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This hour of programming on War issponsored by Black Mountain Capitol now former Westchester
County executive Rob Astina on seven tenarOh, it's good to be with you
here on a Saturday rain. Ofcourse, just got off Newsmax and had
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to bolt over here forgot my umbrella. But here's what I learned about walking
through New York City. You couldalmost dodge the little rain drops by hugging
the buildings. And there's so manyawnings and so much scaffolding up that you
hardly get wet. But thankfully itwasn't a driving rain. It was one
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of those rains where I think you'llknow what I mean. It's one of
those rains where you hardly get wet. Some rains, like even a mist,
you get just soaking, but Ididn't. I'm okay, I'm good.
I'm good, and it's good tobe with you on this Saturday.
Every Saturday, by the way,make sure you listen. And I have
to say this to start. Iwant to thank you. We've only been
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on two months and we have builtsuch a nice audience already, and I
appreciate that, and I'm glad thatyou're listening. I'm glad you're telling your
friends we're on. I'm glad you'reposting on social media and forwarding my posts.
That's great. That's how we buildup a nice audience. And I'm
just talking to you. Everyone elseis just listening along. But I'm just
talking to you. And you areinvited to call me at one eight hundred
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three to two one zero seven ten. One eight hundred three to two one
zero seven ten. We got alot to do. We got this whole
thing going on in Lower Manhattan that'scalled the Trump Trial. Frank Farremkoff will
come up in a little while.Frank was the former National Committee Chair of
the RNC, so he was heran the RNC at one point. But
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he's also the chairman or co chairof the Presidential Debate Commission. They're the
ones that put on these presidential debates. They picked the spots, the rules,
all that kind of stuff. They'vebeen sidetracked because, as you know,
this past week, mister make myday, Joe Biden said to Donald
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trumpar and I guess you're free onWednesdays. Like that's the greatest joke in
the world, haha, because youdon't have court on Wednesdays. Because my
Justice Department has made sure that you'rein court the last four weeks and hopefully
we'll be in court the rest ofthe year, so I could go to
the beach. But anyway, theydecided to just sidestep the Debate Commission and
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they'll do it on their own,meaning they'll set up their own rules with
CNN of all places. So butin a normal year, Frank and his
team would put on the debates.I've gotten to see some of them at
Hofstra and elsewhere, and so it'dbe interesting on how this comes about.
So he'll be with us in alittle while, and I definitely am going
to get into the Harrison but commencementspeech at Benedictine College in Kansas, great
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speech if you haven't seen it,twenty two minutes YouTube, it's fantastic.
And of course the left goes berserkbecause they know he's right, he told
the truth, and they can't handlethat. So we got a lot to
do. But coming up right now, I'm going to bring in an attorney
in just a moment, and hisclient could basically be this guy who you
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would remember from Saturday Night Live.The following is a public service message from
Pathological Liars Anonymous. Hello, myname is Tommy Flanagan, and I'm a
member of Pathological Liars Anonymous. Infact, i'm I'm the president of that
organization. I didn't always lie.No. When I was a kid,
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I told the truth. But thenone day I got got stealing money out
of my mother's person. I lied. I told her was home work,
that my teacher told me to doit, and she got fired. Yeah,
that's what happened. After that linewas easy for me. Lied about
my age and joined the army Iwas. I was thirteen at the time.
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Yeah. I went to Vietnam andI was injured catching a mortarshell in
my teeth, and it made mea three star general. And then I
got a job in journalism, runningfor the National and Genographic. Yeah,
I was making twenty thousand eight month. In fact that I won the Pulitzer
Prize that year. Yeah, that'sa ticket. And then and then my
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cousin died, Joe Lewis, andI shook it hard, maybe maybe too
hard. I tried to kill myself. Yeah, I did kill myself.
I mean, that's it. Thatwas the guy that was on the stand
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all last week. That was theProsecutions star witness aka could have been Michael
Cohen. They relied on that guy, a pathological liar, just like Tommy
Flanagan, to try to take downDonald Trump seriously, and he got caught
in another lie during the trial.This is unbelievable. So Donald Trump,
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I mean, look absent absent ajury who is absent minded or so hardcore
hate filled that they can't see anythingpast their hate for Donald Trump. This
guy should be acquitted or at thevery least a hung jury. But who
knows. Who knows anyway, BobCohen, I'm sorry. Michael Cohen had
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a legal advisor at one point,Bob Costello was his attorney, a legal
advisor, and I'm going to talkto him right now because he's got some
bombshell stuff that he's been talking aboutMichael Cohen, which really makes the case
for Donald Trump. Bob Costello ofDavid Hutter and Citron, How are you?
I'm good? Thanks, How areyou? I'm good? Bob?
So all right, go backwards obviouslyto your meeting in April twenty eighteen with
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Michael Cohen. First of all,how did you get retained by him?
Or how did he call you?But really, what was that meeting about
well. Michael Cone and Jeff citronknew each other for about ten years through
two relationships. One they were bothadvisors to Stirling National Bank, and number
two, we represent Columbia Grammar andPreparatory School, which is where Baron Trump
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went to school. It's a prestigiousschool in Manhattan. And Cohen because he
worked for Donald Trump and because Trumpgave money to the school, they put
him on the board for a while, and so Jeff citron knew him there.
So then when Michael Cohne's home andlaw office got raided, Jeff sent
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him an email saying, Gee,I'm sorry to see that you're encountering all
these problems. I have a partnerwho was Deputy chief of the Criminal Division
of the US Attorney's Office, thesame office that is executing these search warrants
against you. If you want topick his brain, just give me a
ringk and Cohne responded immediately and askedthat we come up to the Regency Hotel
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and meet him the next day,which was April seventeenth, twenty eighteen,
and we did that. We wentup there, Cone arranged a conference room
on the second floor, and whenwe got there. This guy was totally
manic, marching on one side ofthe conference table, back and forth,
back and forth, back and forth, kind of like the tigers you see
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at the zoo, going back andforth, back and forth. He told
us about his legal problems with thesearch warrants and that you know, they
were it was destroying his family,his wife, his kids. He was
going on and on, and hesaid that he was on the roof of
the hotel two nights before and hewas going to jump off and kill himself
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because he couldn't handle the pressure thathe knew was coming from whatever this criminal
investigation was. So the purpose ofthis meeting was to ask us to find
him a way out and escape route, as he put So, we went
through the facts of the search warrants, and Michael said that you know,
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he hadn't done anything wrong, nocrimes in his past. He said he
was cooperating with the special counsel thatwas Muller, and he was cooperating with
Congress. Only he forgot to tellus that he lied to Congress. And
of course he lied about the factthat he hadn't committed any other crimes before
that, because eventually, about fourmonths later, he played guilty to seven
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counts involving taxi medallions and tax fraud, etc. That had absolutely nothing to
do with Donald Trump. But duringthat meeting, because he was asking for
the escape route, and I explainedto him, look, the obvious tactic
here is the Southern District is notgoing after you. They're looking for Donald
Trump. And the way to solveyour legal problems is if you have truthful
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information, and clearly they believe youdo. If you have truthful information about
Donald Trump, I can have yourproblem solved by the end of the week.
At which point he said to Jeffand myself sitting there, I swear
to God, Bob, I don'thave anything on Donald Trump. Well,
because I don't take no for ananswer the first time around, I kept
on probing, and for the twohours I probably asked him varieties of that
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question seven, eight, nine moretimes. Every time he said he didn't
have anything on Donald Trump. SoI then switched and said, well.
He kept on saying, why arethey trying to put me in jail for
MDAs. MDA's are non disclosure agreements, and I said, Michael, NDAs
are perfectly legal. They're used inquite a number of Civil Settlements. I
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said, there's nothing illegal about that. I said, what, what are
the circumstances about this NDA with StormyDaniels? So he got into the Stormy
Daniels discussion, and he said thata lawyer for Stormy Daniels had contacted him
and that he made the statement thatStormy Daniels was going to claim that she
had sex with Donald Trump unless somebodyeither bought her story or bought or brought
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her silence through an NDA. MichaelKhane then said that he decided to take
care of this. I said,wait a second, what do you mean
You've decided to take care of this? I said, this is an allegation
made against Donald Trump. I said, did Donald Trump know anything about this?
No? I said did he participatein this in any way? No?
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I said, well, how didyou take care of this? He
said? It was one hundred andthirty thousand dollars. I said, where'd
you get the money? He said, I said, was it Donald Trump
money? No? Was it fromDonald Trump's corporations? No, any of
Donald Trump's family members, no,friends of Donald Trump? No. I
said where did it come from?He said? I took out a heelock
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loan, which is a home equityloan for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
I said, why would you dosomething like that? He said,
because I knew that any story thatcame out, even though I didn't believe
these allegations at all, it'd beembarrassing, and especially it would be embarrassing
to Milania, said Michael Cone.He said, so, I wanted to
keep this thing secret. That's whyI took out the Helock loan. I
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didn't want Malania to know about this. I didn't want my own wife to
know about this because if I tookany money out of my personal accounts,
since she handles the family finances,she'd know right away. He said.
She'd asked me a hundred questions andI didn't want to answer them. So
the point of all of this wasat the time that Michael Cone was in
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a totally suicide idle state, desperatelylooking for a way out. We presented
him with the way out. Ifhe had truthful information on Donald Trump,
all of his legal problems would besolved by the end of the week.
But I expressed to him the importanceof it being truthful information. As I
said, you've never dealt with peoplelike they have in the Southern District of
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New York. These people are veryvery smart. If you attempt to sell
them a bill of goods that's nottrue, they'll catch you in a minute.
I'm telling you that from experience,and I have experienced with this office
now for probably thirty years. Sodon't even let that thought enter your mind.
