July 8, 2024 • 36 mins
Travis family gets a new puppy. Replay of NYT breaking Berenson's story while he was on the air with us. White House explanation on the Parkinson's doctor story isn't plausible. Biden loses Rob Reiner and Stephen King. Clay's family friend neurologist calls in about Biden's observed behavior and symptoms. Where the Dems stand.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Third hour of Clay in Bucket's going right now. A
lot of news today, a lot happening for the early
phase here of July, after the Independence Day weekend. I
hope you all took my advice. I don't know if
you even saw this play, but when it comes to
barbecue cookouts, whatever one in doubt, you're the grocery storts,
get some sausage. It's the universal. The constant goes with everything.
(00:30):
All of them taste good. You can't overcook it. You
can't relieve an undercook it because they're usually pre cooked.
And you know, whether you're going for a hot and
spicy Italian Cherisa, whatever, sausage always it always gets eaten, right, People,
I've been through this a million times, whether I'm with
friends or family, They're like, I don't know, do we
need that sausage. The answers yes. The answer is always yes.
(00:50):
You're probably not even a sausage guy. You're very healthy.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I I'm very healthy. I mean my wife just drove
off the road if she heard that.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Look, I.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I was more focused on the fireworks. We had double
firework displays to take the boys too. I didn't cook
at all. We were down in Florida. I don't cook
well to begin with, but we did have some good
patriotic American eats, whether it's hot dogs, whether it's sausages,
whether it's hamburgers, and they were not cooked to like
(01:23):
Chuck Schumer tried to cook his hamburgers, if you remember
his first step on the grill.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And can I also just throw out there, I'm not
trying to jump ahead of things, but you have some
very we're gonna get in all the news the day.
In a second, I promised you the big stuff from
this morning. I was watching morning. Joe Biden says he's
staying in now. The White House. Logs have shown, thanks
for our friend Alex Bearnson, that there was a Parkinson's
expert visiting many times in the last year the Biden Whitehouse.
(01:49):
But Clay, you have a new friend.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
We do we have.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The Travis family has added a puppy. I have one
of the relative of your puppy. I guess your dog
is not really a puppy anymore, but ginger same group
of of of individuals. Australian labridoodle there is a picture
if you if you are Clay's dog, is my dog's
(02:14):
step brother. Just to be clear here actual step brother.
They have the same dad from the same breeder. Half brother. Wait,
I'm sorry half brother. Yeah, step dogs. I just like
the movie so much.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
The dog the dogs are not divorced.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I h the if you need a cute explosion because
you are just like man. There's so much negativity out there.
There is a picture of my recently graduated third grader.
He would say that he is now a fourth grader,
my nine year old holding this puppy that I believe
(02:50):
is up at Clayanbuck dot com if you just want
to see a joyful picture. It is my nine year
old holding this six week old puppy and he is ecstatic.
The family is ecstatic. So we have a new puppy
in the Travis household that has been very well received,
and I think that many people could use something very
(03:14):
happy given all the chaos.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's going on on a day to day basis. Yes,
Tutus level ten out of ten. All right, let's take
you back to where we are here with the dog's name.
You want to tell everybody or No.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Seven seven is the dog's name, not just for Mickey Mantle,
which obviously was I think that on Seinfeld. It is
we're basically saying, this is my parents' seventh grandchild. So
my mom and dad. Mom's about to turn eighty next week,
she is going to have we think a new grandchild
(03:47):
here seven, so it wud be the seventh grandchild. Six
five boys and one one granddaughter, five granddaughters, five grandsons,
one granddaughter from my parents. And so now they have
a puppy. So we're calling him seven. So that is
seven has arrived in the Travis household and he has
been very well received so far. He's incredibly cute and
(04:10):
lots of fun. It's the best. Puppies are the best.
All right, Well maybe babies are the best, but puppies
are number two.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
All right, here we go. We have Biden this morning
calling into Morning Joe, as we talked about, and really
today was supposed to be the counter coup against the
anti Bidenistas. They were trying to turn back the tide
and it was working. You were seeing a lot of
positive stuff. All of a sudden, people are John Fetterman,
(04:37):
which I think I think Fetterman's a very effective spokesman
for Biden in this moment, because first of all, Pennsylvania critical.
Biden loses Pennsylvania, I think he's done. I mean, I know, theoretically,
but if you told me that Biden, if Pennsylvania was
off the board for Biden, you know, if you could,
just for the purposes of betting, I would be I'd
give you ten to one that Trump is gonna win.
(04:59):
It's very, very, very high. So he's effective for that reason.
But also because he got elected when he was recovering
from a stroke. He did have cognition issues. Recovering from
the stroke, he seems to have gotten better and has
actually been one of the saner Senate Democrats of the
last you know, seven or eight months. So he's very
effective in that regard. Also, I think because he shows
(05:20):
that the Democrat machine can elect people even who have
cognitive issues. I don't know how else to put it.
So that happened. But then we had this big breaking
news story. We had Alex Parentson on do we have
this audio? Guy? Yeah, do we have this? We do.
Let's get this cueued up. Because we had Alex Parentson
on unreported truths on substack. I'm a subscriber. So as
Clay recommend, that's how we knew about it, right, So
(05:43):
we saw the story a whole. On a second, someone's
visited the White House? Who has, you know, from Walter
Reid with particular expertise in Parkinson's disease, and visited every
month for what eight months? That seems like a big deal.
Alex was on and this is what happened when we
were on air talking about it. Play. We've got Alex's
substack right now. Oh, sorry to cut you off. New
(06:05):
York Times, New York Times, just breaking Alex as we're
talking to you. Parkinson's expert visited the White House eight
times in eight months. Lead story, lead story up at
New York Times dot com. Just up right now, literally
as we are discussing with you why they are not
covering it.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Guys, I gotta go, and I think you know why.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yep, all right, man, that could just be clear. We
Alex broke it. We gave it. We put Alex on
the air, and now the entire country is about to
be talking about this, The entire news cycle is about
to be obsessed with this.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Uh, go subscribe. This is why we tell you go
subscribe to Alex a subsets literally lead story right now,
New York Times, just as we're talking to you live here.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Everybody. Wow, that is quite a thing. All right, Alex,
go save the clay right now, New York Times. That
was an hour ago. Still top of the fold online
defind Biden, Dar's Democrats to challenge me at the convention.
