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Excessive citations

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I'll list in this section some of the references that I remove as part of WP:CITEKILL so that they could potentially be used for sourcing other relevant content.

More to come — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:00, 25 March 2022 (UTC) (Updated: — DaxServer (t · m · c) 11:58, 19 May 2022 (UTC))[reply]

26 July is wrong, announced as 30 July only. I mean who releases their film on a Sunday? -- Ab207 (talk) 09:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ab207 This ref [1] says Anirudh Ravichander was roped in for the song promo. Could it be added in casting or simply at the song promo sentence in design? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 08:44, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DaxServer, definitely not in the cast section, its reserved for the actual film. Many playback singers of the film have appeared in the lyrical songs, so Anirudh is not special. I'm neutral on adding in other section. -- Ab207 (talk) 09:57, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ab207 P.S. "Bheem for Ramaraju" in March 2020 is missing — DaxServer (t · m · c) 17:38, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2023 (5)

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Under Release, Theatrical: 'The High Court quashed the petition in March, observing that film did not tarnish the reputation of two revolutionaries as claimed.'

Please change 'reputation of two revolutionaries' to 'reputation of the two revolutionaries'. Amecabra (talk) 14:38, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ULPS (talk) 18:38, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page move

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Move preformed without explanation or discussion on August 9; RRR (disambiguation) had also been moved on April 2 with no explanation. However, the moove seems to have been justified based on the disproportionate pageviews of this article compared to others on the DAB page.

Pageviews for this article, its former title, RRR (disambiguation), and the next seven most popular articles at that dab page between April 3 and December 3: in decreasing order, Rayman Raving Rabbids, RRR (soundtrack), The three Rs, Red River Rivalry, Regional Ring Road, River Runs Red, and Ridge Racer Revolution. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:10, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Addressing the (mis)uses of history in RRR

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The film opens with a disclaimer that the work is entirely fictional; however, since the two leading characters are based on two central Telugu historical figures, there is a certain responsibility owed to depicting them with a degree of historical integrity. In order to address these nuanced issues, I have added a section titled '(Mis)use of History,' which delves into the complexities surrounding historical accuracy and the adequacy of disclaimers. This section aims to foster a discussion on how the film navigates the fine line between fiction and historical representation, inviting contributors to share their insights on the challenges and ethical considerations involved. I encourage fellow editors to review this section and provide feedback to ensure a balanced and informed portrayal of the historical context within the film. OwlzOfMinerva (talk) 03:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd argue that this section entirely violates WP:NOR, as it looks entirely like an original analysis/essay about historical disclaimers. The proper way to include something like this is if it is discussed in reliable sources, where then it'd probably be included in the Reception section as what those original sources thought about the film's usage of history. Plenty of fictional works go wildly off the rails of real history, the place with your own discussion to start this discussion is neither this page nor probably Wikipedia. As such, I have reverted this edit. 2607:FEA8:1E1F:EE00:C614:C5A1:E940:5260 (talk) 04:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of acclaim by filmmakers for RRR

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RRR is a unique Indian movie that has received massive acclaim globally - something that's not shared by any other movie and is inspirational for the entire Indian film ecosystem.

The section below highlights that unique achievement.

Reception of RRR by international Filmmakers

Steven Spielberg praised RRR, saying "I couldn't believe my eyes – it was like eye candy...it was extraordinary to look at and experience." Rajamouli said in response "I can almost get up from the chair and do a dance – it means a lot to me."[1]

James Cameron said that he liked RRR so much that he watched it twice and praised the screenplay, direction and music direction of the movie.[2]

Edgar Wright said that RRR was "an absolute blast" and said it was "The only film I have ever seen where the intermission card itself got a round of applause."[3]

Adam McKay publicly expressed support to RRR for the Oscar awards race.[4]

James Gunn said that about RRR that he "Totally dug it."[5]

Russo Brothers have publicly expressed their appreciation for RRR and its director SS Rajamouli . Joe Russo mentioned “I’ve seen RRR, and it’s amazing." He further mentions "What I think is so amazing about [RRR] is the emotion it evokes, combined with the spectacle."[6]

Scott Derrickson tweeted "To celebrate my birthday last night, my wife, kids and I watched @RRRMovie — what an awesomely outrageous roller coaster of a movie. Loved it" [7]

Joe Dante called RRR a brutal portrait that depicts the horrors of British colonisation and said that "I bet you’ve never seen anything quite like it" [8]

Daniel Kwan lauded the film, saying "While a lot of the blockbusters we're making in the states tend to have self aware, cheeky characters trapped in self-serious filmmaking, RRR was all heart-on-its-sleeve sincerity wrapped up in the most ridiculous over the top execution. So much to love."[9]

This section has been thoroughly cited (as can be seen from the history version of this page from 26-27 Jan 2024) with all the examples, but is continuously being removed by the user below, whom I address below to better understand the contention:

@Falimy: May I ask why are you removing this section? Is there a problem with citation? Is the acclaim by Steven Speilberg or James Cameron not considered noteworthy by you? Is there any other format that you'll prefer? Are there any other issues that you have noticed?

