July 5, 2024 • 42 mins
Doug Gottlieb and Dan Beyer in for Dan and the guys as they discuss July 4th and get deep into the Hot Dog Eating Contest. Doug and Dan welcome former NFL executive Mark Dominik onto the show to talk about Dak Prescott, Brandon Aiyuk and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Beyer takes Doug and the crew through a game of "The Day After".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning to you. It's Stan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio.
On the fifth of July. Many of you on the
West Coast just waking up. East Coast, you're probably cleaning up.
Hope you had a great grade fourth of July. You
celebrated the right way. You got all your digits and uh,
your belly's probably pretty full. I know mine is eight
(00:27):
too much. It's just it is weird, Dan, as I
know you're headed this way very soon, but to be
in the state of my birth but kind of your
home space and you're in my space, You're in the
place where I grew up.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Like, that's that's a that's a weird one.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It was a hot one yesterday, Doug.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Oh yes, it was very, very toasty in southern California.
Hopefully everything was safe. Wise and by digits, you obviously
didn't mean phone numbers, you meant fingers.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yes, yes, I said this.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I don't remember if you were on my show or
I've been done so many different shows this week. By
the way, you can hear Dan every Sunday here on
Fox Sports Radio. You can also hear Dan on my
show daily three to five Eastern time on Fox Sports Tradero,
the iHeartRadio or download the podcast. So we've been doing
other shows this week, and I said, like, you know,
like there's seminal moments in young people's lives where you
(01:21):
learn things from adults, right, And I remember learning about
you know, the old say no to drugs really struck
home when Len Bias died after using cocaine.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I remember the.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Safe sex talk after Magic Johnson contracted HIV. And then
now I was more of a young adult, but I
remember when Jason Pierre Paul blew off his fingers and
I was like, yeah, that's just a reminder to self.
You know, It's like lighting the fireworks is always really fun,
but you know how many people like want to hold
onto the fireworks the very last second then throw it
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up in the air.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yes, yes, the firecracker jokes you may play on your
friends or heck, even those videos Doug like it and
not back it up. Terry like that one is everybody
watches that out for the July but it's the one
where the people are sitting in the front yard. Yeah,
it's not even dark yet, Like it's probably about seven o'clock.
At night, but they're like, hey, let's light off some
(02:17):
street fireworks and then one goes to the side and
within ten seconds the entire front yards just smoking flames.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, there was a there looked like an incident like
that in San Francisco last night. And then there was
some weird ones where at Lavelle Edwards Stadium at BYU
there was some fired off into the stands where people
were in geez. Yeah, I mean looked like Bain took over.
Kind of one of those things where.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I thought that happened out here at one point two
where a group of people were like sitting in a field.
I'm thinking maybe it was Seamy Valley at one point
years back. Jason Stewart, I don't know if you can
confirm this or deny this, but I thought that it
was angled the wrong way and instead of being fired
up in the air, it was going at the spectators.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Oh I remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I wouldn't go back the next year. I think I'd
be like, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's a hard one, right, Do you go back or
you do not go back? If you go back, you're like,
what's the chance that something bad happened again?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Right?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Hey, they're not going to mess it up this year.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But on the other hand, if you don't go, if
you go back, you're also going to be triggered by
all those other memories of you know, flinching every time
anything fires off. So always always an interesting one. Anyway,
I hope you had a good fourth July. What was
curiously missing was Joey Chestnut at the hot dog eating competition, right,
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and then Joey Chestnut had his own competition in Texas,
and apparently he was banned from this competition because of
a sponsorship deal he did with somebody not named Nathan's. Right,
do we get do we determine what actually took place
to take him out of the competition. It wasn't like peds. No,
it wasn't like he was gambling on it. There's no
pet Barry Bonds or Pete Rose in this thing. It
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was more a sponsorship deal.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, with Impossible with the Impossible Meats. That's where we
signed to deal with. And they felt that it was
in direct competition with Nathan's hot Dogs, and because of
that affiliation, Chestnut was not allowed to participate.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So he with his competition did they only eat Impossible
hot Dogs?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
You know, I I don't have the exact details on
the actual dogs that they ate, but I could tell you,
Doug that I logged into Joey chestnuts YouTube page yesterday
after yes and watch the festivities.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Hold on, hold on why I was on the air.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
At the time, and so it was part, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Part curiosity, a curiosity thing.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, And it was like.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I didn't know, like if you're if people say, well,
are you a fan of love of pan Ohio State football?
I love Seattle and Joey Chestnut. I didn't know that
that was what.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
No, it was.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It was funny because it popped up on my timeline
and like I should tune into this. And so in
for Plis, Texas, he had his own event and the
competition it was him against four soldiers. So the four
soldiers total of hot dogs were gonna be matched with
Joey Chestnut's total number of hot dogs. And by the way,
the soldiers, kudos to them because I had three hot
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dogs yesterday and I am feeling it today. I really
didn't have anything else. Had some ribs that my wife
brought home because I couldn't go to the party that
she was at. Had just a couple of ribs, but
three hot dogs, completely over feeling it. Today, these guys
put down forty nine between the four of them in
five minutes. Pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What is actually the trick to it? What is actually
how does it actually work? I've heard the thing about
the buns, but you still have the hot dogs. How
does it eat so many hot dogs? I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I learned a little yesterday, and I don't know if
Jason or Chris Purfett have any more insight into this,
But yeah, the buns are compacted by the water. That's
why you dip them in the water. I also have
heard that, you know, you prap on a water diet
for a couple of for a couple.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Of days, expands your stomach, yes, and.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Gets ready for that way.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
But yeah, I don't know how you can fit fifty
seven hot dogs, fifty eight hot dogs, let alone seventy
hot dogs in that area very carefully, very carefully.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well that sounds again. I just somebody's got to tell
me the trick to it. There's got to be a
trick to it. It's like every magician's like, all right, there,
here's the trick to it, and it doesn't mean I
can pull off the trick, but at least it means
I understand the trick to it. What's the trick to it?
I don't get it. People see to keep going with
the water on the hot water on the buns.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You still have to eat fifty some odd hot dogs
in five minutes, Like, yeah, just just physics alone, how
does it fit?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You want to know what popped into my mind?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Was that video or that I think it's a professor
or a teacher and he has the empty jar and
he put some golf balls in it and he says, hey, class,
is this full? And they're like yeah, So then he
ends up pouring rocks in and then sand and then water.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Like that's how I that's how I assume that.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They don't choot, but it doesn't chew.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I do think you chew.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I do think that there is like you do have
to chew the hot dog somewhat to be able to
make it work.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I'm a part of the population that's utterly disgusted by
this and I never watch it and it's like one
of those things where I don't know if you guys
are in this as well. I don't like to think
about what happens to our trash or our garbage or
our sewage. I don't like to think about it. It's
it's too complicated and it's probably too depressing to think about.
I don't want to think about what happens after you
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eat all that? Oh I do, No, no, that that's
not for him.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
The opposite, Oh, man, do you keep it down? Or
do you do you poop it out? Like? What do
you do? Like? And probably like do you throw it up? How?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I again, I'm just the The whole thing amazes me
them to just say I don't even know how you
do that. Just somebody explained to me how you do it,
and well, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, and too.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
And the other thing that's just amazing about it is
these four guys, big guys, military guys end up eating
forty nine in five minutes, about twelve per person. The
winner of the Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest at fifty
eight yesterday, Peter Bertoletti I believe his name was, ended
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up winning with fifty eight dogs in ten minutes. And
then Chestnut goes and eats fifty seven and five minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And it's me, he's just talking half the amount of time.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yes, he was one dog short. I was, as I said,
I was on the air when the event was actually happening,
and so I tune in and there's I don't know,
forty seconds left, so I didn't catch the start of it.
I saw guys eating pizzas before because they had a
couple of different events going on, and I'm like, oh wow,
Chest at fifty seven. All he would have lost if
he would have been at Coney Island, because he would
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have lost by one. Didn't realize that it was only
a five minute event, so he would have absolutely destroyed
the competition again, which I don't know if would have
made a better television product because yesterday it was actually
compelling because he didn't know who was going to.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Win, so he had help me, had fifty seven fifty
seven in five minutes. Yes, so he had eleven in
a quarter or eleven and a half per minute.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, just that's insane.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
And I think that he probably wanted to beat because
the fifty eight, Yeah, like like can I do that
in five minutes? And because it happened earlier day.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And chess everybody else. There's the other part to the trick.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
He's Joey joh and I think that Isn't there something
with his jaw or the way that he chomps. I
mean it's.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Double jointed in his jaw. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I can you do that freaky thing with his jaw
that people can do with like their album and they
like stab their arm around like oh, like no, no,
I'm fine, pop it back in. You're like, oh, I'm
just double jointed.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
What I didn't realize was by watching all of this
that I would turn into our de facto expert, which
I am clearly not.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So I don't have all these answers.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Is like fascinating, as we discussed this morning, like we're
like that, do we want to talk about hot dogs
and start the sports show?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Like you know what, it's really kind of interesting.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
But I want to know about the industry in general,
Like all industries have those top level guys that get compensated, right,
you have the even like with podcasting, there's a billion podcasts.
