ADHD Therapists in Fair Oaks, CA

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Helene E Goble, MFT
Marriage & Family Therapist, MS, LMFT
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
Helping people struggling with ADHD and trauma is my passion. I see ADHD as a different way to see and learn, not necessarily a "disorder." I enjoy working with clients who are ready to find ways to increase their quality of life. Another focus of treatment is exploring unresolved trauma that impacts functioning. It's amazing how processing these events changes the way you react to stress. The difference is processing from the mid brain. Brainspotting is used to accomplish this necessary part of healing. It literally speeds up therapy. Let's talk and decide if it can help.
Helping people struggling with ADHD and trauma is my passion. I see ADHD as a different way to see and learn, not necessarily a "disorder." I enjoy working with clients who are ready to find ways to increase their quality of life. Another focus of treatment is exploring unresolved trauma that impacts functioning. It's amazing how processing these events changes the way you react to stress. The difference is processing from the mid brain. Brainspotting is used to accomplish this necessary part of healing. It literally speeds up therapy. Let's talk and decide if it can help.
(916) 472-0858 View (916) 472-0858
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Josina Grassi Moak
Psychologist, PsyD, MA
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
I am a licensed clinical psychologist who works individuals who struggle anxiety, depression, and relationship issues. I also specialize in helping people improve attention and procrastination, including those with ADHD, Autism Spectrum, and learning differences. I provide both in-person and telehealth therapy, screening evaluations, and consultation. I also provide goal-oriented coaching aimed at keeping clients motivated, organized, and focused.
I am a licensed clinical psychologist who works individuals who struggle anxiety, depression, and relationship issues. I also specialize in helping people improve attention and procrastination, including those with ADHD, Autism Spectrum, and learning differences. I provide both in-person and telehealth therapy, screening evaluations, and consultation. I also provide goal-oriented coaching aimed at keeping clients motivated, organized, and focused.
(916) 580-5130 View (916) 580-5130
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Sarah J Jeffryes
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT, PPSC
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628  (Online Only)
Not accepting new clients
I work with families who find themselves confronted with transition, grief and loss, behavioral and school challenges, anxiety, depression, and strength based support for neuro divergent (autistic, attention deficit hyperactive) children.
I believe in seeing and treating the whole child, removing the limits of labels without losing the focus of specific diagnosis and therapy in order to help translate the child’s challenges into their unique gifts. Often, challenges that surface in childhood are opportunities for growth and learning. They represent a chance for the child to find their authentic sense of self, of others, and of their place in the world. When these challenges are approached in a loving, supportive, and strength based way we can help the child grow more confidently into themselves.
I work with families who find themselves confronted with transition, grief and loss, behavioral and school challenges, anxiety, depression, and strength based support for neuro divergent (autistic, attention deficit hyperactive) children.
I believe in seeing and treating the whole child, removing the limits of labels without losing the focus of specific diagnosis and therapy in order to help translate the child’s challenges into their unique gifts. Often, challenges that surface in childhood are opportunities for growth and learning. They represent a chance for the child to find their authentic sense of self, of others, and of their place in the world. When these challenges are approached in a loving, supportive, and strength based way we can help the child grow more confidently into themselves.
(916) 299-7807 View (916) 299-7807
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Holli Jo Zandona
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
I am a Neurodiversity-Affirming Therapist and have ample experience and training with working with ADHD and Autism Spectrum Disorder.
Are you experiencing anxiety, depression or general dissatisfaction in areas of your life? Whether it's a life transition, relationship stress or time to do some personal growth, it can be difficult to embark down that path feeling overwhelmed and alone. Together, we can identify and build strengths you already possess as well as learn new skills to manage difficult thoughts and emotions which may provide relief, increased satisfaction and ability to move forward in life.
I am a Neurodiversity-Affirming Therapist and have ample experience and training with working with ADHD and Autism Spectrum Disorder.
Are you experiencing anxiety, depression or general dissatisfaction in areas of your life? Whether it's a life transition, relationship stress or time to do some personal growth, it can be difficult to embark down that path feeling overwhelmed and alone. Together, we can identify and build strengths you already possess as well as learn new skills to manage difficult thoughts and emotions which may provide relief, increased satisfaction and ability to move forward in life.
(279) 800-3709 View (279) 800-3709
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Tina Glishich
Marriage & Family Therapist, MS, LMFT
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
I provide safe, accepting, and mindful environment as well as culturally sensitive services for children, adults, and families who are experiencing difficulties with emotional stress such as anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress, behavioral issues such as ADHD, defiant, and oppositional behaviors, culture-related stress such as immigration and issues regarding identity including gender variant clients. I love helping couples and use Emotionally Focus Therapy in addition to CBT techniques.
I provide safe, accepting, and mindful environment as well as culturally sensitive services for children, adults, and families who are experiencing difficulties with emotional stress such as anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress, behavioral issues such as ADHD, defiant, and oppositional behaviors, culture-related stress such as immigration and issues regarding identity including gender variant clients. I love helping couples and use Emotionally Focus Therapy in addition to CBT techniques.
