SandyGeorgia
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My will to participate in Wikipedia has waned due to the harassment it brings, both on and off Wikipedia, with real consequences to living persons and their families. I am following only those articles I have contributed to extensively, and issues or content areas where bullies predominate. I receive pings by email only; I may continue to occasionally check my watchlist and email, but please don't count on me to regularly respond to queries or to keep up with the work I once did.
In appreciation
edit| The Winnowing Fan Barnstar | ||
| For your decades-long effort to separate the grain from the chaff. Best wishes, ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC) |
Hi! I recently created the article about Venezuelan physician Belkisyole Alarcón de Noya, I thought you could be interested in taking a look at it. Kind regards :) NoonIcarus (talk) 00:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Fixed quote citations
editThanks for the message - I've fixed those citations, and thanks for explaining what it was that I missed. Apologies if this isn't the right way to send someone a message, despite using and editing a lot, I don't know how to chat/message. Montezuma69 (talk) 01:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thx, Montezuma69; there is a problem with my internet provider (in my entire neighborhood), so my connection is spotty, and I'm not able to work. Could you also doublecheck the duplication on the Argentina text? I think it was already there and you added it again ... and you messaged just fine! Prefieres castellano? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- English is good, my Spanish isn't great - enough to read newspapers, and fluent french helps.
- It's all sorted - my mistake, I had used the Milei quote, as had someone else independently and I forgot to delete it.
- Are you looking after this article? I am about to go to bed, but intend to look out for updates tomorrow, as to what happens next with the election, and who says what next, Montezuma69 (talk) 02:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I will be looking in as I can, but my internet provider is a mess in my whole neighborhood ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Political interference in Venezuelan election
editThe election in Venezuela is in dispute and unconfirmed. It should be illegal for you to spread disinformation, remove your perjury from this website or we will petition to have you removed. You are disseminating propaganda and conveying false semiotics that are clearly and flagrantly political interference. You will never maintain the energy to defend it. 50.117.139.153 (talk) 07:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- At ANI: [1] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
You must be tired and a little fed up. I wanted to thank you for the work you are doing on the above subject. I'm not familiar enough with it to help out but you're doing a great job, Knitsey (talk) 16:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, Knitsey; I'm not fed up just yet, although I am extremely frustrated by intermittent internet outages preventing me from working efficiently -- there are two trucks in my neighborhood, trying to fix a big problem with two hubs, and they say it could be a few days. I do appreciate the kind words!! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I hope it's fixed soon. Keep up the good work. Knitsey (talk) 16:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Catching up...
editJust a quick note that I've got a lot of pings (all from you?) to catch up with. Not complaining, just noting. :) Boud (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know, and sorry about the edit summary pings ... with the internet connectivy mess I'm having (darn company says they have to replace two hubs in my neighborhood), it's the easiest way for me to get your attention :) Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is OR, so only justified on a user talk page: for a big random bunch of the actas, I get about 91% automatic confirmations of exact agreement with the vote counts listed in RESULTADOS_2024_CSV_V1.csv. The other 9% are the lowest quality scans (e.g. the QR code has spiky bits and in the human-readable section, a 5 looks like a 6) - resultadosconvzla.com either have better software or did the remaining few percent by human eye+brain + typing the numbers and adding them. There's an AP article floating around somewhere where AP claims 96% automatic confirmation. No sign of any error at all in the resultadosconvzla.com numbers compared to the actas. Boud (talk) 01:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Boud ... I think that's the ref name=APReview source ? When I was much younger, I lived and worked in Venezuela (and throughout Latin America) for many years, and this is "not their first rodeo"; bright Venezuelans saw what the Carter Center did in 2004 and know how the vote has always been manipulated. You can be sure that there were brainiacs at work on the organization and the data gathering to have the evidence we saw within days of 28 July, which is also in the sources I've added ... but so much of what is written in sources is in Spanish, so readers may be missing it, and I just haven't had enough time to expand (so I'm glad when Wilfredor stops by and drops in a big chunk!). I am unsurprised that you found no errors. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I just came to complain that I don't get many pings from Sandy!. I can confirm what Sandy mentioned. The discrepancies in the records are likely due to the corrupt system within the CNE, not actual fraud in the records. The electoral distribution, polling station assignments, and organization according to population districts, including deceased persons, all favor the regime. Additionally, factors like psychological pressure on public employees and manipulation of voting machines with assisted voting contribute to this. Plus, 8 million Venezuelans who left the country would likely vote against the regime. This issue has highlighted the regime's problems and exposed support from other governments, including Lula, AMLO, and Petro, as well as expected support from Nicaragua and Cuba. Wilfredor (talk) 02:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hola, Wilfredor! Since the arbcase, I've avoided pinging Venezuelan editors to discussions, out of respect for the human rights concerns. This time, I got to ping you because of your contribution to the article. I hope you're well, and am always happy to see you. