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Literature
[edit]- Sea Switch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NBOOK. Skipping PROD due to article length. -1ctinus📝🗨 16:32, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:06, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The only independent coverage I could find is from "The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum", a non-notable website. Almost certainly fails NBOOK. Astaire (talk) 21:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Linda Joy Singleton#Strange Encounters (with the history preserved under the redirect), where this book is already mentioned, per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. I did not find significant coverage about the book in my searches for sources.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 11:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Dialogue in writing (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
This article is basically a textbook entry providing tips on writing dialogue for fiction. I believe it violates Wikipedia's "Not a Textbook" guideline. [1]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bull Goose Loony (talk • contribs) 18:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – This is as valid a concept as any of the other articles listed at Dialogue (disambiguation).—Anita5192 (talk) 01:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - The article was butchered in the past, instead of adding refs. even referenced pieces were deleted. Because it looked like "how-to". But there are quite a few encyclopedic issues lost, such as "purpose of dialogue" (in writing), which are readily found in books, e.g., here or here, etc.. - Altenmann >talk 04:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. As it stands the information in this article is mainly trivial and obvious, but if it can be improved along the lines implied by Altenmann then why not keep it? There are numerous points that are not discussed, of which here are two: in a longish dialogue between two people how often do readers need to be reminded which one applies to a given comment? There is no mention of punctuation. Athel cb (talk) 08:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong keep I understand why the article might seem trivial, but I don’t see why it worth deletion. WP:SIGNIFICANT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vorann Gencov (talk • contribs) 15:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The article was much better in 2007: Special:Permalink/124811521 but it was girdled by WP:V and WP:NOTHOWTO concerns. I also think User:Anita5192's new Dialogue in writing § Punctuation section might be a partial duplicate of English punctuation, and should be merged. 174.92.25.207 (talk) 12:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Paul Jessup (writer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this article about a writer of speculative fiction. I have found and added one reference, but it is either an interview or an article by a friend (named author who introduces the article, but the bulk of it is by Jessup). The article already references the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, which I think is a reliable source, but as the only reference which demonstrates notability I don't think it's fully evidenced. The article only needs a couple of reviews from reliable sources to meet WP:NAUTHOR, but I haven't been able to find any. Unless anyone else can, I don't think the article meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, or WP:NAUTHOR. Tacyarg (talk) 20:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Science fiction and fantasy, Literature, and United States of America. Tacyarg (talk) 20:31, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- weak keep: Two book reviews [2] and [3], there might be more. Oaktree b (talk) 21:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I've added the PW review to the article. Haven't added the other as it is just one sentence. Tacyarg (talk) 22:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just one sentence? Try [4] Geschichte (talk) 22:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've added that to the article. Tacyarg (talk) 22:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just one sentence? Try [4] Geschichte (talk) 22:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I've added the PW review to the article. Haven't added the other as it is just one sentence. Tacyarg (talk) 22:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Withdraw (as nom) - two reviews found by Oaktree b, article meets WP:NAUTHOR. Tacyarg (talk) 22:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- We still need at least some material to source the biographical stuff. Or, it could just be removed.
- I found more reviews, including another one in PW and one in The Future Fire [5] Here is a shorter one in Reactor (magazine). The next one is from Wired, but is primary, starting off with "My friend Paul Jessup": [6] Had you heard about Werewolf News? Me neither. (Blog, not reliable.) Geschichte (talk) 03:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment For the record, one of the above-cited reviews is a Kirkus Indie review, which does not count towards notability per WP:KIRKUS. On the other hand, The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, mentioned in the nomination, is most certainly a reliable source. TompaDompa (talk) 02:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep In addition to the earlier mentioned reviews, Publishers Weekly reviewed more of his novels (link 1 and 2) while I also found other reviews out there (link 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5) along with the previously mentioned short interview in Wired and this article in the Washington Post. Overall, there are enough reviews and press coverage to meet our notability guidelines.--SouthernNights (talk) 12:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- The Life and Religion of Mohammed (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NOTBOOK. I can find no sources on the book or the author of the book, other than catalogue or sales listings. Article has been tagged for notability since 2012. Johnj1995 (talk) 04:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. There are 5 articles mentioning the book in ProQuest, but only brief mentions. None feature the book as their primary topic. Astaire (talk) 21:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Success and Failure Based on Reason and Reality (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Self published book by an author who has paid many editors for his and its inclusion in Wikipedia. Fails WP:NBOOK, this is WP:ADMASQ and part of a walled garden of self promotion. See also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Izaaqnewton. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:24, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Finance. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Not eligible for Soft Deletion. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:14, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete : no coverage and fails WP:42. Not to mention what is mentioned in the nom which may require WP:SALT ..FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:36, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Refer to: Don't cite WP42 at AfD and Checkout 1, 2,3 and 4 among others
- 217.165.5.17 (talk) 04:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)— 217.165.5.17 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep. To start with, this is a self-promotional article about a self-promotional self-published book and should be rewritten to address this tone. But WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP, and this book passes criterion 4 of WP:NBOOK, which states "The book is, or has been, the subject of instruction at two or more schools,[6] colleges, universities or post-graduate programs in any particular country.[7]." According to reliable sources (the Monitor, a legitimate and reliable Ugandan news outlet, plus PML Daily), Uganda's government agency overseeing curriculum adopted the book as part of its secondary school curriculum and thus made it a "subject of instruction." And according to NBOOK, satisfying one of these criteria overcomes concerns about self-publication. (While criterion 4 is dispositive, I also think we need to be careful about overturning a prior "Keep" AfD decision without a clear statement from the nominator about why that discussion was flawed.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep without abandoning WP:BEFORE, this book has significant press coverage, an award, and is on a national curriculum, where there is promotion, I recommend cleanup. Regarding Paid Edits, there are necessary Disclosures on the talk page already.
