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Review: Teravail's New Warwick Tire

Nov 1, 2021
by Daniel Sapp  
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Teravail have been expanding their tire line over the last couple of years, bringing new designs to complement those already in their repertoire. The brand, owned by Quality Bicycle Products (QBP) now has several aggressive trail tires in the fold and the Warwick, their latest offering, launches today.

The Warwick is designed to be what Teravail call an "aggressive trail tire" fitting the role of everything from trail riding all the way up to enduro racing. The tire is said to hold speed as a priority, without compromising on traction and cornering capability in loose, rocky, and steep terrain.
Warwick Details
• Sizes: 27.5" x 2.5", 29" x 2.3", 2.5"
• Speed or Grip rubber compounds
• Light & Supple, Durable, Ultra-Durable casing options
• Weight: 1,360g (29x2.5" Durable, Grip)
• Tan and Black sidewall options
• Price: $85 USD (as tested)
teravail.com

The Warwick has angular lugs with stepped front faces and a firmer rubber compound in the center to maximize rolling efficiency. On the side, there are tall, angular, and spaced-out lugs. There is an open transition area with softer rubber to provide grip in loose terrain, corners, and more technical sections of trail. The tread is somewhat aggressive for a pure XC tire, but it fits right into the aggressive XC category Teravail was aiming for.

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CASING & COMPOUND OPTIONS

There are three different casings and two different compounds for riders to choose from. As far as casings go, "Light & Supple", "Durable", and "Ultra-Durable" are the options. The Light & Supple option is, you guessed it, the most lightweight of the mix, offering. Durable is 60 TPI and has a woven nylon composite reinforcement between the outer rubber and inner casing within the sidewalls to ward off tears and cuts, along with a fine nylon weave under the tread cap to further prevent punctures. The Ultra-Durable casing takes that and adds an additional half ply of 120 TPI on the sidewall, more puncture defense in the tread cap, and butyl inserts that strengthen the sidewalls of the tire.

"Speed" or "Grip" are the compounds available. For the Light & Supple casing, the faster Speed compound is the available option there with the others available in a variety of configurations in the more robust casings. There are black and tan sidewall options available as well. The Warwick is available in 27.5" and 29" with widths of 2.5" for the 27.5" and 2.3" or 2.5" for the 29". Weight for a 29" x 2.5" Durable casing with Grip compound was 1,360g according to my scale.


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Similar yet quite different from the Assegai and Kessel
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Ultra Durable is the thickest casing option.

SETUP

A Revel Rascal was the primary testing bike with a set of tires also going to another tester to put some extra miles on them. Both were installed on Industry Nine Enduro 305 wheels, which have a 30.5mm inner width. Installing the tires was challenging and resulted in a few choice words and a mangled tire lever due to a tight fit at the bead. The set of Ultra Durable casing tires were the hardest to install, although the Durable casing tires posed a challenge as well. One they were in place, setting them up tubeless was easy and I've been running 22 psi in the front and 25psi in the back. The tires measured true to size when inflated.

PERFORMANCE

I had been impressed by Teravail's Kessel and EhLine tires they previously released so I had high expectations going into riding the Warwick. Being a little off-put by the installation challenges, I was thankful to not experience a flat over a couple of months of riding. The Warwick echoed my positive sentiments from Teravail's other treads and performed exceptionally for myself and the other tester throughout the time ridden. All testing took place in Western North Carolina.

The tires offer a good amount of grip and plenty of traction in steep, loose, and technical terrain. Transitioning from the top to the side lugs is smooth and the tire performed predictably. I was able to clean sections of trail that do sometimes pose a challenge with ease and was especially impressed by the tire's grip when climbing up janky sections of rocks and roots.

Rolling speed for the tires I was on was good, but nothing to write home about. While the tread pattern has a very similar look to the Maxxis Assegai, the Warwick tends to roll substantially faster. There's plenty of traction to go around, especially in the corners and on off-camber terrain.

DURABILITY

As far as durability goes, I haven't had any flats and I have had no issues with knobs ripping off or any premature wear after a couple of months of riding.


