July 8, 2024 • 60 mins
Supporting the team, not the candidate. Alex Berenson's truth bomb piece. This is not a coincidence. A neurologist weighs in on Biden.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
As of today, as of right now, Biden has decided
to go all in on I'm not going anywhere, doesn't
care what big names want him out, doesn't care about
the reporting. Oh, the big donors, and I've thought that's
all along. Yeah, the big donors can squawk and get
upset about whatever. Are they going to start writing checks
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or Republicans are they going to allow Donald Trump to win?
I mean, if you're a Democrat billionaire, you're probably a
little disconnected from reality and likely to be somewhat emotionally
unstable because.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Donald Trump is threatening our democracy.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So I think that you're going to end up writing
a check to Biden no matter what. That's my and
I think that's what Biden's calculation is on all of this.
To be clear, now, there is another situation here, and
I'm not exactly sure how this one's going to go. Well,
no one's sure how it's gonna go quite yet. I
don't think Biden's sure how it's going to go. And
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it is not just he's too old, he's got cognition issues,
but if it comes out that he is in the
grip of a degenerative brain disease, age related. Degenitive brain
brain disease, right, usually age related, I think they are,
but this is something that's coming up more and more.
(01:20):
I want to note that Alex Berenson is going to
be with us at the top of the next hour,
and he's and this is from White House logs, from
official White House logs. This is not some conspiracy theory.
He's going to present to you evidence that in his
mind shows Joe Biden actually has a true degenerative brain issue.
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I'll let him tell you specifically what that is, but
you'll definitely want to stay around with Remember Alex was
the guy who when everyone thought, even a lot of conservatives,
the vaccines are amazing, They're going to save us all
from COVID. They're going to work, he was like, actually,
they don't work at least not in terms of transmissions
and very little in terms of anything else.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So we're going to listen to him on this one.
That'll be coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
But there was one moment on the Morning Joe interview
when everybody was kind of looking at each other like, hey, yeah,
play a good round of eighteen this weekend. You know,
Morning Joe is a very You get to be part
of this secret club of smug You get to just
sit there and be so smug. That's really the advantage
of Morning Joe watching. So it is kind of fun.
But they asked, or they brought up this thing about
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whether he has been tested for age related illness.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I want you to hear. This was on the phone
call the Morning Joe this morning. This is cut to.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Look I had before. I was feeling so badly before
the debate. When I came back, they tested me before.
I thought maybe I had COVID, maybe there was something wrong,
I had an affection or something. They tested me, they
gave me those tests that was clear. So but look,
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I had a bad night. The fact of the matter is,
look at what I'm doing. I mean, let me put
this way. If there was something that was wrong that night,
it's not like it comes and that's one night and
goes away. That's why I've been out. I've been testing myself,
been testing everywhere I go, going out and making the cave.
The night of that debate, I went out.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I was out of two o'clock in.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The morning that very night, that very night, it drives
me nuts people talking about this play.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
He will always avoid this. He will not do any
outside medical cognition testing. If they I think you'll see
more and more of this, they will fight tooth and
nail to make sure that it doesn't come out, or
that rather that there's no official diagnosis of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's,
Louis Body, Huntington's, any of the diseases of the mind
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of the brain that can affect it, because that I
think that I think would become too hard to hold
back people if they.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Found out right now.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So they they've they've only got to keep this under
wraps for a month, right, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
They've just got to get to the convention. Well.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
And I think they're intentionally probably avoiding a official diagnosis
because we're going to talk with Alex.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
You can't you can't pr a diagnosis of degenerative brain disease.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
But I think the reason they're having all these meetings
with people is they're like, oh, we suspect this might
be what it would be, and then they're going to say, so,
let's pretend that this was the condition. What's the best
way that we could treat it. Let's just you know, like,
let's just hypothesize that we knew someone who is in
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a really important position of power, and really, what should
we be doing? And Buck, this is what really is
going on. I think right now where he is, they
can somewhat hide him on a teleprompter because he is
because he he's done it for fifty years. He's skilled
enough to still be able to look at words directly
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in front of him and respond in a way when
it is all set out for him. Now, sometimes he
reads things that he shouldn't be reading, like when he
said go get him at the end of the at
the end of the speech that stayed in the Union
a couple of years ago. But as soon as they
get him off the teleprompter, that's when he falls apart.
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And so I don't know how they can protect him
from having to react to questions.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Did you watch the Stepanopolis interview on the day? So
I watched that. My kids wanted to watch WWE SmackDown,
So we were flipping back and forth. It was only
twenty two minutes whatever it was. Even there he got
helped by Stepanopolis. A couple of times he couldn't remember
what the polls were, and Stephanopolis.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Kind of gave him the life line there.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I don't know if they show him up on September
tenth at the second debate and trot it out there again.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He can't go off prompter.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
So I suspect what they'll do is they will claim
that he is vigorous, that he is incredibly with it.
