Random set of the day: Market Street
Posted by Huwbot,
Today's random set is 10190 Market Street, released during 2007. It's one of 3 Advanced models sets produced that year. It contains 1248 pieces and 3 minifigs, and its retail price was US$89.99/£59.99.
It's owned by 4,779 Brickset members. If you want to add it to your collection you should find it for sale at BrickLink, where new ones sell for around $2,432.10, or eBay.
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I thought this was in the Modulars line. Huh.
This has got to be the most expensive set ever on RSotD!
The only Modular I don’t have. I should have bought it when it was new, but alas. There’s no way I’m paying the aftermarket price for it though; I’ve made peace with the fact that it’ll forever be a hole in my collection.
@AverageChimaEnjoyer said:
"I thought this was in the Modulars line. Huh."
It is. It was just under a different theme.
I have this!
I accidentally dropped the courtyard area at one point, but it’s mostly fixed now.
It was NOT a modular. It was a Factory set. I can’t believe anyone would pay that for this “set.”
This was the first set in the modular building line. Such a classic. It is also one of the most expensive LEGO sets in existence!
@AverageChimaEnjoyer said:
"I thought this was in the Modulars line. Huh."
From its database entry: "Although branded Factory, we have categorized this as Creator Expert like the other modular buildings, following confirmation that LEGO consider it to be one in the Assembly Square designer video."
@Maxbricks14 said:
"This was the first set in the modular building line. Such a classic. It is also one of the most expensive LEGO sets in existence!"
I thought that was 10182 Café Corner? (Another one that I’m lucky enough to have gotten before it retired)
The price for new ones... ouch.
This was the first time I ever saw the whip piece curled in on itself. I didn't even know that was possible, and surely if it was, it had to be illegal, but there it is, sanctioned by the LEGO group. It's a rather clever technique for some ornate ironwork.
The use of Exo-Force Hair as lettuce or a cabbage is also pretty neat.
Here for the comments. Popcorn ready. (Especially people moaning about the price.)
Pro tip: Source parts. Build set. Save money. The end.
Designed by two bald guys and a teenager.
Every year I regret more and more not getting into the Modular Buildings line. I have all the Ninjago Cities, but none of the regulars. Every time a new one comes out I think it's cool and I want it, but I know that if I get one of 'em I'm gonna have to get ALL of them.
This one is one of the classics though. That original trio of red, blue, and green are so nostalgic and iconic at this point. Maybe I'll get my hands on them someday, but today's not that day...
@xurotaryrocket said:
"Here for the comments. Popcorn ready. (Especially people moaning about the price.)
Pro tip: Source parts. Build set. Save money. The end.
"
Agreed. It can be built quite affordably if parted together. Just checked Bricklink and it's about $350 - and if you substitute 17 parts (the 2 half-baseplates, the 5x dark blue arches, and the 10 white windows) it's only $200. And that's assuming you have zero of the parts already in your inventory, when in reality everyone will have a lot of the parts already since so many are common parts.
For that aftermarket price, you could probably build about nine of there if you just Bricklink the parts.
@MCLegoboy said:
"This was the first time I ever saw the whip piece curled in on itself. I didn't even know that was possible, and surely if it was, it had to be illegal, but there it is, sanctioned by the LEGO group. It's a rather clever technique for some ornate ironwork."
6355 did it back in 1989.
@Maxbricks14 said:
"This was the first set in the modular building line. Such a classic. It is also one of the most expensive LEGO sets in existence!"
2nd…Cafe Corner was released April 2007, this one came out in October 2007, followed by Green Grocer in 2008.
@tmtomh said:
" @xurotaryrocket said:
"Here for the comments. Popcorn ready. (Especially people moaning about the price.)
Pro tip: Source parts. Build set. Save money. The end.
"
Agreed. It can be built quite affordably if parted together. Just checked Bricklink and it's about $350 - and if you substitute 17 parts (the 2 half-baseplates, the 5x dark blue arches, and the 10 white windows) it's only $200. And that's assuming you have zero of the parts already in your inventory, when in reality everyone will have a lot of the parts already since so many are common parts."