- Comment This article was already nominated for deletion before in 2020 and the result was Keep. The very nominator here was part of the discussion contributors. I have also established that it is the very nominator who actually started the Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Izaaqnewton. and he has a rare special biased/negative interest against the project, the author as he keeps reffereing to that everytime he wants something bad to be done to the (or revert/delete) authors wikipedia works. He appears to smartly resist any updates to the author and his global contributions, potentially aiming to frustrate other contributors, by labeling every editor of this author as engaging in undisclosed paid editing (UPE) disregarding the fact that all contributions are collaborative efforts.
- The nominator acts as if he owns Wikipedia content through determining what should be written and not written about him or according to his wish, he's hence abusing and misusing; in guise, several Wiki policies and contradicting the principles outlined in Wikipedia's Ownership of content policy (WP:OWN). I am therefore convinced and I believe beyond reasonable doubt that this nomination was selfishly made in bad faith against the Wikipedia foundation Mission, Purpose and Terms of Use including Wikipedia:Assume good faith and deliberately violating Wikipedia's Neutral point of view (WP:NPOV) and Verifiability (WP:V) policies 217.165.5.17 (talk) 00:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)— 217.165.5.17 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep in accordance with the available reliable sources (WP:RS) and the criteria outlined in Book Sources (WP:BOOKCRIT#1), as the references meet the required standards for accuracy, credibility, and editorial quality.2A00:F28:486:3B8:2863:3750:DBB2:7C3F (talk) 02:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)— 2A00:F28:486:3B8:2863:3750:DBB2:7C3F (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep The Article Already passed an AFD with a "Keep" Result implying community consensus for its notability. Since then, no paid editors have contributed; all edits have been from independent editors part of whom contributed to the Article's first ADF consensus. The Edit history show the article having been improved by experienced and non conflicted editors ensuring compliance with Wikioedia's standards. The WP:ADMASQ claim is unfounded based on the current content.The nominator's motivations should not influence the deletion discussion.5.31.71.51 (talk) 13:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)— 5.31.71.51 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Comment. I stand by my keep !vote above on policy grounds but I think the flurry of IP SPAs who showed up need to be disregarded. Would love to see more perspectives from some uninvolved regulars at AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep. I'm unsure if Uganda has the same paid for media coverage problems as India and Nigeria, so evaluating the sources is kind of difficult here as I am not familiar with many of the publications. IMO, the schooling thing mentioned above helps it be pushed over to keep, and most of the sources look okay for notability - though some appear unduly promotional and perhaps tied to the author. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Basing on the fact that was adopted by the Ugandan Ministry of Education through its NCDC and recommended for use in Secondary and higher institutions of Learning, It got an award though this is only talked about in Uganda, I find many substantial postive reviews on Amazon and I find many references linking to several libraries for schools and Universities in Uganda.102.85.51.233 (talk) 20:45, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — 102.85.51.233 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, first, Amazon reviews are not important, secondly, I'd like to hear from some of our AFD regulars instead of new IP editors.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Hamis Kiggundu: Coverage I can find is only about the individual, nothing about his book. I'd redirect or merge a few lines into his article there. Oaktree b (talk) 15:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The book should be retained due to its significant educational impact and recognition. The book has been independently reviewed and praised for its valuable insights on success and the importance of having a sense of purpose, as detailed in Eagle. Additionally, it has been recognized in Ugandan media, with Bukedde highlighting its influence. Moreover, the book won the "Business Book of the Year" award, as reported by Newslex Point. This recognition and its adoption by the National Curriculum Development Centre (NCDC) for secondary school curriculum demonstrate its educational value and relevance, satisfying the requirements of WP:NBOOK. -- Macholi (talk) 14:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)