It's got to be truthful. Butif you have something truthful, and
I kept on pressing him, hesaid, well, I know that there
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was some money missing from the Trumpinaudural ball. I said, well,
is that involving Donald Trump? No, I said, does Donald Trump know
about it? No? I said, then it's useless. Michael, I
said, you can't sell that tothe Southern District of New York in exchange
for immunity. That's what we're tryingto do here. So we spent two
hours going back and forth, andas he's marching on the other side of
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the table, he keeps on stoppingin the middle of a thought and pointing
at Jeff Citron and myself and saying, guys, I want you to understand
I will do whatever the f Ihave to do. I will never spend
a day in jail, and he'dslam his hand on the conference room table.
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This happened probably at least ten times, maybe twenty times during that two
hours. Spontaneous utterance is like that. I mean, we had done nothing
to cause him to make a statementlike that, But he's expressing that even
though he's suicidal and desperately looking fora way out, he doesn't have any
honest, truthful information on Donald Trumpbecause that's the easy way out. But
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at the same time he's saying,I'm willing to do anything in order to
avoid going to jail. Well,he did go to jail, and because
he went to jail names Donald Trump. So right now, in my view,
the guy's on a revenge tour.That's what he's doing. He's made
up stories because since he took careof this, it's very easy to say,
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well, yeah, I took careof the Stormy Daniels thing, and
I told Donald Trump all about it, because it's his word against Donald Trump's
word, and Donald Trump may nottestify. So that's Michael Cohne's scheme.
It's going to fail because he's liedabout so many things that he virtually has
no credibility. When all of thesefacts were presented to the US Attorney's Office
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for the Southern District of New York. They decided to never deal with Michael
Cohne again. Let me just giveyou a quick back. The only reason
I can talk to you about thisis because Cohan waved the attorney client privilege.
The reason for him waiving the attorneyclient privilege was that Cohane was trying
to lessen his sentence on the eightfederal crimes that he had pled guilty to,
and in order to do that,he came down and he told a
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fib to the Southern District of NewYork. He said Rudy Giuliani and Bob
Costello conspired to obstruct justice by tamperingwith a witness, the witness being Michael
Cohne by waving a pardon. Danglinga pardon was the story that they were
giving out to the newspapers under Khane'snose in order to keep his mouth shut.
Well, if you analyze what actuallyhappened. On the very first day
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we met him, we were encouraginghim to cooperate and to give information on
Donald Trump if it was truthful.But he didn't have any truthful information.
So When he went to the USAttorney's office with that, they said,
Michael, in order to investigate this, you're going to have to waive attorney
client privilege. Otherwise Costello want toanswer a single question, he won't be
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able to. So Cone exercised thatright and he waived his attorney client privilege,
which is the reason why I'm inthe middle of all of this right
now, because I can talk aboutthe lies that Michael Cohne told us,
and the fact that he told ussomething completely different from what he's telling the
Manhattan Diay's office and the New Yorkjury. He's Bob Costello or the Rob
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Astrino show here on seven to tenwor so obviously this is this is like
game said in match. I mean, he was horrible last week for the
government. He is a liar,and it was proven he was a liar
again Todd Blanche caught him in anotherline in front of the jury. So
here's the question, though, Bob, next week, does Donald Trump's team
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put you on the stand and totell your story or do they say we
don't need it because he hung himself. Basically, Michael Cohen, well,
you know that's a that's a closequestion, and that's a question that's decided
not by me, but by ToddBlanche and the rest of the people on
that team. But the issue thatthey have to consider is sure, they
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may think that they're in the lead, and they may think that they destroyed
Michael Kohne, but you never knowuntil you get the results from the jury.
That's true minutes too late. Soin a case like this, they
may think that they've already won thisgame by ten to twenty points, but
with a New York jury and DonaldTrump, maybe you have to win by
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fifty. So they're gonna ponder thatover this weekend and decide what they're going
to do. But first they haveto finish the cross examination of Michael Cone
on Monday, and then the NewYork Die's Office gets to redirect Michael Cone
to see if they can salvage thistheir star witness, and I don't think
there's any way they can do that. But at that point then they'll make
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a motion to dismiss the case.The Trump people and this case should be
dismissed. That's a direct verdict directedis that it's called directed verdict? Right?
Excuse me? A directed verdict?Right? But they'd have to ask
Judge Murshaan, who's allowed all thisnonsense in his courtroom to happen. What
do you think the odds are thathe would say, listening to everything that
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he's listened to, what do youthink the odds are that he would not
even send it to the verdict andjust dismiss to the jury and dismiss it.
I think it's slim. Yeah,exactly, unfortunately, because any other
judge would not let this case goto the jury. But R Shun has
already made many instances of reversible error. But my view is that they don't
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care if they lose this case onappeal because that'll probably take place after the
election. Exactly. They simply wantto win right now so that they can
use that as propaganda. And they'renot worried about after the election. And
that's reprehensible because that's not the wayour courts are supposed to work. It's
so true. Well, Bob,I appreciate you coming on and telling your
story. It's a great one.It's a bombshell and it's all true,
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and you know it's exactly and giventhe word of Michael Cohen or Bob Costello
or really anybody else. I thinkthe jury and the rest of the world
would side with you. But whoam I to tell I'm not one of
the twelve in the jury box.That's true, Ye, Bob, agree
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with you? Yeah, I appreciateyou coming on, Bob, I do.
You're quite welcome. All right,A good weekend you too. That's
Bob Costello of David Off Hutcher andsit you on a great law firm.
And what his story, because that'sthe behind the scenes of Michael Cohen and
the state of his mind, andthe fact that he admitted, now to
two people, because there were twopeople in that room, he admitted that
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he had nothing truthful to say,nothing against Donald Trump, none of this
is true, and that he wassuicidal and would do anything. Imagine being
in that position, You'll do anythingto stay out of jail and not lose
your law li like all this stuff. And he couldn't come up with something
until the prosecutor's DA Brad got tohim and basically said, you know,
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I'm sure say what you need tosay. But hopefully that jury, and
there's two judges, two attorneys onthat jury, Hopefully at the very least
they will see through this pathological liar. All right, when we come back,
you know, Donald Trump has acceptedJoe Biden's offer to do two debates
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should have been three normally there arethree. And we'll talk with Frank Farrenkopf,
who is on the Presidential Debate Commissionthat normally runs these. So we'll
talk to him about the debates,what goes into them, and it may
not be their debates to have thisyear. All that and more one eight
hundred three two one zero seven ten. I'll try to slip your calls in
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later two The rob Astorino Show hereon seven ten WR. Rob Asterino on
seven to ten worh baby, comeback, huh, don't go, don't
go. We're here till five,So make sure you stay with us on
seven to ten wor make sure youfollow me by the way on all social
media at rob Astino. And ofcourse, if you wanted to rehear that
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whole interview with Bob Costello, whata that was fantastic, I mean,
what great behind the scenes with MichaelCohen at his worst and great stuff.
If you've missed any of that andwant to listen to it again, go
to seven TENWR dot com click onthe podcast tab of the Rob Ascarino Show,
or of course on your iHeart appon your phone. You could always
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listen to us, and you're gonnawant to listen again after this. I
guarantee you. Of Frank Farrenkopp,who is with me now on seven to
ten WR. Frank was the RNCchair in the eighties and also is the
chair of the Presidential Commission, orthe Commission on Presidential Debates, which apparently
we're going to have but they're notgoing to do. Frank, how are
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you? Oh fine, Rob,I'm good. I'm good. So this
is interesting, right, We normallyhave these debates that you and your team
puts on. Let me let meask you first before we get into what
Biden and Trump are going to doon their own. Take us back to
how these debates actually happen. Inother words, how do you find the
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sites that you select? Do theypay for them? I mean all those
kind of behind the scene stuff ofputting it together. What happens is a
year before the election year. Soin January of twenty three, we set
out to colleges and universities across thecountry who have indicated some interest in maybe
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hosting the debates. We always dothem on the grounds of colleges or universities
as part of our educational purpose.We've done we took over from the League
of Women Voters in nineteen eighty eight. We've done every presidential and vice presidential
general election debates. I want tomake that distinction, rob We have absolutely
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nothing to do with the primary debateseither of the parties. Then we get
in those results from those colleges anduniversities and we have a team of people
experts, cameramen, lighting, sound, etc. They go out and look
at the facilities on these campuses.There also has to be like five thousand
hotel rooms within a certain area,because we sometimes get ten thousand reporters from
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all over the world to cover thesethings, and then they come back to
come back to us. They're limiteddown from there, and then the Secret
Service goes out and checks them.They want to make sure that they can
lock down that, you know,the campus for security purposes. And that's
why you know, I'm sure youhave many listeners who went to Hosta those
where hosts lives close to hospital.Why Hosta has done so many of these
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debates along with Washington University in SaintLouis because the Secret Service love those campuses
from the standpoint of being able toreally maintain security for the candidates and the
people involved. So then we getthem back to the after the Secret Service
has told us what they think,and then we choose the four because we
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do three presidential debates and one vicepresidential debate. At least that's the traditional
way. This year is, youknow, it's sort of a strange political
year, you could say, andwhat has happened along the way long before.
We normally do not talk to anybodyon the campaigns, and we don't
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deal with the Republican National Committee,the Democratic National Committee, or the Libertarian
Party and the de Green Party.Those four parties are automatically on all the
ballots in the United States, allthe state ballots because of the record they
have over the last ten or fifteenyears of every four years being on enough
ballots to get to two seventy,which is the requirements in order to be
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invited to the debate. You mustcomply with the constitutional requirements, which is
you have to be thirty five yearsof age, have lived here for fourteen
years, and you've got to beon enough ballots from state to state to
conceivably get two hundred and seventy electrovotes. Then one more thing happens before
you could be invited is after you'renominated by your party and you win the
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nomination, is we, with thehelp of the Gallop organization, pick the
five what we feel are the strongestpolls out there, and you must average
fifteen percent or higher on those pollsto be invited to participate, And that's
what happens, and we then offerthem. Now, as you know right
now, it's a different world thistime because even we don't have Biden renominated,
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so he really at this point intime, is not officially the candidate
of the Democratic Party. The samething with Donald Donald has not been renominated
by the Republican National Convention. Itcomes first, it'll be in July.
