Bad Day for Darwin Haters

Darwin in WaxA wax figure of English naturalist Charles Darwin, at the age of 18, in an exhibition at the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation on Thursday in Lisbon, Portugal. (Photo: Jose Manuel Ribeiro/Reuters)

Updated | Feb. 15 As you might have already heard, like Abraham Lincoln, Charles Darwin was born on this date 200 years ago, February 12, 1809.

Celebrations of the lives of both men are taking place in many parts of the world and in many places online — including on the Science section of this very Web site, where there is an interactive look at Darwin’s writings, a collection of articles and multimedia features on evolution, an Editorial Observer column by Verlyn Klinkenborg and an Op-Ed by Olivia Judson.

Then there’s the digital edition of his complete works, the stamps, the polls, the virtual tours of the Galapagos, the service at his grave in Westminster Abbey, the biopics on YouTube, the exhibitions in London, Lisbon and Frankfurt, the unanswered questions and, of course, the awards.

But on the day that Darwin’s life and work are most celebrated, spare a thought for the haters.

There are, of course, many people who do not accept Darwin’s theory of evolution, for many different reasons, but no one is more vehement in his distaste for Charles Darwin than the Turkish author and Islamic creationist Adnan Oktar, who writes under the name Harun Yahya.

Mr. Oktar recently explained at great, great length to the Tehran Times that, in his view, Darwin, not money, is the root of all evil. According to Mr. Oktar:

Darwinism is essential for materialist philosophy and without materialism there can be no communism, fascism, imperialism, savage capitalism, nor immorality nor terror.

This is not the first time Mr. Oktar has made the claim. Last September, he also told the German magazine Spiegel that “all the members of terrorist organizations — even those that portray themselves as Muslim organizations — are Darwinists.”

As Adam Rutherford explained on The Guardian’s Comment Is Free blog, Mr. Oktar is “the author of a gargantuan tome called the Atlas of Creation, in which he tirelessly asserts that the fossil record demonstrates that all creatures were created as they are today.”

Mr. Oktar recently announced that he would pay “10 trillion Turkish lira to anyone who produces a single intermediate-form fossil demonstrating evolution.” That’s about 6 trillion dollars, which makes one think that perhaps the U.S. government should get someone on this right away, before the next round of the bank bailout gets under way.

Not surprisingly, some noted evolutionary biologists dispute Mr. Oktar’s claim that he has proven that evolution is wrong. Mr. Oktar lays out in great detail on his Web site the many ways he believes Darwin was wrong, but the special site he has set up to commemorate, or anti-commemorate, Darwin’s birth gives perhaps the clearest sense of how close to distraction he is driven by what he calls “the Darwinist deception.”

Looking at this site, you almost wish this anniversary would just hurry up an be over, for his sake.

Update: One of the evolutionary biologists who disturbs Mr. Oktar the most is Richard Dawkins. Mr. Oktar went to court to have Mr. Dawkins’ Web site blocked in Turkey. In this video of a report on Al Jazeera English, which pits Mr. Dawkins against a creationist and maintains that “DArwin’s ideas remain controversial,” Mr. Dawkins makes the kind of statements that surely drive Mr. Oktar nuts: that “naive creationists” are “just ridiculously ignorant,” and that “the beauty of Darwin’s theory of evolution is that it explains everything without god.”

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There was no imperialism before Darwin? That will surprise a great many historians.

The enemies of Darwin are the enemies of truth and science. It is unfortunate that so many of them attained prominence during the last presidential administration, and that so many have infiltrated school boards across the country. It is reminiscent of another country and leader which claimed to have the support of its church – Franco’s Spain, with its slogan of “Death to the intellect! Long live death!” from Gonzalo Queipo de Llano.

Isn’t the pakicetus (ancient whale with legs) a good enough sample of an intermediate evolutionary form? Hey, I want my trillion bucks!

Coming back to sanity, three cheers for Darwin, how amazing that both he and Lincoln were born on the same day.

And what a beautiful wax image that is, of young Darwin looking with such enchantment at a beatle. What a tasteful and compelling rendition.

This is a bizarre blog or lede, or whatever. Darwin’s theories have been overwhelmingly accepted by the scientific community, so why are we being treated to objections of Mr. Oktar, whoever he is, without bothering to offer any facts to substantiate his views. Is the Times so uncertain of itself that it is now reduced to pandering to creationist without bothering to present their arguments for rational debate? Do you call this journalism? I don’t.

George Moffatt

[George, Sorry if the post was unclear to you. I doubt Mr. Oktar will mistake this for an endorsement of his views. — RM]

“Darwinism is essential for materialist philosophy and without materialism there can be no communism, fascism, imperialism, savage capitalism, nor immorality nor terror.”

Is Oktar also willing to give a prize for those who can prove imperialism, savage capitalism, immorality, or terror existed before Darwin? Because if so I want to know how to sign up to win some money.

You’re aware, of course, that his “atlas of creation” includes, as proof of the falsity of evolution, pictures of fishing lures? Wonderfully detailed, beautiful, hand tied fishing lures, complete with hook.

Mr. Oktar should crawl his way out of the pile of organic ooze that seems to be smoothering his reason.

It’s fun to make fun of those who disbelieve Darwin’s theory in favor of believing in magic or other silly stuff, until you realize that they are actually taken seriously by our government, including educators!

Now that’s scary.