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Maxxis Assegai, Teravail Warwick, Teravail Kessel


HOW DO THEY COMPARE? TERAVAIL WARWICK vs MAXXIS ASSEGAI

Weight: The weight of the Durable Warwick is very close to to that of a DH-casing Assegai with a 3C MaxxGrip rubber compound - the Warwick weighs 20 grams more. However, keep in mind that Teravail also offers an Ultra Durable casing that's even heavier - these tires aren't for gram counters.

Price: The Assegai costs $90 where the Warwick, as tested, costs $85. The Ultra-Durable casing ups the price to the same level as the Assegai, but pricing for Teravail is in line with the Maxxis options.

Performance: The Warwick rolls a good bit faster and is more versatile than the Assegai for all-around trail riding, although it doesn't offer the same level of grip as Maxxis' stickiest rubber. The Assegai offers more traction at a cost of rolling speed and the Warwick offers a little less traction but rolls a little better.




Pros
+ Good traction, durable
+ Predictable handling
+ Wide range of size, casing, and compound options
Cons
- On the heavier side of the scale
- Difficult to mount
- Pricey, especially for a less well-known brand





Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesTeravail's latest tire is an excellent choice for an all-around trail tire. It doesn't win the competition when it comes to price or weight, but it performs well and has proven to hold up when it comes to durability. There are a number of options for the tire when it comes to casing and tread compound, and I like that there's a 2.3" width available for aggressive XC applications.

Setting it side by side with more well-known brands, riders may have a hard time justifying paying the same price, but I'd say the tire is on par with the best out there, and wouldn't hesitate to recommend riders give it a shot.
Daniel Sapp








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104 Comments
  • 71 16
 Less grip than a Maxxis but same price, why TF would I even consider these tires ? So many mew player coming to the tire party but such a weak marketing positioning. Either they should offer tires that are way better performance wise than the leaders at the same price, or the same performance with a decent discount. Otherwise why would consumers even consider taking the risk of buying something else than the usual tire they like ? YT and Canyon didn't become well established brands by offering the same bikes at the same price than the major brands at the time, marketing 1-0-1 people, fire your marketing team if you even have one.
  • 20 3
 If it wasn't for people looking for durable casing tan walls and ig posts, no one would buy these. Too expensive and unproven.
  • 14 33
flag ungod (Nov 1, 2021 at 11:37) (Below Threshold)
 Because almost nobody who is reading this is a strong enough rider that they can make up for the horrible rolling speed of the Assegai. Most people are much better off running a decently fast tire that has a decent grip.
  • 10 1
 @ungod: then go with a MaxxTerra version, still the same price, proven tire, done.
  • 9 0
 They are great when you pick them up 50% off because no one bought them though, I’ve had some decent tyres that way that I defo would never pay full price for
  • 7 3
 If you're a shop employee, if you can get them on cost plus through QBP, they will be really cheap. The QBP house products are very inexpensive at cost, so if retailers sell them, they make huge margin on them. The reality is you might see these well below $85 at your LBS if they choose to take a slightly lower margin on them. I don't think anyone in their right mind would pay $85.
  • 12 0
 @Balgaroth: But does the Warwick have less traction than the MaxxTerra version? Maybe it has more. We don't know because that wasn't what the comparison of the review. Maybe it actually does strike a better balance between grip and rolling resistance, THAT is why someone may buy them.
  • 2 0
 @toad321: a frequent strategy of mine too ! Buy a tire that seems like it tick the boxes at a fraction of the initial price, try it up front. If it is actually decent then good, otherwise toss it at the back and put a proper front tire. But I would never pay full retail even for the ones that are good enough to be honored as a momentarily front tire.
  • 2 1
 @SkullsRoad: That's basically why I am kinda intersted. Need to tans to be cool in the park! Already got them for the pedally trails.
  • 3 0
 @ungod: I switched to minions from my assguys and really didn't noticed a huge difference. They are slow, don't get me wrong, but it's not game changer. Also don't find them way grippier than minions either, but maybe I'm just not that sensitive, haha
  • 23 7
 Except Maxxis tires of late have been crap. 3 pairs warped out of the box, wear time is quick and honestly my new Specialized tires blow them away. Specialized are cheaper, Lighter, not warped out of the box and have better traction and quicker rolling.