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- You can ping me a thousand times a day, you won't be annoying or anything. Wilfredor (talk) 22:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hola, Wilfredor! Since the arbcase, I've avoided pinging Venezuelan editors to discussions, out of respect for the human rights concerns. This time, I got to ping you because of your contribution to the article. I hope you're well, and am always happy to see you. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I just came to complain that I don't get many pings from Sandy!. I can confirm what Sandy mentioned. The discrepancies in the records are likely due to the corrupt system within the CNE, not actual fraud in the records. The electoral distribution, polling station assignments, and organization according to population districts, including deceased persons, all favor the regime. Additionally, factors like psychological pressure on public employees and manipulation of voting machines with assisted voting contribute to this. Plus, 8 million Venezuelans who left the country would likely vote against the regime. This issue has highlighted the regime's problems and exposed support from other governments, including Lula, AMLO, and Petro, as well as expected support from Nicaragua and Cuba. Wilfredor (talk) 02:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Boud ... I think that's the ref name=APReview source ? When I was much younger, I lived and worked in Venezuela (and throughout Latin America) for many years, and this is "not their first rodeo"; bright Venezuelans saw what the Carter Center did in 2004 and know how the vote has always been manipulated. You can be sure that there were brainiacs at work on the organization and the data gathering to have the evidence we saw within days of 28 July, which is also in the sources I've added ... but so much of what is written in sources is in Spanish, so readers may be missing it, and I just haven't had enough time to expand (so I'm glad when Wilfredor stops by and drops in a big chunk!). I am unsurprised that you found no errors. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is OR, so only justified on a user talk page: for a big random bunch of the actas, I get about 91% automatic confirmations of exact agreement with the vote counts listed in RESULTADOS_2024_CSV_V1.csv. The other 9% are the lowest quality scans (e.g. the QR code has spiky bits and in the human-readable section, a 5 looks like a 6) - resultadosconvzla.com either have better software or did the remaining few percent by human eye+brain + typing the numbers and adding them. There's an AP article floating around somewhere where AP claims 96% automatic confirmation. No sign of any error at all in the resultadosconvzla.com numbers compared to the actas. Boud (talk) 01:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Cite Q and CITEVAR
editBoud sorry for missing that archive-url; I'll try to doublecheck more carefully going forward, and hope to avoid any further Cite Q mixups (but they sure are hard to check, since the data is stored elsewhere and not viewable in edit mode). Now that I've caught up on the issues with {{Cite Q}} (ongoing since 2017), I realize that getting into that discussion during the election debacle would create a massive distraction, so I'm just going to live with those citations. Considering that template has existed since 2017, and survived deletion only on no consensus, I'm not surprised it has apparently never shown up in a Featured article and I've never encountered it before-- now I'll live with it in the interest of moving forward on the article, even though it's creating lots of extra work for me at a time I'd rather be writing content. Your valued participation in the article makes it worthwhile to live with the extra editing I have to do around that template :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, no problem. :) As for 'not viewable in edit mode', I usually only edit individual sections, so I have to go to another tab - often doing an edit that I don't save - to check for references. What's interesting is how complementary different Wikipedians' contributions are. I've never tried to get an article to WP:FA status - I'm happy to trust the crowd on that - I'm more interested in well-sourced information getting robustly into the information cycle and being as verifiable as possible, and that includes in multiple languages. Though I do do some tidying too. Anyway, I did a new edit to my user page; I think that |id=[[:d:Q128550264]] makes sense and would be difficult for anyone to object to: the identifier is short and compact, and gives a clickable link to the "external" (from the Wikipedia point of view) URL of that source. You could try it and see if anyone objects. Boud (talk) 19:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Boud the id thing is awesome; thanks for testing it and making it work. I am home briefly between meetings, so will have to catch up later. Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:25, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Glad you like it :). Boud (talk) 21:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am glad we hit on a workaround, so we can get back to content. I've had a very busy day, and have updated nothing when I've got dozens of sources to add :( SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Glad you like it :). Boud (talk) 21:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Boud the id thing is awesome; thanks for testing it and making it work. I am home briefly between meetings, so will have to catch up later. Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:25, 5 August 2024 (UTC)