July 5, 2024 • 42 mins
Doug Gottlieb and Dan Beyer filling in for Dan and the guys as they discuss how different college football is going to be this year. Doug and Dan break down the beach football game that Tom Brady participated in at Michael Rubin's White Party. Plus, Beyer takes Doug and the crew through a game of "The Day After".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Welcome in. He's Dan Byro. I'm Doug Gottlieb Man. I
hope you had a great fourth July. I know I
did up here in Green Bay. Of course, Dan in
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Los Angeles a little cookout on actually had somebody give
me a grill, which I like, of all the gifts
you can give a man. To give somebody a new grill,
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turn it into slider Sunday. Great idea. We do family
dinner at at my house every Sunday. So I had
no idea that. Apparently frozen pizzas over like an open
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flame is a big thing in this part of Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Are you were this, Yeah, yes, I've never really partaken
in that sort of thing, but oh, you will, Yeah,
oh well you will. Jacks is you know a popular
brand that you think.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yes, that's what we're doing. We're doing Jack's I by
popular demand. Last weekend we did I made, I made tacos,
made some carne style for the boys as well. We
did we did tacos. This week, we're gonna have to
do slider Sundays. But we're also going to do Jack's
Pizza over an open flame. I had no idea that
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these are. I was like, this is seven days ago.
I learned of this. Anyway, Ohpe, you had a great weekend.
I I this is the beginning of the new sports calendar,
the new sports year. This is it's like you reset
your now, you reset your your mental calendar. And look
the NFL. I don't think it's going to look that
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different this year. You know, Aaron Rodgers switched teams last year.
Granted he only played four games. It'll still be an
adjustment because he hasn't really played with the Jets. But
outside of that, not a lot of massive change, right right,
I mean, Saquon Barkley changes teams, but not a ton
of massive change the NBA. Next year, Lebron's same team
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will see if Kevin Durant's same team, Steph Curry kind
of you go through it. The stars there, Paul George
is the biggest star to switch teams to this point,
not a ton of different. I do think college basketball
will be back in at least much more of our
our focus because Cooper Flag is going to play a duke.
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He's as highly touted a prospect as there has been
coming into college basketball in a long long time. Right.
The elimination of the G League ignite as well as
NIL is getting a better quality of incoming player to college.
We still have ye COVID year seniors, so I don't
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know what it looks like. I do think that that
duke being back kind of a top the rankings and
people paying attention because they have, you know, since Zion,
Cooper Flag is the most known prospect to come to college.
But college football, to me is the one that you
want to talk about massive change. You have conference realignment
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combined with with the new college football playoff, and yeah,
I'll throw in the fact the video game is back
as well. Yes, but we have been waiting our entire
lives for a college football playoff, our entire lives. And
here's if you're I'm not talking down to I'm just
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edgy you. If you're thirty or younger, just see you
understand Like, we've had split national champions in this sport
in this century, two teams that can rightfully call themselves
national champions. Like, how does that work? It? Somehow we
allowed it to be for a long time. Bowl games
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have been previously diminished. Now they're completely diminished. Anything outside
of the ones that decide national championship. There is no
more Rose Bowl because there is no more Pack ten.
If there's no Pac ten or Pac twelve, there can
be no more rosebul Will they play a game in
the Rose Bowl and call it the Rose Bowl? Sure,
it's not the Rose Bowl? And then we actually have
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a College Wall playoff? And oh yeah, by the way,
you know Cal and Stanford won't play USC and UCLA.
That's weird. Arizona and Arizona State are now in the
Big Twelve. That's weird. Texas and Oklahoma tied the hip,
but Tech Oklahoma and Oklahoma State that was the longest.
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It's a continuous rivalry game played in all of college football.
It is, at least for the time being, no more.
That streak is broken. So that's a lot of change
all in one year. We've had conference realignment, We've had
incremental change of the BCS, and then the college football
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playoff with the fourteen playoff. But to have all of
this at one stand, it's a lot of change.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, it's pretty enormous. You're talking about college basketball and
Cooper Flag and there's even going to be conference realignment there,
but it just does not hit like it does with
college football. And this season I think is just going
to be even more strange or more unique because I
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don't think the schools, I don't think that the conferences
really understand what some of the unintended consequences are going
to be with your schedule and how you move on
in the future. Does it pay to play non conference
games against stronger opponents? Will that be used against you
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if you have a loss. Will it help you if
you lose a game and you're compared to another team
that maybe didn't have as strong of a non conference schedule.
Those things are all brought in. When you had the
four team usually it didn't matter as much. Sometimes even
head to head if you were playing one of those
top games didn't necessarily matter. Now I think it's gonna
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matter a lot more because of the variety of teams
that could be available for some of those spots. But yeah,
I think that there's a lot in play that being
one of them is I think teams have no idea
and how they're gonna want to schedule how they're going
to play things out because they have no idea on
how the bracket is actually going to look when you're
taking you know, other at large teams if you will.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's interesting. Well, the other part to it is, yes,
you don't know how to schedule, but because you don't
know how, it's I mean, the assumption is the better
the team's schedule, the more it's gonna help you. But
I'm with you, and then you have the the other
part to it, which is you've already had many of
these games scheduled for years in advance, and in some
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of the games that you had scheduled for years in
advances are now in your conference. Like the whole thing
is just sure, it incredibly incredibly strange.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And there's there's situations too, which isn't foreign, but we've
seen rivals who are in the same conference but they're
not on the conference schedule. So they're gonna play a
non conference game even though they are in the same conference.
That has happened now with these expanded you know, with
the expanded leagues. And I believe that there's an instance
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or two in the ACC and I can't remember the
schools exactly that I employed, but it'll be a non
conference game for two teams in the ACC. So that's
something that's even even weird and unique to watch. You'll
still the College Football Playoff ranking schools. But even to
that point, Doug, like, if you really want to get
like like into the weeds on it. If are you
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gonna set up seeds so they're rematches? Are you gonna
have it try to avoid rematches? Well, what about if
it's a rematch for one team that has a buye
if they win and not for another. How do you
set up the bracket that way? What's fair? What's not fair?
There's just so many things that you have no idea
about that we may have a better idea at the
end of the season once it all plays out, But
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going into it's you're basically going in blind.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, I think it's interesting. I think there's a bunch
of levels that are interesting to me the schools that
are I think the school that is the most, the
one to pay attention to the most is Oklahoma. I
mean it's Oklahoma because Oklahoma was so completely and thoroughly
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dominant during their time in the last twenty years in
the Big Twelve. To go from that to what I
think is a really really tough slud tough sledding. It's
just tough sledding, you know. But I again, I could
be wrong, because they found a way to win games.
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One was the Big Eight to the Big Twelve through
different coaches, right, you know, ever since ever since they
hired Bob Stoops in ninety nine, it's been twenty five
years of brilliance. They've had the one off year here
or there, right, But to go from Bob Stoops to
Lincoln Riley to Brent Ventables. You know, he had his
first year, we lost his recruiting class and lost his mojo,
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but you know, did get it back to some extent
last year. I think Oklahoma is the one because you know,
Texas was never really a Big twelve school and they
joined the Big Twelve and they're part of it. I
just again, I personally think business was good for both
of those schools. I don't understand, and I know why
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Texas kind of triggered this and started this. I know
the thinking of Chris Delcante, and I understand, but I
think people most like seeing when you win, and those two,
those two programs, they're just at such a financial advantage
to everybody else in the Big twelve, even if you
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added schools in the Big twelve. I just think it's
a mistake. I think they're now just one of the
fish in the biggest pond in college football.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's funny because I'm not obviously as close to the
situation or that school as you are, just because of
where you went and the rivalry that is. I looked
at it as I wondered if Oklahoma actually had an
advantage in the SEC this year, because I feel like
the Texas conversation is so overpowering, especially for what we
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think Texas could be of making the playoff last year.