The top top level make a good living doing it.
Most of are just kind of struggling. Like I think
Chestnut makes money and maybe the female equivalent makes money.
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But when you get into this game. Is it worth it?
Is it worth putting your body through that? For whatever
the compensation is, I can't imagine it being much.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
But to your point, you have to have other people
who are involved in the competition, otherwise you can't just
have a one.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Right exactly here. Here's the other thing about it is
nobody is a fat slob up there. Nobody like chestnuts
ripped the guys that were competing. I didn't see the
women's the women's competition, but the guys that I saw
there are a couple of bigger guys. You know, there's
a guy that was six ' nine, but he wasn't
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he wasn't you know, overweight by any means, Like.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
These guys are fit. And then the guy that they thought.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Maybe would win it was an older guy who looked,
you know, in great shape. So it's not you know,
like there's there is a I guess method to the
madness if you will, because it wasn't just like you know,
a bunch of overweight people eating a bunch of hot dogs.
There's something to it where you have to be in
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that physical shape to be able to compete at that
someone at that level.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This is a quick aside Okay, as as Jay Stu
you said, you're basically disgusted. That's why you won't watch.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
As I've stated many times before this show, when I've
guest hosted The Herd of course, our show, The Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, I'm also somebody who
I like watching gruesome injuries. But even yesterday, I was like,
when I saw did you see the shark attack photo
of the woman's leg yesterday?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Posted online?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I saw it was ended up in my for you
part of my timeline, and when I kind of realized
what I was about to see, I quickly scrolled away.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Yeah. The only reason I saw is because Doug Gottwieb
is one of my follows, and he he he redistributed
the picture the close up of the leg half bitting off. Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, that's not good. Why that's not Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I mean, you know, I love this stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
But in one moment, you're I'm watching a slow mo
video of a cookout at your house, and the next
the next tweet, apparently I'm seeing a half bitten leg
by a shark. It's not I don't, I don't, I
don't want to see it now I'm now, I'm like, geez, now,
I got to be cautious on my timeline on.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So do I have to put out the end and
not save forward N S f W would that be
or just don't post?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
It's kind of like a warning. Yeah, maybe, like you know.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Like a warning warning, like a whole warning.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I I I don't even know, like if you quote
tweeted it, which is I assume what you did. I
don't even know if an N S f W would
be sufficient because that'll just pop up on a timeline
and you're like, oh, by the way, something that I
don't want to see after eating just three hot dogs yesterday.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
The the other, the other portion of.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
This Joey Chestnut thing is I know you guys are like, oh,
it's Jason's like, I'm disgusted by it. My wife was
saying the same thing, but she watched because we had
it on.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
She watched.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
It's okay, are you disgusted, but you'll still watch, as
you were alluding to, Doug.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yes, But the other, the other.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It's the same thing as the shark by thing. It's
gross to be like, oh I can't wait, I just
wait wait, is that really your leg is there. Can
you see the teeth marks? Yeah, it's dissimilar, but it's
a similar thing.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
There's also the pay per view or the I shouldn't
say the pay per view, the Netflix event that Chestnut
has now against Kobyashi. And did you think it was
now actually going to be a fight. So if Chestnut
does fifty seven and five minutes, have you taken the
drama away that he might lose in a one on one?
That's the other that that's the double edged sword that
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Joey Chestnut may have faced dominant on one end, but
the dominance yesterday wipe away any appeal in that net
flick event that he has against Kobyashi.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
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fifth of July. It's Friday, but we are getting closer
to football, like actual football, and who better to welcome
that part of the year in than Mark Dominic, who
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joins us weekly on the Doug Gottlieb Show. He's kind
of to spend some time this year on the Dan
Patrick Show. He spent twenty years in the NFL front
offices in scouting. Of course, he's the former genteral manager
of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Good fourth July to you, Mark.
I was it last night.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
It was great. I just went across the street, watched
the big fireworks show, ran into the Hasslebecks if remember
them of football lore, and spent some time with them.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well just just a quick side note, Okay, if you
run into Tim, not Matt, just remember I'm really good
friends with Tim.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Tim.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Honestly, I've learned more football from Tim than any other human.
When I was at ESPN, we used to sit together
watch Monday Night football and he would tell me where,
like where the ball was supposed to go and why
I was supposed to go there. Like every snap it
was it was like what it was totally having a
cheat code next to you.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
So those are those are really really good guys.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But just remember to remind Tim that his brother is
better than at everything than him.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
That always, that always puts him in a good place.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Uh, Dak Prescott in a walking boot. It's July, but
no one knew he should be in a walking boat.
You're the general manager. I'm guessing you'd know. But if
you didn't, and you'd turn and you looked at your phone,
you saw that, what will go through your mind?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Well, the first thing I'd do is if I didn't know,
is I would call his agent real quick and just
kind of get understated, did something happen recently? Or is
this just preventative or why are we into walking boot
in the first place? It would be I mean, if
I didn't know, it would be a little bit of concern,
But sometimes it's just to reduce swelling or to reduce inflammation,
and so it's not as big a concern. And then
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once we've kind of heard that this has been somewhat protocol,
then I'd just be like, hey, look, as long as
you're just doing what you're supposed to do to be
ready for Week one of the regular season. Keep at it,
and I wouldn't be as big a concern about it
right now if I was the DAWs Cowboys or their famous.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Okay, so we're we're getting closer and closer to some
we think some of these deals being consummated. Let's start
with the Dolphins, because they have a legit amount of talent.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You have a front office.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That reportedly stood by you know, when Brian Flores was
let go, one of the reasons they'd let him go
was he just could eat him buy into TUA. So
these are the guys that drafted to it. These are
the guys that believe in Tua. On the other hand,
there is the when the rubber meets the road, how
much do you want to pay Tua? What do you
do from a front office perspective when they just want
to fall in line with the Trevor Lawrence contracts of
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the world and you don't think TUA should get that
type of contract.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
How do you handle it?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Yeah, I think you got to find a balance, and
I think there's starting to be one, you know, gut
instinct is in a little book, is that it won't
be your traditional five year deal. For Tua, I talked
I think last week the week before, maybe something around three.
I'm thinking it's going to be more of a possible
four year deal. So again, as the club, you're thinking
worst case scenario. When you sign a contract. You're trying
to protect your club, but you also know how much
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you want that player. And in this situation, I think
that you won't see the traditional five year deal that
we see almost every quarterback sign. I think you'll see
something to the three or four year deal that will
still allow the Dolphins some flexibility if something happens from
a physical standpoint to two that he can't participate, you're
going forward in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven,
and then you can still get out of the contract.
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So I think it's going to be finding that common
ground with less years.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I want to jump in and just jump back quick.
There's an issue with my Mike here in my studio,
But about the Cowboys and ear. Since you're talking contracts,
maybe this works. Cede Lamb is expected to be a
contract told out. We know about Dak's situation. How does
Ceedee Lamb situation obviously affect the Cowboys and if in
the end, if you are Jerry Jones, do you have
to cave him and give him the contract? Considering that
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you're waiting on Dak and waiting to see how this
you know, this season plays out, how do you handle
Ceedde Lamb situation.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Yeah, I think it's a good question. And you know
when the maximum find is around fifty thousand dollars a day,
but you're talking about in terms of if a player
doesn't report who's under contract, right, so you're talking about
a player like a Ceedee Lamb. Well, fifty thousand dollars
day when you're looking in the mid thirties as a
contract per year is enough of it to turn And
I think it's more it's going to be a bigger
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deal for the Cowboys than is Ceedee Lamb to miss
a week or two. It's a bigger deal for Jerry Jones.
We all know he's getting old and he wants to
have another championship and it's desperate for him. He really
wants to enjoy that moment again. And I know he
knows how important Ceedee Lamb is. So I think that
they're going to cave to Ceede Lamb. I think he's
going to get his deal because Jerry has to get
that team on the football field. If he misses a week,
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it's for a player, it's three or fifty thousand dollars,
but it is a contract. It's a twenty more million
dollars a year kind of a deal. So I think
I think they get it done if the Cowboys really
really want the players to show up the camp and
then they'll negotiate. I think this is when where Ceedee
Lamb might miss it bigger too, if the Cowboys can't
figure out a way to get he and like a
Parson sung.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Okay, let's go back to the Dolphins thing. Now we
saw we're bouncing back and forth, but I think it
all makes sense to me. We're all on the same
page here. I understand you're saying, hey, let's do a
four year instead of a five year deal, But how
does that conversation actually go, Like you pick up the
phone and they are like, no, we're we're doing this.
