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White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism
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Half a century after the Civil Rights movement, vast disparities exist between blacks and whites in America. First and foremost, these group inequalities are caused by deep, historical trauma created by white racism and racist policies aimed against black persons and black culture. If slavery and Jim Crow caused a gaping wound, Civil Rights stitched it up; but underneath the wound still festers. How does this wound – the entrenched inequities between blacks and whites in America – continue to exist?
Does the answer to that question exist? I have read and heard a variety of black thinkers try to answer it as they look through different windows upon the situation. They have examined welfare, affirmative action, the black cultural prohibition against “acting white” and being studious, the victim mentality, the war on drugs, the “prison industrial complex,” school inequality, voter suppression, police brutality, and gun violence. All of these current realities take place in a nation in which blacks overall have much less wealth than whites because of the historical legacies of racist policies that forced blacks off any road to financial success.
Any one of these situations is dizzyingly complex. Functioning together, they (and no doubt other factors) produce this vast reality that we call racial inequity. There is no way that any one person can understand it all. It is a mountain of pain, tragedy, and injustice. Overwhelmed, one seeks a way to go forth in one’s thinking, one or two foundational principles that will allow one to help ameliorate the situation, or at least not make it worse.
Enter Robin DiAngelo. White Fragility is an explanation of Robin DiAngelo’s invention of the same name, an idea that seeks to explain why it is “so difficult to have conversations about race with white people,” in hopes that examining this will get whites to the point where they can do their part to dismantle systemic racism.
Her book stinks.
Never mind that White Fragility is based entirely on anecdotal evidence (DiAngelo’s own experiences and that of her African-American acquaintances), vast & false assumptions, stunningly faulty reasoning, zero-sum/us-and-them thinking, purely ideological (almost religious) zealotry, and laughably contradictory strictures.* Never mind that DiAngelo seems to believe that guilt-ridden navel-gazing is an effective tool for change. Never mind that she speaks for all people of color, saying that racism is a personal scourge “24/7” (they don’t all believe that). Never mind that she is the white savior extraordinaire, who views all black people as victims always, and only whites as powerful agents. Never mind that she encourages whites to patronize blacks in daily interaction, humoring them with mea culpas, and never arguing as equals, never challenging. Never mind that she hopes to combat racism using racist tools – racial stereotyping and racial prejudice. Never mind that she decries bad/good dualism (racist – bad, nonracist – good) even as she all-unwittingly pushes her own bad/good dualism (fragility – bad, stamina – good). And just don’t even bother being annoyed, frustrated, or aghast at the way she scorns the human emotions of white people – she and all her white friends will only call you “fragile” and laugh that their circular reasoning was proven right.
Never mind all that. The main reason this book stinks is that it focuses the attention on the wrong problem, one that has very little evidence to support its effects. The problem that DiAngelo sees as the fount of all modern black misery is modern white racism. Careful, though – she does not use the dictionary definition of racism, which is a belief in one’s own racial superiority and hostility towards people of other colors and races – what we can also call racial animus. Racism, according to DiAngelo and her ilk, is this mysterious essence, this inner miasma, that inhabits every white person (and no one else). The everyday interactions between whites and blacks, soaked with this inherent bias, is what produces the inequities we see. Racism and whiteness are identical in her book.
So – the fatherless African American family? If we are to believe Robin DiAngelo, it’s caused by your shadow thoughts, white people. The much poorer health outcomes for blacks on average? That’s on you, O guilty one. The fact that homicide is the #1 killer of young black men? You guessed it: it’s all to do with your secret “knowledge” that your life is better the way things are. The fact that those homicide victims are being killed by other young black men? You are a racist for even bringing up that fact. Don’t worry, though: all white people are racist. Just admit it, and all problems will be solved.
I don’t know what to think about the fact that White Fragility is a bestseller with so many glowing reviews. I guess unfettered ideology is attractive. I’m very, very sorry that anyone believes what Robin DiAngelo says. People, please, I beg you: If you want to make the world a better place, study policy. Understand that it is very complex and full of unintended consequences. Examine data, question assumptions. Don’t take this stuff on faith; it’s too important. Challenge both liberal and conservative racial orthodoxy. Think past the labels – treat yourself and others as human beings and individuals. Regard yourself and all others as agents – agents of personal and political change, agents of compassion and empathy.
Please don’t waste your time on the racial prejudices and double standards of identity-zealots like Robin DiAngelo.