Number two right below at Parkinson's expert visit the White
House eight times in eight months. Oh, we've got careinne
(07:08):
Jean Pierre. Oh, this is going to be quite a
press conference. I'm sure we've got are Jean Pierre press
conference coming up momentarily as well. I think that everything
here is about the timeline, meaning if they can just
hold out, if they can hold out against the replaced
Biden chorus until the convention, then it doesn't. At that point,
(07:29):
there's no it doesn't. There's nothing that can be done,
right except for him to say that my vice president's
taking over and effectively I'm no longer running in a
meaningful way. You know, That's what would happened if Biden,
let's say, had a heart attack or something. I mean,
we would know that Kamala Harris would take over. But
that's it. And I think that it's going to be
(07:50):
interesting here for a day or two. Do you think
that their story of a lot of people go to
the White House for a lot of reasons, no big deal.
You think that's gonna manage to put this story to bed.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
No, Because if I told you that somebody in the
White House had an amputated leg, and they brought in
the foremost amputated leg expert to visit the White House
eight times, would you respond if the White House said, well,
there's lots of people with all sorts of medical related
(08:22):
conditions that are.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Treated that well, is true.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
They don't get treated at the White House between seven
and nine am on Fridays eight different months.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
If you or I have an issue at work.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It would make sense that maybe a doctor comes once
you and I are live on the air, something goes wrong,
doctor shows up, they treat us at our place of work.
That doesn't happen eight different times. You don't have, especially
a disease like Parkinson's, you don't have someone show going
(09:00):
up at the White House to meet their doctor unless
it's someone who lives there that is being treated. This
is this is a bad argument that they're trying to
trot out there. And let's also let's also take a
moment to see just from your own life. You see
the doctor wants to find out if you have a problem.
You see the doctor every month for eight months to
be treated.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
For a problem. Correct. This is the problem that I
think they have right now. This is the challenge in
convincing people that it's no big deal. I do think
that they're they're giving Biden stuff. We've said this all along.
We'ven had some doctors call in before the debate talking
to us about what they can give that will create
more mental clarity at least while a person's on the
(09:43):
getting the effect of the drug. I think that Biden
is receiving things to help his cognition. And I think
that it is also just as as an aside. But
I really think this is this is a big aside. Clay.
Notice how it is the fact that Donald Trump is
facing theoretically three more criminal indictments, and also in September
(10:08):
is going to be sentenced for a convict. It's not
even no one cares, It's not even a story right now,
No one's even right attention. You're in an election year
with a felony conviction, and we all know it's garbage.
I'm not saying, oh, phility conviction, but just to think
about this, how crazy it is. And three criminal conviction,
I mean three criminal trials rather theoretically still ahead of him,
(10:30):
and nobody cares. Nobody cares right now because the Biden
thing is, what were the chances six months ago? I
told you Trump would have all four of these criminal
cases coming to a head in the election year, and
that would be a secondary story at best to Joe
Biden doesn't have a brain that works. This is where
(10:50):
we are. It's twenty twenty four. This is wild stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, and some people out there say, well, talk more
about Trump.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Trump is right now, got his marsh smellows out sitting
beside the bonnet Biden bonfire making s'mores to tie in
the July fourth analogy here, the campfire analogy. When your
opponent is lighting himself on fire, you don't even need
to be telling your story. There's a story out there
(11:19):
that Trump's been playing golf every morning. Good for him.
Every morning Joe Biden's team wakes up and they light
themselves on fire, and it is a huge story. Now
next week we're going to be at the Republican National Convention,
and in theory, that's actually beneficial. Buck, I bet you
would agree to Biden because it forces the Republicans to
(11:42):
take away some of the storylines. I would tell you
it would actually be better. I think if the Republicans
just said, hey, yeah, we don't really need to have
a primetime convention. We'll have a big speech with Trump
on Thursday, I don't even think they need to do anything.
I don't want them to take away the attention.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You also have this Biden letter to Congress, which we
read some in the first hour. Biden's team, i should say,
has written this letter to Congress. It's a pretty good letter.
You know, they had smart people writing it, because I
think it makes a case that is as good a
case for Biden to stay in as can be made
at this point. But it's also you know, I mentioned
(12:22):
the Trump thing. In the background of all this, Another
thing in the background of all this is Joe Biden
did win their primary. Oh yeah, what does that say
about Democrat primary voters that they all went along with
this guy and now we're sitting here saying, is his
dementia doctor going to be his undoing do you know
what I'm saying, like, yeah, there was no during the
(12:45):
actual voting, there was not a word from Democrats about
how this guy probably has whatever it is Louis Body
Parkinson something. And this is where we are now, and
Biden's right, you meaning the Democrats all wanted him to
be the nominee as of a few months ago.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I don't think it's better than that for him, Buck
because he cites in the letter Dean Phillips actually made
the exact argument that they're making now, and then he
was a JJE did it. And it wasn't just that
he It wasn't like a Bernie Sanders challenging Hillary thing
that that shook up Hillary world. That was a real
chance the Dean Phillip. No one even remembered his name.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'll be honest. There were days when I was like, yeah,
that other guy running for the Democrat nomination. I didn't
remember his name, and I do this for a lash.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
News he got was when he had the event and
no one showed up.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Remember we talked about him.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Maybe it was it's better to have no one show
up that have like three people show up.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Sometimes you build it and no one comes was an
amazing line actually to his credit from Dean Phillips, where
like he got the most attention in his entire campaign
from an event I believe he had in New Hampshire
that no one showed up for. But I think that
actually helps Biden because he can say this was litigated already.
He came after for my health, said I wasn't up
(14:01):
to it, and the Democrat elector it showed up and
said you're wrong. Dean Phillips, Biden's the guy. Now, what
is next? That's the question I all this week. It's
a it's a blow and it's a counter blow. Biden
team comes out with the letter and with the call
into morning. Joe New York Times comes out. It says, hey,
eight different visits by a Parkinson's expert. What else do
(14:25):
they have in the quiver? We'll talk about that a
little bit more. We also have a neurologist and expert
who was scheduled to join us I think at thirty
that I know well family friend who has been talking
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(14:47):
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(16:46):
post some things on Instagram, I'll post things as well.