This is what every other top level quarterback is doing.
(22:00):
How do you even what it like? Again, take us
through the real conversations of how it goes when you're
not willing to fall in line with what other quarterbacks
are doing.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Yeah, I mean, I just have to keep pointing this.
I'm willing to get you close to your average per
year of that fifty to fifty five million dollars per year.
I am. But I have to protect my club, and you,
as the agent, have to see that two has had
a situation here where he almost had the game taken
away from him, and because he's one hit or two
hits away from that happening, I have to do this now.
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We can go back to the drawing board in two
more years from now, once he's got two years left
and say hey, let's relook at the deal. Once he's
put three four years in a row stacked on each other,
maybe then we'll get the traditional deal going. But I
would say this to him too, if you're going to
walk away from two hundred million dollars, I'm going to
have no problem telling everybody that I offered that because
it's two hundred million dollars. And so that's that's a
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ploy that you can use with the agent to sit
there and say you're the one who's walking away from
this boatload of cash. It still lets you get near
the average per years that all these quarterbacks are getting.
I just need a year less because I've got to
be able to walk away because I am concerned and
you should be too. And I would kill the player
too if I needed to. I'd call the player say
look to it. I want to get the deal done. Okay,
I do, but you have to understand you got to
own some of this too because of what's happened in
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your injury history, and so that's the way I think
you have to communicate on it, getting the to a
deal done when it's not the traditional five year deal
we're seeing all around the league.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I admitted I was completely wrong, and I did not
give Hard Knocks training camp a fair shot, and I
was hooked within the first ten minutes. How comfortable would
you have been in a situation like Joe Shane is
in with the New York Giants having cameras in all
of these preseason meetings, whether it be at the end
of the regular season and moving through. Is this weird
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to you to see the kind of access that the
Giants are giving in this training camp version of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
A little bit, yeah, because I mean I think it's
really putting yourself in New York under the microscope restatement
you make. Whether it's Sae Kwon Barkley or something else,
it definitely is. You know, it's a great behind the
scenes view. I would encourage everybody to watch it because
I do think it's very raw and very real in
terms of the conversations you have and who all as
part of the conversation. It shows you, you know, the
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different levels of different people involved. You've got you know,
the assistant general manager there, You've got salary cap there,
you've got Director of player personnel there with the GM ownership,
and so you get to see the natural conversations that
do happen in terms of like the way they were
thinking about their running back room and who they thought
might be free agents and how they could fix that position.
But I think it's it's great for fans, it's great
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for us in the media and things like that. As
a GM, it's a little unnervouing because I feel like,
you know, whatever you say, can it will be held
against you at a court of laws.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I agree, But I also think that there's there's
one other element to it which is really really important,
which is it's not that sunlight's the greatest system in fact,
but we do have a tendency to gravitate towards most
people on hard knocks, right as much as sometimes you
know they're sharing stuff they wouldn't normally share.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I don't know. Again, I don't know how you view it.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Mark, because you've lived the world of the NFL, But
I do think as a consumer of it, like I
find myself the guys that are the real humans in it,
I appreciate a lot more so. Yeah, Dan, I agree
with you, they're showing stuff they'd never I did not
expect to see. On the other hand, I do know
that in the end the process leads me to really
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liking the team and the people even more.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Yeah. I think that's a very fair point. To become
more humanized and it's more of a person instead of
just a you know, you get to see some of
the thought process of like maybe the decision was right,
maybe the decision was wrong, but you do see the
human element of it, which I think is what you're
talking about, Dan or Doug. And I think that that's
a true point.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah, you know the other part about it, Mark, And
I'm and I know you're you know, GM turned media member,
it was a bit rewarding to hear the conversations are
some of the conversations that we have on air. Like
I feel like at times maybe we're not talking the
same thing. And I do think that that does happen
where it's different in a locker room or if it's
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different in a front office. But just when Shane says
we're not having a forty million dollar quarterback hand off
to a twelve million dollar running back, that's something Doug
would say on a Tuesday, you know, in an off season.
To me, that was rewarding, like just to actually see
the blend. And I don't know, like if if that
is the way that you spoke or if you found
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it different now that you're a member of the media,
but I actually felt a little bit vindicated, like all right,
they're actually having the conversations we have.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Yeah, I mean, I admit, right before the draft, you know,
I talk about putting together mock drafts. You know, GMS
do that. Even though we like to do it in
the media and put together mock drafts, GM to do
mock drafts and you have different people around the room
kind of talk about who people are going to take
and what's gonna happen. It tern of gives it information
to you, but you have to have I mean again,
the number one thing you have to do is communicate
with your team to have really good discussions about what
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so thought processes. And they right there, Jo talked about
like the way he sees building the Giants, it's not
going to be that way that he's going to see
the running back room for what it is, it's worthy
six to eight, maybe the ten million dollars range, but
not anymore. And also tells you that they really feel like,
obviously their quarterback Daniel Jones is the guy, and you know,
they don't feel like they have to surround him with
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maybe more of an elite talent and maybe he can
get it done. So it's a big year for Daniel
Jones obviously, but it shows that the Giants still have
a lot of belief in Daniel Jones, more than even
I think I have.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I noticed there was no discussion though, but clutch cheing,
I just I'm not sure everything that's discussed on radio
and TV.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm joking there.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Mark Dominic joining us, former gentle manager of the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. He joins us every week in the Doug Gottlieb.
So this is the Dan Patrick show, Fox portrait of
Dan Buyer. Doug Gottlieb here with you on the fifth
of July. The Brandon Nayuk thing is just kind of weird,
Like he's a good player. But I don't think anybody
wakes up thinking San Francisco forty nine ers coming to
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town and of the litany of super talented guys they have,
they don't go, like, you know, who's the best of
them all is Brandon Ayuk. So I don't know if
we're giving this too much attention. It feels like we are,
but with it for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
How do you handle what is at least a minor
distraction right now with Ayuk?
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Yeah, So I think I don't think we're giving it
too much attention. I think the agent that represents them
doing a good job of keeping it in the loop
of media, because it feels like the decision has already
been made from the forty nine ers perspective, that they're
so far apart that tells you that they don't really
they're never going to get to the number where branded
fields like he needs to be at. Whether that's twenty five,
thirty thirty two, I don't even know what that number is.
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But the forty nine ers are in that predicament, which
is a great one. They know in a year from
now they're going to drop the fifty to fifty five
million dollars a year on their quarterback too, assuming brock
party State's healthy this season. And now suddenly they've got
to think about the way they're building their football team
with Deebo and McCaffrey and all the other players on
the team, and they're looking at Brandon Nyuk and going
this one's replaceable. Somebody has to be replaceable, and that's
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why they're not coming close. So I think the agent
is trying to keep this momentum, this pressure from the
public from the media to try to get a deal
done because they understand how important it is to try
to get secure too. But I think the forty nine ers,
unless say get a sweetheart deal, they're going to stand
their ground. This isn't going to happen. There might be
a little bit of a miss a day or two,
but Brandon Yuke's going to have to show up and
produce this year and then he can go test the
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market in free agency and find out what he's.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Really worth real quick, Mark, And I know you got
to run. I'm just wondering, he has. Have you ever
been in a situation where you kept a player, uh,
maybe for camp, maybe through camp, as a favor, either
to an agent or to another player.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
I'm sure I know that you know. I've certainly taken
a guy to camp as a favor to an agent.
Is because I was like, you know, let's see if
this guy can do it, and the agent had a
lot of believes let him get the pads on. Let's
see what he does when he gets the pads on.
If you don't like it, you know, in a couple
of days into it, and let him go and move on.
And I've done that for sure, but nothing deeper than that.
From a player's perspective. I don't remember ever grabbing the player,
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but I certainly would talk to When I was getting
ready for the draft, I would talk to the players
that went to the school and get a sense of
the Hey, look curiously, four or five guys that are
coming out of whatever offer, and tell me a little
bit about each one of them. So I talked to
them that way. But I wouldn't sit there and say,
throw me a bone and bring my brother in law here.
I never did that, but I certainly did, you know,
bring some guys to camp and see if they could
grow once they got the pads on awesome stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Happy to tell the House of backs, I said, hello,
they're I'll get really good. All right.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
That's Mark Dominic Johnny us here on the on the
Dan Patrick Show. Obviously you knew what I was alluding
to there, Dan with the well with with the brownie thing,
and it's it's it's fascinating, right because it's the other
part too. And now being a head coach in college,
you realize there are so many things you have to
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worry about and deal with, right.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
And then you're like, wait what he wants me to?