Maxxis used to be my go to tires but they have gone down hill alot. My Michelin Wild enduros had way better grip also than the assegai and dhr2/aggressor combo.

I think alot of people are running them because they are OEM on most bikes. Bering the most popular does not mean the best.

People need to start trying new things so Maxxis steps up and fixes the tires they have.
  • 1 0
 @SkullsRoad: I've torn out two tan wall Terevails (Honcho and Ehline) in less than four rides each riding Midwest XC trails. They roll fast, grip, and look pretty in pictures but not durable. I'm still running a Kessel tan wall front that seems to be holding up but the consumer is definitely going to want to throw their money at something more tried and true or cheaper.
  • 5 1
 @MarkSedman: agreed the new specialized stuff is at the tip of the spear all things considered. Plus you don't have to look at that obnoxious yellow logo
  • 6 2
 @MarkSedman: Exactly. Screw Maxxis. They are hardly the end all be all. I got 3 wobbly casings before I switched to e13 and haven't looked back. These Terevails look good too. They might not be as grippy as the Assegai but they roll faster....Assegai is a grippy tire but it's a boat anchor...Choice is good and I wont touch Maxxis tires anymore with all the other good options out there.
  • 3 2
 And not even a 26" version.
  • 5 1
 @MarkSedman: Ironically these Teravails look like they're manufactured by Lion Tires, who also manufacture Specialized's tires along with Bontrager and a bunch others (Vittoria is Lion's 'in-house' brand). You can usually tell because of the finish of the tire, different 'release-agents' used in manufacturing can give different glossiness to the tire's finish... it's also that weird waxy white stuff you'll see on tires when they're inflated. Construction and rubber compounds vary from brand to brand within the same production facilities, but there is certainly some commonalities.
  • 2 0
 @MarkSedman: agreed. Too many warped Maxxis tires and they are, IMO, not the be all end all. I have found Specialized Eliminators, Kenda Hellkats and Pinners, and recently Vittoria Martellos to be better in every way. Durability, price and performance. I still love the DHRII, but they are always f*cking warped.
  • 1 0
 @toad321: S/O all the Onza Aquila DH casing tires I bought for like $40 off Merlin cycles. Maybe not a good enough tire to convince people to switch from Maxxis/Schwable, but a pretty great tire that competes just fine nonetheless
  • 3 0
 @MarkSedman: so many mentions of warped Maxxis. I thought I was alone in that, and haven't bought Maxxis for several years because of it
  • 1 0
 @MarkSedman: What type of terrain/where are you riding?
  • 1 0
 You sound like a Minion
  • 1 0
 @Marky771:
How are you liking the e13, are you using the Gen3 LG1´s?
Mo Po compound?
Grip on wet rocks and roots?
Thanks
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: I ride in the Laguna Beach area, in California. Typically ride trails like Telonics, and others that shall not be named. Loose over hard pack, so basically 0 grip. I like to ride rocky, steep and love rollers.
  • 2 0
 @mountainsofsussex: Literally every Maxxis tire I have mounted in the last 3 -4 years is warped and wobbles from new.
  • 2 0
 @MarkSedman: I could ask why you keep buying them...
  • 1 0
 @MarkSedman: Thx - completely opposite of our PNW terrain, lol. Marrying the tire to the terrain is so important.
  • 1 0
 @David9180: been spending time on the latest (gen3 ?) LG1 DH in Mopo compound at the front. Really good tire in any conditions, consistency is key with this tire. Better grip than Aquila DH/Rc45 but as consistent. Less all out grip than DHF due to the more DHR pattern of the e13 but the Mopo compound makes up for it in sketchy grip situations. Wear at the front is ok, casing is durable, rolling is not great but for a front tire it is not that problematic. Can be found on Bike24 for 35€ so I got another one for next Spring/Summer season.