Yours is back arch manning is there that I wondered
if it would benefit Oklahoma going into the new league,
if it would benefit them at all for kind of
flying under the radar. I get what you say on
a on a you know, a grand scheme of things
and how it's going to work out. But even just
like sliding in this year, I wondered if maybe the
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pressure was off a little because when we're talking about
schools changing, I just feel like Texas is so much
of that conversation for the SEC.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, but but I mean I want you to think
about think about this. Okay, you're you're Oklahoma, and they've
always played a pretty good non conference slate. You know, Temple, Tulane.
You know, obviously they do play Houston, which is now
a Big twelve school, but one that it's not like
they come in flying in.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, they played Ohio State years back, you know, games against.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They played Notre Dame. They challenge themselves. Their SEC schedule
starts with Tennessee at home and at Auburn. Then they
got Texas in Dallas, then South Carolina at home, and
they go to Ole miss somehow. You throw Maine in
there where you're going to get all the get you know,
that's the get right game. Uh. Then you reinvigorate your
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rivalry with Missouri from from back in the Big Eight
in Big twelve days. Then you got Alabama coming in.
Then you end up at LSU. Like your road trips
are Ole, Miss L s U and Auburn, right, my
missing any old Miss L s U, Auburn and Columbia
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and in Missouri. Like wow, that's that's a that's a wow.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Sure, But wouldn't be any better if it was Tuscaloosa,
you know, Athens, Knox Mill.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
No, no, no, I mean like you know, like send
us to Stark Bull. I mean it's not like it's
an easy place to get a win. But sendmon to Kentucky,
Semi to Vanderbilt, sen me to STARKFLL first year, Like,
get me going. But what what my point is? You know,
it's they've they've made a nice little They've made a
nice little there's a cottage industry of pointing out that
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Lincoln Riley didn't want to be in the SEC. He's,
of course, why would you want to be in the
SEC when you have a program that's they judge them
if you don't win ten games in Oklahoma, I've had
a bad year. You're not winning ten games with that schedule.
The years of ten of winning ten games are gone.
Like you'll have a one off yere hopefully, you know,
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if you're Brent Benables're just sitting there going like, man,
we got to get it all right, got to get
it all aligned, you know, get the non conference. They're
not going to lose any of those non conference games.
So I mean, look, you win eight, that's a hell
of a year. But just having that mental adjustment made,
especially when you know people it doesn't matter if the
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level of competition is way better, it's still just a
hard mental adjustment for people to go like, wait, seven
wins is a good year. Eight wins is a good year.
That's really hard.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I think it's a really good point as well when
you compare it to the other changes that are being made.
Now you think that Oklahoma's the most intriguing school and
all of this, And I don't fault you that. I
think you can make a great argument for it. I
actually think it's Oregon because I think Oregon can be
really good in the Big ten. I'm just curious on
how it all plays out. But to your point, you
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just laid down a gauntlet in the SEC, which SEC
fans have been talking about for year after you know,
year after year after year after year. When I say
this to you for Oregon's schedule, and not to make
its schedule radio, but I'm just telling you it's not
going to hit the way that Oklahoma's just did. You're
home against you or at UCLA to open up home
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against Michigan State, huge one against Ohio State. Then at
Purdue home against Illinois, at Michigan home against Maryland, at
Wisconsin home against Washington. Now you got some. You got
Ohio State, Michigan, and Washington on your schedule right there.
It's the others that don't hit like the schools that
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you mentioned, you know like And that's the difference to it.
Not saying that Oregon's gonna cake walk through all those games,
but they should be. They should be winning those games.
It is different because in the Big Ten, when you've
had Michigan and Ohio State, sorry, there were lulls, there
were there were lulls in the schedule, and there are
games that not that you would go through the motion,
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but you're just gonna end up winning because you're gonna
end up winning. And in the SEC I don't think
you can really say that well.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
When you had when you had, I mean, and budget
isn't everything right, Texas has not been. It's a the
all time upset in college sports is that Texas up
until last year was an utter disappointment in football into
Big twelve, despite the fact that their budget was at
least two x of most everybody in the league. But
Oklahoma was right there with them. They weren't. They were
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not that far behind. And to spend that much money
and that many resources and have that much history, like
you're at an advantage. Sure the games, you know, you're
at ninety percent of the time you have better players,
better resources than the opponent. That just doesn't occur now
when you're in the SEC Oregon. What's interesting, You know
a lot of people talk about the Big the Pac
twelve teams, you know, going out going to the Midwest
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or maybe even going out east if you play if
you play Rutgers and the weather. I mean, the truth is,
it's kind of a misconception. First of all, it's not
like the weather's great in Oregon when you play in
Washington or you're playing the Polue spec when they're in
the in the in the PAC twelve. But but maybe
more importantly, the travels a bear. Okay, but keep in mind,
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the Pac twelve was not a bus league, right, it
was a people would fly down to go to the
LA schools outside of that, like you gotta get an
airplane for everywhere you're going. It's it's not a bus league.
It's not the you can't Illinois, Indiana, Indiana, Purdue like
you can fans all live around the same place as
they can drive to those. That's you're definitely losing that.
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That's different. But the weather wise, you're playing like one
game in November in the Midwest at most, like let's
let's not overbur now. The style of football is different,
and there is. It is a tough, rugged league, but
it's they have not been as invested in nil throughout
the entirety of the league like they are in the SEC.
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The caliber athlete is a little bit better in the SEC.
And the big question is, you know, and Oregon, remember
when Oregon was remade a couple of staffs ago, it
would they became the tough, rugged team up front in
the Pac twelve as well as having the speed at
the skill positions. Maybe not like Chip Kelly era, but
a little bit different. So I'm with you. I think
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Oregon translates really well. The other part to it is,
you know you're bringing I mean, and this is hard
because Deshaun Foster is a high school teammate of mine.
He was a freshman while I was a senior in basketball,
Like we've known each other forever. I love Deshaun, But Ucla,
I mean that's they're gonna be the La Chargers of
college football. Like their stadium is going to be full
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every road game, every home game in the Pac twelve,
only there'll be a road team in their home stadium.
Sure that's a hard one. Yes, yes, So I'm I'm
with you on on Oregon. I think that transition could
be a little bit better. So I don't know, it's
it's a fascinating, fascinating I think the thing that bums
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me out the most is if we had one or
the other, I would feel better about it. But if
I just wish now that we have the College twelve playoff,
we had all the old league's reset, because then it
would have been perfect. Yeah, right, if you have if
you had the five leagues you had previously, then you
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have the five league champions and they play their conference
championship game, and you have five auto bids, and then
whatever the sixth best league is they get an auto bid,
and then the next six we decide based upon you know,
the SEC probably gets two or three, the Big ten
probably gets the second one, the ACC probably gets the
second one, the PAC twelve probably gets the second one,
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the Big twelve probably gets a second one. Like but
they were about seve.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
The other thing about it, Doug is and I agree
with you. I kind of wish it was the old way.
I don't think that we're done because the ACC is
just standing there and maybe their grant of rights is
so ironclad that there's not going to be change. But
it's looking at the Big Ten schedule, people will ask me, hey,
does this school play that school? And I don't remember,
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because there were two Big Ten schedules sent out. There
was the one with only US at UCLA. Then when
Oregon and Washington ended up, you know, joining the league,
then they had to develop a whole new schedule in
schools that would play UCLA aren't playing them anymore. And
so like this stuff changes and likely at some point
will change again. I just don't know. It probably won't
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be as drastically as it is entering this year, but
I do think that it is forthcoming, no question.
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It's Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio with Dan Byrom
Doug Gottlieb. I'm sure you were scrolling last night and
you're sitting there and you're like, Okay, Tom Brady's doing
what so last night? Byer, I didn't get the invite.
I'm sure you did, and you just kind of blew
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it off. But what's the guy's name, the rich guy
that has the party that flies everybody in?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Michael Rubin?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Michael Rubin. I can't help but when I think of
Michael Rubin, I think of the legend of Ricky Bobby right,
where Sebastian Baron Cohen he plays the French driver Lubin, Right.