Dringing who?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And don't get me wrong, like, well, we get I'll
get an ask about about some things. And you know
I got I had a player the other day. He
didn't ask me to. It was a player who's available.
He's like, I've played with him, he's really good. He's available.
What do you think watch some tape? Let me know so. Uh,
but it is an interesting space I want to get
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into at some point a little bit later on today, Uh,
he's He's Dan Byrom Doug Gottlieb. We're in for Dan
and the dan Ets today. You know, I want to
get to a little bit later on in the show.
The fact that it feels like, and I don't know
if you disagree with this, it does feel like, whether
it's this week or All Star week, this is the
end of the sports year calendar, right, is that?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
You know?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's like this is this is almost jan one, although
there's no it can't be Jan one because Jan one
has college football, but it is. It's kind of the
turnover the of the of the year. Is that is
that fair?
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Sure? Yeah, I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Do you think people understand or have stopped to think
about how much change there's going to be in college
football this year?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
They better start.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, that's like a massive, massive change.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And because like the Baseball changes for the rules, I
think that snuck up on people, and obviously the expansion
of the playoffs kind of stuck.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Up on people, so that sport has changed dramatically.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
NFL, I think the extra extra game there was some effect.
I'm not sure if people this year college football massive change.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
We want to get to that.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
But coming up next, what's been the biggest letdown in sports?
Biggest letdown in sports, the biggest Yah. We'll get to
that next on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Doug Gottlie, Dan Danettes, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio App. Welcome,
Welcome in. Hope you had a great fourth July. Hope
everybody safe. Get ready for an awesome, awesome holiday weekend.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
It is Friday, right, this is Friday. Good stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Let's let's do something we do on our show on
the Doug Go Outleap Show, Fox Sports Radio three to
five Eastern every weekday here on FSR, we turn it
over to Dan Buyer, who is our game master, and
we play a game.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Doug.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Normally we have your games that we do on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday. But when we are on The Dan
Patrick Show and filling in for Dan and the Dan Nettes,
try to spice it up a little something, do something
a little different, try to honor Todd Fritz in the
best way possible with usually some try to be creative
names and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And I got to.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Thinking, Jason called it a letdown, and July fifth is
a tough follow on July fourth. It's kind of like
December twenty sixth, right, December twenty five Christmas. Then there's
the day after. There's something about July fifth, the letdown
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the day after. So I figured I would take moments
in sports that were great and see how well you
guys know what the aftermath was, what the day after was,
what the letdown from those high moments in sports. So
I have a bunch of different categories. Jason Stewart, you
are going to compete against Doug Gottlieb as is Chris
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profetor technical producer. So the first round you will each
get a category, but Doug, because you're Doug, you get
to pick what category you would like.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Of these three scenarios.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Okay, the categories are mark my words, mixed berries, and
cool Joe. Now that yous all have something to do
with a monument mentil moment in sports, and you're gonna
try to at least ballpark what happened the day after?
So mark my words, mixed berries or cool Joe? Which
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one do you want to go with.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I'm gonna go cool Joe.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Okay, cool Joe.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Joe DiMaggio's hit streak ended at fifty six in nineteen
forty one, on July seventeenth and Cleveland against the Indians.
All Right, the hit streak comes to an end, and
that's kind of a downer, but it did end at
fifty six. Doug, take a guess at what Joe DiMaggio
did the day after July eighteenth, nineteen forty one. Just
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give me a stat line of any sort, and if
you're somewhat close, I'm gonna give you a point in this.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
That's all it is, is simple enough. I'll judge it.
You can.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
You can make up any stat that you'd like, but
just give me any stat line on how you think
Joe Dimagio did on July eighteenth, nineteen forty one, the
day after he had his fifty six game hit streak.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Come to me.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I could be wrong, but again this is my memory.
I think he had another hit streak he started the
next day.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
You know what, Joe Dimagio went two for four, which
started a sixteen game hit streak from that. That is
good enough for me.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Doug.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Gottlieb, you have got one point that is correct. So
if you would have gotten a hit on the seventeenth,
he could have had a seventy three game hit streak.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Maybe maybe the pressure. Maybe it's like the Jordan Championships
with a gap, maybe.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
They retired, he wouldn't have won.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yea, yes, but but yes, I had a.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I had no idea the length. I just know he started.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yes, yes, that's that's good enough for me in this one.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
All the way, the fifty six is still a sacred number.
Like steroids didn't ruin that. None of this Shenanigan's ruined
it with including other stats into the record books. Fifty
six is still golden. I like that about that record.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Un likely, untouchable at this point. There was a point
that I thought in our times where we thought it
would happen. Doug, you're talking about being in Wisconsin now.
When Paul Molloder had his it was a really, really
big deal. I think he got to thirty nine. I
think that's what it got to. But Benito Santiago, I
think had a thirty four game hitting streak.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Just a heads up if you watch the Brewers July twelfth.
I believe I get to sit in with Brian Anderson.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I don't know if it's an inning or two innings,
and I think at the first pitch too.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Oh wow. That's a week from today.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
And while we're talking about our social calendar, I will
be attending the Dodgers v. Brewers tonight.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well, glad to see my boy BA Jeff Levering, they'll
both be there.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Jason Stewart, you are next up in the category. Do
you want to mark my words or mixed berries?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Let's see, I love mixed berries.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Barry Bonds hit home run number seventy one on October fifth,
two thousand and one, giving him the single season record
for home runs in a season, breaking Mark McGuire's mark
of seventy. Bonds hit number seventy one against the Dodgers
in an eleven to ten loss. What did Barry Bonds
do October sixth of two thousand and one, the next
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day after he set the record.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
I mean, if I remember correctly, Barry Bonds was hitting
a home run like every two at bat, so I'm
guessing it hit a home run. But since the name
of the game has letdowns, now I'm confused. So I
will go zero for one with four walks.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Gosh, if you wouldn't have thrown in the four walks,
I would have given it to you. He only pinch
hit in the ninth inning. Yes, went one for one,
had one at bat, but basically didn't play the entire game.
Came in for a pinch hitting scenario, singled, and then
was removed for a pinch runner seven.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Bond's never hit for the cycle. He just hit.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Oncle Oh oh, very good, all right, Chris perfact that
leaves you with mark words. Mark McGuire hit home run
number sixty two on September eighth, nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
That broke Roger Morris's mark.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
My scraper right strap the top of that scrape the
top of the wall and left field in Saint Louis line.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Drive, Yes, down the left field line in Saint Louis,
did so against the Chicago Cubs. What I want to
know is what Mark McGuire did September ninth of nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Hmmm, if it's let downs, so I'm sorry, repeat again
like that was his What do you do the next day? Yeah?
I know, but home run number is number sixty two.
It was number sixty two. I'm gonna go golden sombrero.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Okay, how many at bats do you want to give him?
Speaker 6 (39:51):
I'll give him four at bats.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Okay, I'm gonna actually mark that a loss, very close,
zero for two. She was replaced in the third inning
when they traveled to go and face the Reds in Cincinnati.
And you have to realize this, there was a balance
because Cincinnati fans probably bought tickets to see the record, right,
they think that they're gonna see maybe get a chance
to see history. So McGuire has to play the next
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You can't just not play the next game. But because
he broke the record, ended up only playing three innings.
Yet you also had Sammy Sosa on his tail, which
was another reason why he probably had to play in Cincinnati,
but they played him for three innings, went zero for two,
and then was removed from the game after three innings.
So those were some sports letdowns the day after history
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in Major League Baseball. We'll have more of these throughout
the show as well, maybe even venturing into other sports
as well. But as it stands, Doug Leeds with one
over Jason and Chris.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
The day after a lot of you are if you're
at your lake house, you listen to us or whatever,
you're at the beach, you're at a verbo or even
at home. Will you wake up and you're like, it's
not just cleaning up the inside with the cookout, right now,
you got to clean up the marks made by all
the fireworks, right That's one of those things, like the
day after that's a good was that the thinking of
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the letdown?
Speaker 5 (41:14):
It was I just think, like, July fifth's probably, you know,
gets a bad rap because it's not July fourth, So
I thought, what about these other great moments? And then
what happened the day after?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
This is a really good fourth July though on a Thursday,
so that everybody's like, eh, I'm off for a Friday,
and then Saturday Sunday, and then you come back kind
of completely refreshed and we start all over again, which
brings us to what I want to get to next hour.
Okay and Dan and I are gigantic football games.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
We both are.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Both of our favorite college football teams are OSU, his Is,
Ohio State, Mines Oklahoma State. Both will be going through
massive changes in terms of who they play. Have we
started to conceptualize just how different college football is going
to be this year. Believe us, we'll share it with you.