(916) 347-5794 View (916) 347-5794
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Bre Canclini
Occupational Therapist, MFT -T, ASDCS
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
Areas of Expertise: Autism(ASD),Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), Attachment challenges, Anxiety and Depression, Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Streptococcal Infections (PANDAS), Pediatric Acute-onset Neuropsychiatric Syndrome (PANS), Sensory Processing Challenges, Developmental Delay, and Trauma-informed care.
As a pediatric developmental specialist (ages 5-22), I employ a holistic, whole-body approach that integrates neuro-developmental strategies with sensory regulation techniques and lots of fun. My goal is to support all clients in achieving their full potential by addressing their physical, emotional, and sensory needs. I have been an occupational therapist for 11 + years and am a marriage family therapist trainee supervised by Carla DeRose lic. 29941.
Areas of Expertise: Autism(ASD),Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), Attachment challenges, Anxiety and Depression, Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Streptococcal Infections (PANDAS), Pediatric Acute-onset Neuropsychiatric Syndrome (PANS), Sensory Processing Challenges, Developmental Delay, and Trauma-informed care.
As a pediatric developmental specialist (ages 5-22), I employ a holistic, whole-body approach that integrates neuro-developmental strategies with sensory regulation techniques and lots of fun. My goal is to support all clients in achieving their full potential by addressing their physical, emotional, and sensory needs. I have been an occupational therapist for 11 + years and am a marriage family therapist trainee supervised by Carla DeRose lic. 29941.
(916) 836-2902 View (916) 836-2902
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Nicole Metscher
Psychologist, LMFT, PsyD
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
Not accepting new clients
I've enjoyed a variety of experiences including in-home therapy for PDD, ADHD, Addiction & Recovery, trauma, anxiety, mood disorders, and more.
I offer free email consultations before meeting with you face-to-face, because I want to ensure you are comfortable from the beginning. Although we may not have control of every experience, I believe that we inherently want a sense of belonging. It is my goal to inspire individuals by helping him/her process past and current events that may be hindering their ability to move forward. I encourage you to send an email or give my a call at any time. I promise to give you the attention and trust you deserve, because you are worth it.
I've enjoyed a variety of experiences including in-home therapy for PDD, ADHD, Addiction & Recovery, trauma, anxiety, mood disorders, and more.
I offer free email consultations before meeting with you face-to-face, because I want to ensure you are comfortable from the beginning. Although we may not have control of every experience, I believe that we inherently want a sense of belonging. It is my goal to inspire individuals by helping him/her process past and current events that may be hindering their ability to move forward. I encourage you to send an email or give my a call at any time. I promise to give you the attention and trust you deserve, because you are worth it.
(916) 678-0921 View (916) 678-0921
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David Keith Nylund
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, PhD, LCSW
Verified Verified
4 Endorsed
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
I have been a therapist for 35 years working in non-profits, managed care, and private practice. My current work is couples therapy utilizing a relationship focused, resolution based approach. I have experience in working with anxiety/depression; trauma; ADHD; eating disorders; and family therapy. I am a Social Work Professor at Sacramento State Univ. I conduct workshops nationwide/internationally. I serve as the Clinical Director of the Gender Health Center, an agency serving the transgendercommunity. I have worked with hunderds of transgender youth and their families. I teach for the Vancouver School for Narrative Therapy.
I have been a therapist for 35 years working in non-profits, managed care, and private practice. My current work is couples therapy utilizing a relationship focused, resolution based approach. I have experience in working with anxiety/depression; trauma; ADHD; eating disorders; and family therapy. I am a Social Work Professor at Sacramento State Univ. I conduct workshops nationwide/internationally. I serve as the Clinical Director of the Gender Health Center, an agency serving the transgendercommunity. I have worked with hunderds of transgender youth and their families. I teach for the Vancouver School for Narrative Therapy.
(916) 382-7565 View (916) 382-7565
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Dawn DiRaimondo
Psychologist, PsyD
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
Feeling connected and comfortable with your therapist is an essential part of treatment and healing. Using a relational approach, I try to create an environment that helps people work on deeply personal and challenging issues. My particular areas of interest and experience include grief and loss, relationships, depression, anxiety, ADHD, adolescent and parenting issues, and identity/sexuality issues. I recently published my first book on sibling loss, "Surviving Sibling Loss: The Invisible Thread that Connects Us Through Life and Death." (Available on Amazon)
Feeling connected and comfortable with your therapist is an essential part of treatment and healing. Using a relational approach, I try to create an environment that helps people work on deeply personal and challenging issues. My particular areas of interest and experience include grief and loss, relationships, depression, anxiety, ADHD, adolescent and parenting issues, and identity/sexuality issues. I recently published my first book on sibling loss, "Surviving Sibling Loss: The Invisible Thread that Connects Us Through Life and Death." (Available on Amazon)
(916) 674-2957 View (916) 674-2957
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Joshua Mcleod Crocker
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT, AAMFT, Superv, Candid
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