I just that's all I can think of when I
hear Michael Ruben's name. So he has the all white
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party and Tom Brady's out there slinging it on the
beach with some real football players, and he's a retired
football player. I don't know, go ahead, it was, it was.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It was really weird. And when I watched the video,
has a couple of guys out there having some fun
playing some catch on the beach. And then I read
the article and these are these are two paragraphs back
to back from Bleacher Report on this story. You ready
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for this? Rapper Quavo was also in attendance, and the
competitors were seen playing a tackle style of beach football,
with Rubin joining in as well. Then it says Brady
looked like he had not lost much ability since hanging
up his cleats. Following Yeah, he delivered several impressive spirals
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to his teammates and showed why he was able to
capture seven Super Bowl titles during his illustrious career.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
This is that an onion story, an actual sports.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
This was the author?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I don't it was. It was from the Bleacher Report,
I don't. I hope that writer was being ironic. I
hope so as well. But they are back to back
sentences like this is. And by the way, it like
it's one of those things that CJ. Stroud was there
as well, so it wasn't like Brady was the only
other quarterback. But I would hope that Brady would look
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the part playing on the beach throwing too. It's Jason
said out routes to Travis Scott like I would hope
that they that Brady's passes would look better than the
routes that Quavo was running in the sand. By the way,
some of them in their full not even beach clothes.
Brady was Brady looked the part, but some looked like
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they were working out in the clothes that they wore
to the party.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
So many questions did they Obviously all of them had
to go back and shower in Ruben's Polt mansion before
rejoining a white party. We've all been to a party
where we're like sweating and uncomfortable. That's bad. And I
think that there's no way Tom Brady like volunteered to
do this. I think that they got so much love
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from the social media last year with just the pictures
from the party, you know, the who's who, And this year,
I think Ruben is like, let's take it up a notch.
Let's do video of actual football on the beach in
front of my mansion, and the sporting world and the
celebrity world will go nuts over this, and it just
looks concocted and phony. I know Tom Brady didn't want
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to do this, but he just couldn't along with it.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It looked like that. Remember the Brett Favar Wrangler ad, Yes,
where he's like where he's out with a bunch of
randos just throwing the football and there's a dog in
a truck and you're like, yeah, I don't that doesn't happen.
Nobody comes up to Brett far AND's like, hey, man,
let's go play some Footballlet's still throw the rock around.
Well then, And by the way, Berette fav if you
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if you track him down in his tractor today, he
can still spin it too. Like they're professional athletes.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Nobody can speak to this more than you. Dog. You
have played at a high level of a sport. I'll
tell you my experience. Okay, after I got down with
high school, I had to start paying to play baseb
I played in an adult baseball league, and being in
southern California, you have this massive pool of former pro players.
And you would go to a pro player, but him, Man,
I do the Sunday adult league. You want to come
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out and pitch, you know, for us, And they would
be like, no way, Like I've done that. I've played
at the highest level. I don't need to do this recreationally.
And that's what I was thinking of. Like when they
went to Tom about that, he probably had to roll
his eyes and he's like, all right, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I don't know though, because he's in a little bit
of a weird space right, Like, look, he's on social
there's times in which you're like, he's on the boat
with his kids, and you're like, I like that, Like
that's like regular dude stuff. But he's clearly trying to
figure out how much attention he still wants, right Like,
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he still quite obviously wants the attention. He wouldn't be
doing the TV thing unless he wanted the attention because
he does not need the money. It's a lot of money,
but he does not need the money. So I'm with you. Yes,
I'm sure there's part of it. Part of it is
Tom's probably just like, okay, sure, did it feel good
to him?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It probably felt lame as hell, like what what are
we doing? You want me to do? What? Like? Okay,
the thing that I was thinking of? Who is the
running back Robert Edwards? Yes? Yes, do you remember the
Robert Edwards saying Jason.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I do was a Was that a Pro Bowl event?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yes? So? And for people don't remember. And this is
honestly why we've worked together a long time and we're
all kind of like minded, same age. He's Dan Byer,
I'm Doug Gottlieb, JA Stu. Jason Stewart's our producer of
The Doug Gottlieb Show daily three to five Eastern. Of
course we have an hour podcast. Just download that whenever
you want. This is Dan Patrick Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. There was a it only lasted a year.
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It wi'll last a year because of Robert Edwards. That
they had the Pro Bowl and then they had a
a beach football game for like rookies and second year guys.
I want to say that part to it is just
my memory. I haven't looked it up. I don't remember.
But Robert Edwards was a running back for the New
England Patriots and he planted and his it's one of
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those injuries that only I like to watch on repeat,
where his knee and legs spun completely around and the
rest of his body did not, and he was literally
never the same, never the same as a football player.
I don't know if he ever played again in the NFL.
He probably played like a little bit where you know
one of those hey, we stitched him back up together
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and he was he was okay, but it was it
was bad. And I was sitting there watching this thing,
going like, what if one of these idiots, like tere's
his knee at the White party playing sand football with
Tom Brady, like of all the things. That's that's where
my brain go was like, oh, please, don't let anybody
get hurt. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Robert Edward Travis Scott's camouflage pants may try to prevent
an injury, like those that he was wearing. There were
other people, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Couldn't see so because it was camo, try to soficult.
I couldn't see at all.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
That's the other. The other thing about this is I
know OBJ was there, but we found out that Micah
Parsons was there. Damar Hamlin was there.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Mar Hamlin had an interception. That's what I saw. Mar
Hamlin intercepts Tom Brady, like what.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
But doing again, none of these guys are Brady's age, Like,
they're not even they're not even as peers. They're like
from a younger generation, which is also like odd if
you just even going to any party where if everybody's
ten years younger than you, like you feel a little
(28:41):
out of place. It's not like you can't get by
without stuff, but it was just it was a unique
point where like, hey, here's Tom Brady's turning, you know,
forty seven this summer, and everybody else is in their
twenties and thirties. It's just yeah, it was just it
was odd seeing it. But Brady did dress the hard
I will say that he did, you know, look like
(29:02):
a guy who was ready to play some nice, casual
beach football where I'm not sure everybody else was.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, that is a weird thing in a party, right,
like where you walk in and everybody's ten, fifteen, twenty
years younger than you're.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
You're like, you can make it work, right, Maybe it.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Doesn't make it fun. No, like all the references, you know,
all my John Hughes movies references out the window. Forget
about Caddy Shack. I mean, you can't even do. There's
so much you can't do, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I wonder what Malie Cooker is going to think about
Michael Parsons playing in a sand football game on the
fourth of July, let alone having the podcast that he
didn't love Parsons having.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
That was a weird one. That's a weird, especially when
he's on your team, Like you're gonna why would you
just not tell Michael Parsons that, Why would you air
that publicly?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Do it on his podcast? Yeah, that's that's what he
should have done Parsans podcast. Yes.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Side note, by the way, Travis Scott, who was catching
the out pattern from Brady. I just revealed on our
daily show recently that Travis Scott is not his name,
and I find that to be so weird because I
always thought that of all these hip hop artists that
(30:22):
that have like two and three different names, I thought
Travis Scott was the one guy that just kept to
his name. And then you look further into it, and no,
he took like an uncle's name and then the actual
first name of Kid Cuddy and he put him together
and his name is completely different. I need to look
that up. But Travis Scott is just such an unusual
(30:44):
name to choose as a as a stage name, just
in case the listener didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I thought it was probably like his middle name was Scott,
but he just then as a performer, used it as
his last name.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
His full name is jos Berman Webster, Jock Berman Webster.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
That is a curveball.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah the world right.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Now, here's the thing, we hear Webster. Here's here's the
here's a perfect example of our age. We hear Webster.