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Next with Dan Byron, Doug Got Leave This The Dan
Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning to you. It's Stan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio.
On the fifth of July. Many of you on the
West Coast just waking up. East Coast, you're probably cleaning up.
Hope you had a great grade fourth of July. You
celebrated the right way. You got all your digits and uh,
your belly's probably pretty full. I know mine is eight
(00:27):
too much. It's just it is weird, Dan, as I
know you're headed this way very soon, but to be
in the state of my birth but kind of your
home space and you're in my space, You're in the
place where I grew up.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Like, that's that's a that's a weird one.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It was a hot one yesterday, Doug.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Oh yes, it was very, very toasty in southern California.
Hopefully everything was safe. Wise and by digits, you obviously
didn't mean phone numbers, you meant fingers.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yes, yes, I said this.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I don't remember if you were on my show or
I've been done so many different shows this week. By
the way, you can hear Dan every Sunday here on
Fox Sports Radio. You can also hear Dan on my
show daily three to five Eastern time on Fox Sports Tradero,
the iHeartRadio or download the podcast. So we've been doing
other shows this week, and I said, like, you know,
like there's seminal moments in young people's lives where you
(01:21):
learn things from adults, right, And I remember learning about
you know, the old say no to drugs really struck
home when Len Bias died after using cocaine.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I remember the.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Safe sex talk after Magic Johnson contracted HIV. And then
now I was more of a young adult, but I
remember when Jason Pierre Paul blew off his fingers and
I was like, yeah, that's just a reminder to self.
You know, It's like lighting the fireworks is always really fun,
but you know how many people like want to hold
onto the fireworks the very last second then throw it
(01:54):
up in the air.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yes, yes, the firecracker jokes you may play on your
friends or heck, even those videos Doug like it and
not back it up. Terry like that one is everybody
watches that out for the July but it's the one
where the people are sitting in the front yard. Yeah,
it's not even dark yet, Like it's probably about seven o'clock.
At night, but they're like, hey, let's light off some
(02:17):
street fireworks and then one goes to the side and
within ten seconds the entire front yards just smoking flames.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, there was a there looked like an incident like
that in San Francisco last night. And then there was
some weird ones where at Lavelle Edwards Stadium at BYU
there was some fired off into the stands where people
were in geez. Yeah, I mean looked like Bain took over.
Kind of one of those things where.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I thought that happened out here at one point two
where a group of people were like sitting in a field.
I'm thinking maybe it was Seamy Valley at one point
years back. Jason Stewart, I don't know if you can
confirm this or deny this, but I thought that it
was angled the wrong way and instead of being fired
up in the air, it was going at the spectators.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Oh I remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I wouldn't go back the next year. I think I'd
be like, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's a hard one, right, Do you go back or
you do not go back? If you go back, you're like,
what's the chance that something bad happened again?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Right?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Hey, they're not going to mess it up this year.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But on the other hand, if you don't go, if
you go back, you're also going to be triggered by
all those other memories of you know, flinching every time
anything fires off. So always always an interesting one. Anyway,
I hope you had a good fourth July. What was
curiously missing was Joey Chestnut at the hot dog eating competition, right,
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and then Joey Chestnut had his own competition in Texas,
and apparently he was banned from this competition because of
a sponsorship deal he did with somebody not named Nathan's. Right,
do we get do we determine what actually took place
to take him out of the competition. It wasn't like peds. No,
it wasn't like he was gambling on it. There's no
pet Barry Bonds or Pete Rose in this thing. It
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was more a sponsorship deal.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, with Impossible with the Impossible Meats. That's where we
signed to deal with. And they felt that it was
in direct competition with Nathan's hot Dogs, and because of
that affiliation, Chestnut was not allowed to participate.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So he with his competition did they only eat Impossible
hot Dogs?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
You know, I I don't have the exact details on
the actual dogs that they ate, but I could tell you,
Doug that I logged into Joey chestnuts YouTube page yesterday
after yes and watch the festivities.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Hold on, hold on why I was on the air.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
At the time, and so it was part, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Part curiosity, a curiosity thing.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, And it was like.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I didn't know, like if you're if people say, well,
are you a fan of love of pan Ohio State football?
I love Seattle and Joey Chestnut. I didn't know that
that was what.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
No, it was.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It was funny because it popped up on my timeline
and like I should tune into this. And so in
for Plis, Texas, he had his own event and the
competition it was him against four soldiers. So the four
soldiers total of hot dogs were gonna be matched with
Joey Chestnut's total number of hot dogs. And by the way,
the soldiers, kudos to them because I had three hot
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dogs yesterday and I am feeling it today. I really
didn't have anything else. Had some ribs that my wife
brought home because I couldn't go to the party that
she was at. Had just a couple of ribs, but
three hot dogs, completely over feeling it. Today, these guys
put down forty nine between the four of them in
five minutes. Pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What is actually the trick to it? What is actually
how does it actually work? I've heard the thing about
the buns, but you still have the hot dogs. How
does it eat so many hot dogs? I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I learned a little yesterday, and I don't know if
Jason or Chris Purfett have any more insight into this,
But yeah, the buns are compacted by the water. That's
why you dip them in the water. I also have
heard that, you know, you prap on a water diet
for a couple of for a couple.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Of days, expands your stomach, yes, and.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Gets ready for that way.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
But yeah, I don't know how you can fit fifty
seven hot dogs, fifty eight hot dogs, let alone seventy
hot dogs in that area very carefully, very carefully.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well that sounds again. I just somebody's got to tell
me the trick to it. There's got to be a
trick to it. It's like every magician's like, all right, there,
here's the trick to it, and it doesn't mean I
can pull off the trick, but at least it means
I understand the trick to it. What's the trick to it?
I don't get it. People see to keep going with
the water on the hot water on the buns.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You still have to eat fifty some odd hot dogs
in five minutes, Like, yeah, just just physics alone, how
does it fit?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You want to know what popped into my mind?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Was that video or that I think it's a professor
or a teacher and he has the empty jar and
he put some golf balls in it and he says, hey, class,
is this full? And they're like yeah, So then he
ends up pouring rocks in and then sand and then water.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Like that's how I that's how I assume that.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They don't choot, but it doesn't chew.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I do think you chew.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I do think that there is like you do have
to chew the hot dog somewhat to be able to
make it work.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I'm a part of the population that's utterly disgusted by
this and I never watch it and it's like one
of those things where I don't know if you guys
are in this as well. I don't like to think
about what happens to our trash or our garbage or
our sewage. I don't like to think about it. It's
it's too complicated and it's probably too depressing to think about.
I don't want to think about what happens after you
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eat all that? Oh I do, No, no, that that's
not for him.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
The opposite, Oh, man, do you keep it down? Or
do you do you poop it out? Like? What do
you do? Like? And probably like do you throw it up? How?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I again, I'm just the The whole thing amazes me
them to just say I don't even know how you
do that. Just somebody explained to me how you do it,
and well, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, and too.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
And the other thing that's just amazing about it is
these four guys, big guys, military guys end up eating
forty nine in five minutes, about twelve per person. The
winner of the Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest at fifty
eight yesterday, Peter Bertoletti I believe his name was, ended
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up winning with fifty eight dogs in ten minutes. And
then Chestnut goes and eats fifty seven and five minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And it's me, he's just talking half the amount of time.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yes, he was one dog short. I was, as I said,
I was on the air when the event was actually happening,
and so I tune in and there's I don't know,
forty seconds left, so I didn't catch the start of it.
I saw guys eating pizzas before because they had a
couple of different events going on, and I'm like, oh wow,
Chest at fifty seven. All he would have lost if
he would have been at Coney Island, because he would
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have lost by one. Didn't realize that it was only
a five minute event, so he would have absolutely destroyed
the competition again, which I don't know if would have
made a better television product because yesterday it was actually
compelling because he didn't know who was going to.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Win, so he had help me, had fifty seven fifty
seven in five minutes. Yes, so he had eleven in
a quarter or eleven and a half per minute.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, just that's insane.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
And I think that he probably wanted to beat because
the fifty eight, Yeah, like like can I do that
in five minutes? And because it happened earlier day.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And chess everybody else. There's the other part to the trick.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
He's Joey joh and I think that Isn't there something
with his jaw or the way that he chomps. I
mean it's.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Double jointed in his jaw. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I can you do that freaky thing with his jaw
that people can do with like their album and they
like stab their arm around like oh, like no, no,
I'm fine, pop it back in. You're like, oh, I'm
just double jointed.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
What I didn't realize was by watching all of this
that I would turn into our de facto expert, which
I am clearly not.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So I don't have all these answers.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Is like fascinating, as we discussed this morning, like we're
like that, do we want to talk about hot dogs
and start the sports show?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Like you know what, it's really kind of interesting.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
But I want to know about the industry in general,
Like all industries have those top level guys that get compensated, right,
you have the even like with podcasting, there's a billion podcasts.