Former positions include: Children's Case Management, Therapist for populations: Severe Mental Illness: Schizophrenia/Biopolar, OCD, Borderline, ADD in Adults and Adolescents, PTSD.
AAMFT Approved Supervisor Candidate: Supervising LMFT and LPC Resident Counselors. (Fairfaxcounseling.org) Specializing in Couples Counseling and youth/young adults, my commitment is to provide a non-judgmental atmosphere where we face hard issues to grow and find more peace in your life. Leaving shame at the door, we dig into what is keeping you "stuck" and find practical tools to move forward. The therapist-client relationship gives one freedom, maybe beyond any other setting, to be fully open, honest and press forward to the best version of yourself.
Former positions include: Children's Case Management, Therapist for populations: Severe Mental Illness: Schizophrenia/Biopolar, OCD, Borderline, ADD in Adults and Adolescents, PTSD.
AAMFT Approved Supervisor Candidate: Supervising LMFT and LPC Resident Counselors. (Fairfaxcounseling.org) Specializing in Couples Counseling and youth/young adults, my commitment is to provide a non-judgmental atmosphere where we face hard issues to grow and find more peace in your life. Leaving shame at the door, we dig into what is keeping you "stuck" and find practical tools to move forward. The therapist-client relationship gives one freedom, maybe beyond any other setting, to be fully open, honest and press forward to the best version of yourself.
(571) 487-7122 View (571) 487-7122
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Elena von Gortler, LMFT
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
Not accepting new clients
Working closely with each client, I teach coping skills to add to manage symptoms of trauma, anxiety, stress, depression, grief, relational & identity issues, etc.
PTSD> EMDR>Trauma> Anxiety >Depression> Grief> LGBTQ> Identity Issues> Women> Adults> Older Adults> Teens> Spanish Speakers> Parenting> Sliding Scale Options. These are just some of the clients and therapeutic themes that I am passionate about in my work as a therapist. Therapy is available so that you don't have to meet those challenges alone. Contact me to schedule a free 15 minute consultation to see if my practice is the right fit for you! Office located in Folsom, California.
Working closely with each client, I teach coping skills to add to manage symptoms of trauma, anxiety, stress, depression, grief, relational & identity issues, etc.
PTSD> EMDR>Trauma> Anxiety >Depression> Grief> LGBTQ> Identity Issues> Women> Adults> Older Adults> Teens> Spanish Speakers> Parenting> Sliding Scale Options. These are just some of the clients and therapeutic themes that I am passionate about in my work as a therapist. Therapy is available so that you don't have to meet those challenges alone. Contact me to schedule a free 15 minute consultation to see if my practice is the right fit for you! Office located in Folsom, California.
(916) 602-4379 View (916) 602-4379
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Cynthia K Osborn
Psychologist, LEP, PPS, ABSNP
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
My personal belief is that all children can achieve and be successful in the school setting provided they have the necessary support and modifications to meet their individual cognitive, environment, and behavioral needs. I believe in individualized, cross-battery assessment, with a School Neuropsychological perspective. Specializing in the identification of Dyslexia.
My personal belief is that all children can achieve and be successful in the school setting provided they have the necessary support and modifications to meet their individual cognitive, environment, and behavioral needs. I believe in individualized, cross-battery assessment, with a School Neuropsychological perspective. Specializing in the identification of Dyslexia.
(916) 458-4142 View (916) 458-4142
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Samantha Heim
Pre-Licensed Professional, ACSW
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628  (Online Only)
Are you overwhelmed by the stresses of life that are coming at you from every angle? Perhaps work stress, challenging relationships, anxiety that’s keeping you up at night, or difficulty focusing. You know that the life you want requires change, but you don’t know where to start. I truly believe that everyone deserves the opportunity to thrive and find happiness. With the right support, you can understand the roots of anxiety, trauma, chronic pain and depression and develop effective tools to manage them. Together, we can discover what wellness and a fulfilling life look like for you.
Are you overwhelmed by the stresses of life that are coming at you from every angle? Perhaps work stress, challenging relationships, anxiety that’s keeping you up at night, or difficulty focusing. You know that the life you want requires change, but you don’t know where to start. I truly believe that everyone deserves the opportunity to thrive and find happiness. With the right support, you can understand the roots of anxiety, trauma, chronic pain and depression and develop effective tools to manage them. Together, we can discover what wellness and a fulfilling life look like for you.
(916) 656-0087 View (916) 656-0087
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Andrea Bruce
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
I provide psychological services to individuals experiencing difficulties with: anxiety, depression, AD/HD, high functioning Autism, trauma, PTSD/C-PTSD, grief, and relationship difficulties. Additionally, I provide supportive integrative health coaching (as a part of psychological services), for those who experience chronic physical conditions that can interrupt or impact quality of life (ie: pain, autoimmune disorders, diabetes, etc).
I provide psychological services to individuals experiencing difficulties with: anxiety, depression, AD/HD, high functioning Autism, trauma, PTSD/C-PTSD, grief, and relationship difficulties. Additionally, I provide supportive integrative health coaching (as a part of psychological services), for those who experience chronic physical conditions that can interrupt or impact quality of life (ie: pain, autoimmune disorders, diabetes, etc).
(916) 347-4234 View (916) 347-4234
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Stephanie Boggs-Stewart
Marriage & Family Therapist Associate, MA, AMFT
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