We think of the TV show Webster with the with
Emmanuel Lewis.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yes, ma'am, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
There's no way that h and then Papadoccas. What was
the George Papadokas. Is that who the former football player was? No?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
No, no, no, it was Alex Carris. But Eric I think
that was the name of the family.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Was Okay, Alex Carris was the football player.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
And then it was and Benson wasn't the butler in Webster?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
No, Benson was Benson? Benson was the butler in a
TV show? But right there was Webster was the co
And here's here's one when if you really watch the show,
wasn't Webster the one where now Bob Uker was also
in Webster?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
No was Belvidere was So you're a conflating show, am I?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Oh yes, wait, so mister Belvidere, Benson and what was
in Webster? Three different shows?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay? Which one I was a Webster? The one that
the house they lived in had all these kind of
secret passages.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Isn't that silver Spoons?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Well he is. There was like a like a dumb
waiter at the Webster house.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
I believe, Yes, Oh, you're right. I think we've already
done this before.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Webster was one of the secret passageways. We've we've confirmed.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That that that always that that that to me was
actually my biggest reason to watch that show because I
wanted that house.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
But Silver Spoons was the one with the train and
the video games.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Right, Richie rich Yes, uh, and that was Rick Rick Schroeder,
Ri Rick.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Schroter, Fonso Roberto was in that. But also now, as
an adult and as someone who has a young child,
I would have kicked that train track out of my
living room, as fat like. It is bad enough to
try to jump over smaller train tracks and dinosaurs, to
have one actually split your entire living room completely impractical.
(33:19):
There was that thing would have been gone day.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
One, okay. But so the bigger point here is not
that you would have kicked that train, okay, or that
we conflated. It's that all of these TV show references
from Silver Spoons to extends into Webster to what was
the other one, mister Belvidere, and then of course the
show of all shows was Different Strokes. Right. If you
(33:46):
walk into the White Party and you reference any of
these shows as Tom Brady, no one else in the
White Party gets it.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And if you can't have that conversation, I just I
don't know how much that it's just not fun. Oh
it's just not fun.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, I agree with that. And it almost feels like
two of like you invite a comedian over, like tell
some jokes. Hey, Brady's over, Let's play football, like play
any other sport, play basketball, do it whatever. But the
last thing that you'd probably want to do is go
and throw passes on the beach. Unless it was just
(34:24):
for the Graham, that could be the other reason.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I think it was for the Graham.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
He likes the It was a social media concoction, and
that's what I couldn't stand.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
But according to Bleacher Report, he showed a lot of
the skills that led him to seven Super Bowl titles
throughout his career.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Who wrote that as I seriously, I want to know
who wrote that.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
There's a name atop the article.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I don't know the guy, all right, poor guy, he's
sitting there going like what you wanted me to? They
just want me to write a little.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Blurry yeah exactly. This is the thing so bad enough
I had to write this story. Now I'm getting criticized
for it.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Hey, you're getting you want to clicks, You're getting clicks.
So I'm Doug Gottlipe's Dan byer D.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
You know, what's the fourth of July. But I need
you to write a story about Tom Brady throwing football
passes on a beach. I know this is supposed to
be your day off, but if you could write it
for us, that'd be great. Things.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Well, he was gonna write on Joey Chestnut at the
Eating Thing, and then Joey Chestnuts dot you know, so
he had to move to the White Party. So, uh,
what the What are some of the most memorable day
after in sports? Day after in sports? What happened the
day after the big Day? We'll get that next.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
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Perfetts on the Ones and two's hoping all of you
had a safe and happy holiday and you have a great,
great weekend with family, with friends and dabbling in sports
as well. And it's it's really interesting how Dan's brain works,
because my brain kind of works this way as well.
You know, woke up to a house full of like
dishes and like, oh god, when I get back from work,
(36:27):
I hope somebody has covered that. I just I need
the I need the genie to come in and clean
everything up. But that day after something really cool, sometimes
it's not that much fun, which is kind of a leaddown.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Right, Yeah, yeah, it is that.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
That's kind of what spawned this idea of a game.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
It's just, you know, I feel bad for July fifth,
because how in the world do you top July fourth?
And there are a lot of great moments in sports,
and we are trying to figure out if anybody actually
topped or came near to topping their greatest accomplishments. And
after one round of this game, Doug, you lead one
to zero to zero, but there's time for Chris Purfett
(37:10):
and Jason Stewart to pull even. It's round number two again.
If you're just joining us, I'll give you a monumental
moment in sports history, and the guys have to pick
what happened the next day? How did that person fare?
We're doing an NBA version here and we're gonna start
with Jason Stewart here, then Chris, and then Doug. You'll
(37:33):
get the last pick of these three. Here are your
three categories. Be like Mike Bryant, Gumbo or Simon Lebron
Which category would you like? Again? In honor of Fritzy
and trying to be creative with some of this stuff,
we've come up with these categories. Be like Mike Bryant,
Gumbo or Simon Lebron.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Oh Man, Simon Lebron is a great one. Yeah, let's
go with Simon Lebron.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
All right. Lebron Ja scored sixty one points on March third,
twenty fourteen. It was his highest scoring game as a professional.
Did so against the Charlotte Bobcats in a win for
the Heats again March third, twenty fourteen. Within five points?
How did Lebron fare? On March fourth of twenty fourteen?
(38:21):
So if you're within five points of his point total,
you're gonna get the point in this one.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Okay, I'm gonna give you a couple extra stats too.
I'm gonna give it stat line. It's it was twenty seven,
eight and six.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I don't know about the eight and six, but you
got in right under the line, just twenty two points.
As the heat fell to the Dwight Howard and James
Harden led Houston Rockets one oh six to one oh three.
That was the day after Lebron had his sixty one
point effort that one. Yeah, he was right on it.
Five points, twenty two points, twenty seven rule. Yes. I
(39:00):
actually felt that was a little strict earlier, which allowed
Doug to have that one nothing lead because.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
He was corrected here. You may have over corrected here. Okay, respectfully,
I got it, all right, It's close. I guess what
was missing was the tone was from I thought from
Jason was he had a good, solid day, And I
think the tone from what you're reading is, yeah, he
wasn't that good and they lost the next time.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, yeah, they had a clunker against the Rockets. All right.
Chris Purfett, be like Mike or Brian Gumbo.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I do like some Gumbo, Brian Gumbo.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
All right. Kobe Bryant scored eighty one points against the
Toronto Raptors on January twenty second, two thousand and six.
By the way, the same day the Seahawks beat the
Panthers in the NFC Championship Game to go to their
first ever Super Bowl. Kobe went to twenty eight for
forty six from the floor. Five days later is next game,
January twenty seventh, two thousand and six. How did Kobe
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Bryant fare? Chris Purfett?
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I am terrible, terrible at basketball stats. They just do
not stick.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Give me a point total and we'll see how it works.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
All right, I'm gonna say he went. He probably had
let's say fifteen points.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Okay, fifteen points. He had a little bit more than that.
He actually had thirty, but that wasn't even half of
the eighty. He had seven of twenty two in an
overtime win over Golden State, but it did take him
overtime to get those thirty points. So no points for
Chris Purfett. All right, Doug, you could take the lead.
You get be like Mike Michael Jordan scored sixty three
points on April twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six, and a
(40:38):
game two loss in the playoffs. In Boston won thirty
five to one thirty one. What did Jordan do two
nights later on April twenty second of nineteen eighty six,
within five points?
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Okay, I know he had. I know he had. There
was a three game series, it was. It was a
three game series, and I remember he had one game
where he had nineteen, he had one game where he
had sixty three, and he had one game where he
had forty nine. But I don't know the order of it.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
What you want I want to go with, I'm.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Gonna say I think he had forty nine.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
He had nineteen points in a loss at home. Oh
it's so close, Doug. The Celtics took care of the
Bulls that are all forty.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Ninety game one, Yeah, sixty three in Game two and
nineteen and game three.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Correct, I got that. But hey, kudos on you for uh.
I'm surprised he didn't just split the difference. But then
you wouldn't have been close either way.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
You know, Michael Jordan overrated because he got swept by
the best Celtics team ever in the season he missed
most of because of a broken foot. All right, coming
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
What about shit? Dan Patrick's show Fox Sports Radio. iHeartRadio app.