That’s what I did, but I don’t think that I spent nearly that much. I brick picked the parts list from my local buy/trade/sell second-hand LEGO store at $3.00/0.5lb. It took a while but I found all of the white windows and 3/5 of the dark blue arches. I’m using the variant mold on the remaining arches until I find the last two. I’m not sure why swapping out the 2 dark bluish gray 16x32 baseplates for a dark bluish gray 32x32 baseplate would save money; as dark bluish gray baseplates are much more common in 16x32 than in 32x32 and should therefore be much less expensive. Plus, using a full baseplate prevents you from swapping which half of the building is on which side, thereby limiting the modular’s modularity.
I don't think it has aged as well as the others, and don't feel like I am missing out.
Only modular I don't have. Hope to find it on a garage sale sometimes for $50.
I wish we'd got a proper market. Maybe an updated version of this one day would be good, with Dutch architecture and a full market scene.
@AverageChimaEnjoyer said:
"I thought this was in the Modulars line. Huh."
It's...complicated. Officially, it was released under the LEGO Factory theme, as you can tell from the box. It was designed by someone who was not employed by the company, but it was also designed to the standard that had just been established by Cafe Corner. Because of the ambiguity, some consider it to be essential to having a complete Modular collection, while others write it off first thing when compiling a list of sets they need to acquire.
Where it gets really messy is that some of the LEGO Factory sets were designed by people who were invited to design official sets. I know that both 10192 and 10191 were designed by invite, because the two Space builders were rather prominent within the online community at the time, and talked about stuff like having to rename the factions so they wouldn't be transferring legal ownership of their own MOC themes to The LEGO Group. So, it might most accurately be described as a sanctioned fan design.
I remember this set. It was nothing like I was collecting. I just dimissed it as another Creative house set. I've never thought this thing would turn into Modular Madness.
Ah, the neverending debate about whether Market Street is an actual modular or not... Personally, I can understand both opinions. It doesn't have the same aesthetic definition as the other modulars (kind of a rugged design, no classic smiley faces), it was a Factory set and a fan model, but at the same time it is officially considered a modular by TLG, it has the pin connections on the sides, the lamppost is there and it does have some advanced building techniques.
So yeah, it will always be an arguable set, but the facts are there to speak.
So given that it seems to be made out of fairly common pieces, what’s the reason for that massive aftermarket value?
@Brickalili said:
"So given that it seems to be made out of fairly common pieces, what’s the reason for that massive aftermarket value?"
The usual madness
I actually bought this for half price from the Brighton Lego Store, back when retiring sets were sold off for half price at the end of the year sale.
Not a set that i have ever wanted.
It's a beautiful model. I still remember seeing this and the Café Corner for the first time in the 2007 Shop @Home catalog. UCS buildings! How cool!
@watcher21 said:
" @Brickalili said:
"So given that it seems to be made out of fairly common pieces, what’s the reason for that massive aftermarket value?"
The usual madness"
No one liked it then so there are less available now. cloudcity
I actually built this from scratch buying the parts, albeit with some modifications (minus one level) The most expensive parts would be the light bluish grey doors, white tubes and dark blue arch... Other than that you are good to get all parts quite easily... All the best to anyone attempting this!
Not a modular. Change my mind.
Only Modular I bought second hand for €150 at the time which was a steal. Too bad the white hoses yellowed considerably.
@PurpleDave said:
" @AverageChimaEnjoyer said:
"I thought this was in the Modulars line. Huh."
It's...complicated. Officially, it was released under the LEGO Factory theme, as you can tell from the box. It was designed by someone who was not employed by the company, but it was also designed to the standard that had just been established by Cafe Corner. Because of the ambiguity, some consider it to be essential to having a complete Modular collection, while others write it off first thing when compiling a list of sets they need to acquire.
Where it gets really messy is that some of the LEGO Factory sets were designed by people who were invited to design official sets. I know that both 10192 and 10191 were designed by invite, because the two Space builders were rather prominent within the online community at the time, and talked about stuff like having to rename the factions so they wouldn't be transferring legal ownership of their own MOC themes to The LEGO Group. So, it might most accurately be described as a sanctioned fan design."
Dang! Never knew that 10192 existed. Thanks for the education. I kind of really need that now.
@Brainslugged said:
"Not a modular. Change my mind."
It is included in the mini-modular set that was released a few years ago 10230 , sandwiched between Cafe Corner and Green Grocer, so that in my eyes recognises it definitively and categorically as a modular building.