Mr. Oktar is right. Obviously, before Darwin was born, there was no immorality or terror. All evil in the world came into being once Darwin proposed his theory. My pastor and Rush Limbaugh BOTH told me this, so it must be true! It’s so nice to see Christian and Islamic creationists agreeing, for once.

Some people just don’t want to acknowledge dinosaurs, early hominids and the fossil record. For them, ignorance really is bliss.

Ironically, it’s people like Mr. Oktar who provide the best evidence AGAINST the evolution of the human species. The persistence of ignorance and stupidity is a sort of self-substantiating theory.

Progress? We don’ need no stinkin’ progress.

Mr. Oktar recently announced that he would pay “10 trillion Turkish lira to anyone who produces a single intermediate-form fossil demonstrating evolution.”

Well, it seems to me that Mr Octar is going to keep his 10 trillion lira in any denomination simply because there is no one instance of an intermediate-form fossil that could possibly demonstrate evolution. Evolution is a process of gradual change that is perceived only by studying the inherited changes that occur in a species over many, very many generations.
A good example of no evolution over a long period of time is the fact that the human penis still occurs with an intact foreskin even after persistent, long-term efforts to cut the thing off every male baby born.

“But on the day that Darwin’s life and work are most celebrated, spare a thought for the haters.”

No.

The basic truth for Intelligent Design people:

1) is there a job market for Creatiion Science majors?

2) would you want to be treated by a doctor who doesn’t believe in the foundation of biology?

3) since fossil fuels are discovered by people using techniques based on the theory of evolution, should you be allowed to use gasoline in your cars. Internal combustion engines aren’t in the Bible.

4) if God is powerful enough to create the universe in a week shouldn’t he be powerful enough to create evolution?

5) do you really want to bring the country down by your assault on science?

Regarding post #3: I don’t think Darwin is looking at a beatle. As far as I know, beatles (usually spelled with an upper-case B, BTW) didn’t exist before the 1950s. Besides, he’d have a lot of trouble holding even the lightest one (John Lennon? I’m not sure) on the back of his hand that way. (He may be looking at a beetle, though.)

…and I will give Mr. Oktar ten trillion schmechels if he proves his IQ is above 70.

Dunno.

I live in Texas, and I’ll put our Texas creationists up against Islamic creationists any day of the week. Never seen so many wingnuts in my entire life. What’s worse, they take themselves seriously.

“A good example of no evolution over a long period of time is the fact that the human penis still occurs with an intact foreskin even after persistent, long-term efforts to cut the thing off every male baby born.”

Cutting heads off never seemed to stop foetuses from growing them, either.

I think the key here is defining what “intermediate” means to this nutcase. I’m betting that whatever science comes up with will not fit his definition of intermediate.

Besides, I think that the 10,000,000,000,000 lira should be in some escrow account. Otherwise, how can I be sure I’ll get it?

What’s the account number, as they like to say in those Nigerian e-mails?

I wish I could believe that these numskulls would “evolve out” of the human gene pool. But I believe that the greater likelihood is one that Darwin would have understood and appreciated deeply: that these views will continue to exist for ever like defects in a crystal in thermodynamic equilbrium. The reason is that thermodynamics systems, like gene populations, continually keep making unfavorable excursions (defects, mutations). In this case, there may even be advantages to being a “Darwin hater” — acceptance by Rush Limbaugh and certain social groups.

I irrationally felt my laptop might be somehow infected or soiled by visiting such a crazy, ugly web site.

Happy Birthday, Charles! Rest easy knowing that your theory of natural selection leading to evolution of species is the foundation of biological science 200 years after your birth.

But, Mr. Oktar, Darwin could not have done his work without the preceding century or so of scientific inquiry and the Age of Reason. Of course the catholic church finally agreed that Gallileo had some ‘good ideas’ not too long ago, so there is hope for humanity :)

By looking at the young wax replica of Darwin, one can assume he evolved from monkeys.
All of U anti-creationists out there who wants to justify EVERYTHING with science. Lets assume for the moment that humans evolved from monkeys, then who created monkeys? and if monkeys evolved from something, then who created that “something”?
Not everything can be justified through science only! God (or any other supernatural thing you might believe in) has to come into the equation somewhere.
Answer this question. Who created this universe? it wasn’t just a “given” to start with or was it? Somebody is there that U might not believe in.
But I believe that the God Almighty exists.
So get over it you infidels and Darwinists.

Jim: Whaaaaaaa?????

Whether or not human beings and other living creatures have evolved over billions of years is an empirical question. It can be resolved by appeal to evidence. It’s might be true or, though the shade of Stephen Jay Gould strike me dead for mentioning the fact, it might be false.

Evolution as the linchpin of a materialist religious faith is another matter entirely. It is the threat to their materialist, atheistic religious faith that makes “Darwinists” denounce with such fury anyone who questions their naturalistically-revealed wisdom.

In a private conversation, a professor of mine at Yale (who shall remain nameless) identified the key issue: Evolution seems to explain very well the survival of the fittest, but not the *arrival* of the fittest.

Why point fingers only at middle eastern Islamists? More than half of all Americans do not believe in evolution. Bible thumping creationists in the USA are far more active in battling Darwin than any organized group in the Middle east or anywhere else in the world. Try mentioning Darwin at a GOP convention and you will be tarred and feathered as the second coming of Karl Marx.

[Shaun, One of the links in the post is to a poll of the U.S. showing that only a minority of Americans believe in evolution. — RM]