"Chaos asks questions of you order never will" The wonderful Colleen DeCourcy retells her experience working with Dan Wieden when she took over as Chief Creative Officer at Wieden+Kennedy Her immediate response to me asking about working with Dan was this quote about chaos. We have a natural reaction against chaos because it can be destructive and unsettling but what if we reframed it as a necessary condition for achieving something truly breakthrough 🌪 Chaos propels you forward while order maintains the status quo 🌪 Chaos creates leaders while order creates managers 🌪 Chaos demands a response while order delays it 🌪 Chaos reveals the cracks while order papers them up 🌪 Chaos forces ownership while order delegates it 🌪 Chaos fosters creativity while order fosters compliance 🌪 Chaos requires trust while order replaces it It got me thinking whether there is an optimal mix of Chaos and order required to achieve breakthrough ideas and momentum? We spend most of our time creating order but what if what we actually needed was an injection of chaos? To hear more from this episode check out the links in the comments John Kearon Kerry Collinge Orlando Wood
Kids keep me in a constant state of chaos... Personally I don't think I knew the true meaning of chaos until kids... So true though, chaos brings out the best in you and your thinking
Like Andrew Tindall this kept me running a little longer! Really interesting piece on the ‘worried they won’t fire us’ and the more you suggest why a relationship won’t work, the harder the opposite party works to prove you wrong! Reminded me of an interview I had many years ago…. I wasn’t sure I really wanted the role until the interviewer (and my later boss… he will know who he is…) spent an hour listing all the reasons the role might not be big enough for me! Let’s just say I went from maybe to determined pretty fast!
I listened to this a couple of days ago - it is a great episode, full of wisdom and also some challenges. Agree the quote from Dan Wieden "Chaos asks questions of you order never will" stood out for me too. I also loved the bit about allowing creatives access to the business rather than keeping them "protected" or protecting the business from them. What can be more powerful than giving the best creative minds your business problems to dig into? Thanks for a great interview Jon Evans.
Orlando Wood - this was what we were literally just talking about regarding the best teams we have ever worked in! Never the ones with the organised spreadsheets.
I enjoyed her honesty, sharing about the comment ('mistake') she made and what the impact was on the company and the people. That was impressive Jon Evans
Such a good episode: one of my absolute favourites! Talk about people you’d love to work for.
💯💯 if you have good culture, shared values & ambition then allowing chaos feels energetic and a force to challenge the status quo. You can see how too much rigidness and order can stifle creative problem solving.
Chaos has power and force and energy. To sit with chaos for a while is important. We are quick to fix and make better. But I love the idea of unleashing a bit of chaos. Feels like magic to me.
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