As for Spe tires I have a Butcher t7 to try. Spent some time on Hillbilly Grid/Gripton but those are only working in really soft stuff, they are really vague on anything remotely hard and terrible on stones. Grip on wet stones and roots is only average too so I am not expecting much from the Butcher t7 compound for front use, probably gonna be a decent back tire.
  • 1 0
 @David9180: Gen 3 LG1 EN Mopo. I's similar to a Double Down construction but lighter than DD. Grips as good as Maxxis MaxxGrip but wears better/lasts longer. Wet rocks and roots are Mopo's specialty!
  • 1 0
 @Marky771: Thanks for your feedback, great to know that they grip just as good as maxxgrip, that´s what I was looking for.
I´m a DHR2 front and back guy, but MaxxGrip is only in EXO,DD or DH no EXO+ and 1200kg front tire is not really an option and the LG1 EN Mopo front and back look to be a good option if the grip/compound is good. And the price is much lower then Maxxis.
thanks again for your feedback.
  • 1 0
 @Balgaroth: Thanks for your feedback.
I ride DHR2 front and back and was looking for the same type of feeling and the LG1 look to be just that and with a bit more volume wich is a bonos, not to mention the price.
BIKE24 doesn't have the ENDURO in stock, but its on my Wishlist.
cheers
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex: Because its what is specced on my bikes. I rotate bikes every 6 months. So I run them down and then replace.
  • 21 0
 Can we just take a moment to appreciate how well the MTB marketing industry is working to make headlines like this possible:

"latest tread pattern is designed for everything from trail to enduro riding"
  • 20 4
 unpopular opinion....Specialized has the best tires for the $$ compared to virtually ever other manufacture and are usually in stock.
  • 11 5
 Uh no
  • 2 1
 so sue me.
  • 2 0
 They just re-did their line up recently, right? I had I think an old pair of butchers on a rental bike in Killington recently and on wet rocks and roots it was... absolutely terrifying
  • 2 0
 Used to hate Specialized tires but I really dig the new softer compounds and casing options. Hopefully they stay affordable and available thanks to all the Specialized haters who will refuse to try them
  • 1 0
 @lyzyrdskydr: I though it was a big step forward when they introduced the grid casing and gripton compounds for trails tires awhile back, especially for $60 msrp. I agree, the new casing and compounds are really good, I’ve been impressed with mine
  • 1 0
 i would agree with that statement. $40 Blk Dmd Eleminators and Butchers. end of story.
  • 2 0
 I had a Butcher and a Purgatory from a few years ago when they updated their tread compounds. The price was good and the performance was good. But out here in the PNW/Shore, they just did not have the traction that the dhr2 have.
  • 2 0
 @rrolly: I live in SW Colorado so pretty dry riding year round. I hadn't have good luck with Butchers due to under cutting but the Ground Control make a great rear trail tire and the Eliminator is a good aggressive front or rear. Ran purgatory's some (older design), good rolling speed but braking tractions was scary sometimes. If i lived in a wetter climate I prob wouldn't use specialized tires nearly as much. That said the DHR2 is one of the best tires ever, I'd put it up above the dhf
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: I've been running Butcher / Hillbilly in Blck Dmnd casings in permanently wet Scotland with good results. They ride a bit different than other softer rubber tyres perhaps. That being said, the hillbilly after about 800+ km's is still in good condition.

Another thing to add is that the sizing is very consistend / true to size and their sidewalls are grand. Customer service was pretty good too - no complaints.
Love their tyres.
  • 1 0
 Quick question: What does Specialized sell that is directly comparable to the Dissector, in terms of speed and grip?

The Dissectors on my Spur wore down way too quickly, so I'd like to try something new. I don't really want to give up any of their speed or grip, though.
  • 2 0
 @opetruzel: I guess that would be the eliminator, or maybe Ground Control (decent tyre but only tried it in flimsy casing which doesn't work for my riding)