That's pretty much it. Although the show is everywhere any
social media outlet out there, you can find us. Rob
Reiner and Stephen King, who are two of the most
ranged anti Trump people. They're not even focused on Trump
really right now. Both of them have demanded that Biden
(17:08):
step down. And if you're wondering how much of a
mess this is for Democrats. I don't know if you
do this fuck every now and then. I know you
watch Morning Joe partly for this reason. I went in
just to read the mentions underneath Stephen King and Rob
Reiner's decision to call for Joe Biden to step down,
And it is pretty incredible to read all of the
(17:29):
Democrats losing their minds right now. Again, when your opponent's
on fire, don't bring a fire extinguisher to put them out.
Let them keep burning. The Democrat flames just keep growing
every day. Trump's doing a great job. I think of
avoiding taking away that attention right now.
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Speaker 3 (18:58):
All right, we've been talking about the Biden health related
issue and the woman I'm about to put on with
us doctor in the Nashville area. Family friend, allow you
to give all of your different sort of biography here
from purposes of a doctor related analysis, But you have
(19:20):
been talking with me and my family for some time
about what you see as a neurologist in terms of
Joe Biden's physical and mental health. Give us your background
if you would, and then kind of walk through what
your diagnosis of Biden would suggest.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Well, Hello, nice to talk to you today. Yeah, I've
been a neurologist for seventeen years. I do general neurology
with some specialization, but you know, it's something Biden is
a little bit difficulty when you're not in the room,
but it's but there's some obvious traits that he's been
(20:01):
exhibiting for years and we're talking since gosh, since dating
back to the debates in twenty and twenty before that election,
he was having some difficulties with cognition certainly first, and
he certainly is you know, has has memory loss. He
does have a dementia, and everyone has to remember that
(20:22):
the word dementia is more of an umbrella term where
there's lots of different types of dementia's the most common,
of course, being Alzheimer's disease, but you know that doesn't
necessarily mean that he has that. More typically we see
the you know, the Alzheimer's disease, but we also have
front of temporal dementia, Basket of dementia, and Louis Valley dementia.
(20:43):
And what's interesting is that the movement disorder specialist of
Parkinson's disease coming to the White House is especially interesting
because the Front of temple dementia patients do exhibit a
lot of parkinsonian features that can be associate with that diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
How much can be done? Doc, thanks for being with us.
This is often talked about with with the medicines for
I know, you know, no one knows what a specific
diagnosis is for Joe Biden right now on this or
what whether he has one or not, and what it
would be. But in general terms, I mean when it
comes to things like Louis body, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, things we've
(21:22):
discussed here, is there a lot that can be done
with treatment these days for someone who's in Biden's position,
who's trying to still function at a particularly high level.
Or are the drugs pretty limited in their effect?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
So right, it kind of depends on which diagnosis it
is correct. So paces with Parkinson's disease, for instance, and
we're telling and I'm talking about idiopathic Parkinson's disease primary,
not the secondary parkinson ism, but primary Parkinson's, do these
patients do you fairly well and respond well to something
called carvedopa leba dopa Because what it is is it's
(21:56):
so typically a movement disorder that has a lack of
dopamine or a neurotrans center that helps us initiate movements,
and that's you see with Biden. With President Biden with
his slowness of movement, difficulty initiating movements, the stooped posture,
difficultly with walking, gates, masked or expressionless space. Those are
(22:16):
typical things that can be helped, and particularly tremor, but
you don't see a tremor necessarily with President Biden. But
those types of symptoms can be managed quite well with carbon.
Don't believe a DOPA. Parkinsonism, on the other hand, due
to a different cognitive problem or neurodegenerative problem, are not
(22:39):
as well treated with the carbon. Don't believe a DOPA,
and they just try to treat the symptoms as they come,
and it's not really well if he can't really manage
it as well as you'd like. Particularly Louis body dementia,
you see a very rapid decline, a lot of fluctuation
of cognitive status, meaning that one day Grandpa might look
(23:02):
really great and the next time you see him, Gosh,
Granpa doesn't look very well. The swings of cognition and
mental collapse are very common in that diagnosis.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
We're talking to a doctor in Nashville. Family friend who
has been talking about this for some time. I want
to ask you. You mentioned that you could go back
and look at the twenty twenty debates and start to
see some potential symptoms of an issue, when we now
have a report coming out from the New York Times
which also cites in that article many different neurologists as
(23:34):
saying what you're telling us, that there are a lot
of symptoms he is exhibiting. When you hear that they've
had eight different visits in basically the last eight months
or so to the White House, and you see, as
all of us do, the different videos of him seeming
to freeze up during the June teenth, looking filled with
(23:56):
lack of comfort in many different ways. Does this appear
to you to be progressing? And if it is, how
fast can progressions like these go?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
What would a Joe.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Biden in your mind in twenty twenty six or twenty
twenty eight look like based on what you've seen from
twenty twenty four to now.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Well, first of all, I don't really think that the
Parkinson's disease diagnosis is what he has, because what you
saw in the twenty twenty debates and early in the
you know, early two twenty twenties, you know, twenty one,
twenty two, twenty three. You see his memory loss almost
before the movement's got really bad. And to that, to that,
(24:40):
I mean that the dementia that comes with Parkinson's disease
is usually very late in the disease process. He already
exhibited the memory loss features much earlier a lot, and
it kind of coincided with his movement problem. And so
that's why I think it tends to be more of
the neurodegenerative change blue by dementia. Now that being said,
(25:01):
now Parkinson's patients can typically works fairly well. I mean,
we had Michael J. Fox, for instance, who was even
on the movie set, doing fairly well and trying to
work as an actor with the diagnosis of the idiopathic
Parkinson's disease, trying to manage maybe overmanaged with some of
his carbidope believe a dopa as he had exhibited, you know,
(25:25):
initiation of movement problems and over stimulated himself a little
bit with the CARBI. Don't believe a dopas because it
makes you feel good, Hey, doctor problem doctor hensha is
you Yeah, the Louis body dementia. However, will progress very
fairly rapidly. It doesn't. It won't. It won't. The memory
(25:46):
problems especially will you'll progress, and certainly by twenty twenty six.
