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Review: One Year on the Liv Intrigue LT Advanced Pro 1

May 20, 2024
by Sarah Moore  
Liv introduced the Intrigue LT early in 2023, first in an aluminum version and then in the 'Advanced' carbon model that I've been riding for the past year. This is an entirely different Intrigue to the one I tested back in 2020, with the 'LT' designation calling out the 150mm of rear travel compared to the shorter travel version's 125mm of rear travel. Earlier this spring, Liv added the Intrigue X to the line, which slots into the range between the 125mm Intrigue 29 and the 150mm Intrigue LT as a 140mm travel affair.

The Intrigue LT features an integrated downtube storage compartment, has adjustable geometry thanks to the 3-position flip chip, and comes in four sizes. The extra-small and small come in a mixed-wheel configuration, while the medium and large bikes come with 29" wheels, although they are also compatible with a 27.5" rear wheel.
Liv Intrigue LT Advanced Pro 1 Details

• Wheel size: Mixed - XS, S / 29" M, L
• Carbon frame
• Travel: 150mm / 160mm fork
• 65.1° head angle (mid setting)
• 77.6° seat angle (mid setting)
• Chainstay length: 442mm
• 3-position flip-chip
• Downtube storage compartment
• Sizes: XS, S, M, L
• Price: $7,000 USD
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With the Hail no longer in the lineup, the Intrigue LT is now the most aggressive bike that Liv offers and is the same frame that Rae Morrison raced to several top-10 finishes during the 2023 Enduro World Cup season.



bigquotesI felt immediately at ease on the Intrigue LT Advanced 1. It's got a ton of traction both on the climbs and the descents and it has a predictability to its handling that made me feel like it had my back when venturing onto new trails.Sarah Moore





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Frame Details


The new Intrigue LT Advanced is the first bike in Liv's line up to get in-frame storage and uses the same system as Giant's Trance and Reign models. When you turn the latch on the downtube 90 degrees, an internal compartment that contains a water-resistant bag is revealed. The door stayed secure and didn't rattle for the duration of the test, but I didn't find the compartment as useful as it could have been had it had a larger opening. I still ran my pump alongside the water bottle cage and my windbreaker strapped to my handlebars.

I was slightly disappointed to find that you can only fit a small 21 ounce (620 mL) water bottle on the size medium frame, but at least the medium frame fits a standard sized small water bottle. While there are water bottle mounts on all frames sizes and Liv says that you can put a water bottle on the two smaller sizes, they will only fit a 13.5 ounce (400 mL) bottle.

While the shorter-travel Intrigue has a dual-position link that allows you to choose between a high or low position, the Intrigue LT Advanced has three positions. This is actually accomplished with two different flip chips – a combination high/low and a dedicated mid-position chip. The adjustment on the upper rocker arm of the rear suspension changes the head tube angle, seat tube angle and bottom bracket height. It's worth noting that the low position is not permitted for medium and large frames when set up as a mixed-wheel configuration.

I was impressed at how durable the top coat is and how good the frame continues to look after more than a year of riding and not always been treated gently. There are a couple minor chips in the clear coating when you look closely, but overall, it's very tough and the raw carbon finish looks great. There are serious rubber protectors along the downtube to keep it safe when rocks fly up from the trail or when you're shuttling and there is a thick ribbed chainstay protector to keep chainslap to a minimum.

I did wear through the rear housing cable initially since it pops out of the rear triangle very close to the chain behind the chainring. Under chainslap, the part that isn't covered by a rubber protector got frayed. Once I secured the cable in place with zip ties, it didn't happen again however. Luckily, since routing the cable through the rear triangle proved to be more challenging than it should have been since there was no tube in tube.

The frame has integrated cable ports and is compatible with Fox Live Valve. Liv uses a SRAM DUB press fit bottom bracket on the Intrigue LT and the rear triangle is compatible with SRAM's UDH. Most of the pivot bolts have the torque spec and rotation direction listed on them. The frames uses Boost hub spacing and the max tire size that fits in the frame is 2.5". The biggest chainring you can ride is a 32t.

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Geometry & Sizing

Frame sizes Small and XS are solely designed for an MX configuration with a 29" wheel up front and a 27.5" wheel in the rear. Frame sizes Medium and Large come with 29" wheels stock front and rear but can accommodate a 27.5" wheel in the rear if you choose to purchase one separately.

