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Fellow @ Harvard Innovation Labs | Founder @ Reframe | Harvard Business School, ex-McKinsey

Really pumped to share a new resource: My quick guide to product-led growth for pre-PMF startups --> Step 1: Don't do it. -- There's always a lot of hype around PLG. There are some exceptions, but here's why PLG is way cooler in theory than in practice for most early-stage B2B startups: 1 - When it doesn't work, it's really hard to know WHY it doesn't work. "How do we know if it's not working because the wrong kinds of people are coming in, we have the wrong message, we're targeting the wrong kind of person, our onboarding flow is bad, or one of 3,000 other variables?" Hint: the answer ain't in the data. It's in users' heads, and they don't want to talk to you. AKA: takes a ton of volume & money to learn anything, vs. just having a few sales calls. Your idea is always wrong in some way you can't know ex-ante -- the best way to debug it fast is to try to sell. 2 - PLG is often an excuse to avoid selling. I get it, selling "doesn't scale as efficiently." You don't want to be sales-led. You can make a TON of logical arguments against selling, but most of the time we're ACTUALLY trying to do PLG because deep down, we don't like how uncomfortable selling can feel. Even if you want to do PLG eventually, it's still worth selling in the early stage to figure out what buyers really want, in THEIR words... and this only emerges when you ask them to pay for stuff. (Sales, not "discovery" interviews.) 3 - PLG is a motion that makes sense for a very particular kind of product & buyer. And that's probably not you. Is your value prop most salient for directors or VPs? Cool, PLG's probably not for you. Does it require change management to get value out of it? Great, go sell & deliver. Your horizontal AI workflow tool? Yeah no. When it works, PLG is generally: 1) a surprise to the founders (see the stories of Loom, Segment, etc.) 2) a very narrow tool where the individual contributor is both the user and buyer Of course there are exceptions. But there's a very big, very full graveyard of non-exceptions. - PS - nothing against free trials, ungating the product, etc. I actually might be launching a PLG company. But PLG will unfold as the GTM approach if it is the right thing for the shape of the market & product opportunity, and I'm only figuring that out through 1:1 sales. PPS - I have a BIG problem with influencers shouting that the "new way to build a startup" is PLG or bust. It's hard enough to start a company when you're not getting steered into the iceberg.

Tim Simms

Builder of software things and teams that create them! | Engineering Director | Leadership Coach

2mo

I've wondered for startups using a PLG model, if the prototype you build first demonstrates the free version value or the paid version value. Talking to folks should be the way to better understand the capabilities that create value they'd pay for. Is that the idea?

Henry Hund

COO @ Aptible | Finally, get the developer platform that gives you the control, reliability, and enterprise-grade infrastructure you need

2mo

I think there is possible missing nuance here. I think that a PLG + Sales-led approach combined is best, even at the earliest stages. You should be building your product (if you can) to get people to the wow moment on their own, and quickly. But your first X customers, you'll probably be in deep communication with and helping them get started, and learning where you are wrong or right about the decisions you've made. Of course, maybe I'm nitpicking here too much: making your product easy to get started with self-service doesn't necessarily mean you are going full bore PLG (e.g. trying to drive a massive number of signups), so we might be saying the same things.

Monica Stewart

Getting founders out of survival mode through scalable revenue | $2M - $20M ARR

2mo

Rob Snyder THE PLG POST I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR. PLG is NOT "Get customers overnight without having to do anything" In many PLG companies CAC is higher than sales-led orgs due to lower price points, high churn, and the kind of community and marketing genius that is required. The dark side of this mentality is the assumption that if your product is good enough it will "sell itself", which is untrue even in companies with a PLG motion. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

Andrew Wright

Head of Marketing at Auquan. Strategic + scrappy early stage B2B startup marketing leader. Prev co-founder of Fugue (exit to Snyk)

2mo

A few times I've seen a "grass is greener" situation, where SaaS companies who've achieved significant success with 1:1 sales wanting to add (or shift to) a PLG model, and successful PLG startups trying to figure out how to become enterprise sales companies.

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Rosson Long

Business software enthusiast learning NoCode platforms that save you time and money.

2mo

Step 1 had me rolling 🤣🤣

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Garrett Jestice

Founder @ Prelude Marketing | Advisor & Coach | Former SaaS CMO | BBQ Judge | Dad of 4

2mo

Yes! I tell founders this same thing all the time. Even if you think you want to build a PLG motion eventually you should start by selling directly to learn who to target, what messaging resonates, what they care about, etc. Aside from interviewing paying customers, selling is the fastest way to learn these things.

Steven Gabriel Graham

Fractional CTO & Technical Project Leader

2mo

This is great advice for early stage teams

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Renan Ugalde

AI Engineer | CTO | 4x Ironman

2mo

Arthur Pastel good insights about what we talked about PLG pre-pmf

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