I don't think the few people you'll see a definite decline.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
General question, Doc, And it ties into that for somebody
who has one of these conditions that we're discussing here,
does the stress of I mean, look, it's the stress
of being the president we're talking about. But does staying
in a high stress job, you know, effect the day
to day of the progression of the disease? You know,
(26:16):
it's like if you if you were in a super
high stress role and you were at risk of stroke, Like,
that's not a good idea, right, or maybe heart attack
not a good idea? What about with this, Like, does
it make it worse if there's more taxing demands on
your mind?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah? With any type of dementia, and I'm particularly thinking
that President Biden has the luid paty type, it will
be important to have a routine. You have to be
very careful and getting good sleep, and you can only
function just a few hours out of the day. We
(26:52):
as neurologists will tell patients to kind of use the
best times with mom or dad or grandpa grandma, at
the times when they're really really good, maybe between the
hours of seven am and eleven am, because after that
it's really not help. They can't function well. So it's
really important for them to be on a good routine.
You know, at my patients with lui bad de menia,
(27:14):
we'll take the keys away. I mean, we don't let
them drive a car. You just can't function at a
normal They have to be watched all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So let me let me build on that. Let's say
that this this these doctors that are trying to treat
Joe Biden. We were talking about on the air that
there's a patient confidentiality aspects of that. But you just
mentioned taking away the keys of the car. Obviously the
president's not driving himself. But what obligations or responsibilities do
(27:45):
you think a doctor treating someone in a position of
this significance might uniquely have as part of being a
doctor that is different than you treating somebody's grandma or grandpa.
How does that play into the way that you would
respond and be treating someone in a position like this.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, certainly what these doctors are doing is trying to
give medicines that might help you. Start with karby. Don't
believe it, don't, but to see if any of the
parkinsonian features help you. Start with the maybe some medicine
at not to stop the sundowning or the confusion that
occurs in the nighttime hours, but the you know, every
physician takes a hypocritical and that hypocritical is to do
(28:27):
no harm. And so the doctors have a responsibility to
do no harm to the patient, to do no harm.
And the President of the United States has also an
oath to be honest with the country, as you know,
to do no harm, and in his position as well.
So it's really up to the physicians to honor that
(28:47):
oath of to do no harm. And certainly letting patients
do a job that they cannot fully function in is
doing harm.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
What do you think last question for you, and thank
you for the time here. What do you think doctor
Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife would be seeing behind the
scenes compared to what we see in public. In other words,
I'm sure when you talk to a lot of your patients,
one of the people that's bringing them in kids, you know, wives, husbands,
(29:21):
whoever it might be because of what they see that
others might not see, and initially they may not want
to believe it. They might not want to believe that
their life partner is having these sort of challenges. From
a psychological perspective, what do you think she's going through?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
What do you think she's seeing?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Because we're only seeing Joe Biden, the President of the
United States for five percent of the day at most,
what do you think she's seeing behind the scenes?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Right? And there's a reason why you're seeing only at
five percent of the day, right, because it can cognitively
only be there five for some of the day. You know,
it is really tough on caregivers and family members. The
diagnost we've died. Dementia in particular is difficult because of
the fluctuation of the cognitive status and the swings that
you'd see. But more importantly, you know, if you could really,
(30:10):
if I could talk to him, it would be interesting
to hear if he'd have any that Most of the
patients do have some visual hallucinations. For instance, they might
see some animals or people that aren't there, and typically
they don't even bother the patient. They'll admit that they
see them, but they're not truly hallucinations that are bothersome
to the patient. But he might so he might be taught,
(30:31):
you know, being able to talk. He certainly wouldn't tell
us that, but that would be one of the things.
Sundowning at night. The confusion at night is a big
problem with patients with any type of dementia. Remember that
any any type of dementia would have sun downing. That's
what it's called. And then there's certainly some executive function problems,
(30:53):
some kind of a disinhibition where they do things or
safe things that they might not we might not want
them to say. Book might be what they're saying at home.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Doc, really appreciate the expertise telling us about what the
possibilities are here. And thank you so much for calling in.
And we may have to have you back, so please
keep your pager. Wait do you guys still have but
you don't have pagers anymore?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Here, okay, thanks Doc, thank you, thanks for being with us. So, yeah, Clay,
remember that when doctors were doctors, obulers had pages and
that was pretty much it for a while.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, and kids who were trying to seem like really
big deals in high school, do you remember that, like
one or two kids in a classroom, but my mom's
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Speaker 3 (33:41):
Appreciate the doc who just swung by to break down
as she sees it neurologists. Long time seventeen year practicing
doctor with what she sees, and that squares with much
of what many are saying, including the New York Times itself,
which quoted many different doctors as diagnosing Biden with a
(34:02):
variety of different issues. Hers l Ewy Lewis body disease
is what she would say is the most likely of
the issues that Joe Biden might have out there. Buck,
I think the biggest takeaway here as we come down
this week is I mentioned this, how many other stories
(34:25):
are out there that the New York Times or the
Washington Post or Politico or axios are going to deploy
because the Biden team is letting it be known we
ain't going anywhere, And so how do you dislodge them
from this position? What is the story that would do it?
That's really the question for this week, I think, more
(34:46):
so than anything else, I think you would have to
have somebody who and look this. It would be criminal
to do this.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I'm obviously not advocating it, but if somebody got access
to Biden's personal medical files and it came out that
he had been done diagnosed with Louis body for example,
which our doctor that we just had on who's excellent,
was talking about us, she thinks the most likely scenario here.
I think that would be too much, but meaning too
(35:14):
much for the Biden team to be able to hold
it off. Clay, I think that they're doug I think
they're absolutely dug in. I think that this is their
election twenty twenty four Alamo, and they're going to fight
it out till the very end, and that's their approach.
I do not see this changing. So and even the
inducements the more I thought about it, what can you
(35:37):
induce Biden with that he thinks is better than what
he could get if he were to become president again?
You know what I mean? That's the challenge you have.