The geometry chart for the Intrigue LT is more complicated than most, with the three flip-chip positions making for three different head tube, seat tube and bottom bracket heights per size. In addition, Liv shared the geometry chart for the medium and large sizes in an MX configuration, which adds more numbers to the mix, although the low position isn't actually permitted for frame sizes M and L when set up as a mixed-wheel configuration due to safety standards.

I rode the size medium frame and settled on the low setting with the 29" wheels, which gave it a 64.8-degree head tube angle, a 77.3 degree seat tube angle, a 439mm reach, 1208mm wheelbase and 35mm bottom bracket drop.

Using the flip-chip will alter the angles by about 0.4 degrees in either direction and move the reach 4mm in either direction. The reach numbers vary from 398 in the Low position on the XS, up to 467mm on the Large frame in the High position.

Chainstays are the same regardless of frame size, varying from 443mm in the Low position to 440 in the High position.

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Suspension Design

The Liv Intrigue LT uses the same Maestro suspension design that Giant bikes do which uses four pivot points and two linkages that all work together to create a single floating pivot point. Maestro's upper rocker arms feature trunnion shock mounts and a high-pressure molding process is used to produce the Advanced Forge Composite upper rocker arm. Liv says it is lighter, stiffer and stronger than aluminum.

A 185x55mm Trunnion mount shock handles the 150mm of rear wheel travel and the pivot bearings are double sealed.




Specifications
Release Date 2023
Price $7000
Travel 150/160
Rear Shock Fox Float X Performance Elite 185x55
Fork Fox 36 Performance Elite, 160mm, Grip damper
Cassette SRAM GX 10x52
Crankarms SRAM GX, 30t, 55mm chainline
Chainguide MRP AMg V2 chainguide
Bottom Bracket SRAM DUB, press fit
Rear Derailleur SRAM GX Eagle
Chain SRAM GX
Shifter Pods SRAM GX Eagle
Handlebar Giant Contact SLR TR35, composite, 20mm rise, 35mm
Stem Giant Contact SL, 35mm
Grips Liv Tactal Pro Single Lock-On
Brakes SRAM G2 RSC, hydraulic, SRAM CenterLine rotors [F]200mm, [R]180mm
Hubs [F] Giant MTB alloy, 6-bolt, [R] Giant MTB alloy, 3-pawl driver, 6-bolt
Spokes Sapim
Rim Giant TRX 2 29 WheelSystem, composite, 30mm inner width
Tires [F]: Maxxis Minion DHF 29x2.5, 3C Max Terra, EXO, TR, tubeless [R]: Maxxis Dissector 27.5 (XS+S) 29 (M+L) x2.4, 3C Max Terra, EXO, TR, tubeless
Seat Liv Sylvia
Seatpost TranzX travel-adjustable dropper, remote



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The spec is pretty dialled for the $7,000 USD price tag of the Liv Intrigue Advanced Pro 1 that I rode. You get a carbon frame, wheels, bar, and a Grip 2 damper in the Fox 36 fork. The carbon parts are “house” branded, which makes it easier for Liv to accomplish this at this price tag than it is for other brands. The only house-branded component I had issues with was the hub, which started to make a racket relatively early on in testing so I swapped the rear wheel out for another wheel for the second half of the test.

Standouts for me were the narrower handlebars than are found on most unisex bikes at 760mm (XS), 760mm (S), 760mm (M), and 780mm (L). It's a small thing, but it was nice not to have to cut my bars down to my preferred 760mm. While the lever placement wasn't easy to dial in and I felt it sat a bit too far inwards because of the clamp placement, I did appreciate that the Intrigue LT has decent dropper lengths, something that Liv has struggled with in the past and when I rode the 125mm Intrigue. The TranzX travel-adjustable dropper comes in 125mm travel (XS), 120-150mm travel (S), 150mm travel (M), and 150mm travel on the size Large.

Touch points can be a personal preference, but I'm a fan of the Liv Sylvia saddle and swapped out the Liv Tactal Pro Single Lock-On grips for something with a bit more cushion.

Otherwise, a SRAM GX drivetrain, Shimano XT brakes, and Maxxis tires round out the parts package.