The Democratic convention will be in August, and at that time they officially become
the candidate of those parties. Andthose parties are the ones that are on
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enough ballots to conceivably get to twohundred and seventy electric votes. So that's
the way the process usually works.It hasn't worked that way this time.
Now we name the schools and youknow the dates that we would go with
our four, but trying to wiggleit out together and see if they can
get it done. Rob Astarino Showhere on seven to ten w R.
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Frank Farnkopf is with us from theCommission on Presidential Debates. So, Frank,
you know, the the ire ofRepublicans in a lot of these debates
is that it's sort of liberal moderators. It's kind of slanted. You know,
they're always that the Republicans up therenot only battling the guy who was
left or right, but it's goingto be also i should say, or
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her right, Hillary Clinton. Butit's always slanted. And so how are
the moderators chosen for this? Imean, you know, they wouldn't have
Fox do a debate or Newsmax doa debate, but it always seems to
be the left. And at thistime and this was their choice, CNN
and ABC are going to have thedebates, But who picks the moderators.
Well, let's back up for amoment, because what normally happens is once
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we've we've got everyone on board withthe dates and what's going to happen,
then we come out with what theformat is going to be. And our
format is fundamentally we divide the nineteenminutes into six fifteen minute pods, and
the rules are that the moderator willa week or so ahead of time indicate
what each of the six point fifteenthe subject matter will be in the questions
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dealing with you know, one couldbe foreign policy, one could be education,
to taxes, et cetera. Andthen the rule is the moderator now'll
get to how we do it.I picked them. We'll ask candidate number
one to what's his views on taxes? And he gets two minutes uninterrupted.
The other party can interrupted. Thenafter that the other candidate gets two minutes
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from then honest, the moderator hasthe right to go dig down on both
of the statements. They can arguewith each other. We hope they do.
We like to see the interplay betweenthe two candidates as it goes forward.
Now, the problem with all thatin the first debate last time,
and you must remember who the moderatorwas. Us Wallace was at that time
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with Fox. Yeah that's true,but he's showing his true colors now it's
CNN. Well, remember he wasthe final moderator four years before in the
Hillary Donald and done a great job. But what happened here is Donald at
first broke the two minute rule andinterrupted you know, Biden, and then
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from then on it was out ofcontrol, out of control. So then
in the final debate of four yearsago, I said, well, here's
what we're going to do. We'regonna put in a mute button, and
if somebody speaks when the other person'ssupposed to have the right to not be
interrupted, we'll push the mute buttonand shut off the other person's microphone.
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Now, we never had to useit, and some people have said we've
muted Donald or we muted Byen.No, we didn't. We didn't have
to use it. Just the factthat they knew it was there. They
all complied with the rules. Nowwhat we do with regard picking the moderators,
and you're right, Rob, it'sthe hardest thing we have to do
these days. You know, it'snot like the old days where you had
a Bob Schieffer on CBS who youknew was a guy who as coach as
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you could get, you know,down the middle right and would always do
a good job. Because of what'shappened with the networks, I mean,
you have to look along hard tofind some that doesn't lead towards the Republicans
or lean towards the Democrat more leantowards the Democrats, obviously. But what
we do is we among ourselves onthe Commission, and we've got people who
are experienced with working with the networksand so forth, we come up with
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maybe five six suggestions. And whatwe do is we monitor them. We
monitor what they're doing for two orthree months. Are they trying to get
to the middle, are they tryingto you know, not go one way
or the other? Do what they'resupposed to do as journalists is not be
biased in any way. And thenwe do our best to choose from there
who we're going to use, andwe tell them they're also and this is
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important, they're not fact checkers.They're not fact checkers. In other words,
if candidate number one says something thatis inconsistent with something he said a
week before, it's not for themoderator to say, well, i'd a
minute, candidate number one, you'rechanging your stories. This is a debate.
It should be for the other candidateto do it. And so that's
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the way we go about it.It's tough to get the moderators and choosing
today with the way the you know, when you look now at the American
public's trust in the media, itis really it's the worst it's ever been.
It's in the low twenties. Yep, it is in the low twenties
and well deserved. Yeah, well, no question about it. So that's
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kind of the process that we do. And the reason we were created in
nineteen eighty seven is because historically thecandidates could never agree, could never agree
on what what would happen. Andwe've already seen this. Well CNN,
you know, met with the Bidenpeople, came up with his plan and
Donald accepted it right away. Butthen the question came up, Well,
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Donald said, I want to debateanother debate. They said, no,
no, you can't. You're onlygoing to get this one on one debate
and you can't have Kennedy in it. And so, you know, we're
not here yet. What's going tohappen. We don't know whether or not
their debate is going to go forward. And so the commission, you know,
we're just said we're ready to go. We don't start until September sixteenth,
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would be our first debate. There'sthis June twenty seventh, and again
that's before anyone has won the nominationthe Republican Party of your Democratic Party officially.
So I do think we are Ido agree that the debate should be
earlier than mid October. You know, some of them are getting into mid
October when so many people half thecountry have already voted. And so I
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do agree with the time. Sothat's not the way. But see,
that's not what happened. If yougo back four years. Remember we were
in the virusah and therefore state legislatureswent out and moved back the dates because
people didn't want to line up ayou know, the election day and off
where you could vote by mail,you didn't have to vote in person.
And by the time our first debatelast time we went to the books,
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about nine hundred thousand people had voted. This year. What we did is
we've been born in mind what thedates were, and right now we've got
the sixteenth of September. A keynumber date is a week before September sixth.
It is only on September sixth whenthe final states have all declared who
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will qualify for their ballot. Andremember you've got to qualify for two hundred
and seventy elector votes, so wecan't do anything until that date is over,
So waited one week. The onlypeople who can vote prior to that
first debate, or in the stateof North Carolina, if they early on
apply for a absentee ballot, theycan go in and get the ballot on
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the sixth, a week before,and cast their ballot. But that's it.
Every other state, every other stateis after the first debate. Frank
Farnkoff with us on the Rob AstrinoShow here on seven ten w R.
Let me ask you this. I'msure that because you were the RNC chair
at one point, so obviously you'reRonald Reagan was I was Ronald Reagan's chairman.
Yep. My favorite president and heReagan. When I was in high
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school, Reagan was president and thatwas it. I was hooked. And
I never got to vote for Reaganbecause my first year that I was eligible
was after that I think it waseighty five, so my first one was
for George Herbert Walker Bush. Butlet me ask you this, So,
if there's one thing that you couldchange about your own debates, if you
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do have them, what would itbe? Because it has to be agreed
upon. But if you could justbe King Frank and decrease something different,
what would it be. Well,at this point in time, it's kind
of hard to answer that because wehave made major changes over the years to
make sure that the candidates, youknow, are answering the questions and so
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forth. Originally, if you wereto go back to say the nine eight
when Ronald Reagan first ran for thepresidency against Jimmy Carter and against John Anderson
who was a congressmanho was the thirdparty candidate. But then it was a
moderator and three reporters, okay,and the reporters each got a chance to
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make ask a question. So reporternumber one would hadlong, you know,
worked long and hard on his orher question to show how bright they were
to make it, and they wouldask, and the rules were they would
ask a question of candidate number one, and candidate A number one would have
two minutes to reply. Then theother candidate number two would have thirty seconds
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to reply, and then the numberone would get fifteen seconds more to reply.
Then they would move to reporter numbertwo. But if the candidates haven't
answered the question, reporter number twohas also worked very hard on their question.
They don't want to go back andfollow up and on the question that
wasn't answered by the first reporter.So we eventually changed that. We changed
it at a debate at Michigan State. I'm trying to remember the year.
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I remember it was the year itwas. It was George H. W.
Bush and Ross Perrot was involved thatyear along with Bill Yeah in ninety
two, and what we did forhalf of the debate we did the normal
thing moderator and the three reporters,and then we said let's just do the
moderator for the for the last ofit with the power to drill down and
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make sure that every question is answered. And it was fabulous, and ever
since then it's just a single moderator. Then in Denver, in it was
Obama versus Governor Romney, we madethe last major change was the sixth we've
come up with the six fifteen minutesegments with the ability of the moderator to
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drill down and try to get themthat debate. So we've come a long
long way, a long long wayin changing and trying to perfect. Nothing's
perfect. You never know when someone'sgonna I don't know if you remember in
two thousand where al Gore walked overand stood in front of George W.
Bush when he was sitting on astool in the town hall meeting. I
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mean, so there's some things youcan't control. The Biden people said they
were very angry at the Commission afterwhat happened four years ago, because when
when Trump would have broke over thetwo minute rule, I should have stopped
the debate. That's why I'm goingto have stopped it. Bake, don't
get that's crazy. Oh, youactually should have stopped it. And so
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also last time, we had theCleveland Clinic who was advising us in the
medical things, because you know,we were in the middle of the of
the of the difficulties we were dealingwith virus, and everyone in that hall
was supposed to wear the mask.Well, the family of Donald Trump came
in with masks on, and thenthey took them off, and the Cleveland
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Clinic went and tried to offer themnew masks, and they wouldn't take them
and didn't put them on again.I said to them, what was I
supposed to do? Was I supposedto go and throw them out? I
mean, so you know, youget some nitpicking, but at this point
in time, I think the otherthing, and you and I have talked
about this, I think there aretwo things I get out of these debates.
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Number one is are they answering thequestion so that the voters can determine
where that individual stands on issues thatare important to that person. And the
other is they get a view ofthe of the personality of the person.