I don't think there's any threats you can make against
Biden that will work, because remember, this is a guy
who has got to be thinking he doesn't have that
much time left anyway, so why not go out on
his own terms? And I mentioned this, people have started
(35:58):
to talk about Clay about how Biden's Biden regrets very
much not running in twenty sixteen, and listen to people
around him who said, don't run, don't run, and he's
never making that mistake again. This is the this is
the scuttle butt on the Internet right now. Think about
Kamala Harris, which we don't talk about that much. If
(36:19):
the DEI higher is on a basically.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Her political career could end because the old white guy
will not actually step down and her career is over potential.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
The Democrat Party is looking at a DEI hire and
a dementia patient and saying we want the dementia people.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
That's where we are go back
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Slay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of
truth
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Third hour of Clay in Bucket's going right now. A
lot of news today, a lot happening for the early
phase here of July, after the Independence Day weekend. I
hope you all took my advice. I don't know if
you even saw this play, but when it comes to
barbecue cookouts, whatever one in doubt, you're the grocery storts,
get some sausage. It's the universal. The constant goes with everything.
(00:30):
All of them taste good. You can't overcook it. You
can't relieve an undercook it because they're usually pre cooked.
And you know, whether you're going for a hot and
spicy Italian Cherisa, whatever, sausage always it always gets eaten, right, People,
I've been through this a million times, whether I'm with
friends or family, They're like, I don't know, do we
need that sausage. The answers yes. The answer is always yes.
(00:50):
You're probably not even a sausage guy. You're very healthy.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I I'm very healthy. I mean my wife just drove
off the road if she heard that.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Look, I.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I was more focused on the fireworks. We had double
firework displays to take the boys too. I didn't cook
at all. We were down in Florida. I don't cook
well to begin with, but we did have some good
patriotic American eats, whether it's hot dogs, whether it's sausages,
whether it's hamburgers, and they were not cooked to like
(01:23):
Chuck Schumer tried to cook his hamburgers, if you remember
his first step on the grill.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And can I also just throw out there, I'm not
trying to jump ahead of things, but you have some
very we're gonna get in all the news the day.
In a second, I promised you the big stuff from
this morning. I was watching morning. Joe Biden says he's
staying in now. The White House. Logs have shown, thanks
for our friend Alex Bearnson, that there was a Parkinson's
expert visiting many times in the last year the Biden Whitehouse.
(01:49):
But Clay, you have a new friend.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
We do we have.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The Travis family has added a puppy. I have one
of the relative of your puppy. I guess your dog
is not really a puppy anymore, but ginger same group
of of of individuals. Australian labridoodle there is a picture
if you if you are Clay's dog, is my dog's
(02:14):
step brother. Just to be clear here actual step brother.
They have the same dad from the same breeder. Half brother. Wait,
I'm sorry half brother. Yeah, step dogs. I just like
the movie so much.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
The dog the dogs are not divorced.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I h the if you need a cute explosion because
you are just like man. There's so much negativity out there.
There is a picture of my recently graduated third grader.
He would say that he is now a fourth grader,
my nine year old holding this puppy that I believe
(02:50):
is up at Clayanbuck dot com if you just want
to see a joyful picture. It is my nine year
old holding this six week old puppy and he is ecstatic.
The family is ecstatic. So we have a new puppy
in the Travis household that has been very well received,
and I think that many people could use something very
(03:14):
happy given all the chaos.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's going on on a day to day basis. Yes,
Tutus level ten out of ten. All right, let's take
you back to where we are here with the dog's name.
You want to tell everybody or No.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Seven seven is the dog's name, not just for Mickey Mantle,
which obviously was I think that on Seinfeld. It is
we're basically saying, this is my parents' seventh grandchild. So
my mom and dad. Mom's about to turn eighty next week,
she is going to have we think a new grandchild
(03:47):
here seven, so it wud be the seventh grandchild. Six
five boys and one one granddaughter, five granddaughters, five grandsons,
one granddaughter from my parents. And so now they have
a puppy. So we're calling him seven. So that is
seven has arrived in the Travis household and he has
been very well received so far. He's incredibly cute and
(04:10):
lots of fun. It's the best. Puppies are the best.
All right, Well maybe babies are the best, but puppies
are number two.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
All right, here we go. We have Biden this morning
calling into Morning Joe, as we talked about, and really
today was supposed to be the counter coup against the
anti Bidenistas. They were trying to turn back the tide
and it was working. You were seeing a lot of
positive stuff. All of a sudden, people are John Fetterman,
(04:37):
which I think I think Fetterman's a very effective spokesman
for Biden in this moment, because first of all, Pennsylvania critical.
Biden loses Pennsylvania, I think he's done. I mean, I know, theoretically,
but if you told me that Biden, if Pennsylvania was
off the board for Biden, you know, if you could,
just for the purposes of betting, I would be I'd
give you ten to one that Trump is gonna win.
(04:59):
It's very, very, very high. So he's effective for that reason.
But also because he got elected when he was recovering
from a stroke. He did have cognition issues. Recovering from
the stroke, he seems to have gotten better and has
actually been one of the saner Senate Democrats of the
last you know, seven or eight months. So he's very
effective in that regard. Also, I think because he shows
(05:20):
that the Democrat machine can elect people even who have
cognitive issues. I don't know how else to put it.
So that happened. But then we had this big breaking
news story. We had Alex Parentson on do we have
this audio? Guy? Yeah, do we have this? We do.
Let's get this cueued up. Because we had Alex Parentson
on unreported truths on substack. I'm a subscriber. So as
Clay recommend, that's how we knew about it, right, So
(05:43):
we saw the story a whole. On a second, someone's
visited the White House? Who has, you know, from Walter
Reid with particular expertise in Parkinson's disease, and visited every
month for what eight months? That seems like a big deal.
Alex was on and this is what happened when we
were on air talking about it. Play. We've got Alex's
substack right now. Oh, sorry to cut you off. New
(06:05):
York Times, New York Times, just breaking Alex as we're
talking to you. Parkinson's expert visited the White House eight
times in eight months. Lead story, lead story up at
New York Times dot com. Just up right now, literally
as we are discussing with you why they are not
covering it.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Guys, I gotta go, and I think you know why.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yep, all right, man, that could just be clear. We
Alex broke it. We gave it. We put Alex on
the air, and now the entire country is about to
be talking about this, The entire news cycle is about
to be obsessed with this.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Uh, go subscribe. This is why we tell you go
subscribe to Alex a subsets literally lead story right now,
New York Times, just as we're talking to you live here.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Everybody. Wow, that is quite a thing. All right, Alex,
go save the clay right now, New York Times. That
was an hour ago. Still top of the fold online
defind Biden, Dar's Democrats to challenge me at the convention.