The way TLG are going, they'll re-release this exactly as is for £150 and ruin the after-market, and all the invest-bros will have a teary temper tantrum. Again
And I will laugh. Again
@MCLegoboy said:
"This was the first time I ever saw the whip piece curled in on itself. I didn't even know that was possible, and surely if it was, it had to be illegal, but there it is, sanctioned by the LEGO group. It's a rather clever technique for some ornate ironwork.
The use of Exo-Force Hair as lettuce or a cabbage is also pretty neat."
This technique was used in 6056 Dragon Wagon (and maybe even earlier in some of the alternate model images for various Castle sets), si it is definitely not an illegal technique.
Market Street, I could use a bite to eat, but I don't want to buy a whole raw fish...
This set's status is the paleontological clue to how LEGO wants you to build your modular collections: it's the missing link between official, branded models and MOCs.
26x ROI over 17 years. Not adjusted for (rampant) inflation, of course. Not bad. Lego, better known as Le Gold.
While I have some of the Modulars, I am by no means a completionist. And in any case I never understood why people liked this set in the first place. To me it's by far the ugliest of the Modulars and perhaps even the ugliest set of a house ever released. Nothing seems to fit together aesethically. Yes, there are buildings for example in the Netherlands that look kind of similar, but this one for me just fails on so many levels.
Zero regrets not getting this.
The only Modular I really regretted not getting was the Green Grocer, but of course there is a way around that...
AFOL Bingo.
"You could buy a real one for less money"
@lost_scotsman said:
"The way TLG are going, they'll re-release this exactly as is for £150 and ruin the after-market, and all the invest-bros will have a teary temper tantrum. Again
And I will laugh. Again"
Like others have said, this set can be built for much less than that price, so I'm not sure even a straight re-release would bring it down all that much.
@MeisterDad said:
"Designed by two bald guys and a teenager."
Don't speak ill of the dead!
The guy who designed this was prominent AFOL and Ambassador Erik Brok. He died in June 2007 apparently of cancer, and never got to see this become a set. Source: https://brickset.com/article/68719/review-10190-market-street and https://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=3550&t=i&v=a
@watcher21 said:
[[[[So given that it seems to be made out of fairly common pieces, what’s the reason for that massive aftermarket value?]]
I'm assuming that's the price for a MiSB copy.
@lost_scotsman said:[[The way TLG are going, they'll re-release this exactly as is for £150 and ruin the after-market, and all the invest-bros will have a teary temper tantrum. Again]]
Lego couldn't release the *exactly* as is; they'd need to do something different for the cabbages, as molds that haven't been used for long enough are retired and destroyed. Sure, Lego could cut a new one, but a re-release is almost certainly never happening, so it's academic, anyway.]]
@TheOtherMike said:
" @watcher21 said:
""So given that it seems to be made out of fairly common pieces, what’s the reason for that massive aftermarket value?"
I'm assuming that's the price for a MiSB copy.
@lost_scotsman said:"The way TLG are going, they'll re-release this exactly as is for £150 and ruin the after-market, and all the invest-bros will have a teary temper tantrum. Again"
Lego couldn't release the *exactly* as is; they'd need to do something different for the cabbages, as molds that haven't been used for long enough are retired and destroyed. Sure, Lego could cut a new one, but a re-release is almost certainly never happening, so it's academic, anyway.""
Don't forget about the old doors - they haven't been seen in a LONG time!
@StyleCounselor said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @AverageChimaEnjoyer said:
"I thought this was in the Modulars line. Huh."
It's...complicated. Officially, it was released under the LEGO Factory theme, as you can tell from the box. It was designed by someone who was not employed by the company, but it was also designed to the standard that had just been established by Cafe Corner. Because of the ambiguity, some consider it to be essential to having a complete Modular collection, while others write it off first thing when compiling a list of sets they need to acquire.
Where it gets really messy is that some of the LEGO Factory sets were designed by people who were invited to design official sets. I know that both 10192 and 10191 were designed by invite, because the two Space builders were rather prominent within the online community at the time, and talked about stuff like having to rename the factions so they wouldn't be transferring legal ownership of their own MOC themes to The LEGO Group. So, it might most accurately be described as a sanctioned fan design."