The top top level make a good living doing it.
Most of are just kind of struggling. Like I think
Chestnut makes money and maybe the female equivalent makes money.
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But when you get into this game. Is it worth it?
Is it worth putting your body through that? For whatever
the compensation is, I can't imagine it being much.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
But to your point, you have to have other people
who are involved in the competition, otherwise you can't just
have a one.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Right exactly here. Here's the other thing about it is
nobody is a fat slob up there. Nobody like chestnuts
ripped the guys that were competing. I didn't see the
women's the women's competition, but the guys that I saw
there are a couple of bigger guys. You know, there's
a guy that was six ' nine, but he wasn't
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he wasn't you know, overweight by any means, Like.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
These guys are fit. And then the guy that they thought.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Maybe would win it was an older guy who looked,
you know, in great shape. So it's not you know,
like there's there is a I guess method to the
madness if you will, because it wasn't just like you know,
a bunch of overweight people eating a bunch of hot dogs.
There's something to it where you have to be in
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that physical shape to be able to compete at that
someone at that level.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This is a quick aside Okay, as as Jay Stu
you said, you're basically disgusted. That's why you won't watch.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
As I've stated many times before this show, when I've
guest hosted The Herd of course, our show, The Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, I'm also somebody who
I like watching gruesome injuries. But even yesterday, I was like,
when I saw did you see the shark attack photo
of the woman's leg yesterday?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Posted online?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I saw it was ended up in my for you
part of my timeline, and when I kind of realized
what I was about to see, I quickly scrolled away.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Yeah. The only reason I saw is because Doug Gottwieb
is one of my follows, and he he he redistributed
the picture the close up of the leg half bitting off. Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, that's not good. Why that's not Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I mean, you know, I love this stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
But in one moment, you're I'm watching a slow mo
video of a cookout at your house, and the next
the next tweet, apparently I'm seeing a half bitten leg
by a shark. It's not I don't, I don't, I
don't want to see it now I'm now, I'm like, geez, now,
I got to be cautious on my timeline on.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So do I have to put out the end and
not save forward N S f W would that be
or just don't post?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
It's kind of like a warning. Yeah, maybe, like you know.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Like a warning warning, like a whole warning.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I I I don't even know, like if you quote
tweeted it, which is I assume what you did. I
don't even know if an N S f W would
be sufficient because that'll just pop up on a timeline
and you're like, oh, by the way, something that I
don't want to see after eating just three hot dogs yesterday.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
The the other, the other portion of.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
This Joey Chestnut thing is I know you guys are like, oh,
it's Jason's like, I'm disgusted by it. My wife was
saying the same thing, but she watched because we had
it on.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
She watched.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
It's okay, are you disgusted, but you'll still watch, as
you were alluding to, Doug.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yes, But the other, the other.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It's the same thing as the shark by thing. It's
gross to be like, oh I can't wait, I just
wait wait, is that really your leg is there. Can
you see the teeth marks? Yeah, it's dissimilar, but it's
a similar thing.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
There's also the pay per view or the I shouldn't
say the pay per view, the Netflix event that Chestnut
has now against Kobyashi. And did you think it was
now actually going to be a fight. So if Chestnut
does fifty seven and five minutes, have you taken the
drama away that he might lose in a one on one?
That's the other that that's the double edged sword that
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Joey Chestnut may have faced dominant on one end, but
the dominance yesterday wipe away any appeal in that net
flick event that he has against Kobyashi.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
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Come on into you Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports tradio
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fifth of July. It's Friday, but we are getting closer
to football, like actual football, and who better to welcome
that part of the year in than Mark Dominic, who
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joins us weekly on the Doug Gottlieb Show. He's kind
of to spend some time this year on the Dan
Patrick Show. He spent twenty years in the NFL front
offices in scouting. Of course, he's the former genteral manager
of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Good fourth July to you, Mark.
I was it last night.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
It was great. I just went across the street, watched
the big fireworks show, ran into the Hasslebecks if remember
them of football lore, and spent some time with them.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well just just a quick side note, Okay, if you
run into Tim, not Matt, just remember I'm really good
friends with Tim.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Tim.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Honestly, I've learned more football from Tim than any other human.
When I was at ESPN, we used to sit together
watch Monday Night football and he would tell me where,
like where the ball was supposed to go and why
I was supposed to go there. Like every snap it
was it was like what it was totally having a
cheat code next to you.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
So those are those are really really good guys.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But just remember to remind Tim that his brother is
better than at everything than him.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
That always, that always puts him in a good place.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Uh, Dak Prescott in a walking boot. It's July, but
no one knew he should be in a walking boat.
You're the general manager. I'm guessing you'd know. But if
you didn't, and you'd turn and you looked at your phone,
you saw that, what will go through your mind?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Well, the first thing I'd do is if I didn't know,
is I would call his agent real quick and just
kind of get understated, did something happen recently? Or is
this just preventative or why are we into walking boot
in the first place? It would be I mean, if
I didn't know, it would be a little bit of concern,
But sometimes it's just to reduce swelling or to reduce inflammation,
and so it's not as big a concern. And then
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once we've kind of heard that this has been somewhat protocol,
then I'd just be like, hey, look, as long as
you're just doing what you're supposed to do to be
ready for Week one of the regular season. Keep at it,
and I wouldn't be as big a concern about it
right now if I was the DAWs Cowboys or their famous.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Okay, so we're we're getting closer and closer to some
we think some of these deals being consummated. Let's start
with the Dolphins, because they have a legit amount of talent.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You have a front office.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That reportedly stood by you know, when Brian Flores was
let go, one of the reasons they'd let him go
was he just could eat him buy into TUA. So
these are the guys that drafted to it. These are
the guys that believe in Tua. On the other hand,
there is the when the rubber meets the road, how
much do you want to pay Tua? What do you
do from a front office perspective when they just want
to fall in line with the Trevor Lawrence contracts of
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the world and you don't think TUA should get that
type of contract.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
How do you handle it?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Yeah, I think you got to find a balance, and
I think there's starting to be one, you know, gut
instinct is in a little book, is that it won't
be your traditional five year deal. For Tua, I talked
I think last week the week before, maybe something around three.
I'm thinking it's going to be more of a possible
four year deal. So again, as the club, you're thinking
worst case scenario. When you sign a contract. You're trying
to protect your club, but you also know how much
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you want that player. And in this situation, I think
that you won't see the traditional five year deal that
we see almost every quarterback sign. I think you'll see
something to the three or four year deal that will
still allow the Dolphins some flexibility if something happens from
a physical standpoint to two that he can't participate, you're
going forward in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven,
and then you can still get out of the contract.
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So I think it's going to be finding that common
ground with less years.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I want to jump in and just jump back quick.
There's an issue with my Mike here in my studio,
But about the Cowboys and ear. Since you're talking contracts,
maybe this works. Cede Lamb is expected to be a
contract told out. We know about Dak's situation. How does
Ceedee Lamb situation obviously affect the Cowboys and if in
the end, if you are Jerry Jones, do you have
to cave him and give him the contract? Considering that
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you're waiting on Dak and waiting to see how this
you know, this season plays out, how do you handle
Ceedde Lamb situation.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Yeah, I think it's a good question. And you know
when the maximum find is around fifty thousand dollars a day,
but you're talking about in terms of if a player
doesn't report who's under contract, right, so you're talking about
a player like a Ceedee Lamb. Well, fifty thousand dollars
day when you're looking in the mid thirties as a
contract per year is enough of it to turn And
I think it's more it's going to be a bigger
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deal for the Cowboys than is Ceedee Lamb to miss
a week or two. It's a bigger deal for Jerry Jones.
We all know he's getting old and he wants to
have another championship and it's desperate for him. He really
wants to enjoy that moment again. And I know he
knows how important Ceedee Lamb is. So I think that
they're going to cave to Ceede Lamb. I think he's
going to get his deal because Jerry has to get
that team on the football field. If he misses a week,
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it's for a player, it's three or fifty thousand dollars,
but it is a contract. It's a twenty more million
dollars a year kind of a deal. So I think
I think they get it done if the Cowboys really
really want the players to show up the camp and
then they'll negotiate. I think this is when where Ceedee
Lamb might miss it bigger too, if the Cowboys can't
figure out a way to get he and like a
Parson sung.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Okay, let's go back to the Dolphins thing. Now we
saw we're bouncing back and forth, but I think it
all makes sense to me. We're all on the same
page here. I understand you're saying, hey, let's do a
four year instead of a five year deal, But how
does that conversation actually go, Like you pick up the
phone and they are like, no, we're we're doing this.
