PRESS RELEASE: Commencal BikesWith its 27.5-inch wheels, long travel and completely revised geometry and kinematics, the Clash cements its place as a do-everything bike. Bike park, enduro, chilled or more technical rides... It always steps up no matter what!
For 2021, the Clash changes significantly.
The geometry has been reviewed in depth. The uphill riding position is enhanced thanks to an elongated top tube and a straighter seat tube angle. Downhill, the longer reach will bring stability when things speed up, while the short stem will ensure a maneuverable and playful bike through slower sections.
Even if it's definitely intended for riders of all shapes and sizes (from S to XL), with 27.5-inch wheels the Clash is a particularly strong option for shorter riders.
Thanks to its new kinematics, the Clash feels even more at home on the steepest freeride slopes.The icing on the cake, like its big brother the Furious, the Clash features a kinematic adjustment. This setting gives priority to either sensitivity (Sensitive) or dynamism (Dynamic). No need to make any concessions.
The Sensitive mode is intended for DH/Freeride days when you need that comfort and grip. Dynamic mode is ideal for smoother tracks or jump sessions with friends for example, when you're looking for energy and flow.
Geometry :
• The new Clash is longer: 490mm reach (size large) vs 467mm on the old Clash
• The seat angle is straighter: 77.2° vs 75.5°
• Slacker head angle 64° vs 65°
• Shorter fork offset
• Designed to allow shorter stems (30/40mm)
More linear kinematic
• More comfort / More precision
• Better ground feel and more comfortable on steeper terrain
• Adjustable two position kinematic setting: Sensitive/Dynamic
Travel
• 170mm rear
• 180mm on the front
Finish:
• The rocker construction has been completely revised to provide an excellent finish
• Easier assembly/disassembly of the contact system.
• Lower seat tube
• Improved to allow a longer travel telescopic seat post (34.9mm diameter)
• Longer maximum insertion length.
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Was originally looking at a 160/150mm bike like the remedy, but concerned about bike park usage. I think the clash is going to be my bike since most other 170/180mm bikes seem to be moving to 29. Only concern is it still seems to be kind of a heavy bike, pretty much coming in the same weight as the Commencal Supreme I used to have.
@hamncheez: Did schwalbe ever make a 27.5 big betty, or are we going to see a new iteration soon?
Taking off to clean and repack bearings.
Any ideas?
Nice looking bike though.
I wonder if they faced legal/patent challenges and have gone back to single pivot?
I whish they had the two color schemes of the Meta AM 29 also.
Freeride and 27.5" are alive !
AUD $5100 to $5500 to $6400.
2020 to 2021 the components have stayed pretty much the same.
Sure the new Rockshox fork will bump up the price, but the Spank wheels have changed from the 359 to the cheaper Race 33s (that also may not use the new Hex hubs?).
This isn't just Commencal though ... since 2018, Canyon and YT prices have crept up and component specs have slowly gone down.
Just an observation. I'm still all for dealer direct
Even the GG (carbon) bikes have TBB... Come on, guys!
The main reason this happens would likely be due to welding distortion, which a thread in shell will help to mitigate, press fits basically have been given a bad name from companies with poor tolerances, not finishing the bearing surfaces after heat treatment, and poor assembly practises (not applying grease etc), the actual principle of design is perfectly ok.
It's obvious that at this point in time manufacturers have found a way to make pressfits work (spin the bearings) similarly good compared to threaded ones, but that's not the problem, or the reason some people might prefer TBBs.
Either way, looks like an awesome bike! Hopefully they provide more detail on that little flip chip thing. Seems like a cool idea.
And then these angles are likely of the unsprung geometry. If you run more sag in the rear than in the front, angles slacken. If the load on the rear wheel increases even more when climbing (for instance to help maintain traction), the rear will sag even more and the front will sag less, slackening angles even more. How much this all is depends of the suspension behavior as well. End of the day, I don't think it is worth agonizing over a single degree.
Is it not a big advantage to have the axle separate from braking forces? Just curious
It's a strange decision; there are real benefits and zero downsides in four bar compared to single pivot. And it shouldn't require a very costly complete re-design like going to short link or something else entirely.
The old clash was commencals only crack at split pivot/ABC
This goes back to good ole single pivot.
Ive ridden ABC (session) fsr/horst, maestro, single pivot and now dw.
Single pivots piss me off, they are supple but suffer brake Jack and loose speed in the rough(though controlled) and every single pivot I have had was a rising rate suspension so I had to run alot of springrate to not bottom out constantly in so cal free ride/park.
I also cracked all my single pivots, but thats what kona and cannondale are known for.
My dislike for single pivot was what led me to be curious on the clash with split pivot (as my session was rough but fast). This bike is meh, rather buy a diamondback mission 2 than this thing (considering value brands).
Sincerely an opinionated firebird rider.
Would expect a freeride dedicated bike and being that the old v3's DH were pretty progressive for this one to be also but just isn't the case
I am needing the fox shock hardware front and rear.
Does anyone know what specific hardware is required for a dpx2? I cant find it listed anywhere.
Anyone????
Hopefully it's 77.2.