They'll tell him do not read anything other than what
is on the prompter, and they will do their best
to try to protect him that way. And if there
is an acknowledgment that his counter coup has worked, what
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you will start to see is what has already begun,
which is even Joe Biden with dementia is better than
Donald Trump. That's going to become the rallying point that
you will see Democrats adopt. Now some of them have
already got their legs cut out, Like I think it's
funny Stephen King and Rob Reiner and some of some
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of these left wingers who have been super active on
social media, and I think, what is it five or
six congress people so far at this point have said
he needs to be replaced.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But that is where we'll play.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
An audio clip for you, and we come back of
our good friend Whoopee Goldberg basically saying that she would
vote for Joe Biden even if he's pooping his pants
all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's where they are, that's what Actually she actually said
that this and we're being it's not hyperbole. Yeah, yeah,
that's a bidenism right there. It's not hyperbole, it's not
a joke.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's actually real.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Uh no, I I but that's to me, the only
there there's induced Biden to drop out, and they're somehow
he's forced into a corner or it comes out officially
that he has a degenerative degenerative brain disease because he's old,
he's lost a step, he's foggy. People can tell themselves
that's fine. He has a medically diagnosed condition. That means
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that his brain is only going to get worse, and
you cannot rely on his judgment and cognition right now.
Then I think the voices can be loud enough that
he realizes it's not going to happen, so that to
is the only other risk factor that he runs right now.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Remember too, this is not going away. We made the
Federman and analogy. You don't suddenly reverse age. He's not
gonna Benjamin button things and start doing cartwheels and backflips soon.
I do think, though, that Democrats are a little bit
whistling past the proverbial graveyard, maybe even the actual graveyard.
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In this context. He's going to screw up in a
big way multiple times between now and November. He may
fall coming down Air Force one.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
St I was gonna say, he said clear that the
screw up bar is Ei. There's so much.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Room now for I mean, what could be worse than
the debate in terms of any of this. He would
have to have something. He falls down, he's gonna say
he tripped. I mean, well, but.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
It all just circles back to the debate. The debate
was such a disaster that you can't take it away
from people's minds.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And that's why I think it interesting. I think people
will forget.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think you got to I think you got to
turn up the cynicism, my man.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I media, you're gonna have give it a month. Rob
Rygers is gonna be like Joe Biden is defending our democracy.
You know it's they're gonna say it.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
But and there's forty five percent of people out there
that are gonna line up and put a vote in
for the Democrat team no matter what status Biden is in,
because they are voting for the team, not the candidate.
The problem is, I don't think this is a savable candidacy.
And look, there are things we haven't even hardly been
giving advice to the Trump team. They've done a good
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job staying out of the line of fire. I do
think that Trump is in a unique position where he
has house money the likes of which he's never had
before in the history of his candidacy. He's a great
insurgent candidate. Can Trump run a campaign where he's got
the ball and he's got the lead and he just
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needs to avoid creating a big stir. I don't know
that he can. I think that's one thing to keep
in mind. Can we have a completely disciplined Republican national Convention.
Can Republicans get out of the way and not like
themselves on fire for the next four months to help Biden?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm not sure that I think they can.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
You know, what is Bill Belichick's number one advice, buck
when it comes to winning games, do your job. Can
Republicans just do their job? Or are they going to
fumble the ball. Are they gonna throw the interception? Are
they going to trip all over themselves and bring Biden
back in the game, not by any virtue of his
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incredible play, but just by Republican incompetence.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I just I want you all to remember that I
said this on July eighth. Okay, because I understand right
now there's a lot of stuff going on out there,
a lot of tripping from people in the interwebs. I
still believe that the most dangerous candidate that Joe of
that Donald Trump faces is Joe Biden. That doesn't mean
I don't think Trump can win. I think Trump is
winning right now. But I think that when we get
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into the fall, this is going to feel like we
were living in a parallel universe when everybody realized Biden
was so far behind and he's so weak and everything else,
and this is just where it Clay. I think the
COVID experience factors into the way that I view politics
in the world so much. They'll just all lie, and
they will just all go along with it. They will
(11:20):
go along like Lemmings, except the whole Lemmings thing is
a lie to by the way, it was a faked
documentary made by Disney at the time. They don't all
kill themselves. That's all a total falsehood. Question for you
is we got to break. You asked a good question.
Would you advise Trump to debate in September or would
you tell him you already knocked him out. He doesn't
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deserve another chance to step into the ring, because I
think if Biden stays in, they're going to put a
lot into a redemptive performance. I believe it's on September tenth.
Would you say, if you're Trump's team, We're going to
go do rallies on that day instead, it's more valuable.
We already knocked Joe Biden out. People have seen us
debate enough.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I think it's a really if Biden is the guy,
or if it were Kamala, I think it would be
an interesting decision as well. But do you let the
guy that you already knocked out back in the ring
and give him a chance to throw more punches at you,
or do you think Biden's so mentally shot that you
would actually benefit even more because if he fumbles again,
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then the race is really I just I think.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's a really high risk, high reward analysis.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I have thoughts on that, which is good because we
make a living sharing thoughts. So I do have some
thoughts on this one, which we'll get to here momentarily.