Number two right below at Parkinson's expert visit the White
House eight times in eight months. Oh, we've got careinne
(07:08):
Jean Pierre. Oh, this is going to be quite a
press conference. I'm sure we've got are Jean Pierre press
conference coming up momentarily as well. I think that everything
here is about the timeline, meaning if they can just
hold out, if they can hold out against the replaced
Biden chorus until the convention, then it doesn't. At that point,
(07:29):
there's no it doesn't. There's nothing that can be done,
right except for him to say that my vice president's
taking over and effectively I'm no longer running in a
meaningful way. You know, That's what would happened if Biden,
let's say, had a heart attack or something. I mean,
we would know that Kamala Harris would take over. But
that's it. And I think that it's going to be
(07:50):
interesting here for a day or two. Do you think
that their story of a lot of people go to
the White House for a lot of reasons, no big deal.
You think that's gonna manage to put this story to bed.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
No, Because if I told you that somebody in the
White House had an amputated leg, and they brought in
the foremost amputated leg expert to visit the White House
eight times, would you respond if the White House said, well,
there's lots of people with all sorts of medical related
(08:22):
conditions that are.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Treated that well, is true.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
They don't get treated at the White House between seven
and nine am on Fridays eight different months.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
If you or I have an issue at work.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It would make sense that maybe a doctor comes once
you and I are live on the air, something goes wrong,
doctor shows up, they treat us at our place of work.
That doesn't happen eight different times. You don't have, especially
a disease like Parkinson's, you don't have someone show going
(09:00):
up at the White House to meet their doctor unless
it's someone who lives there that is being treated. This
is this is a bad argument that they're trying to
trot out there. And let's also let's also take a
moment to see just from your own life. You see
the doctor wants to find out if you have a problem.
You see the doctor every month for eight months to
be treated.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
For a problem. Correct. This is the problem that I
think they have right now. This is the challenge in
convincing people that it's no big deal. I do think
that they're they're giving Biden stuff. We've said this all along.
We'ven had some doctors call in before the debate talking
to us about what they can give that will create
more mental clarity at least while a person's on the
(09:43):
getting the effect of the drug. I think that Biden
is receiving things to help his cognition. And I think
that it is also just as as an aside. But
I really think this is this is a big aside. Clay.
Notice how it is the fact that Donald Trump is
facing theoretically three more criminal indictments, and also in September
(10:08):
is going to be sentenced for a convict. It's not
even no one cares, It's not even a story right now,
No one's even right attention. You're in an election year
with a felony conviction, and we all know it's garbage.
I'm not saying, oh, phility conviction, but just to think
about this, how crazy it is. And three criminal conviction,
I mean three criminal trials rather theoretically still ahead of him,
(10:30):
and nobody cares. Nobody cares right now because the Biden
thing is, what were the chances six months ago? I
told you Trump would have all four of these criminal
cases coming to a head in the election year, and
that would be a secondary story at best to Joe
Biden doesn't have a brain that works. This is where
(10:50):
we are. It's twenty twenty four. This is wild stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, and some people out there say, well, talk more
about Trump.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Trump is right now, got his marsh smellows out sitting
beside the bonnet Biden bonfire making s'mores to tie in
the July fourth analogy here, the campfire analogy. When your
opponent is lighting himself on fire, you don't even need
to be telling your story. There's a story out there
(11:19):
that Trump's been playing golf every morning. Good for him.
Every morning Joe Biden's team wakes up and they light
themselves on fire, and it is a huge story. Now
next week we're going to be at the Republican National Convention,
and in theory, that's actually beneficial. Buck, I bet you
would agree to Biden because it forces the Republicans to
(11:42):
take away some of the storylines. I would tell you
it would actually be better. I think if the Republicans
just said, hey, yeah, we don't really need to have
a primetime convention. We'll have a big speech with Trump
on Thursday, I don't even think they need to do anything.
I don't want them to take away the attention.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You also have this Biden letter to Congress, which we
read some in the first hour. Biden's team, i should say,
has written this letter to Congress. It's a pretty good letter.
You know, they had smart people writing it, because I
think it makes a case that is as good a
case for Biden to stay in as can be made
at this point. But it's also you know, I mentioned
(12:22):
the Trump thing. In the background of all this, Another
thing in the background of all this is Joe Biden
did win their primary. Oh yeah, what does that say
about Democrat primary voters that they all went along with
this guy and now we're sitting here saying, is his
dementia doctor going to be his undoing do you know
what I'm saying, like, yeah, there was no during the
(12:45):
actual voting, there was not a word from Democrats about
how this guy probably has whatever it is Louis Body
Parkinson something. And this is where we are now, and
Biden's right, you meaning the Democrats all wanted him to
be the nominee as of a few months ago.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I don't think it's better than that for him, Buck
because he cites in the letter Dean Phillips actually made
the exact argument that they're making now, and then he
was a JJE did it. And it wasn't just that
he It wasn't like a Bernie Sanders challenging Hillary thing
that that shook up Hillary world. That was a real
chance the Dean Phillip. No one even remembered his name.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'll be honest. There were days when I was like, yeah,
that other guy running for the Democrat nomination. I didn't
remember his name, and I do this for a lash.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
News he got was when he had the event and
no one showed up.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Remember we talked about him.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Maybe it was it's better to have no one show
up that have like three people show up.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Sometimes you build it and no one comes was an
amazing line actually to his credit from Dean Phillips, where
like he got the most attention in his entire campaign
from an event I believe he had in New Hampshire
that no one showed up for. But I think that
actually helps Biden because he can say this was litigated already.
He came after for my health, said I wasn't up
(14:01):
to it, and the Democrat elector it showed up and
said you're wrong. Dean Phillips, Biden's the guy. Now, what
is next? That's the question I all this week. It's
a it's a blow and it's a counter blow. Biden
team comes out with the letter and with the call
into morning. Joe New York Times comes out. It says, hey,
eight different visits by a Parkinson's expert. What else do
(14:25):
they have in the quiver? We'll talk about that a
little bit more. We also have a neurologist and expert
who was scheduled to join us I think at thirty
that I know well family friend who has been talking
about this for a while. In the meantime, made some
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(14:47):
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(16:46):
post some things on Instagram, I'll post things as well.