I've learned after doing thirty three ofthese things over the last thirty some years,
that the American people would like tolike their candidates, would really like
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to like their candidates, and youget a feeling for their personality and et
cetera. Now, the last twocycles, I mean, when it was
Hillary and Donald, all the pollsset like either one of them. And
right now I think the last pollI saw I had sixty percent of the
people saying they wish there were twoother candidates running. So I don't know
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how you change that, but youknow, we just have to see,
and that I've said this before,if they can do it, if the
candidates can do it on their ownand have to be successful with this,
even though they're arguing like crazy rightnow over where they're going to go for
a third Are they going to doa third debate? Where's the vice presidential
debate going to be, who's goingto moderate? Where they going to stand?
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Are they going to be seated atthe table? Are they going to
walk out? I mean, allthose things have yet to be to be
met. But if they're able todo it, and they come up with
two debates that really accomplish what theAmerican people need, I will salute them.
Can it's easy? Yeah? Canyou lie down in a bed?
Can you have somebody wake you up? Can you have notes? Frank farren
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Kopf, thank you so much forbeing with me today. I appreciate it.
And you've done great work. Andyou know what, something tells me
you still may get a shot athaving a presidential debate this year by the
Commission. So we ain't did yet, you ain't. Yeah, Frank varron
Kopf, thanks so much. Allright, when we come back, I
got to talk to you about HarrisonButker. His speech was terrific. And
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also I caught something in my yardtoday and they're cute, but they're not
cute. I'll tell you what itis. And just a bit I'm rob
Astino here on the rob Astorino Showon seven to ten WR. Seven ten
WR presents the rob As do RenoShow to the gentleman here today. Part
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of what plagues our society is thislie that has been told to you that
men are not necessary in the homeor in our communities. As men,
we set the tone of the culture. And when that is absent, disorder,
dysfunction, and chaos set in.This absence of men in the home
is what plays a large role inthe violence we see all around the nation.
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Other countries do not have nearly thesame absentee father rates as we find
here in the US, and acorrelation could be made in their drastically lower
violence rates as well. Be unapologeticin your masculinity, fighting against the cultural
emasculation of men. That's Harrison Butker, number seven of the Kansas City Chiefs,
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kicksfield goals for a lit. He'sgreat at it, and up until
about now you probably didn't know muchabout him. If you're a casual fan
of the NFL. If you're anNFL fan, obviously you are fantasy football.
Yeah, if you watch the SuperBowl, you know all that he's
one of the best in the league. He's terrific. And so he gave
this commencement address at Benedictine College inKansas, which is a Catholic college,
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and so he is a devout Catholicspeaking to a Catholic audience, and he's
talking about the tenets of Catholicism.And I'm telling you, if you have
not watched this, if you justheard about it, do you say if
a favor YouTube it. Harrison Butkercommencement speech. It's I think twenty two
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minutes long. Watch it. It'sterrific. This is what a commencement speech
should be about. You know,so many times you get all these whoever,
like you know, business leaders,politicians, all these guys and women
standing up there with their little robeson and their caps and just sitting there
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pretending like they know anything, andit's a blah blah blah fest, and
nobody remembers what they said anyway.They try to be funny and they're not.
And he just went right at itand he said, look, this
world is fed up. And itis. And he says, you know,
we've got leaders who have really letus down in our own church,
the Catholic Church. And he said, we've got bishops who basically seeded the
(41:30):
whole moral high ground and our ownvalues during COVID. They shut us down,
they shut our churches down, andthey didn't speak up, and so
people died without getting the sacrament atthe end, and they died without the
presence of Jesus. And he said, and they're emasculating men, and society
today is telling us that men don'tmatter, fathers don't matter. And he
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went on and on, and hewas really good. And because he was
good, and because he was tellingthe truth, because he poked the bear
on the left, they pounced onhim. And you know what, he
didn't back down. And I'm I'mso happy that the number one selling jersey
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in the NFL this week, numberseven for the Kansas City Chiefs, Harrison
Butker is the number one selling jerseythis week, because there's so many people
out there that want to hear thatneed to hear that, but are happy
that somebody is saying what they feel. That's kind of like Trump. I
mean, Trump is saying all thisstuff that we know it's true. I
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mean, do you honestly think they'reforty eight genders? But the left is
going to tell you they're forty eightgenders there were, no matter. I
don't know how many are this week, but we've got to play along with
their game, and we're tired ofit. And so Harrison Butker, again
to a Catholic audience, as adevout Catholic, was telling them, here,
here's what we believe as Catholics,here's what Jesus tells us, here's
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what's in the Bible. Well,now we've got to go live it.
And by the way, don't letthem tell you not to live your life
the way you should. And soyou know, of course that all the
lunatics on the left went berserk,as they always do. But let me
tell you some about give kudos hereto Whoopy Goldberg, who I can't stand,
and that stupid show the view Ican't stand. But anyway, she
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actually stood up for Harrison Buker,and she said, I disagree with everything
he says, but I agree withhis right to say it. And Bill
Maher said the same thing. We'remaking this guy out to be a monster.
He's a Catholic talking about his religion. When did that become a crime.
So every now and then there's afew on the left, and Bill
Maher has been more consistent with thisthat understand what's happening on their side is
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dangerous. Right, shut down allspeech, cancel culture, all this,
it's bad stuff. And so Ithought it was a great speech. I
hope honestly, you gotta listen toit. I mean, I know some
people are like, yeah, Iheard something. Do yourself a favor.
Go to YouTube Typen Harrison Butker commencementand watch it and tell me if you
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don't agree. You could instant messageme if you'd like, direct message me
all my social media Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. I'm on the mall at
rob Astarino and let me know ifyou disagree. I thought it was unbelievable
a couple of things I saw.And you know, I hate the airlines.
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I am so sick of the airlinesbecause they are nickel and diming us
to death. The service is horrible. Jet Blue the worst. Now I
used to love Jet Blue. Theyare atrocious. But anyway, major airlines
finally I agree. I can't believeI'm saying this. Do I have to
say this? Pete bootajeedge I agreewith him on something, the Transportation Secretary,
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because the major airlines are now suingthe Transportation Department, which came out
with a rule that said, theseairlines have to have upfront disclosure on all
their add on fees when you goto buy a ticket. So how many
times have you done what I've done? You go to Expedia or you go
directly to Delta dot com or whatever, and you put in your flight and
(45:19):
blah blah blah, and it's like, oh, that's pretty good, fair
ninety nine dollars. Let me getthat, and you click it on ninety
nine dollars and then all of asudden boop, oh, yeah, well
we forgot. It's sixty dollars.If you want to actually check in your
luggage, it's thirty dollars. Ifyou're bringing a carry on, it's ten
dollars. To breathe our air it'sfifteen dollars to take a pee in our
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bathroom. And by the way,if you want a seat, yeah here,
it's fifteen for this one. Andyou don't know what the hell you're
paying until the end when you addup it's like, wait a minute,
that ninety nine dollars seat is twohundred ninety nine dollars. So they're saying
you've got to be upfront with yourcharges, and so they're fighting it.
The airlines are fighting it. AndSouthwest Airlines that's the only one that,
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by the way, that don't chargefor luggage. Maybe you might not get
to where you're going, but SouthwestAirlines doesn't charge for you to fly and
pay for your luggage. But they'realso joining the lawsuit because to me,
that's like, Okay, at somepoint they're gonna do this and and and
they won't hold out anymore because itis big money. You know how much
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money they make now they make acollective seven billion dollars in baggage fees.
It's crazy. Did you see thenew uniforms that the Giants are gonna be
wearing for their one hundredth anniversary.It is hideous, I don't. I
mean, it looks like a Divisionthree team that picks something out of like
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the gym closet or something. It'sit's in the middle of the jersey.
It's blue with eight stripe separating theblue and the white number and then red
above it and below it, andit's just it's, I don't know,
it's horrible. You know, theNFL allows now you get two different alternate
(47:12):
jerseys that you could wear up toa maximum of three times each season.
And so the Giants, you know, they got their ninety eighty throwbacks,
which I like. But now theseteams have these alternate jerseys, which to
me are just disgusting. I can'tstand any of them. Just wear your
traditional jerseys or your throwbacks. Alot of us like the throwbacks because it
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brings us back to the time whenwe, you know, we were growing
up. But either way, theGiants have this horrible red jersey that you'll
see sometime this year. So lastly, the you know, in our yard,
we have this pergola and underneath itit's like sort of wood, like
(47:53):
a wood deck. But underneath thewood deck, we've noticed that they're like
shuffling going along and some wood isbroken up, and it's like and we
like to sit out there at nighttimebecause we have one of those little fire
pits, and we'll sit out therewith friends. But like, who wants
to be out there knowing there's somethingunderneath you? I don't know. I'm
(48:15):
not gonna do that. So anyway, my wife, of course, what
do you do? Amazon The nextday, here comes a trap to my
front door. So she puts thistrap out in the yard and she throws
some chicken and cheese or whatever theheck is in there. And like the
last five days since we've had itup, nothing every morning, wake up
nothing. This morning, I wakeup, boom, there it is and
(48:37):
I'm like, what is that?Is that a bunny? What is it?
And I go out there look andthere it is a raccoon. And
these things look cute. But whenI got close, it just looked at
me and jumped. I must havejumped about thirty feet backwards. And I'm
like, you want me to pickup that cage, put in the car,
(49:00):
drive it ten miles north and letit out. Are you freaking kidding
me? I ain't going near thatcage. So you had to call a
trapper in today who took that raccoonsomewhere? Anyway, Thank you for being
with me. Listen to the podcastif you'd like forward it to other friends.
