It’s close in this seat between Greens and Labour.
Green canvasser (male) came to the door this evening so I asked what the local candidate’s position is on single sex spaces. He immediately launched into a monologue about trans rights, talking about trans suicide rates as they are such a marginalised group, and that the issue of single sex spaces and trans rights has become toxic and everyone needs to be kinder about it. He doesn’t feel comfortable talking to me about it, because he’s a man. I pointed out that he’s there representing the views of Carla Denyer, not himself!
Anyway, he’s basically talked himself out of a Green vote from me, which is something that I had been considering. Interesting how he immediately mentioned trans rights when I had simply asked about single sex spaces - it’s clearly not something that Carla will be supporting, so that’s me out.
I’m toying with voting Labour, but increasingly think I might vote for KJK and POW party, just so my GC voice is counted.
Is that pointless?
I’m an NHS worker in a field where GC views would probably get me fired, so this feels like the only way I can have my (anonymous!) voice heard!
Anyone in Bristol Central voting for POW?
WishingOnACar · 27/06/2024 20:46
DexaVooveQhodu · 27/06/2024 20:53
KJK is so unlikely to win that voting fir her won't actively do any harm, but I don't think she's at all a good representative of the GC voice. Isn't she a Trump supporter whose views are decidedly non-feminist and pro-gender-conformity, with no more in common with GC feminism than TRAs (ie Red circle here)
IwantToRetire · 27/06/2024 20:59
I cant believe anyone is still thinking they can post on a thread on FWR that KJK is right wing pro trump.
About every other thread on here shows that nobody, even those who dont particularly support her think has any validity.
Try looking at old threads about KJK, and then think of a better arguement not to vote her. Not one based on nonsense!
DexaVooveQhodu · 27/06/2024 20:53
KJK is so unlikely to win that voting fir her won't actively do any harm, but I don't think she's at all a good representative of the GC voice. Isn't she a Trump supporter whose views are decidedly non-feminist and pro-gender-conformity, with no more in common with GC feminism than TRAs (ie Red circle here)
Sausagenbacon · 28/06/2024 08:12
I'm voting for POW.
I'm so bored with posters immediately trotting out the supposed connections between KJK and the far right. With no proof. I've had this with 2 labour friends. This was their immediate reaction, based on heresay with no actual facts.
No to Carla denyer, for obvious reasons.
As for thangham, the wishful thinking about her is off the scale. Yes, she is a hard-working mp. But I have never seen her refer to this issue. What has she actually done to arrest Labour's descent into batshit crazy? And what will she do when they are in power?
Nothing.
😂
Apart from
-two of her trusted stewards marching with the far right
-Far right people live streaming her events from the front row
- Far right people turning up at her events
- her taking money from organisations with a lot of Far right members
- her "nominating officer" being a crazy right wing trump supporter
Yes, nothing to see here
Vote for who you like but at least admit you don't care how right wing she is, rather than ignoring what is slapping you in the face
Sausagenbacon · 28/06/2024 08:45
Oh hello Cassie.
Keeping your end up as ever .
So , for the last time. The Left won't engage with her.
But then the Left won't engage with ANYONE who's pro Women. And that includes thangham (in public, apparently there is a secret TD that's gc, according to posters here)
So the Right are drawn to her. So what?
To follow your points
- right wing people go to her events - how does she control that? Given the amount of abuse her followers get from TRAs at events, I have absolute admiration from them.
- taking money from organisations with right wing members. Well, if you were talking about ACTUAL rw organisations, I might accept that. But organisations 'with rw members'? So what?
- don't know about her nominating officer. I don't care.
Lastly, she might be RW, but trying to paint her as a borderline fascist is just pathetic.
Fwiw I know KJK is a loose cannon. I know she is irritating.
But she's an ordinary woman who has dedicated herself for supporting women's rights. Yes, she'll probably lose her deposit, but she deserves my support.
And that's the limit of my interaction with you.
CassieMaddox · 27/06/2024 23:07
Yes. They should know that pointing out any of KJKs foibles results in a good shoeing!
Central Bristol people might be interested in her latest video claiming a police car outside the Beacon is "there for her" while she sits a fair distance away drinking coffee. It's a bit odd to say the least to think a marked police car in Central Bristol is there for you 😂
IwantToRetire · 27/06/2024 20:59
I cant believe anyone is still thinking they can post on a thread on FWR that KJK is right wing pro trump.
About every other thread on here shows that nobody, even those who dont particularly support her think has any validity.
Try looking at old threads about KJK, and then think of a better arguement not to vote her. Not one based on nonsense!
DexaVooveQhodu · 27/06/2024 20:53
KJK is so unlikely to win that voting fir her won't actively do any harm, but I don't think she's at all a good representative of the GC voice. Isn't she a Trump supporter whose views are decidedly non-feminist and pro-gender-conformity, with no more in common with GC feminism than TRAs (ie Red circle here)
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CassieMaddox · 28/06/2024 08:57
You missed the points about LWS stewards marching with Tommy Robinson and Hearts of Oak (also Tommy Robinson) live streaming from the front row of her events.
The denial is something else.
There is also her recent blatantly transphobic comments but that is just objectionable not far right.
KJK is damaging the GC movement and the chances of any government taking us seriously. Having heard her haranguing the police officers last night I wouldn't want to talk with her either. Not surprised politicians give her a wide berth. Who wants to go into a conversation knowing they are going to get insulted, and broadcast on twitter?
Sausagenbacon · 28/06/2024 08:45
Oh hello Cassie.
Keeping your end up as ever .
So , for the last time. The Left won't engage with her.
But then the Left won't engage with ANYONE who's pro Women. And that includes thangham (in public, apparently there is a secret TD that's gc, according to posters here)
So the Right are drawn to her. So what?
To follow your points
- right wing people go to her events - how does she control that? Given the amount of abuse her followers get from TRAs at events, I have absolute admiration from them.
- taking money from organisations with right wing members. Well, if you were talking about ACTUAL rw organisations, I might accept that. But organisations 'with rw members'? So what?
- don't know about her nominating officer. I don't care.
Lastly, she might be RW, but trying to paint her as a borderline fascist is just pathetic.
Fwiw I know KJK is a loose cannon. I know she is irritating.
But she's an ordinary woman who has dedicated herself for supporting women's rights. Yes, she'll probably lose her deposit, but she deserves my support.
And that's the limit of my interaction with you.
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OldCrone · 28/06/2024 09:05
You missed the points about LWS stewards marching with Tommy Robinson
She's not responsible for what her volunteers do in their spare time.
and Hearts of Oak (also Tommy Robinson) live streaming from the front row of her events.
Her events are open to everyone. TRAs have also filmed at her events. Does that make her a TRA?
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