You feel a bit worn down, overwhelmed, burnt out, maybe even hopeless that you will ever feel “ok” again. Life feels overwhelming and you keep hoping you will "get it together" and when you don't you feel like a failure. You have an idea of how it will be better in life or your relationships, but you're just not sure how to get there. You're ready now to feel better, to feel more grounded, confident, relaxed and at peace and have the relationships and connections you desire. Life can become easier with help. If you identify with being neurodiverse or in a relationship with someone who is, I can help with that too.
You feel a bit worn down, overwhelmed, burnt out, maybe even hopeless that you will ever feel “ok” again. Life feels overwhelming and you keep hoping you will "get it together" and when you don't you feel like a failure. You have an idea of how it will be better in life or your relationships, but you're just not sure how to get there. You're ready now to feel better, to feel more grounded, confident, relaxed and at peace and have the relationships and connections you desire. Life can become easier with help. If you identify with being neurodiverse or in a relationship with someone who is, I can help with that too.
(916) 665-0491 View (916) 665-0491
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Limor Watson
Psychologist, PsyD
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
Dr. Limor Watson is a Psychologist in Carolina with more than 10 years of experience counseling diverse populations in community clinics, alternative high schools, and the California State Prison System. Dr. Watson’s theoretical approach is holistic and views mental and emotional issues as they intersect with socio-cultural factors and backgrounds. Outside of work, Dr. Watson enjoys trail running, watching movies, and attending music concerts.
Dr. Limor Watson is a Psychologist in Carolina with more than 10 years of experience counseling diverse populations in community clinics, alternative high schools, and the California State Prison System. Dr. Watson’s theoretical approach is holistic and views mental and emotional issues as they intersect with socio-cultural factors and backgrounds. Outside of work, Dr. Watson enjoys trail running, watching movies, and attending music concerts.
(916) 237-9348 View (916) 237-9348
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Katlin Boas
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
Katlin Boas is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California who has been practicing since 2020. Katlin can provide the intervention of Brain spotting (BSP). She uses a strengthbased model for clients to help build purpose and meaning. She feels she uniquely integrates mind, body, and soul (faith) into treatment (if this is desired by the client).
Katlin Boas is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California who has been practicing since 2020. Katlin can provide the intervention of Brain spotting (BSP). She uses a strengthbased model for clients to help build purpose and meaning. She feels she uniquely integrates mind, body, and soul (faith) into treatment (if this is desired by the client).
(916) 702-7866 View (916) 702-7866
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Jason Cantrill
Marriage & Family Therapist, MS, LMFT
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
Not accepting new clients
Okay, so if you're reading this it's probably because something in your life isn't working right or is causing problems. Maybe you're looking for solutions to problems that haven't improved with your past efforts. You may be struggling to adjust to a major life event. Perhaps you're looking for relief from feeling overwhelmed by the demands of work or relationships. You may be looking for relief from emotional pain that time has not healed. Maybe you are just looking for ways to feel happier, more fulfilled, or more effective.
Okay, so if you're reading this it's probably because something in your life isn't working right or is causing problems. Maybe you're looking for solutions to problems that haven't improved with your past efforts. You may be struggling to adjust to a major life event. Perhaps you're looking for relief from feeling overwhelmed by the demands of work or relationships. You may be looking for relief from emotional pain that time has not healed. Maybe you are just looking for ways to feel happier, more fulfilled, or more effective.
(916) 502-8408 View (916) 502-8408
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Janet Greenwood
Marriage & Family Therapist, PhD, RN, MFT
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
I specialize in working with couples wanting to recover from a crisis. I offer over 30 years experience as a Certified Imago Relationship Therapist, PhD, RN, Licensed marriage therapist. You can select either our 10 Hour Couples Program or the 5 hour private Intensive Couples Session. Prevent unnecessary divorce; change begins the first session. Increase emotional and physical intimacy and fall back in love with your partner.
I specialize in working with couples wanting to recover from a crisis. I offer over 30 years experience as a Certified Imago Relationship Therapist, PhD, RN, Licensed marriage therapist. You can select either our 10 Hour Couples Program or the 5 hour private Intensive Couples Session. Prevent unnecessary divorce; change begins the first session. Increase emotional and physical intimacy and fall back in love with your partner.
(916) 546-1518 View (916) 546-1518
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Carmelina Mule'
Psychologist, PsyD, MSW
Verified Verified
Fair Oaks, CA 95628
I work with adolescents, families and adults struggling with a variety of emotional, psychological and behavioral issues. I provide both therapy and assessment in my practice. I focus on symptom management and reduction, coping skills, emotion regulation, distress tolerance, mindfulness, healthy living practices, and interpersonal relationships/effectiveness. I use different approaches to help clients work through individual and interpersonal difficulties and believe strongly in the concepts of self determination and self actualization. I also provide divorce mediation services.
I work with adolescents, families and adults struggling with a variety of emotional, psychological and behavioral issues. I provide both therapy and assessment in my practice. I focus on symptom management and reduction, coping skills, emotion regulation, distress tolerance, mindfulness, healthy living practices, and interpersonal relationships/effectiveness. I use different approaches to help clients work through individual and interpersonal difficulties and believe strongly in the concepts of self determination and self actualization. I also provide divorce mediation services.
(916) 287-8926 View (916) 287-8926
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ADHD Therapists

