this.

mach2 · 29/06/2024 07:59

Prevent is a monster that needs taking behind the barn and shooting. It was intended as a means of intimidating Muslims with the wrong opinions and now it's spread its tentacles.

The Tories under Cameron wanted to be able to impose banning orders on people the state seems "extremist" (people who the state deem extreme but do not carry out or incite violence). These orders would have greatly restricted the civil rights of people who didn't break the law.

I see Mark Rowley wants to be able to act against people who don't break the law.

The political class seems to be composed of people who have forgotten the totalitarian horrors of the 20th century, that we were in armed standoff with and defined ourselves against countries with such laws.

SinnerBoy · 29/06/2024 08:59

BallerinaFall · Yesterday 23:06

If he has far right opinions then its right it was actioned to Prevent.

He doesn't seem to have any far right connections. The school decided that his legally protected views are extreme, even though they're not. In my opinion, they have bullied and harassed him and if the mother is correct, so have the Police.

The school did nothing about the horrible campaign of bullying and anti-Semitic abuse, which he was subjected to, but decided that, because he's gay and not a subscriber to trans ideology, that he's an extremist.

Treaclewell · 29/06/2024 10:00

It's glaringly obvious that Prevent has been armed and aimed at a Jewish lad to enhance the antisemitic campaign which the school did nothing to counter. They should have been knocking at the doors of the bullies.

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