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This made $100,000s until... Crazy story of how the SEC messed up our startup. Me and my co-founder Mohammed Abu-Sharkh had a FinTech background. We had sold our previous companies and were looking for the next thing. Both of us loved trading stocks and were actively day-trading options. We were in 10s of discord channels, often paying $100 - $500 a month to join them for "trade ideas." These are big groups - 1000s of people all paying the admin a monthly subscription for these trade ideas. We realized a big problem - we had to be on the Discord for hours to not miss a trade. I missed a trade that the admin had sent because I wanted to take a piss. That trade could have made me $10,000 😢. We realized this happened with most of the people who had subscribed to these discords. Mohammed Abu-Sharkh had experience with trading automation so he came up with an idea to automate the trades the discord would send us. We implemented code to automate executing those trades with our broker in real-time with one discord channel. Didn't place any stop-loses 😩, the admin messed up a signal and we lost A LOT OF MONEY! Realized, if we could engineer this a bit more, we could actually sell this to other users and they would pay a lot. In a couple of days we implemented that and partnered up with these discord admins to sell this as a premium service - Trade Strategy Automation. They could upsell this to their users for 4-5x the initial price and we would take 30% of the revenue. Since they could now make $1,500 a pop, the admins didn't mind sharing the revenue. Day 7 - 300 people joined 😲 Our systems broke, we fixed it quickly and began accepting payments. This meant an annual contract value of 300 x 2000 x 12 = $5,400,000. Giving us $1,620,000. Needless to say we would be RICH. About 1,000 more folks were interested and we could have easily converted them in the weeks to follow. So I go to my lawyer to incorporate the company and figure out the paperwork. First words out of my Lawyers mouth "This is F* illegal." He said it like quite loud. I was shit scared. Then he goes on to refer me to SEC's rules on copy trading and how the discord admins have to be registered investment advisors, which they were not. The way they operate is shady but this is outright illegal that could land us in some deep shit. I thought there is a way around so I called the SEC. They told me the same thing 😂. In 6 weeks we went from losing A LOT OF MONEY to making a pipeline for EVEN MORE MONEY to coming back to square one minus the $1,000/hr legal fees we paid. In the end, it was quite an interesting experience. Built something cool sticking to our first tenants of business - Money in before Money out. When I did that math, I felt like Jordan Belfort not gonna lie. Mohammed Abu-Sharkh is onto something more interesting in cybersecurity. Completely legal this time 😂. I'm still figuring out what's next for me :)

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Satyamuny Weir

UC Berkeley Engineering | Building... | ZFellows

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This is a crazy story. And although no money was made, I can't imagine a 6 week period with more learning

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Mohammed Abu-Sharkh

Building in AI + Cybersecurity | CS @ UC Berkeley

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What a time 😂 it was fun while it lasted

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