Test Bike Setup

I usually ride a size medium bike and the Liv Intrigue was no exception, with the medium frame being suited to rider 5'5" (164cm) to 5'9" (175m).

Dialling in the suspension and fit was relatively straightforward on the Fox Float X Performance Elite rear shock since it just has rebound and low speed compression adjustments. I varied the sag between 28-30% based on the riding location. As for the Fox 36 Performance Elite fork, it has high and low speed compression and rebound adjustments and I rode it with one token and 20% sag.

Other than swapping out the grips for something with a bit more cushion, I got straight to ride with the stock bike. I spent a fair bit of time in all three geometry settings on a variety of trails, including everything from flowy XC trails to bike park descents.

Photo by Trevor Lyden
Sarah Moore
Location: Squamish, BC
Age: 33
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 160lbs
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @smooresmoore

Testing Info
Testing took place in Squamish, British Columbia and Revelstoke, British Columbia over the course of a year. Conditions varied from dusty blown out summer riding in Revelstoke to slippery, wet days in the Squamish winter green room. The Intrigue LT was my one bike for the year I was on maternity leave and I did everything on it, including cross-country trails, alpine epics, bike park, and black diamond tech on it. The Trailforks loop shown here is one of my go-to favourites, which I did several times on the Intrigue LT.



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Climbing


The climbing position of the Intrigue LT is well balanced and it felt natural from day one. I was comfortable climbing it on a wide variety of terrain, from steep fire road climbs, to twisty single track. The seat tube angle is steep enough that, even in the low position, I didn't have to jam the saddle forward on the rails to get over the pedals and I found it easy to keep the front wheel on the ground on steeper sections of trails.

In the high position, the bike is definitely a bit more of an aggressive pedaler and gets you around tight corners a bit quicker, but even in the low position, it's easy to wind up tight corners and pedal strikes weren't common.

The bike is also relatively lightweight for its 150mm of rear travel, weighing in right around 30 pounds (13.6kg) without pedals on thanks to lots of house-branded carbon bits including its Giant TRX 2 carbon wheels. There's no two ways about it, a lightweight bike definitely makes the climbs more enjoyable. There's also a 30T chainring on this bike that, especially when you're riding the bike in its full 29er set up, is a great size for being able to stay seated and keep a quicker cadence on steeper climbs. Chainring size is a bit of a personal thing depending on whether you like to power up climbs or spin up them seated and it also depends on where you live and how much of a slog your climbs are, but I do think it is a good choice for this bike.

I didn't find the Maestro suspension to be the firmest of pedalling platforms; there's a slight bob when you push into the pedals, or the most lively, so I did find myself adding a bit more air to the rear shock, and ended up running a bit less sag (28%) to help counteract that.

The active suspension does mean that it has oodles of traction when you do get to technical climbs, and you don't get bumped off line very often. It feels like the Intrigue LT can just keep finding grip and making its way over uphill obstacles long after you think you're a goner.





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Descending


When things point downhill, the Intrigue LT hits a good middle ground between feeling fun to ride on lower angle terrain, while staying, composed when it gets pushed into steep, black diamond trails. Liv calls it their enduro race bike, and it's more than capable of racing, but it is on the lighter end of what we now see from that category. Even in my preferred low position, it isn't an all-out brute that will forgive any bad line or allow you to huck blindly into messes of roots and rocks.

That being said, it is a confident descender and it has a predictability to its handling that made me feel like it had my back when venturing onto new trails. The traction that I appreciated on the climbs was also there on the descents, and the Intrigue LT felt controlled whether I was trying to creep down sections of trail or hit loose, high-speed corners.

The Intrigue LT tolerates blue flow trails, but never felt like a rocket ship through them. The suspension really comes to life when things get rough. Even at higher speeds, the bike remained composed on chunky sections of trail. Occasionally, on larger drops, I felt like the bike went through its travel faster than I would have expected it to, but overall it was a predictable and balanced ride.

I would say that some of the spec choices felt like they were made with weight in mind and not descending prowess. While the bike's light weight made for a more nimble climber, I put beefier tires on and I would have liked bigger brakes. The EXO casing tires might be lighter, but they are squirmy and much more likely to get burped on fast corners and more puncture-prone than EXO+ tires. Other than the brakes and tires, the components held up well to a year of abuse, including several bike park days.