When should I seek treatment for ADHD?

You should seek treatment for ADHD if you consistently have difficulty with attention, hyperactivity, or impulsivity that interferes with your daily life. Symptoms of ADHD include the inability to sustain attention during tasks, difficulty organizing tasks and activities, being easily distracted, frequent fidgeting or squirming, and talking or interrupting excessively. If these symptoms interfere with your career, academics, or relationships—for example, consistently failing to complete professional projects on time—you should seek an evaluation for ADHD.

How does treatment for ADHD work?

Effective treatment for ADHD often consists of medication, behavioral therapy, and lifestyle changes. Stimulant medications such as Adderall and Ritalin work by altering levels of neurotransmitters in the brain; higher levels of dopamine and norepinephrine are known to improve attention and focus. Therapy works by helping people with ADHD understand the condition, discuss their areas of difficulty, and develop behavioral strategies to manage their symptoms. In some cases, modifying one’s diet and exercise can also help improve symptoms.

Are there specific medications for ADHD?

Medications to treat ADHD are generally stimulants, the most common are Adderall and Ritalin. There are two categories of stimulants: Amphetamines include Adderall, Dyanavel, Vyvanse, and Dexedrine, and methylphenidates include Ritalin, Concerta, Daytrana, Focalin, Quillichew, Quillivant, and Metadate. Non-stimulants and antidepressants may be used as an alternative if stimulants aren’t effective or viable for a particular patient.

How long does treatment for ADHD take?

It’s tough to give an exact time frame because everyone varies. In terms of medications, stimulants begin to work very soon after you take them, generally within the hour. It may take time to identify the right medication and dosage, but the medication itself is fast-acting. In terms of therapy, it takes time to develop skills and put them into practice, but you will likely see improvements within a few weeks or months.