What's the ultimate do-it-all MTB? If you want a long-travel bike capable of taking on the toughest enduro courses and bike parks but still want something that climbs well enough to pedal all day, these bikes should be on your shortlist.
The 2024 Scott Ransom and Orbea Rallon are highly capable enduro bikes with 170 mm of suspension at each end, yet both are relatively lightweight and highly efficient on the climbs. But which is best?
The models we have for this test are unapologetically premium, but both have less expensive stablemates and either one is versatile enough to be the only mountain bike you need.
We have full reviews of the
Orbea and
Scott , but this article goes deep on how the two bikes compare.
Features and details First, let’s take a look at the unique features of both bikes.
The Scott was completely redesigned earlier this year, and the main story is that Scott hid the shock inside the downtube to match their other bikes, using a six-bar suspension system to make that work. They got rid of any lockout on the fork, but it still has the Trac Loc system on the shock that firms it up for climbing with a remote on the handlebar.
The Orbea Rallon was subtly updated at the end of last year, becoming half a degree slacker and increasing rear wheel travel to 167 mm. One cool thing is that Orbea allows you to customise the paint and parts on their website - I specified a 35 mm rise handlebar, 40 mm stem and 230 mm dropper post.
Weighed as they came, the Orbea is very slightly lighter, but part of that is down to the tire spec - the Orbea came with EXO+ tires front and rear while the Ransom had a DoubleDown out back. With the same wheels and tires fitted the weight is almost identical.
The Scott is more expensive if you’re paying in dollars, but here in the UK, there’s not much in it. And while this is the top-tier Ransom, there is an even more expensive version of the Rallon which goes for $11,000 or £11,400. On the other hand, both bikes are available with less expensive build kits, but Orbea is probably offering better value at the lower end of the range. As for the models we have on test, neither could be described as good value and both fit into the money-no-object category.
SpecsBoth have a full-carbon frame, Fox Factory suspension and alloy wheels. Both have moderately useful in-frame storage and the option to run a 27.5” rear wheel, although only Orbea will let you buy it with one.
The Scott has an adjustable headset offering 1.2 degrees of head angle adjustment, while the Orbea has a flip chip to adjust the angle of the whole front triangle by half a degree and the BB height by 7 mm. But if you go for a 27.5" rear wheel, the shock extender for a mullet setup only lets you run it in low mode.
The top-spec Ransom uses SRAM’s X0 Transmission gears and Code Ultimate brakes with 2 mm thick rotors that seem to improve consistency and bite. This second-tier Rallon makes do with Shimano's XT mechanical drivetrain which I have no problem with, but the Shimano XT brakes had a wondering bite point even after bleeding - I preferred the brakes on the Scott.
On the subject of spec it’s worth noting that Orbea allow you to choose either these EXO+ trail casing tires from Maxxis or the downhill versions. I’d much rather have their Double Down enduro casing. That's what you get on the rear of the Scott, albeit with an EXO+ on the front, but I think this is a good all-rounder setup for most people.
ClimbingBoth of these bikes are very impressive when it comes to climbing and covering ground. I don’t mean they’re better than you’d think considering the travel - I mean they’re better than a lot of trail bikes. They’re lighter than many trail bikes and both manage to keep pedal bob in check well even with the shocks fully open.
The Scott has the Trac Loc lever under the bar. When you push it once it makes the air spring more progressive by reducing its volume. I barely notice the difference while climbing - the effect is more noticeable when you’re pushing into a berm or pumping. That can be for flow trails but I barely use it for climbing. Push it again though and it firms up the compression damping, which I do sometimes use for a long smooth climb, just because it’s so easy to use you might as well. Ad in a race situation, I could see that being a benefit for those mid-stage sprints. The Orbea has a climb switch too, but it’s harder to reach so it’s less useful.
With the shocks left open, both bikes pedal equally well.
The real difference is in the seat tube angle. With the saddle set to my pedalling height, I measured the Orbea’s effective seat angle at 76.4 (low) or 76.9 (high), while the Scott is 77.4 degrees. So even in the steeper setting, the Rallon puts your weight slightly further back than the Ransom.
I did some back-to-back tests comparing the Orbea’s high and low settings on a loop with a steep climb and descent, and the high setting was better for me. In the low setting, I feel too off the back - I can’t get the power down as easily or control the front end on the steepest uphill sections. Fortunately, the high setting isn’t too high for descending. In fact, the BB is still about 7 mm lower than the Scott’s, and the head angle is only slightly steeper. I preferred the high setting on the Orbea - it’s noticeably better for climbing and I wouldn’t say it’s any worse for descending.
But with the Scott, the seat angle is
another half a degree steeper, and that’s what gives it the edge for me when it comes to climbing.