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Technical Report

SRAM G2 Brakes: I absolutely cooked the G2 brakes on the long descents in Revelstoke and would have next to no power left at the bottom of runs, just when my hands were most tired. I also had to change my pads more frequently than if this bike had come with Code brakes. That being said, it looks like Liv has made a spec change for 2024 and the Intrigue LT Advanced 1 now comes with Shimano XT brakes, although both models are currently still available for purchase.

TranzX Dropper Post: The lever position of the TranzX dropper is clunky and I found it a bit hard to reach, but the post itself worked very well despite zero maintenance throughout the year. It's also nice to see a 170mm travel post on Liv's medium-sized frame since that was something they struggled to fit in the past. That being said, the seat tube could be a bit shorter since my 27" inseam is the bare minimum to ride the bike with its 170mm dropper.

Liv Sylvia Saddle: Touch points are personal, but I'm pretty picky with saddles and one of the first things I usually do on a new bike is switch out the saddle. However, I didn't feel the need to swap out the Liv Sylvia saddle and found the shape of it very comfortable. It also shows no signs of wear after a year of use.




Ibis Ripmo 2
Ibis Ripmo
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How Does It Compare?

Another bike that I've spent quite a bit of time on recently is the Ibis Ripmo. Both bikes have 150mm of rear travel and a 160mm fork, but feel very different out on the trails.

If we compare the Intrigue LT in the low position to the Ripmo on paper, the two bikes have near-identical seat tube angles and head tube angles, but the Liv sports chainstays that are 8mm longer than the Ripmo and a reach that's 20mm shorter at 439mm compared to 460mm. The wheelbase on the Ripmo is slightly longer at 1219mm compared to the Intrigue's 1208mm.

While the reach numbers look very different, the Intrigue doesn't feel as short as the reach number would suggest and both climbing positions are comfortable. However, on the climbs, no one will be surprised to hear that I prefer the Ibis with its DW-link. It just feels much more responsive when you push into the pedals, despite having the same amount of rear travel. For alpine epics and climbing, there's no doubt that the Ripmo is the tool for the job.

When things point downhill, it's not as straightforward. The Ripmo is a livelier bike on the downhills as well, but I'd say that the Intrigue LT feels more capable of plowing through rough sections and requires less rider input to makes its way down the hill. On rough, high-speed trails and on bike park days, I would choose the Intrigue LT.

Lining up the spec sheets, the Ibis Ripmo XT touts Shimano XT brakes and drivetrain and a Fox 38, compared to the Liv Intrigue LT Advanced 1's SRAM GX drivetrain, GX brakes and Fox 36. Normally, the Liv Intrigue LT would take the price war by a mile, but currently the Ibis Ripmo XT is on sale for $6,524 USD ($8,699 USD regular price) with carbon wheels, while the Intrigue LT Advanced Pro 1 that I tested is on sale for a comparable $6,600 USD ($7,000 USD regular price). The version of the Intrigue LT Advanced Pro 1 that comes with Shimano XT brakes is not currently on sale and sits at $7,000 USD.


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Pros

+ Finds traction easily on the climbs and the descents
+ Composed on rough terrain
+ Lightweight build

Cons

- Not the most supportive suspension platform
- You'll need to make a couple spec changes to make it an enduro race rig
- XS/S doesn't fit a normal waterbottle



Pinkbike's Take

bigquotesThe Liv Intrigue LT is a well-rounded bike that has tons of traction whether you're heading uphill or downhill. It's not as beefy as some enduro bikes we see these days, but that keep it relatively lightweight for climbing. While it still might not be the liveliest of climbers due to its pedalling platform, the suspension really comes to life when things get rough on the downhills and with a couple of spec tweaks, it can definitely hold up to all-day enduro racing. Sarah Moore






