77designz, a small German outfit that makes chain guides, bash guards, stems, and even
a bike, has issued a precautionary recall on the brand's first two batches of stems.
The affected batch numbers are 1PS-35-35-B1, 1PS-35-45-B1, and 1PS-35-35-B2.
Anyone with an affected stem is advised to stop using it immediately and to contact 77designz for a replacement.
77designz says the problem is a material defect caused by a milling process issue during the raw plate production that caused the raw material not to have the same tensile strength in all directions. Because only random samples of raw material are tested in the quality control process, the defect wasn’t detected until recently.
To prevent future issues, 77designz now only uses raw material certified for aerospace use and has added reinforcement in critical areas of the stem. There have been no problems detected with the batches not included in the recall.
The full recall notice is
available here.
IME, they don't. It was a poor design with too little material thickness in critical areas. Sounds like their trying to convolute the answer.
I know of a few people who work in some of the small UK bike part manufacturers (manufacture myself but not bike industry) and can absolutely guarantee they don’t test their material, they trust the certs and that’s that, no problems in 10 years now but they don’t make ultra weight optimised stuff either.
E.g. it being rolled into plate, drawn into bar etc
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Wait for it.....
Either
EVOLUTION SL 318.2 or
EVOLUTION SL 318.4
Jewelry.
The structure (grain alignment) and strength will always be superior in a forged part.
When I hear "Billet" I don't always hear high(er) quality, I hear "easier to make than forged"
Forging has limitations in design and precision, but has the benefit of stronger grain structure.
Machining removes many of those design limitation, and can (possibly) result in a stronger product due to additional freedom in design/geometry.
Generally forging (high upfront cost) is economical in higher volume production, while machining (extremely expensive machining time per piece) is economical for low volume production.
now kindly go dip your head in a bucket of maple syrup.
how’s the air up there on your ignorant, arrogant high horse?
You really are captain bullshit, engineer, bike industry man, investor and payer of 1500% more tax to use the roads than the rest of us.... brilliant.
It’s ok, go check your investments and cool down.
that said, thin skin apparently follows the crown nontheless.
Fwiw, the only thing I am bigoted against is blowhards. So it would stand to reason that *you* sense it from me
You chose to insult me with bigotry against an entire nation rather than insult me directly so therefore you are a bigot, by definition, you can wear that ‘crown’
I wouldn’t judge all Americans as being arrogant, ignorant, bigots just because you are, that would be rather unfair.
‘obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group’
Wear your crown of bigotry with pride!
I’ll get on with being ‘a world class little bitch’ - good one! It’s a shame but we can’t all be 1500% better then the average guy.
Time for you to take a nap? Making yourself look like a class a idiot must be tiring?
there is no perfect manufacturing technique for something that gets loaded dynamically on all three axis'. You have to prioritize for the main force loads, then over build for the others.
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How does a ‘former bar manager’ come by such engineering and financial knowledge by the way? - and how the hell did you come to pay 1500% more than other people to drive on London’s roads?
Take it easy ‘Literal Patriarchy’ - you are one crazy guy, and I mean that literally.
get back to your wretched NHS, I think you might have a bad case of vaginal leakage.
Go collect some empty glasses....
They're DH certified but super light.. I just got mine, it looks sick!
Will need to check the batch number though just to be safe.
I does look cool, but my teeth and jaw look cool too.
To most aircraft grade means the actual grade of the material, e.g. 7075 etc, not the certification that accompanies it, especially as the intention for most 7075 is in aircraft / high mechanical load applications, why pay for it otherwise?
Never did find out if it was the supplier or the mill and if it was deliberate or a genuine mistake.
Wouldn’t at all surprise me about the variation in the definition of ‘billet’ or what they consider the correct grade anymore, we have material that looks and cuts differently from the same parent material sometimes.....
@Compositepro - Yea - we were pretty upset as you can imagine and actually received compensation from the stockholder, we had all of the certs etc and numbers matched but it was tested and was 6082 not 7075.
Every single order we make for aluminium is accompanied by certification, it tells you its composition and where it was produced, if material is mixed from different 'parent' batches it is all marked on the material and the certs are provided to show this.
We pay no extra for this, order our material from a completely standard supplier, not an aerospace specialist, every supplier we have ever used besides some wierd back-street guys we only used once supplied certs - standard practice.
I am not ISO approved but believe ISO shops cant use anything but material with certification.
Sorry, I should have put "Aerospace certified". Occasionally in the past I have had to buy actual aerospace certified material because the size I need is sold out in the normal "commercial certified" lengths. Price has been between 3x and 5x, because every single length of tube was tested and had a full report of its own.
The press release used the phrase "certified for aerospace use" which to me sounds pretty unequivocal.
Also; 69g!!!!
"We are One Composites from Kamloops / BC in Canada is the manufacturer of our handlebars and distributes a conceptually identical cockpit in North America"
But there were no reviews, and I’ve had bad luck with light stems. This announcement means this one would just live down to expectations.
Anodize it purple (3D violet) and it could be one of the cool looking garbage products of the mid 1990s.
Nope! It’s a modern, threadless stem but I don’t think it’s in production anymore.
wallerbmx.co.uk/products/odyssey-elementary-stem-v2
Guys.... wtf is wrong with you?
By ‘mill’ they don’t refer to a cnc milling machine and who mentioned plating - they mentioned ‘plate’ as the material is purchased as plate.
As in the post above, engage your brain a little, jeeeeze, and whoever liked your post do the same!
But, yeah, I'll admit my flaw in words I chose were incorrect terms.
You may be able to run a cnc mill, but you don’t know the difference between the manufacturer of material and the cnc machine itself, give it another read!