This is an inquiry with several specific questions to answer:
- Can questions about logic be answered wholly with rhetoric?
- Do questions about logic need to be phrased symbolically and formally?
- How/when can answers to questions about logic be recognized as wrong?
Let's start with Is the "omniscient-omnipotent-omnipresent" definition of God consistent? In this question, we are asked whether a collection of first-order axioms is consistent. The accepted answer says that yes, the collection is consistent. There are several deficiencies in the conversation:
- The axioms are not formalized
- There is a broad disagreement about how first-order quantifiers behave
- The use of the word "God" provokes a pile of tangential answers, mostly non-logical
- The accepted answer is wrong
I know that that last point might be contentious. So, in order to isolate the problem, I asked a recent question with a tighter focus, Can omnipotent beings exist?. I also wrote an answer which quotes standard mathematical work by well-established logicians. Because I suspect that there was not much reading of my sources going on, I'll quote explicitly here. First, from Pratt 1999, p5:
A simple case of interference is given by a Chu space having a constant row. If it also contains a constant column, then the two constants must be the same. Thus if A has a row of all 1’s it cannot also have a column of all 0’s. And if it has two or more different constant rows then it can have no constant columns at all.
This phenomenon formalizes a well-known paradox. Viewing points as objects, states as forces, and r(a, x) as 1 just when object a can resist force x, an immovable object is a row of all 1’s while an irresistible force is a column of all 0's.
He gives no proof, although I have requested one on MSE. Second, quoting Tao 2009, the first paragraph:
A fundamental tool in any mathematician’s toolkit is that of reductio ad absurdum: showing that a statement X is false by assuming first that X is true, and showing that this leads to a logical contradiction. A particulary pure example of reductio ad absurdum occurs when establishing the non-existence of a hypothetically overpowered object or structure X, by showing that X‘s powers are ���self-defeating”: the very existence of X and its powers can be used (by some clever trick) to construct a counterexample to that power. Perhaps the most well-known example of a self-defeating object comes from the omnipotence paradox in philosophy (“Can an omnipotent being create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it?”); more generally, a large number of other paradoxes in logic or philosophy can be reinterpreted as a proof that a certain overpowered object or structure does not exist.
In both cases, the inconsistency of omnipotent beings is taken as so obvious that it is used as a starting point for deeper mathematical inquiry, rather than being worthy of investigation or proof.
My question was closed as a duplicate of the first one. This is incorrect; my question refines the first question, and the accepted answer to the first question is refutably wrong.
So, are we logicians? And if we are, then what does that mean for answers which don't use logic or are wrong?