That's pretty much it. Although the show is everywhere any
social media outlet out there, you can find us. Rob
Reiner and Stephen King, who are two of the most
ranged anti Trump people. They're not even focused on Trump
really right now. Both of them have demanded that Biden
(17:08):
step down. And if you're wondering how much of a
mess this is for Democrats. I don't know if you
do this fuck every now and then. I know you
watch Morning Joe partly for this reason. I went in
just to read the mentions underneath Stephen King and Rob
Reiner's decision to call for Joe Biden to step down,
And it is pretty incredible to read all of the
(17:29):
Democrats losing their minds right now. Again, when your opponent's
on fire, don't bring a fire extinguisher to put them out.
Let them keep burning. The Democrat flames just keep growing
every day. Trump's doing a great job. I think of
avoiding taking away that attention right now.
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Speaker 3 (18:58):
All right, we've been talking about the Biden health related
issue and the woman I'm about to put on with
us doctor in the Nashville area. Family friend, allow you
to give all of your different sort of biography here
from purposes of a doctor related analysis, But you have
(19:20):
been talking with me and my family for some time
about what you see as a neurologist in terms of
Joe Biden's physical and mental health. Give us your background
if you would, and then kind of walk through what
your diagnosis of Biden would suggest.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Well, Hello, nice to talk to you today. Yeah, I've
been a neurologist for seventeen years. I do general neurology
with some specialization, but you know, it's something Biden is
a little bit difficulty when you're not in the room,
but it's but there's some obvious traits that he's been
(20:01):
exhibiting for years and we're talking since gosh, since dating
back to the debates in twenty and twenty before that election,
he was having some difficulties with cognition certainly first, and
he certainly is you know, has has memory loss. He
does have a dementia, and everyone has to remember that
(20:22):
the word dementia is more of an umbrella term where
there's lots of different types of dementia's the most common,
of course, being Alzheimer's disease, but you know that doesn't
necessarily mean that he has that. More typically we see
the you know, the Alzheimer's disease, but we also have
front of temporal dementia, Basket of dementia, and Louis Valley dementia.
(20:43):
And what's interesting is that the movement disorder specialist of
Parkinson's disease coming to the White House is especially interesting
because the Front of temple dementia patients do exhibit a
lot of parkinsonian features that can be associate with that diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
How much can be done? Doc, thanks for being with us.
This is often talked about with with the medicines for
I know, you know, no one knows what a specific
diagnosis is for Joe Biden right now on this or
what whether he has one or not, and what it
would be. But in general terms, I mean when it
comes to things like Louis body, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, things we've
(21:22):
discussed here, is there a lot that can be done
with treatment these days for someone who's in Biden's position,
who's trying to still function at a particularly high level.
Or are the drugs pretty limited in their effect?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
So right, it kind of depends on which diagnosis it
is correct. So paces with Parkinson's disease, for instance, and
we're telling and I'm talking about idiopathic Parkinson's disease primary,
not the secondary parkinson ism, but primary Parkinson's, do these
patients do you fairly well and respond well to something
called carvedopa leba dopa Because what it is is it's
(21:56):
so typically a movement disorder that has a lack of
dopamine or a neurotrans center that helps us initiate movements,
and that's you see with Biden. With President Biden with
his slowness of movement, difficulty initiating movements, the stooped posture,
difficultly with walking, gates, masked or expressionless space. Those are
(22:16):
typical things that can be helped, and particularly tremor, but
you don't see a tremor necessarily with President Biden. But
those types of symptoms can be managed quite well with carbon.
Don't believe a DOPA. Parkinsonism, on the other hand, due
to a different cognitive problem or neurodegenerative problem, are not
(22:39):
as well treated with the carbon. Don't believe a DOPA,
and they just try to treat the symptoms as they come,
and it's not really well if he can't really manage
it as well as you'd like. Particularly Louis body dementia,
you see a very rapid decline, a lot of fluctuation
of cognitive status, meaning that one day Grandpa might look
(23:02):
really great and the next time you see him, Gosh,
Granpa doesn't look very well. The swings of cognition and
mental collapse are very common in that diagnosis.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
We're talking to a doctor in Nashville. Family friend who
has been talking about this for some time. I want
to ask you. You mentioned that you could go back
and look at the twenty twenty debates and start to
see some potential symptoms of an issue, when we now
have a report coming out from the New York Times
which also cites in that article many different neurologists as
(23:34):
saying what you're telling us, that there are a lot
of symptoms he is exhibiting. When you hear that they've
had eight different visits in basically the last eight months
or so to the White House, and you see, as
all of us do, the different videos of him seeming
to freeze up during the June teenth, looking filled with
(23:56):
lack of comfort in many different ways. Does this appear
to you to be progressing? And if it is, how
fast can progressions like these go?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
What would a Joe.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Biden in your mind in twenty twenty six or twenty
twenty eight look like based on what you've seen from
twenty twenty four to now.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Well, first of all, I don't really think that the
Parkinson's disease diagnosis is what he has, because what you
saw in the twenty twenty debates and early in the
you know, early two twenty twenties, you know, twenty one,
twenty two, twenty three. You see his memory loss almost
before the movement's got really bad. And to that, to that,
(24:40):
I mean that the dementia that comes with Parkinson's disease
is usually very late in the disease process. He already
exhibited the memory loss features much earlier a lot, and
it kind of coincided with his movement problem. And so
that's why I think it tends to be more of
the neurodegenerative change blue by dementia. Now that being said,
(25:01):
now Parkinson's patients can typically works fairly well. I mean,
we had Michael J. Fox, for instance, who was even
on the movie set, doing fairly well and trying to
work as an actor with the diagnosis of the idiopathic
Parkinson's disease, trying to manage maybe overmanaged with some of
his carbidope believe a dopa as he had exhibited, you know,
(25:25):
initiation of movement problems and over stimulated himself a little
bit with the CARBI. Don't believe a dopas because it
makes you feel good, Hey, doctor problem doctor hensha is
you Yeah, the Louis body dementia. However, will progress very
fairly rapidly. It doesn't. It won't. It won't. The memory
(25:46):
problems especially will you'll progress, and certainly by twenty twenty six.