We are back next Saturday, asalways at four pm. Make sure
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you listen watch me Saturdays on Newsmaxfrom one to three. Then I walk
over here and have fun. Thankyou to Bruce, thank you to Noah,
thank you everybody for listening. It'sgoing to well. This hour of
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This hour of programming on War issponsored by Black Mountain Capitol now former Westchester
County executive Rob Astina on seven tenarOh, it's good to be with you
here on a Saturday rain. Ofcourse, just got off Newsmax and had
(00:26):
to bolt over here forgot my umbrella. But here's what I learned about walking
through New York City. You couldalmost dodge the little rain drops by hugging
the buildings. And there's so manyawnings and so much scaffolding up that you
hardly get wet. But thankfully itwasn't a driving rain. It was one
(00:48):
of those rains where I think you'llknow what I mean. It's one of
those rains where you hardly get wet. Some rains, like even a mist,
you get just soaking, but Ididn't. I'm okay, I'm good.
I'm good, and it's good tobe with you on this Saturday.
Every Saturday, by the way,make sure you listen. And I have
to say this to start. Iwant to thank you. We've only been
(01:10):
on two months and we have builtsuch a nice audience already, and I
appreciate that, and I'm glad thatyou're listening. I'm glad you're telling your
friends we're on. I'm glad you'reposting on social media and forwarding my posts.
That's great. That's how we buildup a nice audience. And I'm
just talking to you. Everyone elseis just listening along. But I'm just
talking to you. And you areinvited to call me at one eight hundred
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three to two one zero seven ten. One eight hundred three to two one
zero seven ten. We got alot to do. We got this whole
thing going on in Lower Manhattan that'scalled the Trump Trial. Frank Farremkoff will
come up in a little while.Frank was the former National Committee Chair of
the RNC, so he was heran the RNC at one point. But
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he's also the chairman or co chairof the Presidential Debate Commission. They're the
ones that put on these presidential debates. They picked the spots, the rules,
all that kind of stuff. They'vebeen sidetracked because, as you know,
this past week, mister make myday, Joe Biden said to Donald
(02:17):
trumpar and I guess you're free onWednesdays. Like that's the greatest joke in
the world, haha, because youdon't have court on Wednesdays. Because my
Justice Department has made sure that you'rein court the last four weeks and hopefully
we'll be in court the rest ofthe year, so I could go to
the beach. But anyway, theydecided to just sidestep the Debate Commission and
(02:38):
they'll do it on their own,meaning they'll set up their own rules with
CNN of all places. So butin a normal year, Frank and his
team would put on the debates.I've gotten to see some of them at
Hofstra and elsewhere, and so it'dbe interesting on how this comes about.
So he'll be with us in alittle while, and I definitely am going
to get into the Harrison but commencementspeech at Benedictine College in Kansas, great
(03:04):
speech if you haven't seen it,twenty two minutes YouTube, it's fantastic.
And of course the left goes berserkbecause they know he's right, he told
the truth, and they can't handlethat. So we got a lot to
do. But coming up right now, I'm going to bring in an attorney
in just a moment, and hisclient could basically be this guy who you
(03:28):
would remember from Saturday Night Live.The following is a public service message from
Pathological Liars Anonymous. Hello, myname is Tommy Flanagan, and I'm a
member of Pathological Liars Anonymous. Infact, i'm I'm the president of that
organization. I didn't always lie.No. When I was a kid,
(03:52):
I told the truth. But thenone day I got got stealing money out
of my mother's person. I lied. I told her was home work,
that my teacher told me to doit, and she got fired. Yeah,
that's what happened. After that linewas easy for me. Lied about
my age and joined the army Iwas. I was thirteen at the time.
(04:13):
Yeah. I went to Vietnam andI was injured catching a mortarshell in
my teeth, and it made mea three star general. And then I
got a job in journalism, runningfor the National and Genographic. Yeah,
I was making twenty thousand eight month. In fact that I won the Pulitzer
Prize that year. Yeah, that'sa ticket. And then and then my
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cousin died, Joe Lewis, andI shook it hard, maybe maybe too
hard. I tried to kill myself. Yeah, I did kill myself.
I mean, that's it. Thatwas the guy that was on the stand
(04:57):
all last week. That was theProsecutions star witness aka could have been Michael
Cohen. They relied on that guy, a pathological liar, just like Tommy
Flanagan, to try to take downDonald Trump seriously, and he got caught
in another lie during the trial.This is unbelievable. So Donald Trump,
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I mean, look absent absent ajury who is absent minded or so hardcore
hate filled that they can't see anythingpast their hate for Donald Trump. This
guy should be acquitted or at thevery least a hung jury. But who
knows. Who knows anyway, BobCohen, I'm sorry. Michael Cohen had
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a legal advisor at one point,Bob Costello was his attorney, a legal
advisor, and I'm going to talkto him right now because he's got some
bombshell stuff that he's been talking aboutMichael Cohen, which really makes the case
for Donald Trump. Bob Costello ofDavid Hutter and Citron, How are you?
I'm good? Thanks, How areyou? I'm good? Bob?
So all right, go backwards obviouslyto your meeting in April twenty eighteen with
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Michael Cohen. First of all,how did you get retained by him?
Or how did he call you?But really, what was that meeting about
well. Michael Cone and Jeff citronknew each other for about ten years through
two relationships. One they were bothadvisors to Stirling National Bank, and number
two, we represent Columbia Grammar andPreparatory School, which is where Baron Trump
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went to school. It's a prestigiousschool in Manhattan. And Cohen because he
worked for Donald Trump and because Trumpgave money to the school, they put
him on the board for a while, and so Jeff citron knew him there.
So then when Michael Cohne's home andlaw office got raided, Jeff sent
(06:59):
him an email saying, Gee,I'm sorry to see that you're encountering all
these problems. I have a partnerwho was Deputy chief of the Criminal Division
of the US Attorney's Office, thesame office that is executing these search warrants
against you. If you want topick his brain, just give me a
ringk and Cohne responded immediately and askedthat we come up to the Regency Hotel
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and meet him the next day,which was April seventeenth, twenty eighteen,
and we did that. We wentup there, Cone arranged a conference room
on the second floor, and whenwe got there. This guy was totally
manic, marching on one side ofthe conference table, back and forth,
back and forth, back and forth, kind of like the tigers you see
(07:45):
at the zoo, going back andforth, back and forth. He told
us about his legal problems with thesearch warrants and that you know, they
were it was destroying his family,his wife, his kids. He was
going on and on, and hesaid that he was on the roof of
the hotel two nights before and hewas going to jump off and kill himself
(08:05):
because he couldn't handle the pressure thathe knew was coming from whatever this criminal
investigation was. So the purpose ofthis meeting was to ask us to find
him a way out and escape route, as he put So, we went
through the facts of the search warrants, and Michael said that you know,
(08:28):
he hadn't done anything wrong, nocrimes in his past. He said he
was cooperating with the special counsel thatwas Muller, and he was cooperating with
Congress. Only he forgot to tellus that he lied to Congress. And
of course he lied about the factthat he hadn't committed any other crimes before
that, because eventually, about fourmonths later, he played guilty to seven
(08:50):
counts involving taxi medallions and tax fraud, etc. That had absolutely nothing to
do with Donald Trump. But duringthat meeting, because he was asking for
the escape route, and I explainedto him, look, the obvious tactic
here is the Southern District is notgoing after you. They're looking for Donald
Trump. And the way to solveyour legal problems is if you have truthful
(09:15):
information, and clearly they believe youdo. If you have truthful information about
Donald Trump, I can have yourproblem solved by the end of the week.
At which point he said to Jeffand myself sitting there, I swear
to God, Bob, I don'thave anything on Donald Trump. Well,
because I don't take no for ananswer the first time around, I kept
on probing, and for the twohours I probably asked him varieties of that
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question seven, eight, nine moretimes. Every time he said he didn't
have anything on Donald Trump. SoI then switched and said, well.
He kept on saying, why arethey trying to put me in jail for
MDAs. MDA's are non disclosure agreements, and I said, Michael, NDAs
are perfectly legal. They're used inquite a number of Civil Settlements. I
(10:01):
said, there's nothing illegal about that. I said, what, what are
the circumstances about this NDA with StormyDaniels? So he got into the Stormy
Daniels discussion, and he said thata lawyer for Stormy Daniels had contacted him
and that he made the statement thatStormy Daniels was going to claim that she
had sex with Donald Trump unless somebodyeither bought her story or bought or brought
(10:26):
her silence through an NDA. MichaelKhane then said that he decided to take
care of this. I said,wait a second, what do you mean
You've decided to take care of this? I said, this is an allegation
made against Donald Trump. I said, did Donald Trump know anything about this?
No? I said did he participatein this in any way? No?
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I said, well, how didyou take care of this? He
said? It was one hundred andthirty thousand dollars. I said, where'd
you get the money? He said, I said, was it Donald Trump
money? No? Was it fromDonald Trump's corporations? No, any of
Donald Trump's family members, no,friends of Donald Trump? No. I
said where did it come from?He said? I took out a heelock
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loan, which is a home equityloan for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
I said, why would you dosomething like that? He said,
because I knew that any story thatcame out, even though I didn't believe
these allegations at all, it'd beembarrassing, and especially it would be embarrassing
to Milania, said Michael Cone.He said, so, I wanted to
keep this thing secret. That's whyI took out the Helock loan. I
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didn't want Malania to know about this. I didn't want my own wife to
know about this because if I tookany money out of my personal accounts,
since she handles the family finances,she'd know right away. He said.
She'd asked me a hundred questions andI didn't want to answer them. So
the point of all of this wasat the time that Michael Cone was in
(11:58):
a totally suicide idle state, desperatelylooking for a way out. We presented
him with the way out. Ifhe had truthful information on Donald Trump,
all of his legal problems would besolved by the end of the week.
But I expressed to him the importanceof it being truthful information. As I
said, you've never dealt with peoplelike they have in the Southern District of
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New York. These people are veryvery smart. If you attempt to sell
them a bill of goods that's nottrue, they'll catch you in a minute.
I'm telling you that from experience,and I have experienced with this office
now for probably thirty years. Sodon't even let that thought enter your mind.
