iPhone SE (2016) Have Apple finally deliberately killed the SE1 ?

[aespana]

Update:

Installed Instagram, Whatsapp (linked divice) and Telegram and tested the notifications and all worked fine. Can't test iMessage since I don't use an iCloud account in the phone.

I have this iPhone basically as an iPod with Youtube. YT Music and Spotify so can't do a proper test since is not my daily phone.

I think may be some problem with the Apple servers since you a seeing random notifications but I just can't discard that Apple really killed the SE1.

 

[dan98]

Thanks for checking.

However mine also work fine at first, but gradually worsens over a few days.
Erase and reinstall starts the process again.

All was fine on both phones until 2 weeks ago.

Interesting what you say about Apple’s servers though- does a WhatsApp notification (for example) rely on an Apple server to generate a notification?

 

[HuNay]

For what it’s worth, texts and Discord notifications work just fine on my 5s running iOS 12.5.7. No time bombs here.

Also, FaceTimed my friend who has a spare iPod on 6.1.6 the other day.

 

[dan98]

Yes true the older iOS still work fine. But unfortunately won’t install many current apps, and downgrading isn’t possible anyway.

 

[QCassidy352]

There have to be like a couple hundred of these still in active use. The idea that Apple would spend the time to engineer a nuke for them is pretty silly.

 

[HuNay]

Yes true the older iOS still work fine. But unfortunately won’t install many current apps, and downgrading isn’t possible anyway.

Yeah... Or it IS possible and it’s just too much work. Jailbreaking and such.

 

[dan98]

A couple of hundred thousand would be my guess. Outside of the fanboy tech bubble you might be surprised how many people are still using the 5/SE daily.

So perhaps you have a better explanation for the scenario I’ve outlined in my first post?

 

[dan98]

do you have a link for 15.8.2 jailbreak on the SE1? I’ll try anything at this point before both phones get consigned to landfill.

 

[HuNay]

do you have a link for 15.8.2 jailbreak on the SE1? I’ll try anything at this point before both phones get consigned to landfill.

Here you go: Dopamine on GitHub

 

[HuNay]

As for the laugh reaction I left before replying, sorry about that. It came off as derisive. While I don’t think they’re sabotaging old phones, it’s not THAT far fetched of a theory.

 

[now i see it]

They sabotaged the iPhone 6 by encouraging everyone to install iOS 12 on it — which absolutely ruined that phone — so yeah, they’ve got an agenda for sure

 

[VampyricGentleman]

If you google Instagram notifications not coming through iOS you’ll find a lot of people have similar issues to you. Not all of them are on your phone. I am using an iPhone 14 Pro Max and I haven’t been getting reliable third party app notifications since December despite reinstalls etc.

 

[ThunderSkunk]

Oh yeah, my iphone 6, iphone 8, ipad mini 5 nor ipad pro 2 are notifying. Just the iphone 13pm.

 

[turbineseaplane]

My SE1 fleet is all normal

 

[winxmac]

iPhone 5s and iPhone 6 and 6 Plus should have stopped at iOS 10

I would downgrade my iPhone 13 Pro to iOS 15.x or iOS 16.x if only Apple allows it

Downgrading iOS and iPadOS should also be looked at by investigatory bodies...

 

[Zaydax333]

Is it only third party apps that are affected, or all apps? Also curious what is your battery health at, if it's below 80%, could try getting a replacement.

IMO If it's all apps AND it's a re-occurring problem even after a fresh software install, that could indicates a hardware issue, not software.

Also for funsies: https://iosref.com/ios-usage Looks like less than ~1.4% of all active iPhones are SE Gen 1. Not saying that's a small/large amount, just providing a data point. Neat!

Last point: This model has been released for a bit more than 8 years at this point, and has been discontinued for almost 6 of those years. No company can support devices forever. They're classified as vintage devices, so Apple isn't on the hook to service them. In fact, it'll likely be obsolete this fall.

