We know that fraudsters are opening TONS of US bank accounts to link them for money laundering via Zelle/CashApp/Venmo etc. Ever wonder how much they charge for their services? This is an ad from a Chinese money laundering company (oops! High risk payment processor, I meant...). The name translates to "918 Bet Paradise" (918 博天堂) - though many of their dozens of websites render it 博天堂918(中国)有限公司 - 918 Bet Paradise (China) Technology Company. (918 is a Chinese "number pun" for "good luck." 9(jiu)1(yao)8(ba) sounds like the words for "good luck" 加油吧 .) According to the ad, as of June 10th they were charging 40% for Zelle transfers. The same as Money Gram or Western Union. (The number displayed is the amount that the person using their services KEEPS, not what they pay.) The fee on CashApp is only 30%. The fee on Venmo is 55%! What do my #AML friends think this tells us? Is it a statement of supply and demand? or does it have more to do with chance of success or burning the account being used? I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions. On the right are some common Gift card exchange rates. Why is a Best Buy card only worth 40% of face value while a Target is 62% and a Steam is 70%?
Recently discussed with a large fintech solutions provider: Up to 70% account openings are fraudulent.
Gary, In response to your questions, I would say "Yes" to both - part of what is driving demand is the fungibility of certain cards (Mark Varacchi addresses this in his comment), but also exclusivity. I think cards that have stronger anti-fraud protections will be harder to obtain which will be a factor in increasing price. Thanks for sharing!
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Eric Huber
As always good useful intel. Thanks for sharing, Gary. Very interesting 💪🏻
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2wHI Gary Warner BEST BUY: although popular, has a lower demand for gift cards as its considered a non essential high cost item. TARGET: u can get clothes , groceries, home goods AND also electronics therefore it gets a beter payout than a BEST BUY card...STEAM: is for purchasing digital games and content..which is ALWAYS in demand..highly sought after therefore highest payout...