It's got to be truthful. Butif you have something truthful, and
I kept on pressing him, hesaid, well, I know that there
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was some money missing from the Trumpinaudural ball. I said, well,
is that involving Donald Trump? No, I said, does Donald Trump know
about it? No? I said, then it's useless. Michael, I
said, you can't sell that tothe Southern District of New York in exchange
for immunity. That's what we're tryingto do here. So we spent two
hours going back and forth, andas he's marching on the other side of
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the table, he keeps on stoppingin the middle of a thought and pointing
at Jeff Citron and myself and saying, guys, I want you to understand
I will do whatever the f Ihave to do. I will never spend
a day in jail, and he'dslam his hand on the conference room table.
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This happened probably at least ten times, maybe twenty times during that two
hours. Spontaneous utterance is like that. I mean, we had done nothing
to cause him to make a statementlike that, But he's expressing that even
though he's suicidal and desperately looking fora way out, he doesn't have any
honest, truthful information on Donald Trumpbecause that's the easy way out. But
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at the same time he's saying,I'm willing to do anything in order to
avoid going to jail. Well,he did go to jail, and because
he went to jail names Donald Trump. So right now, in my view,
the guy's on a revenge tour.That's what he's doing. He's made
up stories because since he took careof this, it's very easy to say,
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well, yeah, I took careof the Stormy Daniels thing, and
I told Donald Trump all about it, because it's his word against Donald Trump's
word, and Donald Trump may nottestify. So that's Michael Cohne's scheme.
It's going to fail because he's liedabout so many things that he virtually has
no credibility. When all of thesefacts were presented to the US Attorney's Office
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for the Southern District of New York. They decided to never deal with Michael
Cohne again. Let me just giveyou a quick back. The only reason
I can talk to you about thisis because Cohan waved the attorney client privilege.
The reason for him waiving the attorneyclient privilege was that Cohane was trying
to lessen his sentence on the eightfederal crimes that he had pled guilty to,
and in order to do that,he came down and he told a
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fib to the Southern District of NewYork. He said Rudy Giuliani and Bob
Costello conspired to obstruct justice by tamperingwith a witness, the witness being Michael
Cohne by waving a pardon. Danglinga pardon was the story that they were
giving out to the newspapers under Khane'snose in order to keep his mouth shut.
Well, if you analyze what actuallyhappened. On the very first day
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we met him, we were encouraginghim to cooperate and to give information on
Donald Trump if it was truthful.But he didn't have any truthful information.
So When he went to the USAttorney's office with that, they said,
Michael, in order to investigate this, you're going to have to waive attorney
client privilege. Otherwise Costello want toanswer a single question, he won't be
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able to. So Cone exercised thatright and he waived his attorney client privilege,
which is the reason why I'm inthe middle of all of this right
now, because I can talk aboutthe lies that Michael Cohne told us,
and the fact that he told ussomething completely different from what he's telling the
Manhattan Diay's office and the New Yorkjury. He's Bob Costello or the Rob
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Astrino show here on seven to tenwor so obviously this is this is like
game said in match. I mean, he was horrible last week for the
government. He is a liar,and it was proven he was a liar
again Todd Blanche caught him in anotherline in front of the jury. So
here's the question, though, Bob, next week, does Donald Trump's team
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put you on the stand and totell your story or do they say we
don't need it because he hung himself. Basically, Michael Cohen, well,
you know that's a that's a closequestion, and that's a question that's decided
not by me, but by ToddBlanche and the rest of the people on
that team. But the issue thatthey have to consider is sure, they
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may think that they're in the lead, and they may think that they destroyed
Michael Kohne, but you never knowuntil you get the results from the jury.
That's true minutes too late. Soin a case like this, they
may think that they've already won thisgame by ten to twenty points, but
with a New York jury and DonaldTrump, maybe you have to win by
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fifty. So they're gonna ponder thatover this weekend and decide what they're going
to do. But first they haveto finish the cross examination of Michael Cone
on Monday, and then the NewYork Die's Office gets to redirect Michael Cone
to see if they can salvage thistheir star witness, and I don't think
there's any way they can do that. But at that point then they'll make
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a motion to dismiss the case.The Trump people and this case should be
dismissed. That's a direct verdict directedis that it's called directed verdict? Right?
Excuse me? A directed verdict?Right? But they'd have to ask
Judge Murshaan, who's allowed all thisnonsense in his courtroom to happen. What
do you think the odds are thathe would say, listening to everything that
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he's listened to, what do youthink the odds are that he would not
even send it to the verdict andjust dismiss to the jury and dismiss it.
I think it's slim. Yeah,exactly, unfortunately, because any other
judge would not let this case goto the jury. But R Shun has
already made many instances of reversible error. But my view is that they don't
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care if they lose this case onappeal because that'll probably take place after the
election. Exactly. They simply wantto win right now so that they can
use that as propaganda. And they'renot worried about after the election. And
that's reprehensible because that's not the wayour courts are supposed to work. It's
so true. Well, Bob,I appreciate you coming on and telling your
story. It's a great one.It's a bombshell and it's all true,
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and you know it's exactly and giventhe word of Michael Cohen or Bob Costello
or really anybody else. I thinkthe jury and the rest of the world
would side with you. But whoam I to tell I'm not one of
the twelve in the jury box.That's true, Ye, Bob, agree
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with you? Yeah, I appreciateyou coming on, Bob, I do.
You're quite welcome. All right,A good weekend you too. That's
Bob Costello of David Off Hutcher andsit you on a great law firm.
And what his story, because that'sthe behind the scenes of Michael Cohen and
the state of his mind, andthe fact that he admitted, now to
two people, because there were twopeople in that room, he admitted that
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he had nothing truthful to say,nothing against Donald Trump, none of this
is true, and that he wassuicidal and would do anything. Imagine being
in that position, You'll do anythingto stay out of jail and not lose
your law li like all this stuff. And he couldn't come up with something
until the prosecutor's DA Brad got tohim and basically said, you know,
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I'm sure say what you need tosay. But hopefully that jury, and
there's two judges, two attorneys onthat jury, Hopefully at the very least
they will see through this pathological liar. All right, when we come back,
you know, Donald Trump has acceptedJoe Biden's offer to do two debates
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should have been three normally there arethree. And we'll talk with Frank Farrenkopf,
who is on the Presidential Debate Commissionthat normally runs these. So we'll
talk to him about the debates,what goes into them, and it may
not be their debates to have thisyear. All that and more one eight
hundred three two one zero seven ten. I'll try to slip your calls in
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later two The rob Astorino Show hereon seven ten WR. Rob Asterino on
seven to ten worh baby, comeback, huh, don't go, don't
go. We're here till five,So make sure you stay with us on
seven to ten wor make sure youfollow me by the way on all social
media at rob Astino. And ofcourse, if you wanted to rehear that
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whole interview with Bob Costello, whata that was fantastic, I mean,
what great behind the scenes with MichaelCohen at his worst and great stuff.
If you've missed any of that andwant to listen to it again, go
to seven TENWR dot com click onthe podcast tab of the Rob Ascarino Show,
or of course on your iHeart appon your phone. You could always
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listen to us, and you're gonnawant to listen again after this. I
guarantee you. Of Frank Farrenkopp,who is with me now on seven to
ten WR. Frank was the RNCchair in the eighties and also is the
chair of the Presidential Commission, orthe Commission on Presidential Debates, which apparently
we're going to have but they're notgoing to do. Frank, how are
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you? Oh fine, Rob,I'm good. I'm good. So this
is interesting, right, We normallyhave these debates that you and your team
puts on. Let me let meask you first before we get into what
Biden and Trump are going to doon their own. Take us back to
how these debates actually happen. Inother words, how do you find the
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sites that you select? Do theypay for them? I mean all those
kind of behind the scene stuff ofputting it together. What happens is a
year before the election year. Soin January of twenty three, we set
out to colleges and universities across thecountry who have indicated some interest in maybe
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hosting the debates. We always dothem on the grounds of colleges or universities
as part of our educational purpose.We've done we took over from the League
of Women Voters in nineteen eighty eight. We've done every presidential and vice presidential
general election debates. I want tomake that distinction, rob We have absolutely
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nothing to do with the primary debateseither of the parties. Then we get
in those results from those colleges anduniversities and we have a team of people
experts, cameramen, lighting, sound, etc. They go out and look
at the facilities on these campuses.There also has to be like five thousand
hotel rooms within a certain area,because we sometimes get ten thousand reporters from
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all over the world to cover thesethings, and then they come back to
come back to us. They're limiteddown from there, and then the Secret
Service goes out and checks them.They want to make sure that they can
lock down that, you know,the campus for security purposes. And that's
why you know, I'm sure youhave many listeners who went to Hosta those
where hosts lives close to hospital.Why Hosta has done so many of these
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debates along with Washington University in SaintLouis because the Secret Service love those campuses
from the standpoint of being able toreally maintain security for the candidates and the
people involved. So then we getthem back to the after the Secret Service
has told us what they think,and then we choose the four because we
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do three presidential debates and one vicepresidential debate. At least that's the traditional
way. This year is, youknow, it's sort of a strange political
year, you could say, andwhat has happened along the way long before.
We normally do not talk to anybodyon the campaigns, and we don't
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deal with the Republican National Committee,the Democratic National Committee, or the Libertarian
Party and the de Green Party.Those four parties are automatically on all the
ballots in the United States, allthe state ballots because of the record they
have over the last ten or fifteenyears of every four years being on enough
ballots to get to two seventy,which is the requirements in order to be
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invited to the debate. You mustcomply with the constitutional requirements, which is
you have to be thirty five yearsof age, have lived here for fourteen
years, and you've got to beon enough ballots from state to state to
conceivably get two hundred and seventy electrovotes. Then one more thing happens before
you could be invited is after you'renominated by your party and you win the
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nomination, is we, with thehelp of the Gallop organization, pick the
five what we feel are the strongestpolls out there, and you must average
fifteen percent or higher on those pollsto be invited to participate, And that's
what happens, and we then offerthem. Now, as you know right
now, it's a different world thistime because even we don't have Biden renominated,
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so he really at this point intime, is not officially the candidate
of the Democratic Party. The samething with Donald Donald has not been renominated
by the Republican National Convention. Itcomes first, it'll be in July.