Welcome in. He's Dan Byro. I'm Doug Gottlieb Man. I
hope you had a great fourth July. I know I
did up here in Green Bay. Of course, Dan in
(00:26):
Los Angeles a little cookout on actually had somebody give
me a grill, which I like, of all the gifts
you can give a man. To give somebody a new grill,
that was pretty awesome and made some sliders. Sliding into
the weekend is brought to you by our partners at
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(00:47):
and family and enjoy the weekend, making every Sunday a
slider Sunday and Dan as we put out on our
our social page, we do. We know we need to
turn it into slider Sunday. Great idea. We do family
dinner at at my house every Sunday. So I had
no idea that. Apparently frozen pizzas over like an open
(01:12):
flame is a big thing in this part of Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Are you were this, Yeah, yes, I've never really partaken
in that sort of thing, but oh, you will, Yeah,
oh well you will. Jacks is you know a popular
brand that you think.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yes, that's what we're doing. We're doing Jack's I by
popular demand. Last weekend we did I made, I made tacos,
made some carne style for the boys as well. We
did we did tacos. This week, we're gonna have to
do slider Sundays. But we're also going to do Jack's
Pizza over an open flame. I had no idea that
(01:47):
these are. I was like, this is seven days ago.
I learned of this. Anyway, Ohpe, you had a great weekend.
I I this is the beginning of the new sports calendar,
the new sports year. This is it's like you reset
your now, you reset your your mental calendar. And look
the NFL. I don't think it's going to look that
(02:08):
different this year. You know, Aaron Rodgers switched teams last year.
Granted he only played four games. It'll still be an
adjustment because he hasn't really played with the Jets. But
outside of that, not a lot of massive change, right right,
I mean, Saquon Barkley changes teams, but not a ton
of massive change the NBA. Next year, Lebron's same team
(02:33):
will see if Kevin Durant's same team, Steph Curry kind
of you go through it. The stars there, Paul George
is the biggest star to switch teams to this point,
not a ton of different. I do think college basketball
will be back in at least much more of our
our focus because Cooper Flag is going to play a duke.
(02:55):
He's as highly touted a prospect as there has been
coming into college basketball in a long long time. Right.
The elimination of the G League ignite as well as
NIL is getting a better quality of incoming player to college.
We still have ye COVID year seniors, so I don't
(03:16):
know what it looks like. I do think that that
duke being back kind of a top the rankings and
people paying attention because they have, you know, since Zion,
Cooper Flag is the most known prospect to come to college.
But college football, to me is the one that you
want to talk about massive change. You have conference realignment
(03:36):
combined with with the new college football playoff, and yeah,
I'll throw in the fact the video game is back
as well. Yes, but we have been waiting our entire
lives for a college football playoff, our entire lives. And
here's if you're I'm not talking down to I'm just
(03:59):
edgy you. If you're thirty or younger, just see you
understand Like, we've had split national champions in this sport
in this century, two teams that can rightfully call themselves
national champions. Like, how does that work? It? Somehow we
allowed it to be for a long time. Bowl games
(04:19):
have been previously diminished. Now they're completely diminished. Anything outside
of the ones that decide national championship. There is no
more Rose Bowl because there is no more Pack ten.
If there's no Pac ten or Pac twelve, there can
be no more rosebul Will they play a game in
the Rose Bowl and call it the Rose Bowl? Sure,
it's not the Rose Bowl? And then we actually have
(04:40):
a College Wall playoff? And oh yeah, by the way,
you know Cal and Stanford won't play USC and UCLA.
That's weird. Arizona and Arizona State are now in the
Big Twelve. That's weird. Texas and Oklahoma tied the hip,
but Tech Oklahoma and Oklahoma State that was the longest.
(05:01):
It's a continuous rivalry game played in all of college football.
It is, at least for the time being, no more.
That streak is broken. So that's a lot of change
all in one year. We've had conference realignment, We've had
incremental change of the BCS, and then the college football
(05:21):
playoff with the fourteen playoff. But to have all of
this at one stand, it's a lot of change.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, it's pretty enormous. You're talking about college basketball and
Cooper Flag and there's even going to be conference realignment there,
but it just does not hit like it does with
college football. And this season I think is just going
to be even more strange or more unique because I
(05:48):
don't think the schools, I don't think that the conferences
really understand what some of the unintended consequences are going
to be with your schedule and how you move on
in the future. Does it pay to play non conference
games against stronger opponents? Will that be used against you
(06:09):
if you have a loss. Will it help you if
you lose a game and you're compared to another team
that maybe didn't have as strong of a non conference schedule.
Those things are all brought in. When you had the
four team usually it didn't matter as much. Sometimes even
head to head if you were playing one of those
top games didn't necessarily matter. Now I think it's gonna
(06:32):
matter a lot more because of the variety of teams
that could be available for some of those spots. But yeah,
I think that there's a lot in play that being
one of them is I think teams have no idea
and how they're gonna want to schedule how they're going
to play things out because they have no idea on
how the bracket is actually going to look when you're
taking you know, other at large teams if you will.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's interesting. Well, the other part to it is, yes,
you don't know how to schedule, but because you don't
know how, it's I mean, the assumption is the better
the team's schedule, the more it's gonna help you. But
I'm with you, and then you have the the other
part to it, which is you've already had many of
these games scheduled for years in advance, and in some
(07:17):
of the games that you had scheduled for years in
advances are now in your conference. Like the whole thing
is just sure, it incredibly incredibly strange.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And there's there's situations too, which isn't foreign, but we've
seen rivals who are in the same conference but they're
not on the conference schedule. So they're gonna play a
non conference game even though they are in the same conference.
That has happened now with these expanded you know, with
the expanded leagues. And I believe that there's an instance
(07:47):
or two in the ACC and I can't remember the
schools exactly that I employed, but it'll be a non
conference game for two teams in the ACC. So that's
something that's even even weird and unique to watch. You'll
still the College Football Playoff ranking schools. But even to
that point, Doug, like, if you really want to get
like like into the weeds on it. If are you
(08:10):
gonna set up seeds so they're rematches? Are you gonna
have it try to avoid rematches? Well, what about if
it's a rematch for one team that has a buye
if they win and not for another. How do you
set up the bracket that way? What's fair? What's not fair?
There's just so many things that you have no idea
about that we may have a better idea at the
end of the season once it all plays out, But
(08:32):
going into it's you're basically going in blind.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, I think it's interesting. I think there's a bunch
of levels that are interesting to me the schools that
are I think the school that is the most, the
one to pay attention to the most is Oklahoma. I
mean it's Oklahoma because Oklahoma was so completely and thoroughly
(08:57):
dominant during their time in the last twenty years in
the Big Twelve. To go from that to what I
think is a really really tough slud tough sledding. It's
just tough sledding, you know. But I again, I could
be wrong, because they found a way to win games.
(09:20):
One was the Big Eight to the Big Twelve through
different coaches, right, you know, ever since ever since they
hired Bob Stoops in ninety nine, it's been twenty five
years of brilliance. They've had the one off year here
or there, right, But to go from Bob Stoops to
Lincoln Riley to Brent Ventables. You know, he had his
first year, we lost his recruiting class and lost his mojo,
(09:40):
but you know, did get it back to some extent
last year. I think Oklahoma is the one because you know,
Texas was never really a Big twelve school and they
joined the Big Twelve and they're part of it. I
just again, I personally think business was good for both
of those schools. I don't understand, and I know why
(10:01):
Texas kind of triggered this and started this. I know
the thinking of Chris Delcante, and I understand, but I
think people most like seeing when you win, and those two,
those two programs, they're just at such a financial advantage
to everybody else in the Big twelve, even if you
(10:22):
added schools in the Big twelve. I just think it's
a mistake. I think they're now just one of the
fish in the biggest pond in college football.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's funny because I'm not obviously as close to the
situation or that school as you are, just because of
where you went and the rivalry that is. I looked
at it as I wondered if Oklahoma actually had an
advantage in the SEC this year, because I feel like
the Texas conversation is so overpowering, especially for what we
(10:53):
think Texas could be of making the playoff last year.