This is what every other top level quarterback is doing.
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How do you even what it like? Again, take us
through the real conversations of how it goes when you're
not willing to fall in line with what other quarterbacks
are doing.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Yeah, I mean, I just have to keep pointing this.
I'm willing to get you close to your average per
year of that fifty to fifty five million dollars per year.
I am. But I have to protect my club, and you,
as the agent, have to see that two has had
a situation here where he almost had the game taken
away from him, and because he's one hit or two
hits away from that happening, I have to do this now.
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We can go back to the drawing board in two
more years from now, once he's got two years left
and say hey, let's relook at the deal. Once he's
put three four years in a row stacked on each other,
maybe then we'll get the traditional deal going. But I
would say this to him too, if you're going to
walk away from two hundred million dollars, I'm going to
have no problem telling everybody that I offered that because
it's two hundred million dollars. And so that's that's a
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ploy that you can use with the agent to sit
there and say you're the one who's walking away from
this boatload of cash. It still lets you get near
the average per years that all these quarterbacks are getting.
I just need a year less because I've got to
be able to walk away because I am concerned and
you should be too. And I would kill the player
too if I needed to. I'd call the player say
look to it. I want to get the deal done. Okay,
I do, but you have to understand you got to
own some of this too because of what's happened in
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your injury history, and so that's the way I think
you have to communicate on it, getting the to a
deal done when it's not the traditional five year deal
we're seeing all around the league.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I admitted I was completely wrong, and I did not
give Hard Knocks training camp a fair shot, and I
was hooked within the first ten minutes. How comfortable would
you have been in a situation like Joe Shane is
in with the New York Giants having cameras in all
of these preseason meetings, whether it be at the end
of the regular season and moving through. Is this weird
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to you to see the kind of access that the
Giants are giving in this training camp version of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
A little bit, yeah, because I mean I think it's
really putting yourself in New York under the microscope restatement
you make. Whether it's Sae Kwon Barkley or something else,
it definitely is. You know, it's a great behind the
scenes view. I would encourage everybody to watch it because
I do think it's very raw and very real in
terms of the conversations you have and who all as
part of the conversation. It shows you, you know, the
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different levels of different people involved. You've got you know,
the assistant general manager there, You've got salary cap there,
you've got Director of player personnel there with the GM ownership,
and so you get to see the natural conversations that
do happen in terms of like the way they were
thinking about their running back room and who they thought
might be free agents and how they could fix that position.
But I think it's it's great for fans, it's great
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for us in the media and things like that. As
a GM, it's a little unnervouing because I feel like,
you know, whatever you say, can it will be held
against you at a court of laws.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I agree, But I also think that there's there's
one other element to it which is really really important,
which is it's not that sunlight's the greatest system in fact,
but we do have a tendency to gravitate towards most
people on hard knocks, right as much as sometimes you
know they're sharing stuff they wouldn't normally share.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I don't know. Again, I don't know how you view it.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Mark, because you've lived the world of the NFL, But
I do think as a consumer of it, like I
find myself the guys that are the real humans in it,
I appreciate a lot more so. Yeah, Dan, I agree
with you, they're showing stuff they'd never I did not
expect to see. On the other hand, I do know
that in the end the process leads me to really
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liking the team and the people even more.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Yeah. I think that's a very fair point. To become
more humanized and it's more of a person instead of
just a you know, you get to see some of
the thought process of like maybe the decision was right,
maybe the decision was wrong, but you do see the
human element of it, which I think is what you're
talking about, Dan or Doug. And I think that that's
a true point.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah, you know the other part about it, Mark, And
I'm and I know you're you know, GM turned media member,
it was a bit rewarding to hear the conversations are
some of the conversations that we have on air. Like
I feel like at times maybe we're not talking the
same thing. And I do think that that does happen
where it's different in a locker room or if it's
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different in a front office. But just when Shane says
we're not having a forty million dollar quarterback hand off
to a twelve million dollar running back, that's something Doug
would say on a Tuesday, you know, in an off season.
To me, that was rewarding, like just to actually see
the blend. And I don't know, like if if that
is the way that you spoke or if you found
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it different now that you're a member of the media,
but I actually felt a little bit vindicated, like all right,
they're actually having the conversations we have.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Yeah, I mean, I admit, right before the draft, you know,
I talk about putting together mock drafts. You know, GMS
do that. Even though we like to do it in
the media and put together mock drafts, GM to do
mock drafts and you have different people around the room
kind of talk about who people are going to take
and what's gonna happen. It tern of gives it information
to you, but you have to have I mean again,
the number one thing you have to do is communicate
with your team to have really good discussions about what
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so thought processes. And they right there, Jo talked about
like the way he sees building the Giants, it's not
going to be that way that he's going to see
the running back room for what it is, it's worthy
six to eight, maybe the ten million dollars range, but
not anymore. And also tells you that they really feel like,
obviously their quarterback Daniel Jones is the guy, and you know,
they don't feel like they have to surround him with
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maybe more of an elite talent and maybe he can
get it done. So it's a big year for Daniel
Jones obviously, but it shows that the Giants still have
a lot of belief in Daniel Jones, more than even
I think I have.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I noticed there was no discussion though, but clutch cheing,
I just I'm not sure everything that's discussed on radio
and TV.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm joking there.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Mark Dominic joining us, former gentle manager of the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. He joins us every week in the Doug Gottlieb.
So this is the Dan Patrick show, Fox portrait of
Dan Buyer. Doug Gottlieb here with you on the fifth
of July. The Brandon Nayuk thing is just kind of weird,
Like he's a good player. But I don't think anybody
wakes up thinking San Francisco forty nine ers coming to
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town and of the litany of super talented guys they have,
they don't go, like, you know, who's the best of
them all is Brandon Ayuk. So I don't know if
we're giving this too much attention. It feels like we are,
but with it for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
How do you handle what is at least a minor
distraction right now with Ayuk?
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Yeah, So I think I don't think we're giving it
too much attention. I think the agent that represents them
doing a good job of keeping it in the loop
of media, because it feels like the decision has already
been made from the forty nine ers perspective, that they're
so far apart that tells you that they don't really
they're never going to get to the number where branded
fields like he needs to be at. Whether that's twenty five,
thirty thirty two, I don't even know what that number is.
(28:43):
But the forty nine ers are in that predicament, which
is a great one. They know in a year from
now they're going to drop the fifty to fifty five
million dollars a year on their quarterback too, assuming brock
party State's healthy this season. And now suddenly they've got
to think about the way they're building their football team
with Deebo and McCaffrey and all the other players on
the team, and they're looking at Brandon Nyuk and going
this one's replaceable. Somebody has to be replaceable, and that's
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why they're not coming close. So I think the agent
is trying to keep this momentum, this pressure from the
public from the media to try to get a deal
done because they understand how important it is to try
to get secure too. But I think the forty nine ers,
unless say get a sweetheart deal, they're going to stand
their ground. This isn't going to happen. There might be
a little bit of a miss a day or two,
but Brandon Yuke's going to have to show up and
produce this year and then he can go test the
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market in free agency and find out what he's.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Really worth real quick, Mark, And I know you got
to run. I'm just wondering, he has. Have you ever
been in a situation where you kept a player, uh,
maybe for camp, maybe through camp, as a favor, either
to an agent or to another player.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
I'm sure I know that you know. I've certainly taken
a guy to camp as a favor to an agent.
Is because I was like, you know, let's see if
this guy can do it, and the agent had a
lot of believes let him get the pads on. Let's
see what he does when he gets the pads on.
If you don't like it, you know, in a couple
of days into it, and let him go and move on.
And I've done that for sure, but nothing deeper than that.
From a player's perspective. I don't remember ever grabbing the player,
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but I certainly would talk to When I was getting
ready for the draft, I would talk to the players
that went to the school and get a sense of
the Hey, look curiously, four or five guys that are
coming out of whatever offer, and tell me a little
bit about each one of them. So I talked to
them that way. But I wouldn't sit there and say,
throw me a bone and bring my brother in law here.
I never did that, but I certainly did, you know,
bring some guys to camp and see if they could
grow once they got the pads on awesome stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Happy to tell the House of backs, I said, hello,
they're I'll get really good. All right.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
That's Mark Dominic Johnny us here on the on the
Dan Patrick Show. Obviously you knew what I was alluding
to there, Dan with the well with with the brownie thing,
and it's it's it's fascinating, right because it's the other
part too. And now being a head coach in college,
you realize there are so many things you have to
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worry about and deal with, right.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
And then you're like, wait what he wants me to?