I don't think the few people you'll see a definite decline.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
General question, Doc, And it ties into that for somebody
who has one of these conditions that we're discussing here,
does the stress of I mean, look, it's the stress
of being the president we're talking about. But does staying
in a high stress job, you know, effect the day
to day of the progression of the disease? You know,
(26:16):
it's like if you if you were in a super
high stress role and you were at risk of stroke, Like,
that's not a good idea, right, or maybe heart attack
not a good idea? What about with this, Like, does
it make it worse if there's more taxing demands on
your mind?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah? With any type of dementia, and I'm particularly thinking
that President Biden has the luid paty type, it will
be important to have a routine. You have to be
very careful and getting good sleep, and you can only
function just a few hours out of the day. We
(26:52):
as neurologists will tell patients to kind of use the
best times with mom or dad or grandpa grandma, at
the times when they're really really good, maybe between the
hours of seven am and eleven am, because after that
it's really not help. They can't function well. So it's
really important for them to be on a good routine.
You know, at my patients with lui bad de menia,
(27:14):
we'll take the keys away. I mean, we don't let
them drive a car. You just can't function at a
normal They have to be watched all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So let me let me build on that. Let's say
that this this these doctors that are trying to treat
Joe Biden. We were talking about on the air that
there's a patient confidentiality aspects of that. But you just
mentioned taking away the keys of the car. Obviously the
president's not driving himself. But what obligations or responsibilities do
(27:45):
you think a doctor treating someone in a position of
this significance might uniquely have as part of being a
doctor that is different than you treating somebody's grandma or grandpa.
How does that play into the way that you would
respond and be treating someone in a position like this.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, certainly what these doctors are doing is trying to
give medicines that might help you. Start with karby. Don't
believe it, don't, but to see if any of the
parkinsonian features help you. Start with the maybe some medicine
at not to stop the sundowning or the confusion that
occurs in the nighttime hours, but the you know, every
physician takes a hypocritical and that hypocritical is to do
(28:27):
no harm. And so the doctors have a responsibility to
do no harm to the patient, to do no harm.
And the President of the United States has also an
oath to be honest with the country, as you know,
to do no harm, and in his position as well.
So it's really up to the physicians to honor that
(28:47):
oath of to do no harm. And certainly letting patients
do a job that they cannot fully function in is
doing harm.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
What do you think last question for you, and thank
you for the time here. What do you think doctor
Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife would be seeing behind the
scenes compared to what we see in public. In other words,
I'm sure when you talk to a lot of your patients,
one of the people that's bringing them in kids, you know, wives, husbands,
(29:21):
whoever it might be because of what they see that
others might not see, and initially they may not want
to believe it. They might not want to believe that
their life partner is having these sort of challenges. From
a psychological perspective, what do you think she's going through?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
What do you think she's seeing?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Because we're only seeing Joe Biden, the President of the
United States for five percent of the day at most,
what do you think she's seeing behind the scenes?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Right? And there's a reason why you're seeing only at
five percent of the day, right, because it can cognitively
only be there five for some of the day. You know,
it is really tough on caregivers and family members. The
diagnost we've died. Dementia in particular is difficult because of
the fluctuation of the cognitive status and the swings that
you'd see. But more importantly, you know, if you could really,
(30:10):
if I could talk to him, it would be interesting
to hear if he'd have any that Most of the
patients do have some visual hallucinations. For instance, they might
see some animals or people that aren't there, and typically
they don't even bother the patient. They'll admit that they
see them, but they're not truly hallucinations that are bothersome
to the patient. But he might so he might be taught,
(30:31):
you know, being able to talk. He certainly wouldn't tell
us that, but that would be one of the things.
Sundowning at night. The confusion at night is a big
problem with patients with any type of dementia. Remember that
any any type of dementia would have sun downing. That's
what it's called. And then there's certainly some executive function problems,
(30:53):
some kind of a disinhibition where they do things or
safe things that they might not we might not want
them to say. Book might be what they're saying at home.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Doc, really appreciate the expertise telling us about what the
possibilities are here. And thank you so much for calling in.
And we may have to have you back, so please
keep your pager. Wait do you guys still have but
you don't have pagers anymore?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Here, okay, thanks Doc, thank you, thanks for being with us. So, yeah, Clay,
remember that when doctors were doctors, obulers had pages and
that was pretty much it for a while.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
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Speaker 3 (33:41):
Appreciate the doc who just swung by to break down
as she sees it neurologists. Long time seventeen year practicing
doctor with what she sees, and that squares with much
of what many are saying, including the New York Times itself,
which quoted many different doctors as diagnosing Biden with a
(34:02):
variety of different issues. Hers l Ewy Lewis body disease
is what she would say is the most likely of
the issues that Joe Biden might have out there. Buck,
I think the biggest takeaway here as we come down
this week is I mentioned this, how many other stories
(34:25):
are out there that the New York Times or the
Washington Post or Politico or axios are going to deploy
because the Biden team is letting it be known we
ain't going anywhere, And so how do you dislodge them
from this position? What is the story that would do it?
That's really the question for this week, I think, more
(34:46):
so than anything else, I think you would have to
have somebody who and look this. It would be criminal
to do this.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I'm obviously not advocating it, but if somebody got access
to Biden's personal medical files and it came out that
he had been done diagnosed with Louis body for example,
which our doctor that we just had on who's excellent,
was talking about us, she thinks the most likely scenario here.
I think that would be too much, but meaning too
(35:14):
much for the Biden team to be able to hold
it off. Clay, I think that they're doug I think
they're absolutely dug in. I think that this is their
election twenty twenty four Alamo, and they're going to fight
it out till the very end, and that's their approach.
I do not see this changing. So and even the
inducements the more I thought about it, what can you
(35:37):
induce Biden with that he thinks is better than what
he could get if he were to become president again?
You know what I mean? That's the challenge you have.
I don't think there's any threats you can make against
Biden that will work, because remember, this is a guy
who has got to be thinking he doesn't have that
much time left anyway, so why not go out on
his own terms? And I mentioned this, people have started
(35:58):
to talk about Clay about how Biden's Biden regrets very
much not running in twenty sixteen, and listen to people
around him who said, don't run, don't run, and he's
never making that mistake again. This is the this is
the scuttle butt on the Internet right now. Think about
Kamala Harris, which we don't talk about that much. If
(36:19):
the DEI higher is on a basically.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Her political career could end because the old white guy
will not actually step down and her career is over potential.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
The Democrat Party is looking at a DEI hire and
a dementia patient and saying we want the dementia people.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
That's where we are go back
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