Yours is back arch manning is there that I wondered
if it would benefit Oklahoma going into the new league,
if it would benefit them at all for kind of
flying under the radar. I get what you say on
a on a you know, a grand scheme of things
and how it's going to work out. But even just
like sliding in this year, I wondered if maybe the
(11:15):
pressure was off a little because when we're talking about
schools changing, I just feel like Texas is so much
of that conversation for the SEC.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, but but I mean I want you to think
about think about this. Okay, you're you're Oklahoma, and they've
always played a pretty good non conference slate. You know, Temple, Tulane.
You know, obviously they do play Houston, which is now
a Big twelve school, but one that it's not like
they come in flying in.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, they played Ohio State years back, you know, games against.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They played Notre Dame. They challenge themselves. Their SEC schedule
starts with Tennessee at home and at Auburn. Then they
got Texas in Dallas, then South Carolina at home, and
they go to Ole miss somehow. You throw Maine in
there where you're going to get all the get you know,
that's the get right game. Uh. Then you reinvigorate your
(12:04):
rivalry with Missouri from from back in the Big Eight
in Big twelve days. Then you got Alabama coming in.
Then you end up at LSU. Like your road trips
are Ole, Miss L s U and Auburn, right, my
missing any old Miss L s U, Auburn and Columbia
(12:25):
and in Missouri. Like wow, that's that's a that's a wow.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Sure, But wouldn't be any better if it was Tuscaloosa,
you know, Athens, Knox Mill.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
No, no, no, I mean like you know, like send
us to Stark Bull. I mean it's not like it's
an easy place to get a win. But sendmon to Kentucky,
Semi to Vanderbilt, sen me to STARKFLL first year, Like,
get me going. But what what my point is? You know,
it's they've they've made a nice little They've made a
nice little there's a cottage industry of pointing out that
(12:58):
Lincoln Riley didn't want to be in the SEC. He's,
of course, why would you want to be in the
SEC when you have a program that's they judge them
if you don't win ten games in Oklahoma, I've had
a bad year. You're not winning ten games with that schedule.
The years of ten of winning ten games are gone.
Like you'll have a one off yere hopefully, you know,
(13:20):
if you're Brent Benables're just sitting there going like, man,
we got to get it all right, got to get
it all aligned, you know, get the non conference. They're
not going to lose any of those non conference games.
So I mean, look, you win eight, that's a hell
of a year. But just having that mental adjustment made,
especially when you know people it doesn't matter if the
(13:41):
level of competition is way better, it's still just a
hard mental adjustment for people to go like, wait, seven
wins is a good year. Eight wins is a good year.
That's really hard.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I think it's a really good point as well when
you compare it to the other changes that are being made.
Now you think that Oklahoma's the most intriguing school and
all of this, And I don't fault you that. I
think you can make a great argument for it. I
actually think it's Oregon because I think Oregon can be
really good in the Big ten. I'm just curious on
how it all plays out. But to your point, you
(14:13):
just laid down a gauntlet in the SEC, which SEC
fans have been talking about for year after you know,
year after year after year after year. When I say
this to you for Oregon's schedule, and not to make
its schedule radio, but I'm just telling you it's not
going to hit the way that Oklahoma's just did. You're
home against you or at UCLA to open up home
(14:35):
against Michigan State, huge one against Ohio State. Then at
Purdue home against Illinois, at Michigan home against Maryland, at
Wisconsin home against Washington. Now you got some. You got
Ohio State, Michigan, and Washington on your schedule right there.
It's the others that don't hit like the schools that
(14:56):
you mentioned, you know like And that's the difference to it.
Not saying that Oregon's gonna cake walk through all those games,
but they should be. They should be winning those games.
It is different because in the Big Ten, when you've
had Michigan and Ohio State, sorry, there were lulls, there
were there were lulls in the schedule, and there are
games that not that you would go through the motion,
(15:17):
but you're just gonna end up winning because you're gonna
end up winning. And in the SEC I don't think
you can really say that well.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
When you had when you had, I mean, and budget
isn't everything right, Texas has not been. It's a the
all time upset in college sports is that Texas up
until last year was an utter disappointment in football into
Big twelve, despite the fact that their budget was at
least two x of most everybody in the league. But
Oklahoma was right there with them. They weren't. They were
(15:46):
not that far behind. And to spend that much money
and that many resources and have that much history, like
you're at an advantage. Sure the games, you know, you're
at ninety percent of the time you have better players,
better resources than the opponent. That just doesn't occur now
when you're in the SEC Oregon. What's interesting, You know
a lot of people talk about the Big the Pac
twelve teams, you know, going out going to the Midwest
(16:08):
or maybe even going out east if you play if
you play Rutgers and the weather. I mean, the truth is,
it's kind of a misconception. First of all, it's not
like the weather's great in Oregon when you play in
Washington or you're playing the Polue spec when they're in
the in the in the PAC twelve. But but maybe
more importantly, the travels a bear. Okay, but keep in mind,
(16:29):
the Pac twelve was not a bus league, right, it
was a people would fly down to go to the
LA schools outside of that, like you gotta get an
airplane for everywhere you're going. It's it's not a bus league.
It's not the you can't Illinois, Indiana, Indiana, Purdue like
you can fans all live around the same place as
they can drive to those. That's you're definitely losing that.
(16:49):
That's different. But the weather wise, you're playing like one
game in November in the Midwest at most, like let's
let's not overbur now. The style of football is different,
and there is. It is a tough, rugged league, but
it's they have not been as invested in nil throughout
the entirety of the league like they are in the SEC.
(17:12):
The caliber athlete is a little bit better in the SEC.
And the big question is, you know, and Oregon, remember
when Oregon was remade a couple of staffs ago, it
would they became the tough, rugged team up front in
the Pac twelve as well as having the speed at
the skill positions. Maybe not like Chip Kelly era, but
a little bit different. So I'm with you. I think
(17:33):
Oregon translates really well. The other part to it is,
you know you're bringing I mean, and this is hard
because Deshaun Foster is a high school teammate of mine.
He was a freshman while I was a senior in basketball,
Like we've known each other forever. I love Deshaun, But Ucla,
I mean that's they're gonna be the La Chargers of
college football. Like their stadium is going to be full
(17:54):
every road game, every home game in the Pac twelve,
only there'll be a road team in their home stadium.
Sure that's a hard one. Yes, yes, So I'm I'm
with you on on Oregon. I think that transition could
be a little bit better. So I don't know, it's
it's a fascinating, fascinating I think the thing that bums
(18:16):
me out the most is if we had one or
the other, I would feel better about it. But if
I just wish now that we have the College twelve playoff,
we had all the old league's reset, because then it
would have been perfect. Yeah, right, if you have if
you had the five leagues you had previously, then you
(18:36):
have the five league champions and they play their conference
championship game, and you have five auto bids, and then
whatever the sixth best league is they get an auto bid,
and then the next six we decide based upon you know,
the SEC probably gets two or three, the Big ten
probably gets the second one, the ACC probably gets the
second one, the PAC twelve probably gets the second one,
(18:57):
the Big twelve probably gets a second one. Like but
they were about seve.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
The other thing about it, Doug is and I agree
with you. I kind of wish it was the old way.
I don't think that we're done because the ACC is
just standing there and maybe their grant of rights is
so ironclad that there's not going to be change. But
it's looking at the Big Ten schedule, people will ask me, hey,
does this school play that school? And I don't remember,
(19:23):
because there were two Big Ten schedules sent out. There
was the one with only US at UCLA. Then when
Oregon and Washington ended up, you know, joining the league,
then they had to develop a whole new schedule in
schools that would play UCLA aren't playing them anymore. And
so like this stuff changes and likely at some point
will change again. I just don't know. It probably won't
(19:44):
be as drastically as it is entering this year, but
I do think that it is forthcoming, no question.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
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Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio with Dan Byrom
Doug Gottlieb. I'm sure you were scrolling last night and
you're sitting there and you're like, Okay, Tom Brady's doing
what so last night? Byer, I didn't get the invite.
I'm sure you did, and you just kind of blew
(21:12):
it off. But what's the guy's name, the rich guy
that has the party that flies everybody in?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Michael Rubin?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Michael Rubin. I can't help but when I think of
Michael Rubin, I think of the legend of Ricky Bobby right,
where Sebastian Baron Cohen he plays the French driver Lubin, Right.
