“How many women do you have on your management team?”, I asked a friend. “None” was his answer. “Not at the past four companies either”, he volunteered. “Have you ever worked for a woman?”, I continued. “Never”, he replied without blinking. His answers surprised me. It especially surprised me that he didn’t seem the least bit bothered by his observations. 50.8%+ of the US population are women. We live in 2024. I have been at Winning by Design for eight years now, the first five as co-CEO and the last three as CEO. We have accomplished a lot (that’s for a different day), but what I am most proud of is the core group who ran operations over the past years. All but one are also parents Three were born outside the USA Three had their first exec job at WbD (homegrown talent) Two are also founders of a non-profit And yes, all but one are women. Some men played pivotal roles: Winning by Design founder 🐶 Jacco van der Kooij of course and our Chief Learning Officer Dan Smith, as well as the chairperson of our board, Dave Boyce. Still, it was this group of seven who burnt the midnight oil for the past three years. There were plenty of meetings that were women-only. Once Jacco showed up in a wig just to fit in. Kudos to Derek Sather who fit right in even without the wig, but sometimes participated with his female avatar. Why post this picture now? We don’t have a leadership page on our website. Still, I think it’s powerful for young women (and men) to get used to pictures such as the one below. I am following the example of Jason M. Lemkin here, who makes a huge commitment each year to put more women than men on stage at SaaStr. We have along way to go. I wish our team was more diverse in other dimensions, but we have to start somewhere. Things at Winning by Design will change and perhaps we'll be more balanced soon, but I want to preserve this snapshot. There are plenty of companies with all male executives. It's cool that some have mostly women. Winning by Design is not alone! I want to give a shout out to my industry peer Andee Harris, who is the CEO at Challenger. Her team looks very much like mine. See the comments for her team’s picture. If your company’s executive team also has a majority of women, I would love to learn about your team (with or without picture) in the comments! #womeninbusiness #femaleceo #womeninrevenue
Love the headshots!
5 women out of an ELT of 9 and 5 out of 10 on the Operations Leadership team - all in I have 10 out of 19 Leadership spots held by Woman.
Dominique Levin - I could not agree more and thank you so much for the shout out. I also love that you and I collaborate and have vulnerable conversations. Unlike a number of our peers- we bring real diversity not just on our teams, but how we think about success and outcomes .
I guess I am not as surprised as you were Dominique by his answer nor the fact that he didn't even recognize how skewed his experience has been. Even with all of the evidence that female leaders are better for business and are more resilient in difficult times we still see the same trends. And like Lola said we can't be permissive. If you have the opportunity to leverage it - there are tons of qualified BIPOC female leaders that companies could hire and pull into the fold. We have to challenge ourselves especially if we call out others.
I have a lil community going on and the biggest asset is how we finally diversified with a lot of power-woman in our group. Very, very proud of that and more so, what a much nicer community/group that way. And our fair share of LGBTQ+ of course, the world we live in - we build ourselves, I always say. Don't want to work in some kind of fraternity bro culture, com'on.
"We have to start somewhere" is such a harmfully permissive statement and everything that is wrong with non intersectional feminism.
3 men and 6 women on mine. It's always been about that mix over the years. At one point my whole company was women...I didn't think deeply about it at the time, but I am sure looking back there were many reasons. Women attract other women, especially at the top - because there are many women that DO WANT to be at the top. Cheers to more women mostly leadership views! Maybe that will get us to some sort of parity.
Love this! So grateful to be a part of this company and this team! So grateful to have you as a mentor- saying that we have a female CEO is my favorite thing to say, especially during interviews! Thank you for showing me how to be an amazing boss woman! 💗
CEO, Board Member, advocate of apprenticeships and work based learning programs
4wAndee Harris this one is for you!