I found the eliminator to work well on hard-er tracks, like trailcentres or just dry trails. Since most of my riding is Wet loam / roots / rocks, I prefer the more aggressive models, and Butcher 2.3R / 2.6F is a great combo as an aggressive all-rounder.
  • 2 0
 @Facepalm66: @opetruzel the Eliminator...the Ground Control is good for rolling speed but not the best for out right traction. I continue to be impressed with the Eliminator...try the T7 or T9 versions
  • 2 1
 @artistformlyknowasdan: Also something to point out is that the eliminator has decent transition knobs unlike the other models, so is a bit more forgiving for non-ideal technique or if you don't like to camber the bike as much. Other models are a bit on/off when cornering, which is an aquired taste for sure.
  • 1 0
 @artistformlyknowasdan: @Facepalm66 - good info, thank you! I may have to scoop some Eliminators to test them out on both ends.
  • 1 0
 @Facepalm66: I get that we all like the tires we own. Who wants to be "wrong," right? Have you run Maxxis dhr2's and or Assegai's on your trails? If so, how would you compare them?
I have run both Spec and Max and the Spec's are good, but on our trails the Maxxis are better performing. Having said that, I would love it if the Specialized tires were better because they're cheaper.
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: running DHR2 and Assegai on my Shore this season....sick setup when traction is a higher priority than rolling speed. I think the closest you'll get to that performance with Spec is running Eliminators front and back. Butcher isn't bad for softer conditions but where i live I'll start undercutting the side knobs within several rides due to rocky, dry, hardpack trail conditions but if your somewhere that's damp might not be a issue. You prob want to stick to T9 models for traction
  • 11 1
 This should have been compared to the Dissector, not the Assegai.

More similar in both mission and design.

Also, if it’s a super burly tire casing, I want the editor riding them to be in a place that hates tires more than NC.
  • 9 0
 Maybe I'm old, maybe I'm cheap......hell, maybe I'm old AND cheap?? But if you convert the price to $ CDN, they're about the cost of a nice lunch out less than the tires on my Ranger. I guess if you put them out there, and people pay, you laugh all the way to the bank, if they don't, well, you just drop it incrementally until they do?? But not only am I not in a position to pay that much ATM, even if I had it, I'd be looking for alternatives............Now get off my lawn!! lol
  • 12 0
 So…expensive, heavy and with less traction. Sounds like a winner.
  • 1 0
 A deal, if you consider your'e getting 3 out of three "features" at the price of the Pro's two.......
  • 8 0
 To me it's strange to hear this "The tread is somewhat aggressive for a pure XC tire, but it fits right into the aggressive XC category Teravail was aiming for." and then have it compared to an Assegai...
  • 10 0
 Pricey listed as a pro. Interesting.
  • 4 0
 Looks like pricey is a con now.
  • 6 0
 It really is very like a Dissector! Yes it has the same 3:2:3:2 central block pattern and offset side knobs as an Assegai but the knob shapes, sipes, ramps and heights are totally different - much more like the Dissector. No wonder it rolls faster but has less grip!
  • 11 7
 1,360g

At what point are we just better off running completely airless tires? With an airless tire, you wouldn't need to worry pinch flats or inserts. The sidewalls could be paper thin, merely to prevent debris from getting inside the tire. Instead of various sizes all with different casing types and compounds, you'd have one size, one compound, but various "weight ranges" of tires. Even if the tire was damaged somehow, you'd be able to ride it out - just with a "dead spot".

Even a type of hybrid tire, that you could adjust air pressure inside the cavities of "springs" for the whole tire, but would support a rider even with a huge leak - would be an improvement over obscenely heavy tires with inserts.
  • 4 0
 Rolling resistance of solid tires is garbage. It may be a PITA to spin a 3lb tire up to speed, but just imagine double or triple the energy required to KEEP it at that speed, that's what a solid tire is. And your idea of a hybrid tire that has cavities strong enough to hold say 20-30psi even if adjacent 'cells' were punctured would weigh double or triple what current pneumatic tires do, would have dramatically more rolling resistance (due to increased hysteresis losses in the additional rubber/carcass required), and would be obscenely expensive because of the manufacturing complexity. Pneumatic tires have their limitations, but the moment you start seeing completely airless tires in F1, Moto GP, Motocross etc will be the moment at which airless will make sense on more than just wheelchairs and shopping carts.
  • 1 0
 @nzandyb: in enduro moto racing, most people use run-flat foam tire inserts instead of air. They are high density foam like cushcores, except perfectly donut-shaped. Installation is as fun as it sounds... But no flats, ever, and they have a very damped/dead feel.
  • 1 0
 @ryetoast: Correct me if I'm wrong but even with the use of inserts in moto the tires are still pneumatic, and require inflation to operate optimally. I understand what you're getting at here, and it's a solution to an irritating problem but without the benefit of 60 horsepower underneath you, and understanding that there are parts on your bike which are equally likely to fail (when ridden at the limit) as a DH casing tire.... keeping in mind that a DH casing tire will be lighter and faster than anything non-pneumatic.
  • 1 0
 @nzandyb: nope, there's nothing to inflate, just a big closed cell foam donut that you wedge in there with a lot of lube and patience.

