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In Boston, new IRS commissioner promises a new experience for taxpayers

'The process takes way too long'

In Boston, new IRS commissioner promises a new experience for taxpayers

'The process takes way too long'

WE GET MOST OFTEN DURING THE PANDEMIC. THE IRS ONLY ANSWERED 11% OF ITS PHONE CALLS THAT NUMBER HAS IMPROVED, BUT IT’S STILL IN THIS LAST YEAR WAS JUST 29%. HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT BETTER? AND IS IT GOOD ENOUGH? WELL, ACTUALLY WE HAD BY ALL MEASURES, A VERY SUCCESSFUL FILING SEASON. AND HE’S NOT WRONG, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FEW YEARS BEFORE THIS ONE. THE IRS HAS MADE BIG STRIDES IN IMPROVING CUSTOMER SERVICE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAIN PHONE LINE FOR THE IRS, WE ANSWERED NEARLY NINE OF TEN CALLS THAT CAME IN OUR WAIT TIME WAS DOWN TO THREE MINUTES, BUT THERE’S MORE WORK TO DO. WE HAVE OTHER PHONE LINES THAT ARE LAGGING BEHIND IN TERMS OF CUSTOMER SERVICE. COMMISSIONER DANNY WERFEL IS FRESH OFF HIS FIRST FULL TECH SEASON ATOP THE IRS, WHICH FINALLY CLEARED ITS MASSIVE BACKLOG OF PAPER RETURNS THAT PILED UP DURING THE PANDEMIC SHUTDOWN. BUT MANY FILERS WHO WAITED MONTHS FOR REFUNDS SAID THEY NEVER WANTED TO FILE BY MAIL IN THE FIRST PLACE. THERE ARE STILL, BY THE IRS’S OWN ESTIMATE, ABOUT 150 TO 200 FORMS THAT CANNOT BE E-FILED. SO WE ARE WORKING TO MAKE EVERY CORRESPONDENCE AND EVERY FORM UPLOADABLE DIGITALLY. BY NEXT YEAR, WE’LL HAVE SOMETHING LIKE 80% OF ALL THE VOLUME THAT RUNS THROUGH THE IRS AVAILABLE TO DO ELECTRONICALLY, THANKS TO A $60 BILLION BOOST. THE IRS GOT FROM THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, WERFUL SAYS TAXPAYERS WILL SEE A MUCH MORE MODERN AGENCY SOON. IT SHOULDN’T LOOK LARGELY THE SAME. WE WILL HAVE FAILED IF IT LOOKS LARGELY THE SAME. ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS IN THAT THE DIRECT FILE PROGRAM, WHICH ALLOWED TAXPAYERS IN MASSACHUSETTS AND A HANDFUL OF OTHER STATES TO USE THE IRS AS OWN WEBSITE FOR THEIR TAXES, IT’S ROLLING OUT NATIONWIDE NEXT YEAR, BUT THERE ARE STILL PLENTY OF PROBLEMS TO FIX, INCLUDING TAXPAYER IDENTITY THEFT. THAT’S WHEN SOMEONE FILES TAXES IN SOMEONE ELSE’S NAME. THOSE CAN TAKE OVER A YEAR TO BE RESOLVED. AND I AGREE THE PROCESS TAKES WAY TOO LONG TO GET RIGHT. THIS IS WHY WE’RE HIRING. WE NEED MORE IRS PERSONNEL THAT CAN HELP THE LONG LINE OF PEOPLE. AND AMONG THE PLACES THE IRS IS STILL HIRING RIGHT HERE IN NEW ENGLAND, ONE OF THE AGENCY’S LARGEST FACILITIES IS IN ANDOVER
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In Boston, new IRS commissioner promises a new experience for taxpayers

'The process takes way too long'