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If you've been using this phone for 6-8 years daily it's gonna have wear and tear. No consumer electronic will last forever and they can develop faults as materials degrade over time.

Apple says parts and service can be obtained for 5-7 years, with batteries up to 10. Which is why i suggest looking at getting a battery replacement, or taking it to a third party repair shop to see if they can find anything else to fix in the circuitry.

 

[AlixSPQR]

I have an SE1 as an outdoors mobile, with its own SIM card, and as far as I know it works fine, including Google Photos (see earlier post). I turned off iMessage on my main 13 mini, and then sent an SMS, and my SE1 immediately got a notification. I also have WhatsApp and FB Messenger, and they also work fine.

 

[Ctrlos]

Bar a mysterious bug last month where the weather and calendar apps just disappeared I've not had any issues.

 

[mirtft]

I've two SE1s which have both simultaneously stopped reliably sending notifications across all apps.

I've erased and reinstalled the iOS on both, but it didn't fix it. As it's the latest one possible (15.8.2), no updating is possible.

Is this Apple's deliberate timebomb to kill off it's last 4" model?

Ours are still fine.

 

[WB2Colorado]

I have an SE and 7 Plus on the latest version of iOS 15 and haven’t had an issue with notifications

 

[dan98]

Ours are still fine.

That's good to hear - Are any of yours running 15.8.2 on a daily basis? And all notifications are appearing OK on eg. Whatsapp?

 

[dan98]

Is it only third party apps that are affected, or all apps? Also curious what is your battery health at, if it's below 80%, could try getting a replacement.

IMO If it's all apps AND it's a re-occurring problem even after a fresh software install, that could indicates a hardware issue, not software.

Also for funsies: https://iosref.com/ios-usage Looks like less than ~1.4% of all active iPhones are SE Gen 1. Not saying that's a small/large amount, just providing a data point. Neat!

Last point: This model has been released for a bit more than 8 years at this point, and has been discontinued for almost 6 of those years. No company can support devices forever. They're classified as vintage devices, so Apple isn't on the hook to service them. In fact, it'll likely be obsolete this fall.

Obtaining service for your Apple product after an expired warranty - Apple Support

Learn about your options for getting service and parts for Apple devices that are past their warranty period.

support.apple.com

If you've been using this phone for 6-8 years daily it's gonna have wear and tear. No consumer electronic will last forever and they can develop faults as materials degrade over time.

Apple says parts and service can be obtained for 5-7 years, with batteries up to 10. Which is why i suggest looking at getting a battery replacement, or taking it to a third party repair shop to see if they can find anything else to fix in the circuitry.

1.46% - that's way more than I thought - and would equate to around 20 million iphone SE1s currently in use (a bit more than '100' mentioned by another user on this forum...)

It's all apps, not only 3rd party. Both phones are >95% battery health as they have been replaced multiple times since 2016.
I first thought a possible hardware issue, until I realised they had both started having the same problem simultaneously.
Just to clarify, I'm not expecting this device to be supported forever, I'm simply trying to get to the bottom of why all mine are simultaneously going wrong.

 

[dan98]

I have an SE and 7 Plus on the latest version of iOS 15 and haven’t had an issue with notifications

This is good to hear - although can I ask are you using the SE on a daily / very regular basis?

 

[dan98]

As for the laugh reaction I left before replying, sorry about that. It came off as derisive. While I don’t think they’re sabotaging old phones, it’s not THAT far fetched of a theory.

Oh it's fine. The default response of fanboys is to laugh off any suggestion of Apple manipulating their devices, so I'm grateful of your suggestions.
It's a pity that a semi-untethered jailbreak probably wouldn't work for me as I travel a lot. I'm still digging into the details though.

 

[WB2Colorado]

This is good to hear - although can I ask are you using the SE on a daily / very regular basis?

I use the 7 Plus more than the SE but I haven’t noticed any notifications not coming through. I would like to think if there was a bug with notifications on 15.8.2 it wouldn’t just affect one device