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31 Comments
  • 34 4
 I struggle to see better bang for buck than Giant / Liv in most cases, the geo really is on point on a lot of their bikes too which adds to the appeal.
  • 8 2
 They've been crushing it with their color schemes lately, as well. I know that lends nothing to the ride quality, etc. but man, some of their paint jobs look fantastic.
  • 13 1
 @cdub96: it might not effect ride quality but if Im dropping thousands of dollars on a bike I gotta like the way it looks
  • 4 17
flag wburnes FL (May 20, 2024 at 11:25) (Below Threshold)
 Marin, Polygon, Ari, YT, Bird, Calibre, are sometimes better deals. Also State, Ozark Trail & Schwinn are some sweet budget handtails. Rockrider, Decathlon...
  • 4 16
flag dmitri6 (May 20, 2024 at 11:56) (Below Threshold)
 Not anymore, even Specialized is cheaper. Shame on you Giant!
  • 7 6
 it you buy bikes with your brain you buy Giant/Liv
  • 28 5
 @Jovian93: I buy bikes with my dick. Thats why I have an evil. Gets me hard every time I look at it.
  • 1 8
flag EikSkaloe69 FL (May 20, 2024 at 23:50) (Below Threshold)
 Am I the only one who think a reign rides like a Harley Davidson?! Not a very "funny" or lively bike.. I know two people who bought and sold a reign quite fast.
  • 11 0
 @EikSkaloe69: it's an enduro race bike, it's not designed to be lively and "poppy." Enduro bikes nowadays are basically DH bikes that don't pedal like crap. If you want something quick and lively these days, you better not get anything bigger than a trail bike. Everything above XC is designed with some level of DH performance in mind, it's not like the old days.
  • 1 0
 @EikSkaloe69: which one? The 27.5 was bit of a pig, the 29er was a reasonably light trail bike and the current one seems like a full on enduro race bike.
  • 6 0
 i am a big fan of Giant bikes and the build kits in Canada are fantastic even my 650 dollar Talon 2 came with Shimano hydros and tubeless wheels [with sealant!!] and a Shimano drivetrain. The house brand 34 fork is a beast and all 3 sets of inexpensive aluminium hoops have stayed true after 2 years of service. On an embarrassing side note... i was hit head on my a motorcycle a year ago that was going 42kph and the only broken part was the front wheel and my body but his bike was destroyed. All my Giants are aluminium as I grew to dislike the feel of carbon frames.
  • 6 0
 you can only fit a small 21 ounce (620 mL) water bottle on the size medium frame, but at least the medium frame fits a standard sized small water bottle
Confusing. I suppose it's about size S bike?
  • 7 0
 I like the long term reviews! The First Ride’s are great but it’s hard to get to know a bike on the first rides.
  • 9 2
 Believe it or not, I saw a guy on a Liv the other day.
  • 2 2
 @panthermodern nothing, its just surprising
  • 8 0
 why not, it's a great option for folks that are on the shorter end of the spectrum.
  • 2 0
 @hardtailpunter: and those looking for a decent bike weight too...
  • 4 0
 My friend put his 10-year-old son on a Liv because the sizing was right.
  • 5 0
 Buddy of mine wanted a Norco Optic at the beginning of the pandemic but they were mostly sold already. Found a women's version in his size (norco used to do women-specific variants of their bikes). He looked over the specs and the only differences were colour, grips, and maybe a 780 bar instead of 800 or something like that. So he went for it. The colour ended up being everyone's favourite thing about his bike and he'd get compliments and questions about it all the time. It looked soo good: www.norco.com/bike-archives/2020/optic-c2-womens
  • 1 0
 As long as the geo is right for his body, and he changed the saddle, I don't see a problem. Might be that for some guys the Liv bikes prove a better fit than the Giant ones. Also, maybe his girlfriend bought one, didn't like MTB (that WOULD be surprising though!), and he didn't want to sell the bike.
  • 4 0
 Thank you, really nice read! Smile
  • 4 1
 After a year on the bike I could say the full name without mistakes.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Reign
  • 4 5
 Soo, where is the data? Leverage ratio, anti-squat, anti-rise?
  • 4 0
 Yeah, I am genuinely curious what made the ibis feel much more efficient on climbs. With maestro and dw both being co-rotating twin link designs, they could have the potential to be damn near identical. On that topic, what's with pinkbike always using pics of drive side to show suspension, lol
  • 2 0
 @dwbaillar: I do think bikes these days look very similar and for that reason I am not all that interested in this particular bike. But I should not have to trust the feelings of the reviewer when there are some important parameters that will tell me so much more.
  • 1 0
 @dwbaillar: The suspensions do feel the same. The Ibis might have a design that provides a better feel. Liv/Giant tends to be a little conservative and a step or two behind in their frame designs.
  • 1 0
 Right, because you can totally tell how a bike feels just based on graphs. I forgot we are all physicists...
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