The IRS has had a difficult stretch, ever since the pandemic led to a massive backlog of unprocessed paper returns which took years to clear. Taxpayers couldn't get answers, largely because customer service agents were impossible to reach. But now the agency has a new leader, and he's promising a new, much different IRS that he says could be unrecognizable to Americans. Commissioner Danny Werfel is in Boston for a few days, in part to visit the agency's facility in Andover — one of the largest in the country — and he sat down with NewsCenter 5 for a wide-ranging interview."We had, by all measures, a very successful filing season," Werfel said, fresh off his first full tax filing season. He's not wrong. Statistics about the IRS's customer service from the National Taxpayer Advocate are heading in the right direction. During the pandemic, the agency answered just 11 percent of its phone calls. That number has risen to 29 percent, but Werfel says it’s significantly higher for the main IRS phone number."If you look at the main phone line for the IRS, that's our 1040 line. That's where 80 to 90 percent of all the calls come in. We answered nearly nine of 10 calls that came in. Our wait time was down to three minutes," Werfel said. "But there's more work to do. We have other phone lines that are lagging behind in terms of customer service."The pandemic processing delays mostly involved paper returns, those filed by mail. Numerous taxpayers who had their returns held up say they wouldn't have filed on paper but were forced to by the IRS's antiquated systems. The taxpayer advocate says somewhere between 150 and 200 forms are still not able to be e-filed."We are working to make every correspondence in every form uploadable digitally," Werfel said. "By next year, we'll have something like 80 percent of all the volume that runs through the IRS available to do electronically."Thanks to a $60 billion boost the IRS got from President Joe Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, Werfel says taxpayers will see a much more modern agency in the next few years."It shouldn't look largely the same. We will have failed if it looks largely the same," he said. "It should feel no different in interacting with the IRS than with your favorite bank and your online banking solution. Everything should be at your fingertips."One of the first steps on that road is the agency's Direct File program, which allowed taxpayers with relatively simple returns in Massachusetts and a handful of other states to use the IRS's own website for their taxes. After a successful pilot, that program is rolling out nationwide next year.But there are still plenty of other problems to fix, including taxpayer identity theft, which is when someone files taxes in someone else's name and makes off with their refund. The average resolution time for those cases is 19 months."The process takes way too long to get right," Werfel said. "This is why we're hiring. We need more IRS personnel that can help the long line of people who are waiting to get their taxes corrected and their records corrected because they've been a victim."Among the locations where the IRS is hiring is at their facility on Interstate 93 in Andover.

The IRS has had a difficult stretch, ever since the pandemic led to a massive backlog of unprocessed paper returns which took years to clear. Taxpayers couldn't get answers, largely because customer service agents were impossible to reach.

But now the agency has a new leader, and he's promising a new, much different IRS that he says could be unrecognizable to Americans. Commissioner Danny Werfel is in Boston for a few days, in part to visit the agency's facility in Andover — one of the largest in the country — and he sat down with NewsCenter 5 for a wide-ranging interview.

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"We had, by all measures, a very successful filing season," Werfel said, fresh off his first full tax filing season.

He's not wrong. Statistics about the IRS's customer service from the National Taxpayer Advocate are heading in the right direction. During the pandemic, the agency answered just 11 percent of its phone calls. That number has risen to 29 percent, but Werfel says it’s significantly higher for the main IRS phone number.

"If you look at the main phone line for the IRS, that's our 1040 line. That's where 80 to 90 percent of all the calls come in. We answered nearly nine of 10 calls that came in. Our wait time was down to three minutes," Werfel said. "But there's more work to do. We have other phone lines that are lagging behind in terms of customer service."

The pandemic processing delays mostly involved paper returns, those filed by mail. Numerous taxpayers who had their returns held up say they wouldn't have filed on paper but were forced to by the IRS's antiquated systems. The taxpayer advocate says somewhere between 150 and 200 forms are still not able to be e-filed.

"We are working to make every correspondence in every form uploadable digitally," Werfel said. "By next year, we'll have something like 80 percent of all the volume that runs through the IRS available to do electronically."

Thanks to a $60 billion boost the IRS got from President Joe Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, Werfel says taxpayers will see a much more modern agency in the next few years.

"It shouldn't look largely the same. We will have failed if it looks largely the same," he said. "It should feel no different in interacting with the IRS than with your favorite bank and your online banking solution. Everything should be at your fingertips."

One of the first steps on that road is the agency's Direct File program, which allowed taxpayers with relatively simple returns in Massachusetts and a handful of other states to use the IRS's own website for their taxes. After a successful pilot, that program is rolling out nationwide next year.

But there are still plenty of other problems to fix, including taxpayer identity theft, which is when someone files taxes in someone else's name and makes off with their refund. The average resolution time for those cases is 19 months.

"The process takes way too long to get right," Werfel said. "This is why we're hiring. We need more IRS personnel that can help the long line of people who are waiting to get their taxes corrected and their records corrected because they've been a victim."

Among the locations where the IRS is hiring is at their facility on Interstate 93 in Andover.