I just that's all I can think of when I
hear Michael Ruben's name. So he has the all white
(21:40):
party and Tom Brady's out there slinging it on the
beach with some real football players, and he's a retired
football player. I don't know, go ahead, it was, it was.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It was really weird. And when I watched the video,
has a couple of guys out there having some fun
playing some catch on the beach. And then I read
the article and these are these are two paragraphs back
to back from Bleacher Report on this story. You ready
(22:16):
for this? Rapper Quavo was also in attendance, and the
competitors were seen playing a tackle style of beach football,
with Rubin joining in as well. Then it says Brady
looked like he had not lost much ability since hanging
up his cleats. Following Yeah, he delivered several impressive spirals
(22:38):
to his teammates and showed why he was able to
capture seven Super Bowl titles during his illustrious career.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
This is that an onion story, an actual sports.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
This was the author?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I don't it was. It was from the Bleacher Report,
I don't. I hope that writer was being ironic. I
hope so as well. But they are back to back
sentences like this is. And by the way, it like
it's one of those things that CJ. Stroud was there
as well, so it wasn't like Brady was the only
other quarterback. But I would hope that Brady would look
(23:15):
the part playing on the beach throwing too. It's Jason
said out routes to Travis Scott like I would hope
that they that Brady's passes would look better than the
routes that Quavo was running in the sand. By the way,
some of them in their full not even beach clothes.
Brady was Brady looked the part, but some looked like
(23:35):
they were working out in the clothes that they wore
to the party.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
So many questions did they Obviously all of them had
to go back and shower in Ruben's Polt mansion before
rejoining a white party. We've all been to a party
where we're like sweating and uncomfortable. That's bad. And I
think that there's no way Tom Brady like volunteered to
do this. I think that they got so much love
(23:59):
from the social media last year with just the pictures
from the party, you know, the who's who, And this year,
I think Ruben is like, let's take it up a notch.
Let's do video of actual football on the beach in
front of my mansion, and the sporting world and the
celebrity world will go nuts over this, and it just
looks concocted and phony. I know Tom Brady didn't want
(24:22):
to do this, but he just couldn't along with it.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It looked like that. Remember the Brett Favar Wrangler ad, Yes,
where he's like where he's out with a bunch of
randos just throwing the football and there's a dog in
a truck and you're like, yeah, I don't that doesn't happen.
Nobody comes up to Brett far AND's like, hey, man,
let's go play some Footballlet's still throw the rock around.
Well then, And by the way, Berette fav if you
(24:45):
if you track him down in his tractor today, he
can still spin it too. Like they're professional athletes.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Nobody can speak to this more than you. Dog. You
have played at a high level of a sport. I'll
tell you my experience. Okay, after I got down with
high school, I had to start paying to play baseb
I played in an adult baseball league, and being in
southern California, you have this massive pool of former pro players.
And you would go to a pro player, but him, Man,
I do the Sunday adult league. You want to come
(25:12):
out and pitch, you know, for us, And they would
be like, no way, Like I've done that. I've played
at the highest level. I don't need to do this recreationally.
And that's what I was thinking of. Like when they
went to Tom about that, he probably had to roll
his eyes and he's like, all right, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I don't know though, because he's in a little bit
of a weird space right, Like, look, he's on social
there's times in which you're like, he's on the boat
with his kids, and you're like, I like that, Like
that's like regular dude stuff. But he's clearly trying to
figure out how much attention he still wants, right Like,
(25:49):
he still quite obviously wants the attention. He wouldn't be
doing the TV thing unless he wanted the attention because
he does not need the money. It's a lot of money,
but he does not need the money. So I'm with you. Yes,
I'm sure there's part of it. Part of it is
Tom's probably just like, okay, sure, did it feel good
to him?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It probably felt lame as hell, like what what are
we doing? You want me to do? What? Like? Okay,
the thing that I was thinking of? Who is the
running back Robert Edwards? Yes? Yes, do you remember the
Robert Edwards saying Jason.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I do was a Was that a Pro Bowl event?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yes? So? And for people don't remember. And this is
honestly why we've worked together a long time and we're
all kind of like minded, same age. He's Dan Byer,
I'm Doug Gottlieb, JA Stu. Jason Stewart's our producer of
The Doug Gottlieb Show daily three to five Eastern. Of
course we have an hour podcast. Just download that whenever
you want. This is Dan Patrick Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. There was a it only lasted a year.
(26:49):
It wi'll last a year because of Robert Edwards. That
they had the Pro Bowl and then they had a
a beach football game for like rookies and second year guys.
I want to say that part to it is just
my memory. I haven't looked it up. I don't remember.
But Robert Edwards was a running back for the New
England Patriots and he planted and his it's one of
(27:11):
those injuries that only I like to watch on repeat,
where his knee and legs spun completely around and the
rest of his body did not, and he was literally
never the same, never the same as a football player.
I don't know if he ever played again in the NFL.
He probably played like a little bit where you know
one of those hey, we stitched him back up together
(27:32):
and he was he was okay, but it was it
was bad. And I was sitting there watching this thing,
going like, what if one of these idiots, like tere's
his knee at the White party playing sand football with
Tom Brady, like of all the things. That's that's where
my brain go was like, oh, please, don't let anybody
get hurt. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Robert Edward Travis Scott's camouflage pants may try to prevent
an injury, like those that he was wearing. There were
other people, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Couldn't see so because it was camo, try to soficult.
I couldn't see at all.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
That's the other. The other thing about this is I
know OBJ was there, but we found out that Micah
Parsons was there. Damar Hamlin was there.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Mar Hamlin had an interception. That's what I saw. Mar
Hamlin intercepts Tom Brady, like what.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
But doing again, none of these guys are Brady's age, Like,
they're not even they're not even as peers. They're like
from a younger generation, which is also like odd if
you just even going to any party where if everybody's
ten years younger than you, like you feel a little
(28:41):
out of place. It's not like you can't get by
without stuff, but it was just it was a unique
point where like, hey, here's Tom Brady's turning, you know,
forty seven this summer, and everybody else is in their
twenties and thirties. It's just yeah, it was just it
was odd seeing it. But Brady did dress the hard
I will say that he did, you know, look like
(29:02):
a guy who was ready to play some nice, casual
beach football where I'm not sure everybody else was.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, that is a weird thing in a party, right,
like where you walk in and everybody's ten, fifteen, twenty
years younger than you're.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
You're like, you can make it work, right, Maybe it.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Doesn't make it fun. No, like all the references, you know,
all my John Hughes movies references out the window. Forget
about Caddy Shack. I mean, you can't even do. There's
so much you can't do, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I wonder what Malie Cooker is going to think about
Michael Parsons playing in a sand football game on the
fourth of July, let alone having the podcast that he
didn't love Parsons having.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
That was a weird one. That's a weird, especially when
he's on your team, Like you're gonna why would you
just not tell Michael Parsons that, Why would you air
that publicly?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Do it on his podcast? Yeah, that's that's what he
should have done Parsans podcast. Yes.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Side note, by the way, Travis Scott, who was catching
the out pattern from Brady. I just revealed on our
daily show recently that Travis Scott is not his name,
and I find that to be so weird because I
always thought that of all these hip hop artists that
(30:22):
that have like two and three different names, I thought
Travis Scott was the one guy that just kept to
his name. And then you look further into it, and no,
he took like an uncle's name and then the actual
first name of Kid Cuddy and he put him together
and his name is completely different. I need to look
that up. But Travis Scott is just such an unusual
(30:44):
name to choose as a as a stage name, just
in case the listener didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I thought it was probably like his middle name was Scott,
but he just then as a performer, used it as
his last name.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
His full name is jos Berman Webster, Jock Berman Webster.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
That is a curveball.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah the world right.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Now, here's the thing, we hear Webster. Here's here's the
here's a perfect example of our age. We hear Webster.