However, I also don't think its very promising for MTBs. Even if you could get the weight down to an acceptable level, I'm having a hard time imagining how they'd keep the tire on the bead--unless they were so stiff that installation was basically impossible without destroying the rims. The moto ones only feel like 10-15 psi.

But. How much money do you lose if you get a flat on what would have been a world cup winning run? It's probably worth someone looking into...
  • 5 0
 Why would anyone make (or buy) a 1300g Downcountry tire? I assume they have lighter casing in the 900-1000g range to compete with the Dissector.
  • 5 0
 Pricey from a less known brand as a pro? Geez trying to really increase bike prices.
  • 3 1
 I live in the south west (arizona) and have had the Kessels on for 8 months and can't believe I haven't ripped a hole in my rear yet. First tire I actually had long enough to wear down the tread from riding. Anyone who rides Somo understands this. I will be trying the Warwicks next for sure
  • 5 0
 Looks more like a Dissector than an Assegai
  • 5 0
 Looks like a .. Dissector?
  • 2 0
 I thought tire makers got rid of the „open box“ style knobs many years ago. Probably for good reason. The last tyre I remember having them was the maxxis Advantage and it wasn’t very good.
  • 4 1
 Teravail: "Maxxis can I copy your homework?"

Maxxis: "Sure but just change the answers a little so the teacher doesn't notice."
  • 1 0
 Have tried it if different brand tires and have always ended up back on maxxis every time. You just know what your getting with maxxis. One thing I am very surprised when I read tire tests is that most testers never talk about how they actually feel on the trail. I mean, different brands definitely have a different feel over little trail chatter, roots, rocks etc… funny testers don’t mention that much.
  • 1 0
 I´m positively suprised about Teravail gravel tyre options, so i am keen to try their mountain bike line. Their gravel tyres are easiest to install i´ve done and tyre performs great. Maybe Kessel in front and Warwick in rear. Judging thread only Warwicks large sideknobs look really good when thinking about durability. I would never use Assegai or Magick Mary in rear, they are smoked in couple of full days in park and under month in trail riding. On front, they both are amazing tyres and hold up great.
  • 4 0
 I'll stick with my $25 BFT's
  • 1 0
 BFT's for the win. Such an underrated tire for the price, just like rockhawk
  • 6 2
 This review is pretty much useless.
  • 4 0
 Pricey and difficult to mount....where do I sign up?
  • 4 0
 That's one Quality Bicycle Product you got their
  • 1 1
 I bought a used bike with Kessels on them. Have put over 500 miles on it since I bought it and they still look brand new. And the grip is light-years ahead of minions. I just bought a set for my other bike. No idea about these new ones but the Kessels are awesome and so much more durable than minions.
  • 1 1
 I live in the south west (arizona) and have had the Kessels on for 8 months and can't believe I haven't ripped a hole in my rear yet. First tire I actually had long enough to wear down the tread from riding. Anyone who rides Somo understands this. I will be trying the Warwicks next for sure
  • 1 0
 Those are hefty cons, and why not come in 20% less than the competition. Slowly raise prices over time–attributed to inflation, CovidVx, lost or waiting containers, price of soy and other fancy reasons.
  • 3 0
 Think I'll stick with my cheaper Maxxis Minion DHR2's ..... they're durable, cheaper and a better looking tire overall.
  • 1 0
 Durability: I would have preferred actual distance ridden or hours of operation along with a description of general brutality of terrains and riding style. “Couple of months” isn’t informative enough in my book.
  • 3 0
 Same same... but different... but still the same
  • 3 0
 Looks good for 35$ not 85
  • 2 4
 Apples to Oranges, but I've been running the Teravail Rutland, 29 x 2.2 Durable casing, on my Sutra LTD gravel bike. I ride anything from paved roads, gravel, and singletrack in Western NC and it's been a phenomenal tire. 600 miles in with zero flats, little tread wear, and good performance. I'd definitely be curious to see how the Warwick perform on a Transition Spur, Trek Top Fuel, ect.
  • 12 0
 1300g tires on 120mm bikes. At some point it just doesn't make sense anymore.
  • 2 0
 @sspiff: I don't disagree, but I also think there are particular riders who would push those 120mm fun-country bikes on the downs, and the extra protection would be more important than the weight. Especially if they roll fast. I for one prefer puncture protection, and weight means nothing when I'm running cush core. I do wish these were closer to $70.
  • 6 5
 Not sure why anyone would want to sacrifice grip for better rolling resistance on an enduro bike.
  • 5 1
 @tacklingdummy: Magic Mary ultrasoft lasts what, 4 days at the park on the rear? DHR2 MaxxGrip lasts a couple more if you are lucky? Both are offered in compounds that last longer, assuming you don’t rip the corner knobs off before they are done.

