Mattias Ljungman’s Post

Seed has never been more competitive, highly priced – and confusing. It can mean everything from backing first-time founders with no product to investing in serial founders with significant traction, encompassing rounds from $500k to $6m+. So the ‘step up’ from Seed to Series A is now equivalent to scaling a sheer cliff face. It’s no wonder the percentage of Seed-stage startups able to advance to Series A within two years has dropped – from 23% for the 2020 cohort to just 5% in 2022, according to Crunchbase data. While high failure rates indicate higher quality startups coming out the other side, there’s also a risk that some are falling through the cracks, simply because their growth is being misunderstood and poorly categorised by investors who are setting unrealistic targets for valuation and growth. Early metrics for successful development should include the Googles, Notions, and Facebooks of the world that took time to mature their products and monetise. Seed has become an increasingly significant and elongated phase in a company’s early life cycle, often raising multiple million-dollar Seed rounds. The median time from a $1m+ Seed round to Series A has increased from 14 months in 2014 to 28 months in 2023, according to Crunchbase. And, like Seed, Series A rounds have got much larger – $20m+ Series As are now the norm, according to Wing VC’s data. The proliferation of terms like ‘post-seed’, ‘seed plus’, ‘A minus’ and ‘early A’ reflects an industry grappling with these changing dynamics. But these labels obscure the real progress and needs of young startups. They still define a company by the quantum being invested rather than where a company is in their growth journey. We need language that accurately captures the specific challenges and milestones of young startups at each phase of their journey. I propose categorising Seed into two distinct groups: Seed Inception, which describes the initial ticket going in, and Seed Expansion, which describes rounds where founders have already achieved some milestones and metrics. Here’s how I’m thinking about it: https://lnkd.in/enp3XEvw Thanks to Matt Robinson, Tomasz Tunguz, Crissy Costa Behrens, and Ed Sim for reading drafts of this. #seedfunding #venturecapital #founders #funding

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Seed is broken. Here’s how to fix it.

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Dave Haynes

Investing in founders building the Metaverse

1mo

Well observed and well written piece. I spoke to one or two founders about this recently. One concern they voiced is whether having all these new and different terms helps or hinders in trying to simplify things for them.

Ed Sim

boldstart ventures, partnering from Inception with bold founders reinventing the enterprise stack - Snyk, Kustomer, BigID, Blockdaemon, ProtectAI...

1mo

Mattias Ljungman great post! Thanks for expanding on my Inception stage investing, no pun intended. Hopefully founders will now know where to go when raising their early rounds and what's expected of them at the Inception or Seed Expansion. More here for those interested: https://www.whatshotit.vc/p/whats-in-enterprise-itvc-365

Andre Quintanilha

Co-founder & CISO @Palqee | AI Trustworthiness, Data Protection & Security | Keynote Speaker

1mo

Great post Mattias Ljungman, I would add that the fact that the percentage of start-ups raising a Series A within 2 years has declined does not imply they are not able to, in my view. Seasoned start-up founders have become smarter in the fundraising game, a Series A round is no longer a milestone required to achieve sustainable growth. I know of many brilliant start-up founders aiming for bootstrapping and building a strong 'camel' business rather than having heavy dilution and investor pressure going against key business interests. A more accurate metric here would be the percentage of seed stage start-ups that attempted to raise a Series A, but were not successful.

Samantha Lewis

VC at Mercury | Kauffman Fellow | Software, Digital Assets and Fintech

1mo

Seed inception and seed expansion are great classifications. Thanks for putting in the work - innovation needs to get funded and terminology shouldn’t get in the way.

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Bruno Poggi

Senior Advisor | Helping Founders and Entrepreneurs in the SME segment to sell, buy or raise capital | Quadrillingual | M&A | Sales and GTM Leader | Value Creation | Growth Modelling | Financial Services | Technology

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Jakub Komnata

AI in healthcare | VP @ Nivalit

1mo

Mattias Ljungman that’s just my observation, but the situation you described could also be related to the nature of the company. It would be interesting to match the information with the industry or the product itself. It's no surprise that the seed round would last much longer for an R&D project compared to a SaaS, or for deeptech compared to a marketplace. I believe that investments at certain stages are quite incomparable.

Dr. Andre Retterath

Partner at Earlybird Venture Capital | Author Data-Driven VC

1mo

Couldn’t agree more: Stage terminology is so off these days, you cannot compare Seed company A with Seed company B likes for likes anymore. Makes sense to look at it more granularly; good and simple framework!

Melinda Elmborg

Accelerator Co-Lead supporting startup founders to build, grow and raise capital, Forbes 30 under 30

1mo

Amazing article, thanks for being honest regarding expectations on first time VS experienced founders 🙏 it's a refreshing take that better reflects reality for most founders out there.

Patrice Fleurquin

(For hire) - Build the future via New Ventures | Startup Collaboration | Venture Capital | Innovation |

1mo

Yes indeed, I have seen Seed rounds ranging from 500k to 6M with totally different dimensions (traction, founders, plan, ....). A perfect framework to simplify SEED again. One question though: what is the level of traction that you see in Inception ?

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I think Josh Kopelman Howard Morgan had it right when they called the firm “First Round.” We should just ask entrepreneurs what round # it is. My longer thoughts here: https://www.samuelianrosen.com/blog/2023/6/11/-demystifying-startup-capital-raises-proposing-a-simpler-naming-convention

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