* Examples of contradictory strictures: White people must be vulnerable. White people must not show their feelings. White people must not become silent. White people should be silent. White people must not leave the room when they’re upset. White people must leave the room when they’re upset.
Does the answer to that question exist? I have read and heard a variety of black thinkers try to answer it as they look through different windows upon the situation. They have examined welfare, affirmative action, the black cultural prohibition against “acting white” and being studious, the victim mentality, the war on drugs, the “prison industrial complex,” school inequality, voter suppression, police brutality, and gun violence. All of these current realities take place in a nation in which blacks overall have much less wealth than whites because of the historical legacies of racist policies that forced blacks off any road to financial success.
Any one of these situations is dizzyingly complex. Functioning together, they (and no doubt other factors) produce this vast reality that we call racial inequity. There is no way that any one person can understand it all. It is a mountain of pain, tragedy, and injustice. Overwhelmed, one seeks a way to go forth in one’s thinking, one or two foundational principles that will allow one to help ameliorate the situation, or at least not make it worse.
Enter Robin DiAngelo. White Fragility is an explanation of Robin DiAngelo’s invention of the same name, an idea that seeks to explain why it is “so difficult to have conversations about race with white people,” in hopes that examining this will get whites to the point where they can do their part to dismantle systemic racism.
Her book stinks.
Never mind that White Fragility is based entirely on anecdotal evidence (DiAngelo’s own experiences and that of her African-American acquaintances), vast & false assumptions, stunningly faulty reasoning, zero-sum/us-and-them thinking, purely ideological (almost religious) zealotry, and laughably contradictory strictures.* Never mind that DiAngelo seems to believe that guilt-ridden navel-gazing is an effective tool for change. Never mind that she speaks for all people of color, saying that racism is a personal scourge “24/7” (they don’t all believe that). Never mind that she is the white savior extraordinaire, who views all black people as victims always, and only whites as powerful agents. Never mind that she encourages whites to patronize blacks in daily interaction, humoring them with mea culpas, and never arguing as equals, never challenging. Never mind that she hopes to combat racism using racist tools – racial stereotyping and racial prejudice. Never mind that she decries bad/good dualism (racist – bad, nonracist – good) even as she all-unwittingly pushes her own bad/good dualism (fragility – bad, stamina – good). And just don’t even bother being annoyed, frustrated, or aghast at the way she scorns the human emotions of white people – she and all her white friends will only call you “fragile” and laugh that their circular reasoning was proven right.
Never mind all that. The main reason this book stinks is that it focuses the attention on the wrong problem, one that has very little evidence to support its effects. The problem that DiAngelo sees as the fount of all modern black misery is modern white racism. Careful, though – she does not use the dictionary definition of racism, which is a belief in one’s own racial superiority and hostility towards people of other colors and races – what we can also call racial animus. Racism, according to DiAngelo and her ilk, is this mysterious essence, this inner miasma, that inhabits every white person (and no one else). The everyday interactions between whites and blacks, soaked with this inherent bias, is what produces the inequities we see. Racism and whiteness are identical in her book.
So – the fatherless African American family? If we are to believe Robin DiAngelo, it’s caused by your shadow thoughts, white people. The much poorer health outcomes for blacks on average? That’s on you, O guilty one. The fact that homicide is the #1 killer of young black men? You guessed it: it’s all to do with your secret “knowledge” that your life is better the way things are. The fact that those homicide victims are being killed by other young black men? You are a racist for even bringing up that fact. Don’t worry, though: all white people are racist. Just admit it, and all problems will be solved.
I don’t know what to think about the fact that White Fragility is a bestseller with so many glowing reviews. I guess unfettered ideology is attractive. I’m very, very sorry that anyone believes what Robin DiAngelo says. People, please, I beg you: If you want to make the world a better place, study policy. Understand that it is very complex and full of unintended consequences. Examine data, question assumptions. Don’t take this stuff on faith; it’s too important. Challenge both liberal and conservative racial orthodoxy. Think past the labels – treat yourself and others as human beings and individuals. Regard yourself and all others as agents – agents of personal and political change, agents of compassion and empathy.
Please don’t waste your time on the racial prejudices and double standards of identity-zealots like Robin DiAngelo.
* Examples of contradictory strictures: White people must be vulnerable. White people must not show their feelings. White people must not become silent. White people should be silent. White people must not leave the room when they’re upset. White people must leave the room when they’re upset.
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2. The author explicitly states that our personal interactions don't cause racism, but only reinforce it. So, your statement about individual whites causing all black problems is wrong. I encourage you to revisit those chapters.
