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On today’s #BiotechHangout, hosts Daphne Zohar, Brad Loncar, Josh Schimmer, Tim Opler, and Chris Garabedian share perspectives on the general market with a look at private vs public M&A and impact on biotech sentiment, $ALNY positive ATTR drug data, $LYEL CAR-T cell therapy trial and patient death, and more data from $WVE, $NTLA, $SVRA & $VRNA, plus financings: Curie.bio ($380M Pro Rata Series A Fund), Formation ($372M Series D), $RXRX ($200M offering) and management perspectives: $DNA’s layoffs, $AMLX’s pivot w/ $35M GLP-1 buy, and more: https://lnkd.in/eFpaapDC

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On patient death reported by $LYEL in a clinical trial for a CAR-T candidate targeting breast cancer, Tim Opler observes that “respiratory deaths are not uncommon in patients with advanced cancer. We have to recognize that CAR-Ts can trigger CRS.” He adds that the clinical trial did see an objective response rate. “I hope for the sake of patients and $LYEL shareholders that the company can work its way through this and advance the therapy.” #BiotechHangout

On the challenging commercial model of AI and synthetic bio companies, Daphne Zohar observes that these companies depend on partnerships or need to pivot to become an early-stage drug development company. Chris Garabedian adds, “We support the idea that you can come up with better starting molecules, but you can’t skip over drug dev. All of these companies that want to be an early proprietary platform aren’t going to prescribe a lot of value until clinical dev.” #BiotechHangout

Daphne Zohar shared insights from a conversation she had with $DNA’s CEO Jason Kelly who remains committed to the company’s service model. These deals all have downstream economics that $DNA didn’t realize quickly enough. $DNA is supporting laid off employees through a LinkedIn group. #BiotechHangout https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13041413/

“It’s a huge learning,” Brad Loncar on $NTLA, which demonstrated that patients can be redosed without an immune reaction to lipid nanoparticle delivery vehicles and bacterial-based CRISPR systems. $NTLA believes that, on the CRISPR-side, intracellular delivery and transient expression is key to avoiding immunogenicity. #BiotechHangout

On data, Josh Schimmer notes $ALNY reported a “great data set” for its ATTR drug in a pivotal study but that the real question is how do they compare to existing therapies from $PFE and $BBIO? Looking at new biomarkers may be a key differentiator. “It certainly looks like you have two potent options emerging from $BBIO and $ALNY.” #BiotechHangout

Chris Garabedian is excited about $AMLX’s pivot to license a GLP-1 receptor antagonist after voluntarily discontinuing their only approved drug — an ALS treatment that failed a phase 3 clinical trial. “We’re seeing how GLP-1s might affect a lot of different diseases. High glucose, which might be based on fatty liver, might be related to Alzheimer’s. I think we’re in the early innings of understanding that interplay.” #BiotechHangout

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Kicking off today’s show, Daphne Zohar notes that M&A of private biotechs is up 200% this year relative to last year, highlighted by $ABBV acquisition of Celsius. Tim Opler thinks larger acquisitions have been suppressed due to Biden’s strong anti-trust stance: “Private deals just happen to be smaller, so we have more of them percentage wise than we have seen in past years.”#BiotechHangout

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“We applaud any seed funds that can create a pipeline.” Chris Garabedian on Curie.Bio’s new $380M fund for pro rata Series A financing that bridges the valley of death. Adds that Curie.Bio is looking to support 15-20 new seed investments per year. “I’m rooting for them to get this right.” #BiotechHangout

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On $DNA’s layoffs, Brad Loncar says company’s downward trajectory is an indictment on the SPAC vehicle. “I think that the stock market will look back at this era as one of the most insane things that happened in the stock market. Not a great thing for investors.” #BiotechHangout

Has the biotech market been overshadowed by generative AI? Tim Opler finds it troubling that the market has been sluggish. “What’s it going to take? Inflation numbers are looking better. Feels like our industry has great inflection points and catalysts, but the market isn’t picking up.” #BiotechHangout

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