Dringing who?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And don't get me wrong, like, well, we get I'll
get an ask about about some things. And you know
I got I had a player the other day. He
didn't ask me to. It was a player who's available.
He's like, I've played with him, he's really good. He's available.
What do you think watch some tape? Let me know so. Uh,
but it is an interesting space I want to get
(31:26):
into at some point a little bit later on today, Uh,
he's He's Dan Byrom Doug Gottlieb. We're in for Dan
and the dan Ets today. You know, I want to
get to a little bit later on in the show.
The fact that it feels like, and I don't know
if you disagree with this, it does feel like, whether
it's this week or All Star week, this is the
end of the sports year calendar, right, is that?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
You know?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's like this is this is almost jan one, although
there's no it can't be Jan one because Jan one
has college football, but it is. It's kind of the
turnover the of the of the year. Is that is
that fair?
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Sure? Yeah, I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Do you think people understand or have stopped to think
about how much change there's going to be in college
football this year?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
They better start.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, that's like a massive, massive change.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And because like the Baseball changes for the rules, I
think that snuck up on people, and obviously the expansion
of the playoffs kind of stuck.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Up on people, so that sport has changed dramatically.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
NFL, I think the extra extra game there was some effect.
I'm not sure if people this year college football massive change.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
We want to get to that.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
But coming up next, what's been the biggest letdown in sports?
Biggest letdown in sports, the biggest Yah. We'll get to
that next on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Doug Gottlie, Dan Danettes, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio App. Welcome,
Welcome in. Hope you had a great fourth July. Hope
everybody safe. Get ready for an awesome, awesome holiday weekend.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
It is Friday, right, this is Friday. Good stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Let's let's do something we do on our show on
the Doug Go Outleap Show, Fox Sports Radio three to
five Eastern every weekday here on FSR, we turn it
over to Dan Buyer, who is our game master, and
we play a game.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Doug.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Normally we have your games that we do on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday. But when we are on The Dan
Patrick Show and filling in for Dan and the Dan Nettes,
try to spice it up a little something, do something
a little different, try to honor Todd Fritz in the
best way possible with usually some try to be creative
names and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And I got to.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Thinking, Jason called it a letdown, and July fifth is
a tough follow on July fourth. It's kind of like
December twenty sixth, right, December twenty five Christmas. Then there's
the day after. There's something about July fifth, the letdown
(34:14):
the day after. So I figured I would take moments
in sports that were great and see how well you
guys know what the aftermath was, what the day after was,
what the letdown from those high moments in sports. So
I have a bunch of different categories. Jason Stewart, you
are going to compete against Doug Gottlieb as is Chris
(34:37):
profetor technical producer. So the first round you will each
get a category, but Doug, because you're Doug, you get
to pick what category you would like.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Of these three scenarios.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Okay, the categories are mark my words, mixed berries, and
cool Joe. Now that yous all have something to do
with a monument mentil moment in sports, and you're gonna
try to at least ballpark what happened the day after?
So mark my words, mixed berries or cool Joe? Which
(35:09):
one do you want to go with.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I'm gonna go cool Joe.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Okay, cool Joe.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Joe DiMaggio's hit streak ended at fifty six in nineteen
forty one, on July seventeenth and Cleveland against the Indians.
All Right, the hit streak comes to an end, and
that's kind of a downer, but it did end at
fifty six. Doug, take a guess at what Joe DiMaggio
did the day after July eighteenth, nineteen forty one. Just
(35:38):
give me a stat line of any sort, and if
you're somewhat close, I'm gonna give you a point in this.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
That's all it is, is simple enough. I'll judge it.
You can.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
You can make up any stat that you'd like, but
just give me any stat line on how you think
Joe Dimagio did on July eighteenth, nineteen forty one, the
day after he had his fifty six game hit streak.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Come to me.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I could be wrong, but again this is my memory.
I think he had another hit streak he started the
next day.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
You know what, Joe Dimagio went two for four, which
started a sixteen game hit streak from that. That is
good enough for me.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Doug.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Gottlieb, you have got one point that is correct. So
if you would have gotten a hit on the seventeenth,
he could have had a seventy three game hit streak.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Maybe maybe the pressure. Maybe it's like the Jordan Championships
with a gap, maybe.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
They retired, he wouldn't have won.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yea, yes, but but yes, I had a.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I had no idea the length. I just know he started.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yes, yes, that's that's good enough for me in this one.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
All the way, the fifty six is still a sacred number.
Like steroids didn't ruin that. None of this Shenanigan's ruined
it with including other stats into the record books. Fifty
six is still golden. I like that about that record.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Un likely, untouchable at this point. There was a point
that I thought in our times where we thought it
would happen. Doug, you're talking about being in Wisconsin now.
When Paul Molloder had his it was a really, really
big deal. I think he got to thirty nine. I
think that's what it got to. But Benito Santiago, I
think had a thirty four game hitting streak.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Just a heads up if you watch the Brewers July twelfth.
I believe I get to sit in with Brian Anderson.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I don't know if it's an inning or two innings,
and I think at the first pitch too.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Oh wow. That's a week from today.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
And while we're talking about our social calendar, I will
be attending the Dodgers v. Brewers tonight.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well, glad to see my boy BA Jeff Levering, they'll
both be there.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Jason Stewart, you are next up in the category. Do
you want to mark my words or mixed berries?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Let's see, I love mixed berries.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Barry Bonds hit home run number seventy one on October fifth,
two thousand and one, giving him the single season record
for home runs in a season, breaking Mark McGuire's mark
of seventy. Bonds hit number seventy one against the Dodgers
in an eleven to ten loss. What did Barry Bonds
do October sixth of two thousand and one, the next
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day after he set the record.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
I mean, if I remember correctly, Barry Bonds was hitting
a home run like every two at bat, so I'm
guessing it hit a home run. But since the name
of the game has letdowns, now I'm confused. So I
will go zero for one with four walks.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Gosh, if you wouldn't have thrown in the four walks,
I would have given it to you. He only pinch
hit in the ninth inning. Yes, went one for one,
had one at bat, but basically didn't play the entire game.
Came in for a pinch hitting scenario, singled, and then
was removed for a pinch runner seven.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Bond's never hit for the cycle. He just hit.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Oncle Oh oh, very good, all right, Chris perfact that
leaves you with mark words. Mark McGuire hit home run
number sixty two on September eighth, nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
That broke Roger Morris's mark.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
My scraper right strap the top of that scrape the
top of the wall and left field in Saint Louis line.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Drive, Yes, down the left field line in Saint Louis,
did so against the Chicago Cubs. What I want to
know is what Mark McGuire did September ninth of nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Hmmm, if it's let downs, so I'm sorry, repeat again
like that was his What do you do the next day? Yeah?
I know, but home run number is number sixty two.
It was number sixty two. I'm gonna go golden sombrero.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Okay, how many at bats do you want to give him?
Speaker 6 (39:51):
I'll give him four at bats.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Okay, I'm gonna actually mark that a loss, very close,
zero for two. She was replaced in the third inning
when they traveled to go and face the Reds in Cincinnati.
And you have to realize this, there was a balance
because Cincinnati fans probably bought tickets to see the record, right,
they think that they're gonna see maybe get a chance
to see history. So McGuire has to play the next
(40:17):
You can't just not play the next game. But because
he broke the record, ended up only playing three innings.
Yet you also had Sammy Sosa on his tail, which
was another reason why he probably had to play in Cincinnati,
but they played him for three innings, went zero for two,
and then was removed from the game after three innings.
So those were some sports letdowns the day after history
(40:40):
in Major League Baseball. We'll have more of these throughout
the show as well, maybe even venturing into other sports
as well. But as it stands, Doug Leeds with one
over Jason and Chris.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
The day after a lot of you are if you're
at your lake house, you listen to us or whatever,
you're at the beach, you're at a verbo or even
at home. Will you wake up and you're like, it's
not just cleaning up the inside with the cookout, right now,
you got to clean up the marks made by all
the fireworks, right That's one of those things, like the
day after that's a good was that the thinking of
(41:13):
the letdown?
Speaker 5 (41:14):
It was I just think, like, July fifth's probably, you know,
gets a bad rap because it's not July fourth, So
I thought, what about these other great moments? And then
what happened the day after?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
This is a really good fourth July though on a Thursday,
so that everybody's like, eh, I'm off for a Friday,
and then Saturday Sunday, and then you come back kind
of completely refreshed and we start all over again, which
brings us to what I want to get to next hour.
Okay and Dan and I are gigantic football games.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
We both are.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Both of our favorite college football teams are OSU, his Is,
Ohio State, Mines Oklahoma State. Both will be going through
massive changes in terms of who they play. Have we
started to conceptualize just how different college football is going
to be this year. Believe us, we'll share it with you.
(42:02):
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