Dang! Never knew that 10192 existed. Thanks for the education. I kind of really need that now."
Those 2 sets are some of the most despised sets ever by the hive of scum and villainy known as AFOLs.
@StyleCounselor:
Heh. I just bought the not-3VIL set on severe discount at one of the last Brickworld scratch-and-dent sales because the parts looked semi-useful-ish.
@AustinPowers:
For all the grief this set gets over aesthetics and build quality (and keeping in mind the fan designer passed away either right before or right after this released, and hasn’t been around to defend his work for a long time), it’s important to remember that this was restricted to the parts available through LEGO Factory. I took a peek to see if I could design something that I could get shipped to me in an official box (as the LF program was designed to do), and just gave up after seeing how limited the parts selection was. It was like trying to build when all you have available is Classic buckets.
@RogueWhistler:
A lot of the value is probably tied up in the box and instructions.
*Inserts Money, Money, Money by ABBA Song*
I never liked this when I saw it on shelves or on display at The Lego Store, so I never got it. No regrets. I still think it’s a hideous design and the absolute worst modular-compatible set Lego has released (outside of Bricklink). It never should have been released.
Amazingly, I bought this and Café Corner ON SALE on Amazon in 2007. Yes on sale!
I'll sell it MISB someday to pay for my kid's college. ;)
@faster345 said:
"Amazingly, I bought this and Café Corner ON SALE on Amazon in 2007. Yes on sale!
I'll sell it MISB someday to pay for my kid's college. ;) "
It'll have to be a community college once they release remakes of each with a Captain Rex.
@lost_scotsman said:
"The way TLG are going, they'll re-release this exactly as is for £150 and ruin the after-market, and all the invest-bros will have a teary temper tantrum. Again
And I will laugh. Again"
Cool story, bro.
The one that got away or more precise one of three "modulars" I miss in my collection and I will probably buy if I ever win a lot of money.
Yes, it's a modular. Those that say otherwise are just trying to worm their way out of paying for one as part of their modular collection. Several of the pieces in this set are very rare and very expensive too.
As to the set itself, I definitely don't understand the hate. It had some interesting techniques for the time, and some nice detailing too. It was a worthy entry for its era. Not as mind-blowing as the Café Corner, but worthy. It was obviously AFOL-designed and targeted.
I have a copy, and am glad I do. But I also decided to build a MOC that was heavy on medium and dark blue back in the day, and and kit-bashed this whole set for it. Only later did I discover how fabulously expensive this set had become. So what. I have no regrets. I'd rather have the fruits of my own creativity than a museum piece with high resale value.
My only regret about this set is not buying a sh!t ton of them at the Lego store when they went EOL. I think they were like 60 bucks a piece and had stacks of them. Same with Cloud City but that's another one I regret.
@oldtodd33 said:
"My only regret about this set is not buying a sh!t ton of them at the Lego store when they went EOL. I think they were like 60 bucks a piece and had stacks of them. Same with Cloud City but that's another one I regret. "
Most deservedly ended up right next to the E.T. Atari game.
It's easy. If you own it, it's part of the modular collection. If you don't it isn't.
Not at all attractive or in the class of the real modulars. I had it, sold it, don't miss it. I didn't like to display it. The others are all on display.
@AverageChimaEnjoyer said:
"I thought this was in the Modulars line. Huh."
It is in the Modular Buildings category, but that is a subtheme of themes such as Advanced Models (like this set), Creator Expert, and Icons.
I bought the mock up box at skaerbaek years ago with a used set which has been displayed in the lego Designer house. Now it's in my office and noone has a clue about it's worth.
@yellowcastle said:
" @oldtodd33 said:
"My only regret about this set is not buying a sh!t ton of them at the Lego store when they went EOL. I think they were like 60 bucks a piece and had stacks of them. Same with Cloud City but that's another one I regret. "
Most deservedly ended up right next to the E.T. Atari game."
I have that game. My dad (probably, because it’s not really my mom’s style) picked it up as a joint Christmas present for my brother and me. Plays better than the Raiders of the Lost Ark game, which has never, to my knowledge, even come close to being beaten on out cartridge.