The Democratic convention will be in August, and at that time they officially become
the candidate of those parties. Andthose parties are the ones that are on
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enough ballots to conceivably get to twohundred and seventy electric votes. So that's
the way the process usually works.It hasn't worked that way this time.
Now we name the schools and youknow the dates that we would go with
our four, but trying to wiggleit out together and see if they can
get it done. Rob Astarino Showhere on seven to ten w R.
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Frank Farnkopf is with us from theCommission on Presidential Debates. So, Frank,
you know, the the ire ofRepublicans in a lot of these debates
is that it's sort of liberal moderators. It's kind of slanted. You know,
they're always that the Republicans up therenot only battling the guy who was
left or right, but it's goingto be also i should say, or
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her right, Hillary Clinton. Butit's always slanted. And so how are
the moderators chosen for this? Imean, you know, they wouldn't have
Fox do a debate or Newsmax doa debate, but it always seems to
be the left. And at thistime and this was their choice, CNN
and ABC are going to have thedebates, But who picks the moderators.
Well, let's back up for amoment, because what normally happens is once
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we've we've got everyone on board withthe dates and what's going to happen,
then we come out with what theformat is going to be. And our
format is fundamentally we divide the nineteenminutes into six fifteen minute pods, and
the rules are that the moderator willa week or so ahead of time indicate
what each of the six point fifteenthe subject matter will be in the questions
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dealing with you know, one couldbe foreign policy, one could be education,
to taxes, et cetera. Andthen the rule is the moderator now'll
get to how we do it.I picked them. We'll ask candidate number
one to what's his views on taxes? And he gets two minutes uninterrupted.
The other party can interrupted. Thenafter that the other candidate gets two minutes
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from then honest, the moderator hasthe right to go dig down on both
of the statements. They can arguewith each other. We hope they do.
We like to see the interplay betweenthe two candidates as it goes forward.
Now, the problem with all thatin the first debate last time,
and you must remember who the moderatorwas. Us Wallace was at that time
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with Fox. Yeah that's true,but he's showing his true colors now it's
CNN. Well, remember he wasthe final moderator four years before in the
Hillary Donald and done a great job. But what happened here is Donald at
first broke the two minute rule andinterrupted you know, Biden, and then
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from then on it was out ofcontrol, out of control. So then
in the final debate of four yearsago, I said, well, here's
what we're going to do. We'regonna put in a mute button, and
if somebody speaks when the other person'ssupposed to have the right to not be
interrupted, we'll push the mute buttonand shut off the other person's microphone.
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Now, we never had to useit, and some people have said we've
muted Donald or we muted Byen.No, we didn't. We didn't have
to use it. Just the factthat they knew it was there. They
all complied with the rules. Nowwhat we do with regard picking the moderators,
and you're right, Rob, it'sthe hardest thing we have to do
these days. You know, it'snot like the old days where you had
a Bob Schieffer on CBS who youknew was a guy who as coach as
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you could get, you know,down the middle right and would always do
a good job. Because of what'shappened with the networks, I mean,
you have to look along hard tofind some that doesn't lead towards the Republicans
or lean towards the Democrat more leantowards the Democrats, obviously. But what
we do is we among ourselves onthe Commission, and we've got people who
are experienced with working with the networksand so forth, we come up with
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maybe five six suggestions. And whatwe do is we monitor them. We
monitor what they're doing for two orthree months. Are they trying to get
to the middle, are they tryingto you know, not go one way
or the other? Do what they'resupposed to do as journalists is not be
biased in any way. And thenwe do our best to choose from there
who we're going to use, andwe tell them they're also and this is
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important, they're not fact checkers.They're not fact checkers. In other words,
if candidate number one says something thatis inconsistent with something he said a
week before, it's not for themoderator to say, well, i'd a
minute, candidate number one, you'rechanging your stories. This is a debate.
It should be for the other candidateto do it. And so that's
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the way we go about it.It's tough to get the moderators and choosing
today with the way the you know, when you look now at the American
public's trust in the media, itis really it's the worst it's ever been.
It's in the low twenties. Yep, it is in the low twenties
and well deserved. Yeah, well, no question about it. So that's
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kind of the process that we do. And the reason we were created in
nineteen eighty seven is because historically thecandidates could never agree, could never agree
on what what would happen. Andwe've already seen this. Well CNN,
you know, met with the Bidenpeople, came up with his plan and
Donald accepted it right away. Butthen the question came up, Well,
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Donald said, I want to debateanother debate. They said, no,
no, you can't. You're onlygoing to get this one on one debate
and you can't have Kennedy in it. And so, you know, we're
not here yet. What's going tohappen. We don't know whether or not
their debate is going to go forward. And so the commission, you know,
we're just said we're ready to go. We don't start until September sixteenth,
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would be our first debate. There'sthis June twenty seventh, and again
that's before anyone has won the nominationthe Republican Party of your Democratic Party officially.
So I do think we are Ido agree that the debate should be
earlier than mid October. You know, some of them are getting into mid
October when so many people half thecountry have already voted. And so I
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do agree with the time. Sothat's not the way. But see,
that's not what happened. If yougo back four years. Remember we were
in the virusah and therefore state legislatureswent out and moved back the dates because
people didn't want to line up ayou know, the election day and off
where you could vote by mail,you didn't have to vote in person.
And by the time our first debatelast time we went to the books,
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about nine hundred thousand people had voted. This year. What we did is
we've been born in mind what thedates were, and right now we've got
the sixteenth of September. A keynumber date is a week before September sixth.
It is only on September sixth whenthe final states have all declared who
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will qualify for their ballot. Andremember you've got to qualify for two hundred
and seventy elector votes, so wecan't do anything until that date is over,
So waited one week. The onlypeople who can vote prior to that
first debate, or in the stateof North Carolina, if they early on
apply for a absentee ballot, theycan go in and get the ballot on
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the sixth, a week before,and cast their ballot. But that's it.
Every other state, every other stateis after the first debate. Frank
Farnkoff with us on the Rob AstrinoShow here on seven ten w R.
Let me ask you this. I'msure that because you were the RNC chair
at one point, so obviously you'reRonald Reagan was I was Ronald Reagan's chairman.
Yep. My favorite president and heReagan. When I was in high
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school, Reagan was president and thatwas it. I was hooked. And
I never got to vote for Reaganbecause my first year that I was eligible
was after that I think it waseighty five, so my first one was
for George Herbert Walker Bush. Butlet me ask you this, So,
if there's one thing that you couldchange about your own debates, if you
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do have them, what would itbe? Because it has to be agreed
upon. But if you could justbe King Frank and decrease something different,
what would it be. Well,at this point in time, it's kind
of hard to answer that because wehave made major changes over the years to
make sure that the candidates, youknow, are answering the questions and so
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forth. Originally, if you wereto go back to say the nine eight
when Ronald Reagan first ran for thepresidency against Jimmy Carter and against John Anderson
who was a congressmanho was the thirdparty candidate. But then it was a
moderator and three reporters, okay,and the reporters each got a chance to
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make ask a question. So reporternumber one would hadlong, you know,
worked long and hard on his orher question to show how bright they were
to make it, and they wouldask, and the rules were they would
ask a question of candidate number one, and candidate A number one would have
two minutes to reply. Then theother candidate number two would have thirty seconds
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to reply, and then the numberone would get fifteen seconds more to reply.
Then they would move to reporter numbertwo. But if the candidates haven't
answered the question, reporter number twohas also worked very hard on their question.
They don't want to go back andfollow up and on the question that
wasn't answered by the first reporter.So we eventually changed that. We changed
it at a debate at Michigan State. I'm trying to remember the year.
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I remember it was the year itwas. It was George H. W.
Bush and Ross Perrot was involved thatyear along with Bill Yeah in ninety
two, and what we did forhalf of the debate we did the normal
thing moderator and the three reporters,and then we said let's just do the
moderator for the for the last ofit with the power to drill down and
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make sure that every question is answered. And it was fabulous, and ever
since then it's just a single moderator. Then in Denver, in it was
Obama versus Governor Romney, we madethe last major change was the sixth we've
come up with the six fifteen minutesegments with the ability of the moderator to
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drill down and try to get themthat debate. So we've come a long
long way, a long long wayin changing and trying to perfect. Nothing's
perfect. You never know when someone'sgonna I don't know if you remember in
two thousand where al Gore walked overand stood in front of George W.
Bush when he was sitting on astool in the town hall meeting. I
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mean, so there's some things youcan't control. The Biden people said they
were very angry at the Commission afterwhat happened four years ago, because when
when Trump would have broke over thetwo minute rule, I should have stopped
the debate. That's why I'm goingto have stopped it. Bake, don't
get that's crazy. Oh, youactually should have stopped it. And so
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also last time, we had theCleveland Clinic who was advising us in the
medical things, because you know,we were in the middle of the of
the of the difficulties we were dealingwith virus, and everyone in that hall
was supposed to wear the mask.Well, the family of Donald Trump came
in with masks on, and thenthey took them off, and the Cleveland
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Clinic went and tried to offer themnew masks, and they wouldn't take them
and didn't put them on again.I said to them, what was I
supposed to do? Was I supposedto go and throw them out? I
mean, so you know, youget some nitpicking, but at this point
in time, I think the otherthing, and you and I have talked
about this, I think there aretwo things I get out of these debates.
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Number one is are they answering thequestion so that the voters can determine
where that individual stands on issues thatare important to that person. And the
other is they get a view ofthe of the personality of the person.