Announcing these for the North American market after the start of the cold and wet weather? That’s a miss.
  • 3 1
 Because Enduro segments typically have pedaling sections as well? I don't know how it is in the rest of the world, but in my area running super tacky tires on the DH might get you a few seconds, but having a fast tire on the flats means a lot more.
  • 1 0
 @ungod: Those teravails weigh quite a lot though? If you want a fast enduro tire and care more about durability and rolling resistance than outright grip, you'd maybe look at Maxxis Aggressor for your rear tire which is 200g lighter in DD casing and Dual compound.
  • 1 0
 @letsgethurt: I don't disagree, although I've had some 1100g tires that acted like they weighed half as much (WTB Breakout "Tough/Fast" tires were really fast rolling).

I mean, i'm not going to buy these, I just don't like the Assegai comparison because everyone i know who has run that tire has gone a whole lot slower.
  • 1 0
 @ungod: But look at all the pros, they are using basically dowhill-ish tires with heavy casings. They are not using lighter tires with less grip and a little better rolling resistance. Climbs are not timed and very little pedal sections on timed DH segments.
  • 2 0
 @tacklingdummy: Well yeah, and they're also pushing so many more watts than everyone else that they can make up for the rolling resistance. Not to mention going fast enough that they need the extra grip. I would definitely recommend something like the Assegai or a Wild Rock'r2 for a pro, the rest of us don't need that much grip and we can't push that slow of a tire.
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 @tacklingdummy: I think there's a big market for faster rolling/lower grip heavy-duty tires. EWS enduro tracks look very different than most American enduro tracks. Most American races I've ever done had huuuuuuge pedaling sections on flat or rolling terrain, and lots of smooth hardpacked singletrack. The EWS folks are riding roots, rocks, holes, and braking bumps all day long, and they're on off-camber half the time. Traction and damping are paramount because it's a totally different animal. The average EWS bike would be total overkill at most American races, and that's not to mention most trails in America that most average joe's ride their "Enduro" bikes at. The EWS pro setup is not a good everyday solution for most riders.
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 @ungod: Same here. I don't race, but DH tires grant me PRs only on the steepest trails. Pepper them with flat or uphill sections, and times go down the drain.
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 @ungod @TEAM-ROBOT Just my opinion, but I would say that most riders are better off with higher grip to avoid crashes. In my own experience, getting a bike around 30lbs or under with higher grip tires is a faster climbing bike than a 32-34lb rig with slightly faster rolling tires.
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 Guess I’ll have to buy a set
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 I'll be sticking with 30lbs in the minions
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 So Heavy and expensive. Thanks pinkbike for this honest review
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 It's refreshing to see some people with a sensible option about maxxis
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 Press release tomorrow then
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 On this episode of "Looks like a DHF..."
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 bro so true the maxxis minion and teravail kessel have the exact same tread pattern holy crap
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