Descending I got on well with the Ransom from the first ride. It's easy to use the external sag indicator to set the sag, though I did end up softening the spring pressures until I had around 33% sag. I also ran the compression damping fully open for the most part. This gives a nicely balanced suspension feel, with good suppleness and support deeper into the stroke. It feels settled on steep terrain and tracks the ground well enough, while still avoiding harsh bottom-outs on big landings. The extra sag also helps compensate for the BB which is a little on the high side, at least compared to the Orbea.
The Rallon had me scratching my head a bit more. The shock has more adjustments but I couldn’t get it to feel as supple as the Ransom. I then measured the usable travel of both bikes by compressing the suspension with a ratchet strap, and the Orbea was only giving me 159 mm at the point where the ratchet strap was maxed out. There may be a bit more travel available if bottomed out
really hard, but when tested in the same way the Scott was giving me 172 mm of travel. This probably explains a lot of the difference in suspension feel, because, on paper, the kinematics are much the same. I think the Fox X2's bottom-out bumper is making it hard or impossible to use all the travel and making the suspension feel more restricted when compared to the Scott, which slightly over-delivers on travel by my measurements.
Geometry-wise, the bikes are remarkably similar. The main difference is the Rallon is a little bit lower (even in the high mode, which is what I used most often). But I never felt the Ransom was too high once I’d increased the sag to 33%. The ability to run the Rallon extra low is a potential advantage for riding especially steep trails with tight turns.
But while both bikes are solid descenders with well-judged geometry, the Ransom’s suspension is noticeably more forgiving on bigger hits thanks to the extra travel, and it's easier to set up too.
VerdictTo sum up, I’m thoroughly impressed with the versatility of both bikes. They both allow you to attack the toughest climbs and roughest descents without feeling compromised in either setting. But for me, the Scott Ransom is the better-performing bike both uphill or downhill.
The Ransom's hidden shock protects it from mud and grit, potentially reducing service requirements, but overall it's probably harder to live with thanks to its headset cable routing and two extra pivots,
So which would I buy with my own money? Well neither - I’d probably look at an entry-level
Canyon Strive or
Merida One-Sixty for half the price, but then I am the sort of person who buys own-brand baked beans. Money-no-object? The Ransom is the best all-rounder enduro bike I’ve tested so far.
Though I rode the Ransom in the rock and dust of Spain (pictured) I tested both bikes extensively in the mud and roots of Scotland, mostly using my local trails in the Tweed Valley. This allowed me to compare them directly to one another - sometimes riding both bikes on the same trails on the same day. It also made it possible to get a sense of how they stack up against other modern enduro bikes. I had both bikes on test simultaneously for two months so I often faced the dilemma of which to take out. It's a tough job, I know.
I rode them on a wide range of terrain, including steep climbs that are more often pushed than ridden, rocky downhill tracks (e.g. "Classic" and Matador"), bermy trail centers and plenty of tight rooty tech.
Seb Stott
Location: Tweed Valley, Scotland
Age: 31
Height: 6'3" / 191cm
Inseam: 37" / 93cm
Weight: 187 lbs / 85 kg, kitted
SS: They're both great!
PB: So which one would you buy?
SS: Neither of them
PB: What?
SS: Give me Tesco Baked Beans
PB:....
They're still baked beans.
You can find posh ones for way too much money but they don't hit the same nostalgia the real ones do.
Heinz is top tier or a decent supermarket own brand is a very close second
I'm actually shocked that the Ransom is currently leading over the Rallon in the poll.
Do these buyer's "need" this much bike? Probably not, just like they probably don't need their M5s and Raptors. It's a little bit of a flex and a little bit of wanting nice things or nicer things than the rest of us.
But when exo tires save like 600 grams over DD/DH casing it’s so easy for brands to save weight in the tires.
That makes it sound as if steep angles are universally better. Of course, in the real world they are not, because they are uncomfortable on flat and low angle pedaling sections.
Otherwise, a great video as usual.
With suspension setup, how often should riders recheck their settings? It's fascinating that the measured travel of both bikes is so different. Under deliver vs. over deliver.
As a fan of design details, that Scott is pretty awesome.
I tried running much lower PSI in a recent ride (84), and while this was more comfortable, it was a bit too soft and resulted in 3 understeer/off line events during a ride at speed. After bumping up to 90 PSI, the fork felt way more precise and reliable in terms of steering performance, but I felt absolutely worked at the bottom of a 13 minute descent.
Input/advice appreciated!
For me it's a YT Jeffsy Pro Carbon and it's the best thing I've ever pointed down or up a hill.
Interested in others though!
Two questions about the Ransom:
Would you use the standard handlebar, how does it compare to a One Up carbon handlebar?
How does the shock on the Ransom compare to the Rallon, was it adequate? Or is an exchange to the X2 or Super Deluxe a good idea?
thanks :-)
If that is the correct setting for him, what are lighter and less aggressive riders supposed to run? The suspension would feel bad for them guaranteed.
Firebird, Wreckoning, Megatower, damn just name one and it'll be better at everything but being ugly af