I've learned after doing thirty three ofthese things over the last thirty some years,
that the American people would like tolike their candidates, would really like
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to like their candidates, and youget a feeling for their personality and et
cetera. Now, the last twocycles, I mean, when it was
Hillary and Donald, all the pollsset like either one of them. And
right now I think the last pollI saw I had sixty percent of the
people saying they wish there were twoother candidates running. So I don't know
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how you change that, but youknow, we just have to see,
and that I've said this before,if they can do it, if the
candidates can do it on their ownand have to be successful with this,
even though they're arguing like crazy rightnow over where they're going to go for
a third Are they going to doa third debate? Where's the vice presidential
debate going to be, who's goingto moderate? Where they going to stand?
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Are they going to be seated atthe table? Are they going to
walk out? I mean, allthose things have yet to be to be
met. But if they're able todo it, and they come up with
two debates that really accomplish what theAmerican people need, I will salute them.
Can it's easy? Yeah? Canyou lie down in a bed?
Can you have somebody wake you up? Can you have notes? Frank farren
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Kopf, thank you so much forbeing with me today. I appreciate it.
And you've done great work. Andyou know what, something tells me
you still may get a shot athaving a presidential debate this year by the
Commission. So we ain't did yet, you ain't. Yeah, Frank varron
Kopf, thanks so much. Allright, when we come back, I
got to talk to you about HarrisonButker. His speech was terrific. And
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also I caught something in my yardtoday and they're cute, but they're not
cute. I'll tell you what itis. And just a bit I'm rob
Astino here on the rob Astorino Showon seven to ten WR. Seven ten
WR presents the rob As do RenoShow to the gentleman here today. Part
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of what plagues our society is thislie that has been told to you that
men are not necessary in the homeor in our communities. As men,
we set the tone of the culture. And when that is absent, disorder,
dysfunction, and chaos set in.This absence of men in the home
is what plays a large role inthe violence we see all around the nation.
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Other countries do not have nearly thesame absentee father rates as we find
here in the US, and acorrelation could be made in their drastically lower
violence rates as well. Be unapologeticin your masculinity, fighting against the cultural
emasculation of men. That's Harrison Butker, number seven of the Kansas City Chiefs,
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kicksfield goals for a lit. He'sgreat at it, and up until
about now you probably didn't know muchabout him. If you're a casual fan
of the NFL. If you're anNFL fan, obviously you are fantasy football.
Yeah, if you watch the SuperBowl, you know all that he's
one of the best in the league. He's terrific. And so he gave
this commencement address at Benedictine College inKansas, which is a Catholic college,
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and so he is a devout Catholicspeaking to a Catholic audience, and he's
talking about the tenets of Catholicism.And I'm telling you, if you have
not watched this, if you justheard about it, do you say if
a favor YouTube it. Harrison Butkercommencement speech. It's I think twenty two
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minutes long. Watch it. It'sterrific. This is what a commencement speech
should be about. You know,so many times you get all these whoever,
like you know, business leaders,politicians, all these guys and women
standing up there with their little robeson and their caps and just sitting there
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pretending like they know anything, andit's a blah blah blah fest, and
nobody remembers what they said anyway.They try to be funny and they're not.
And he just went right at itand he said, look, this
world is fed up. And itis. And he says, you know,
we've got leaders who have really letus down in our own church,
the Catholic Church. And he said, we've got bishops who basically seeded the
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whole moral high ground and our ownvalues during COVID. They shut us down,
they shut our churches down, andthey didn't speak up, and so
people died without getting the sacrament atthe end, and they died without the
presence of Jesus. And he said, and they're emasculating men, and society
today is telling us that men don'tmatter, fathers don't matter. And he
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went on and on, and hewas really good. And because he was
good, and because he was tellingthe truth, because he poked the bear
on the left, they pounced onhim. And you know what, he
didn't back down. And I'm I'mso happy that the number one selling jersey
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in the NFL this week, numberseven for the Kansas City Chiefs, Harrison
Butker is the number one selling jerseythis week, because there's so many people
out there that want to hear thatneed to hear that, but are happy
that somebody is saying what they feel. That's kind of like Trump. I
mean, Trump is saying all thisstuff that we know it's true. I
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mean, do you honestly think they'reforty eight genders? But the left is
going to tell you they're forty eightgenders there were, no matter. I
don't know how many are this week, but we've got to play along with
their game, and we're tired ofit. And so Harrison Butker, again
to a Catholic audience, as adevout Catholic, was telling them, here,
here's what we believe as Catholics,here's what Jesus tells us, here's
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what's in the Bible. Well,now we've got to go live it.
And by the way, don't letthem tell you not to live your life
the way you should. And soyou know, of course that all the
lunatics on the left went berserk,as they always do. But let me
tell you some about give kudos hereto Whoopy Goldberg, who I can't stand,
and that stupid show the view Ican't stand. But anyway, she
(43:22):
actually stood up for Harrison Buker,and she said, I disagree with everything
he says, but I agree withhis right to say it. And Bill
Maher said the same thing. We'remaking this guy out to be a monster.
He's a Catholic talking about his religion. When did that become a crime.
So every now and then there's afew on the left, and Bill
Maher has been more consistent with thisthat understand what's happening on their side is
(43:45):
dangerous. Right, shut down allspeech, cancel culture, all this,
it's bad stuff. And so Ithought it was a great speech. I
hope honestly, you gotta listen toit. I mean, I know some
people are like, yeah, Iheard something. Do yourself a favor.
Go to YouTube Typen Harrison Butker commencementand watch it and tell me if you
(44:09):
don't agree. You could instant messageme if you'd like, direct message me
all my social media Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. I'm on the mall at
rob Astarino and let me know ifyou disagree. I thought it was unbelievable
a couple of things I saw.And you know, I hate the airlines.
(44:30):
I am so sick of the airlinesbecause they are nickel and diming us
to death. The service is horrible. Jet Blue the worst. Now I
used to love Jet Blue. Theyare atrocious. But anyway, major airlines
finally I agree. I can't believeI'm saying this. Do I have to
say this? Pete bootajeedge I agreewith him on something, the Transportation Secretary,
(44:57):
because the major airlines are now suingthe Transportation Department, which came out
with a rule that said, theseairlines have to have upfront disclosure on all
their add on fees when you goto buy a ticket. So how many
times have you done what I've done? You go to Expedia or you go
directly to Delta dot com or whatever, and you put in your flight and
(45:19):
blah blah blah, and it's like, oh, that's pretty good, fair
ninety nine dollars. Let me getthat, and you click it on ninety
nine dollars and then all of asudden boop, oh, yeah, well
we forgot. It's sixty dollars.If you want to actually check in your
luggage, it's thirty dollars. Ifyou're bringing a carry on, it's ten
dollars. To breathe our air it'sfifteen dollars to take a pee in our
(45:43):
bathroom. And by the way,if you want a seat, yeah here,
it's fifteen for this one. Andyou don't know what the hell you're
paying until the end when you addup it's like, wait a minute,
that ninety nine dollars seat is twohundred ninety nine dollars. So they're saying
you've got to be upfront with yourcharges, and so they're fighting it.
The airlines are fighting it. AndSouthwest Airlines that's the only one that,
(46:04):
by the way, that don't chargefor luggage. Maybe you might not get
to where you're going, but SouthwestAirlines doesn't charge for you to fly and
pay for your luggage. But they'realso joining the lawsuit because to me,
that's like, Okay, at somepoint they're gonna do this and and and
they won't hold out anymore because itis big money. You know how much
(46:29):
money they make now they make acollective seven billion dollars in baggage fees.
It's crazy. Did you see thenew uniforms that the Giants are gonna be
wearing for their one hundredth anniversary.It is hideous, I don't. I
mean, it looks like a Divisionthree team that picks something out of like
(46:51):
the gym closet or something. It'sit's in the middle of the jersey.
It's blue with eight stripe separating theblue and the white number and then red
above it and below it, andit's just it's, I don't know,
it's horrible. You know, theNFL allows now you get two different alternate
(47:12):
jerseys that you could wear up toa maximum of three times each season.
And so the Giants, you know, they got their ninety eighty throwbacks,
which I like. But now theseteams have these alternate jerseys, which to
me are just disgusting. I can'tstand any of them. Just wear your
traditional jerseys or your throwbacks. Alot of us like the throwbacks because it
(47:32):
brings us back to the time whenwe, you know, we were growing
up. But either way, theGiants have this horrible red jersey that you'll
see sometime this year. So lastly, the you know, in our yard,
we have this pergola and underneath itit's like sort of wood, like
(47:53):
a wood deck. But underneath thewood deck, we've noticed that they're like
shuffling going along and some wood isbroken up, and it's like and we
like to sit out there at nighttimebecause we have one of those little fire
pits, and we'll sit out therewith friends. But like, who wants
to be out there knowing there's somethingunderneath you? I don't know. I'm
(48:15):
not gonna do that. So anyway, my wife, of course, what
do you do? Amazon The nextday, here comes a trap to my
front door. So she puts thistrap out in the yard and she throws
some chicken and cheese or whatever theheck is in there. And like the
last five days since we've had itup, nothing every morning, wake up
nothing. This morning, I wakeup, boom, there it is and
(48:37):
I'm like, what is that?Is that a bunny? What is it?
And I go out there look andthere it is a raccoon. And
these things look cute. But whenI got close, it just looked at
me and jumped. I must havejumped about thirty feet backwards. And I'm
like, you want me to pickup that cage, put in the car,
(49:00):
drive it ten miles north and letit out. Are you freaking kidding
me? I ain't going near thatcage. So you had to call a
trapper in today who took that raccoonsomewhere? Anyway, Thank you for being
with me. Listen to the podcastif you'd like forward it to other friends.
We are back next Saturday, asalways at four pm. Make sure
(49:21):
you listen watch me Saturdays on Newsmaxfrom one to three. Then I walk
over here and have fun. Thankyou to Bruce, thank you to Noah,
thank you everybody for listening. It'sgoing to well. This hour of
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