We think of the TV show Webster with the with
Emmanuel Lewis.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yes, ma'am, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
There's no way that h and then Papadoccas. What was
the George Papadokas. Is that who the former football player was? No?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
No, no, no, it was Alex Carris. But Eric I think
that was the name of the family.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Was Okay, Alex Carris was the football player.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
And then it was and Benson wasn't the butler in Webster?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
No, Benson was Benson? Benson was the butler in a
TV show? But right there was Webster was the co
And here's here's one when if you really watch the show,
wasn't Webster the one where now Bob Uker was also
in Webster?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
No was Belvidere was So you're a conflating show, am I?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Oh yes, wait, so mister Belvidere, Benson and what was
in Webster? Three different shows?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay? Which one I was a Webster? The one that
the house they lived in had all these kind of
secret passages.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Isn't that silver Spoons?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Well he is. There was like a like a dumb
waiter at the Webster house.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
I believe, Yes, Oh, you're right. I think we've already
done this before.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Webster was one of the secret passageways. We've we've confirmed.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That that that always that that that to me was
actually my biggest reason to watch that show because I
wanted that house.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
But Silver Spoons was the one with the train and
the video games.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Right, Richie rich Yes, uh, and that was Rick Rick Schroeder,
Ri Rick.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Schroter, Fonso Roberto was in that. But also now, as
an adult and as someone who has a young child,
I would have kicked that train track out of my
living room, as fat like. It is bad enough to
try to jump over smaller train tracks and dinosaurs, to
have one actually split your entire living room completely impractical.
(33:19):
There was that thing would have been gone day.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
One, okay. But so the bigger point here is not
that you would have kicked that train, okay, or that
we conflated. It's that all of these TV show references
from Silver Spoons to extends into Webster to what was
the other one, mister Belvidere, and then of course the
show of all shows was Different Strokes. Right. If you
(33:46):
walk into the White Party and you reference any of
these shows as Tom Brady, no one else in the
White Party gets it.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And if you can't have that conversation, I just I
don't know how much that it's just not fun. Oh
it's just not fun.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, I agree with that. And it almost feels like
two of like you invite a comedian over, like tell
some jokes. Hey, Brady's over, Let's play football, like play
any other sport, play basketball, do it whatever. But the
last thing that you'd probably want to do is go
and throw passes on the beach. Unless it was just
(34:24):
for the Graham, that could be the other reason.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I think it was for the Graham.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
He likes the It was a social media concoction, and
that's what I couldn't stand.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
But according to Bleacher Report, he showed a lot of
the skills that led him to seven Super Bowl titles
throughout his career.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Who wrote that as I seriously, I want to know
who wrote that.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
There's a name atop the article.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I don't know the guy, all right, poor guy, he's
sitting there going like what you wanted me to? They
just want me to write a little.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Blurry yeah exactly. This is the thing so bad enough
I had to write this story. Now I'm getting criticized
for it.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Hey, you're getting you want to clicks, You're getting clicks.
So I'm Doug Gottlipe's Dan byer D.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
You know, what's the fourth of July. But I need
you to write a story about Tom Brady throwing football
passes on a beach. I know this is supposed to
be your day off, but if you could write it
for us, that'd be great. Things.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Well, he was gonna write on Joey Chestnut at the
Eating Thing, and then Joey Chestnuts dot you know, so
he had to move to the White Party. So, uh,
what the What are some of the most memorable day
after in sports? Day after in sports? What happened the
day after the big Day? We'll get that next.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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(36:03):
Perfetts on the Ones and two's hoping all of you
had a safe and happy holiday and you have a great,
great weekend with family, with friends and dabbling in sports
as well. And it's it's really interesting how Dan's brain works,
because my brain kind of works this way as well.
You know, woke up to a house full of like
dishes and like, oh god, when I get back from work,
(36:27):
I hope somebody has covered that. I just I need
the I need the genie to come in and clean
everything up. But that day after something really cool, sometimes
it's not that much fun, which is kind of a leaddown.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Right, Yeah, yeah, it is that.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
That's kind of what spawned this idea of a game.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
It's just, you know, I feel bad for July fifth,
because how in the world do you top July fourth?
And there are a lot of great moments in sports,
and we are trying to figure out if anybody actually
topped or came near to topping their greatest accomplishments. And
after one round of this game, Doug, you lead one
to zero to zero, but there's time for Chris Purfett
(37:10):
and Jason Stewart to pull even. It's round number two again.
If you're just joining us, I'll give you a monumental
moment in sports history, and the guys have to pick
what happened the next day? How did that person fare?
We're doing an NBA version here and we're gonna start
with Jason Stewart here, then Chris, and then Doug. You'll
(37:33):
get the last pick of these three. Here are your
three categories. Be like Mike Bryant, Gumbo or Simon Lebron
Which category would you like? Again? In honor of Fritzy
and trying to be creative with some of this stuff,
we've come up with these categories. Be like Mike Bryant,
Gumbo or Simon Lebron.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Oh Man, Simon Lebron is a great one. Yeah, let's
go with Simon Lebron.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
All right. Lebron Ja scored sixty one points on March third,
twenty fourteen. It was his highest scoring game as a professional.
Did so against the Charlotte Bobcats in a win for
the Heats again March third, twenty fourteen. Within five points?
How did Lebron fare? On March fourth of twenty fourteen?
(38:21):
So if you're within five points of his point total,
you're gonna get the point in this one.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Okay, I'm gonna give you a couple extra stats too.
I'm gonna give it stat line. It's it was twenty seven,
eight and six.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I don't know about the eight and six, but you
got in right under the line, just twenty two points.
As the heat fell to the Dwight Howard and James
Harden led Houston Rockets one oh six to one oh three.
That was the day after Lebron had his sixty one
point effort that one. Yeah, he was right on it.
Five points, twenty two points, twenty seven rule. Yes. I
(39:00):
actually felt that was a little strict earlier, which allowed
Doug to have that one nothing lead because.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
He was corrected here. You may have over corrected here. Okay, respectfully,
I got it, all right, It's close. I guess what
was missing was the tone was from I thought from
Jason was he had a good, solid day, And I
think the tone from what you're reading is, yeah, he
wasn't that good and they lost the next time.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, yeah, they had a clunker against the Rockets. All right.
Chris Purfett, be like Mike or Brian Gumbo.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I do like some Gumbo, Brian Gumbo.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
All right. Kobe Bryant scored eighty one points against the
Toronto Raptors on January twenty second, two thousand and six.
By the way, the same day the Seahawks beat the
Panthers in the NFC Championship Game to go to their
first ever Super Bowl. Kobe went to twenty eight for
forty six from the floor. Five days later is next game,
January twenty seventh, two thousand and six. How did Kobe
(39:59):
Bryant fare? Chris Purfett?
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I am terrible, terrible at basketball stats. They just do
not stick.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Give me a point total and we'll see how it works.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
All right, I'm gonna say he went. He probably had
let's say fifteen points.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Okay, fifteen points. He had a little bit more than that.
He actually had thirty, but that wasn't even half of
the eighty. He had seven of twenty two in an
overtime win over Golden State, but it did take him
overtime to get those thirty points. So no points for
Chris Purfett. All right, Doug, you could take the lead.
You get be like Mike Michael Jordan scored sixty three
points on April twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six, and a
(40:38):
game two loss in the playoffs. In Boston won thirty
five to one thirty one. What did Jordan do two
nights later on April twenty second of nineteen eighty six,
within five points?
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Okay, I know he had. I know he had. There
was a three game series, it was. It was a
three game series, and I remember he had one game
where he had nineteen, he had one game where he
had sixty three, and he had one game where he
had forty nine. But I don't know the order of it.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
What you want I want to go with, I'm.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Gonna say I think he had forty nine.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
He had nineteen points in a loss at home. Oh
it's so close, Doug. The Celtics took care of the
Bulls that are all forty.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Ninety game one, Yeah, sixty three in Game two and
nineteen and game three.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Correct, I got that. But hey, kudos on you for uh.
I'm surprised he didn't just split the difference. But then
you wouldn't have been close either way.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
You know, Michael Jordan overrated because he got swept by
the best Celtics team ever in the season he missed
most of because of a broken foot. All right, coming
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