Chris Cuomo Throws Down With Michael Flynn For Refusing to Give Up 2020 Stolen Elections Claims

NewsNation’s Chris Cuomo tried his best to push back on Michael Flynn’s insistence that the 2020 election was stolen from former President Donald Trump despite no evidence of fraud. The operating word here is “tried.”

Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general who served as Trump’s National Security Advisor, was on Cuomo to promote a documentary about himself on Monday, and after discussing some of what was in the movie, Cuomo turned to Flynn’s persistence on pushing lies about the 2020 election:

Cuomo: Here’s what I think bothers people, and I think should — you brought up misgivings about the election, and you are credited with being one of the people who was in Trump’s ear saying “It was stolen from you.” You really believe the election was stolen from Trump?

Flynn: I think that the, I think that the 2020 November election was filled with fraud, and there’s all kinds of evidence that shows that, Chris. I mean, it’s undeniable now. Now, whether or not, you know, we go back to the to, you know, the way things were then, we can’t go back at this point. We have to move this country forward. We have to. But there is a ton of fraud —

Cuomo: But then why say that?

Flynn: — that has been brought —

Cuomo: But how can there be “a ton” when True the Vote, when True the Vote, which all you guys were relying on, [Matt Schlapp] and everybody else, comes out in court and says, “We don’t have the proof, we don’t have the proof.” And the videos, “Oh, but we saw the people”… No, no, you didn’t see anything. The people who were moving around the ballots, that video wasn’t what you made it out to be. Why say there was fraud when no fraud has been proven?

Flynn: Well, one of the things that I do talk about in the movie is a guy that you just brought up, is [former Vice President] Mike Pence. I talk quite a bit about Mike Pence actually, and raised this issue of where he stood in the, in the early days of the Trump administration. And then as things evolved, what was the role of what I call the establishment, right? The establishment is not just, not just Democrats, it’s Republicans as well. You know, I think that what we are going to have to do with the 2020 election, it’s going to get washed up, you know, washed out in history.

And and there is clear evidence. I don’t know about True the Vote, but I’m looking at a whole bunch of other things that are going on in places like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona. There’s just too much. And what it does is it takes away the idea of the confidence that the American people need to have in the in our vote. I mean, that’s the one thing that makes us equal on the same time, same day. And we can’t have this lack of confidence in our vote systems.

Cuomo then pointed out the flawed logic of claiming fraud before presenting actual proof, saying: “You can’t just say there’s fraud. You find fraud and then you say, ‘There is fraud, I found it.’ But when you just say it and you can’t prove it, you fuel the misgivings of the franchise and the democracy.”

Flynn responded by pushing back even harder.

Flynn: Chris, stop it! Fraud has been proven across the board. I mean, stop it. There’s more voters than registered voters in the state of Pennsylvania? Look at what the investigation, up in the state of Wisconsin. Now, this is not a Democrat issue. This is an American issue. We have to fix this.

Cuomo: There literally… Listen. I’m fine with fixing. I’m fine with making it better. I don’t understand why our money is treated better than our vote. I’m with you, I’m with you. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan. No one found material problems that influenced the outcome of their voting in any real way. And you had Republicans —

Flynn: Look at what they just found in Georgia! Look at what they just found in Georgia, Chris, oh my God! I mean, please, please.

Cuomo: What did they find in Georgia?

Flynn: Dig into what the state, what the state legislature just found in Georgia, and some of these presentations by this, one of these committees down there in the state legislature, it’s just unbelievable. It’s like 17,000 votes that that they —

Cuomo: They all certified their vote.

Flynn: No, this is all —

Cuomo: They all certified their votes.

Flynn: That I don’t deny. They certified it at the time. But what people continue to do, Chris, is there’s a number of people that keep looking at this thing and saying, “Look, we cannot have this lack of confidence in our election system.” One of the things that I agree.

Cuomo: I agree, but I feel like I feel like you’re feeding it.

Flynn: No, I’m not feeding it. Not feeding it. I don’t feed it. Well, what I do now, Chris, is I tell people to get out and vote. I tell people to go register to vote. I use this phrase local action equals the national impact. I mean, people have got to go vote. You know that the national turnout right now for voter turnout for the primaries in this really consequential election is like 35 percent nationwide. You know, we can’t have that. That’s a failing grade for people who are supposed to be able to care about this country and vote all the sacrifices that have gone on for so many centuries in this country for people to vote or to protect that vote and we still are at 35 percent for our primaries. That’s crazy, Chris.

Among Flynn’s inaccurate claims, fact checkers from multiple media outlets have repeatedly debunked the claim that there were more voters than registered voters in Pennsylvania in 2020.

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