Kindly clearly articulate the reasons here in the Talk page so that we can understand your reason for persistently editing this section out. SaibaK (talk) 01:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jayanthkumar123: May I ask why are you removing this section? Is there a problem with citation? Is the acclaim by Steven Speilberg or James Cameron not considered noteworthy by you? Is there any other format that you'll prefer? Are there any other issues that you have noticed? SaibaK (talk) 15:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Follow the standard film article formats, there can't be no separate section titled "Reception by international filmmakers". No film article on Wikipedia has such section. You cannot add about each and every person, already the article is bigger. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 16:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a standard film article format? Kindly point to it. Wikipedia policy has no such thing.
What is presented above is a highly researched and labored section with proper citation and is highly pertinent to the wikipedia page. Discarding such notable information and accolades which is unprecedented for any Indian movie seems inappropriate. Is there any other Indian movie which can even have such a section? RRR is unique and therefore needs a separate section.
Also, kindly discuss the topic here before deleting well researched and cited work by others. SaibaK (talk) 16:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there is a standard format, I guess you are new here, that's why you might be knowing this. Sections such as production, music, plot, cast, etc. are regularly followed. Be it any bigger film, the same format is followed, there are many bigger films than this in regards of cultural impact or box office, but still the same format is followed. Please go through film articles, you will know more about them. Obviously section with good citations are allowed, but random sections with random names cannot be followed. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 05:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, you are talking consensus, other than you, did anybody else accepted to include this section in the article, the answer is "no". See here [2], what discussion you are talking about? Except you nobody discussed. So, how can you say as per discussion? Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 05:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You've not pointed to any standard format link because one doesn't exist.
The mentions included are by top filmmakers of the world such as Steven Speilberg etc. and have been covered by top publications which considered the news newsworthy and have been widely published and cited as well. Removing that is vandalism. However you're calling the well cited work vandalism and aren't following wikipedia guidelines.
If you have problem with this still, open up an RFC. SaibaK (talk) 05:56, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have opened up the issue on the dispute resolution page.
Kindly make no further deletions and wait for the dispute resolution.
Here is the link @Jayanthkumar123:
Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#RRR SaibaK (talk) 06:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
user @Jayanthkumar123 is ignoring attempts to gain a consensus and dispute resolution opened by me at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#RRR and as revision 1235976007 show, he continues to remove the well cited and notable content without waiting for the dispute resolution. SaibaK (talk) 06:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See, I have already mentioned that sections with such bluff names can't be followed Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia policy for inclusion of information is this: "Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. Wikipedia's concept of notability applies this basic standard to avoid indiscriminate inclusion of topics. Article and list topics must be notable, or "worthy of notice". link Wikipedia:Notability#:~:text=Information on Wikipedia must be,or "worthy of notice".
The content included is verifiable and notable.
The criteria you're using is invented by you and is not a wikipedia policy. Kindly follow wikipedia policy not your imagined criteria. As per wikipedia policy verifiable and notable content should be included. SaibaK (talk) 07:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Ramachandran, Naman (10 February 2023). "Steven Spielberg, S.S. Rajamouli Talk 'RRR,' 'The Fabelmans': Watch Video (EXCLUSIVE)". Variety.
  2. ^ "James Cameron praises RRR, asks SS Rajamouli if he wants to make Hollywood film". Hindustan Times. 21 January 2023.
  3. ^ "Baby Driver, Scott Pilgrim director Edgar Wright praises SS Rajamouli's RRR: An absolute blast". Hindustan Times. 14 August 2022.
  4. ^ "Don't Look Up director Adam McKay calls India's RRR snub 'a travesty', pledges support for SS Rajamouli film". The Indian Express. 22 September 2022.
  5. ^ "James Gunn expresses admiration for Jr NTR, desires to work with 'amazing and cool' RRR actor". The Economic Times. 26 April 2023.
  6. ^ "Russo Brothers say they're 'huge fans' of SS Rajamouli, call RRR 'amazing'". The Indian Express. 30 July 2022.
  7. ^ "'Doctor Strange' Director Showers Praise On 'RRR', Calls It 'Outrageous Roller Coaster Of A Movie'". Outlook India. 18 July 2022.
  8. ^ "'Gremlins' director Joe Dante praises 'RRR' for depicting 'horrors of British colonization'". The Economic Times. 20 July 2022.
  9. ^ "Everything Everywhere All at Once co-director Daniel Kwan heaps praise on SS Rajamouli's RRR: 'So much to love'". The Indian Express. 19 October 2022.
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