I wasn't back into LEGO when this was available. I didn't love how it looked, but over time it did grow on me. I started to bricklink it but then quit and focused on GG and CC instead. But over time I have grown some interest in Dutch architecture, so I can appreciate this more now. I would never pay that much money for it so I'm okay with it not being in my collection.
@sjr60 said:
"It's easy. If you own it, it's part of the modular collection. If you don't it isn't."
I don't own it, and consider it to be part of the collection. So that's one data point against your thesis.
@TheOtherMike said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It's easy. If you own it, it's part of the modular collection. If you don't it isn't."
I don't own it, and consider it to be part of the collection. So that's one data point against your thesis."
Let me take a shot at it:
A) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the Factory sub theme, go for it.
B) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the modular sub theme, go for it.
C) If you don’t own it but want it, buy it and then go to A or B
D) If you don’t own it don’t want it, you are correct and awesome.
@yellowcastle said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It's easy. If you own it, it's part of the modular collection. If you don't it isn't."
I don't own it, and consider it to be part of the collection. So that's one data point against your thesis."
Let me take a shot at it:
A) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the Factory sub theme, go for it.
B) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the modular sub theme, go for it.
C) If you don’t own it but want it, buy it and then go to A or B
D) If you don’t own it don’t want it, you are correct and awesome."
I'm in category D. I only want modulars that have more to their interior than one staircase.
@TheOtherMike said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It's easy. If you own it, it's part of the modular collection. If you don't it isn't."
I don't own it, and consider it to be part of the collection. So that's one data point against your thesis."
Let me take a shot at it:
A) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the Factory sub theme, go for it.
B) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the modular sub theme, go for it.
C) If you don’t own it but want it, buy it and then go to A or B
D) If you don’t own it don’t want it, you are correct and awesome."
I'm in category D. I only want modulars that have more to their interior than one staircase."
I only want Modulars that have Batman.
@TheOtherMike said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It's easy. If you own it, it's part of the modular collection. If you don't it isn't."
I don't own it, and consider it to be part of the collection. So that's one data point against your thesis."
Let me take a shot at it:
A) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the Factory sub theme, go for it.
B) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the modular sub theme, go for it.
C) If you don’t own it but want it, buy it and then go to A or B
D) If you don’t own it don’t want it, you are correct and awesome."
I'm in category D. I only want modulars that have more to their interior than one staircase."
So... no Cafe Corner then?
@TheOtherMike said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It's easy. If you own it, it's part of the modular collection. If you don't it isn't."
I don't own it, and consider it to be part of the collection. So that's one data point against your thesis."
Let me take a shot at it:
A) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the Factory sub theme, go for it.
B) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the modular sub theme, go for it.
C) If you don’t own it but want it, buy it and then go to A or B
D) If you don’t own it don’t want it, you are correct and awesome."
I'm in category D. I only want modulars that have more to their interior than one staircase."
It's lego. Design your own interior
I always buy two copies of modular buildings. Two copies of this game together looks spectacular. A lot of people who hate this set are because they don't have this set, nor can they get this set. So they calm their frustration in this way, deceiving themselves and others.
I just built this last week. I got most of the parts from bulk lots. Substituted the slightly cheaper blue raised arches and white hoses with detachable ends, but otherwise “complete”. I’ve got them all now, but still need to build a couple (cafe corner and jazz club).
I’m in the not a modular camp, but I still went and built this set from bulk. I always thought it was an odd looking building until I took a trip to Amsterdam and realized what architectural style it was meant to imitate. I appreciated it a lot more after that trip. The best part was when strolling the streets of Amsterdam and I came across a bakery that had a croissant sign just like the one in the set, which made me realize how authentically Amsterdam this set is.
https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/OaTd3-MkimgZqX3UBp_aBA/o.jpg
@PurpleDave said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It's easy. If you own it, it's part of the modular collection. If you don't it isn't."
I don't own it, and consider it to be part of the collection. So that's one data point against your thesis."
Let me take a shot at it:
A) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the Factory sub theme, go for it.
B) If you own it and want to think of it as part of the modular sub theme, go for it.
C) If you don’t own it but want it, buy it and then go to A or B
D) If you don’t own it don’t want it, you are correct and awesome."
I'm in category D. I only want modulars that have more to their interior than one staircase."
I only want Modulars that have Batman."
Now I'm picturing a Wayne company building in the style of 76178.