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I never said that the dictionary has the best definition of racism. As to bias, lexicographers in general try to describe language the way it is actually used, not the way they think it ought to be used (they leave that to notes on usage). In this regard, the dictionary definition of racism is limited, because the much more common definition of racism is racial prejudice and racial stereotyping. Even so, it is a hundred-year-old definition with a real working history, and it is disingenuous in the extreme for Robin to use a new definition and then accuse racism itself of using the "wrong" definition - the dictionary definition.
2. The author explicitly states that our personal interaction..."
The author defines racism and whiteness with the same definition.
Thanks for your encouragement, but I do not plan on revisiting anything written by Robin DiAngelo, if I can help it. She is a white supremacist in woke clothing.
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Black people across the diaspora asre descended from West Africans.
Barbary Pirates were part of the Ottoman Empire.
The Ottoman Empire was Arabic.
That awkward moment where your racist comment is nonsensical and irrelevant.
It has zero to do with this book,'
Just say you hate Black people and go.
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They are Arabic by every definition of the word.
Nice try but you remain loud and wrong.
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What lies?
Barbary Pirates are Berber Peoples and Arabic.
Black people are descended from West Africans, not North Africans or Arabs.
You are wrong and racist and you have egg on your face.
I'm embarrassed for you.
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What truth? You didn't provide any facts and were unable to substantiate anything you said.
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Apparently I read and comprehend better than you since I know that Barbary Pirates are Berbers and North Africans aren't the same as West Africans.
Nice try Karen.
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At least you are no longer trying to pass off your racism as truth
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Blah, blah, blah, blah.
You are so wrong and boring.
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And you, my dear Lois, are the embodiment of the triggered SJW who falls back on insulting people when they refuse to swallow your regurgitated muh-racism drivel.
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Thanks for driving people to my review.
This exchange has greatly increased the likes on my review of this book.
That pushes my review to the top and means what I say will be seen more often and by more people than what you say:)
So I just wanted to take this time to thank you.
You didn't intend for your racist trolling to result in more people reading and liking my already top review for this book on this site.
I always appreciate the commitment that racists have to keeping my reviews relevant.
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I was sent a message asking me to stop engaging and just report her comments as spam since she is hitting multiple reviews with the same copy pasted paragraph
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This is a perfect summation of why anyone who wants to actually foster change and dialogue should despise this book.
Kudos, perfect review.
* Vanessa & Lois, it is ridiculous that I am seeing your asinine arguments on so many review threads. Can you both please just go away, forever? Neither of you are doing anything except drawing attention away from the actual topic and towards your own mutual self-absorption. Get a room already, it's embarrassing. *
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Glad you got the narcissistic supply you need.
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Thanks, BV. You know, I hardly know who DiAngelo despises more - white people or black people. On the one hand, she believes whites are evil, yet all-powerful. On the other hand, she believes blacks are pure, but infantile.
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I would love to discuss the points that you made and compare notes on this issue. I believe we all want equality, but it is super hard to talk about issue without being deemed a racist even-though we have the best intention. I agree we should listen to both side of the political spectrum. It prevents us being swept up into a monolithic group thinking.
I was wondering which black intellects you listen to? I have been listening to people like Thomas Sowell, Glenn C. Loury, Chloé Valdary, candace owens, Kmele Foster, Thomas Chatterton Williams, John Wood Jr., John McWhorter, Daryl Davis, Coleman Hughes, etc to name a few.
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I'd say your list is pretty close to mine! The first of these that I ever heard of was John McWhorter, whose book Losing the Race I read back in 2011 or so (it was published in 2000). It was quite a revelation. I had never before heard a pro-black argument against affirmative action; I hadn't known such a thing was possible. It was very eye-opening, to say the least. McWhorter has another book, Winning the Race, that I haven't read yet, but plan to.
Yes, by all means let's discuss some of these points!
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Moreover, the expanded definition of “white supremacist” for example, is now tied to individuals such as Abraham Lincoln,Thomas Jefferson, and many others, including most of the thinkers of the Enlightenment. To think that we are in some way better people than our ancestors is arrogant and ignorant, because we, too, will be judged for our many imperfections by those who are here long after we’ve gone. DiAngelo and Kendi’s changing of the definition of these loaded terms including "racism", though frought with good intentions, does not disclose the end game, which is more political than anything, and will eventually lead to less, not more, harmony among people.
Though color-blindness as a term has now been deemed “racist,” I believe we will never get beyond our current strife until we can see the humanity that is in each individual, regardless of their immutable traits.
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