I want to hear from all of you on this
as well. Want to hear how many of you are
looking for plots on Buck Island leaving the big city
of clay Town, big city, A lot of people in
Claytwn moving to Buck Island. On this Biden issue, I'm
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just wondering a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Of people, a lot of people retiring, maybe thinking about
a nice, nice golf front view. I gotta say, Buck
Island price is a property is skyrock.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Price is going up today, but then again tomorrow. All
it takes is like a medical analysis to come out
and that Biden, And then you know, I'm not gonna
lie to you guys. It'll be like fire sale at
Buck Island. So anyway, we'll see. But we'll talk about
that in a second. And I switch gears here for
a moment, because look, it is hard for us in
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Speaker 5 (14:28):
Feels to me like is going to be a daily
roller coaster ride of insanity all the way up to
November fifth, even though we're sitting it just under four
months until the election, which is exactly I believe one
hundred and twenty days from now, we bring in now
our friend Alexbarnson, who has been willing to share unpopular
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truths at times as it pertains to COVID and beyond
and Alex this is actually conversation. They may not have
much to do with COVID at all. Over the last
couple of days, you've had a story up on your
website about a Parkinson's expert who has been visiting the
White House with the physician that is in charge of
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Joe Biden's health. The White House Physician, I believe is
the official title. What can you tell us about this?
How certain of it are you? What do you think
since we have not heard the White House, to my knowledge,
comment on this, what do you think this is telling us?
Kind of lay it out for the audience.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Sure, so, yes, the White has not commented on the ship.
So here's here's how this works. There are visitors laws
that the White House releases with a multi month delay
that show when somebody has made an appointment or you know,
inside the White House for somebody outside to come in.
And you know, I first actually became aware of these
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when I discovered that I that I could use them
to find out that Albert Borla, the CEO Pfizer and
chairman Offiser, had visited the White House on very short
notice in the summer of twenty twenty one, which was
of course of interest to me, you know, in my
reporting at the COVID vaccines and you know, and issues
around COVID. Okay, so so so on Saturday morning, the
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Why The New York Post reported that a doctor, a
neurologist who specializes in Parkinson's research, had visited the president's
first personal physician in January of twenty twenty four. Okay,
that this man had made one visit to the White House.
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And I thought, you know, it is a pretty interesting story.
I'm gonna I'm gonna look at the logs and see,
you know, confirmed this. Because it's public, anyone can look
and see if it's true. And so I put his
name in Kevin Cannard is his name into the logs.
And it didn't pop up one time. It popped up
ten times, including nine times since last July, since July
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twenty twenty three. And you have to understand, this only
goes through March twenty twenty four, so actually he may
have visited even more recently than March. We just don't know.
And the other eight visits since last July were all
made not for him by the president's personal physician, but
by a Navy nurse who actually you can find her online,
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and her job is essentially to supervise the president's medical care,
also the vice president, and you know a handful of
there of family members and senior cabine officials, but really
it's for him, and she actually predates him. You can
you can find her on the podium when when Donald
Trump was hospitalized for covid'. She's essentially a civil servant
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and she's a nurse, and she's a and her title
is commander. She's actually you know, she's in the navy.
So to me, this made this, this turned this from
an interesting story into a fascinating story, because what is
this doctor doing coming to the White House, the White
House Residence clinic over and over and over again. And
and in fact, if you look at this, uh, this nurse,
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and you see who else she's made appointments for, which
is the story I'm working at right now, you can
see she's made appointments for an audiologist, She's made appointments
for a pediatrist, like almost all the things actually that
you know that we know that Joe Biden has had
problems with a h A dermatologist has been to visit,
and you know, you know, and I know doctors don't
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make house calls anymore, and these are you know, and
this this guy is a very you know, he's a
very good neurologist. He's not just either helicoptering or driving
over to the White House, you know, to because somebody
has a headache. There's a reason he's been there over
and over and over again. And so far they've refused
to tell us. Now do I know what this means?
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I do not yet. That's that's the reporting process. But
I know that it's very unusual that his visits only
began last July, essentially one previous one in twenty twenty two,
and that there doesn't seem to be a good explanation
for this. Now as we know, the White House put
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out a report, or the President's medical Report, in February
twenty twenty four, and it's sort of carefully written and
it says there are no symptoms of Parkinson's. But the
other thing that I have heard, and that you may
have also heard from multiple doctors, not one doctor, multiple doctors,
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including some who specialize in neurology, is that if you
just look at the president and the way he walks,
and you know his speech problems, and you know his
apparent cognitive decline in the last few months, to these doctors,
this screams that the symptoms are Parkinsonian. Whether or not
you diagnose him with Parkinson's, that is what it looks
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like to them. So I think that's where we are
right now, and I do think the White House is gonna,
you know, they're going to try to brazen this out.
Whether or not they're able to, we will find out.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
We're speaking to alex parents and unreported truths on substack
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highly recommend to.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All of you, Alex.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
The as far as I can tell, as far as
I think anyone can tell right now, the plan for
Biden is to at least get to the convention and
you know, be the nominee. He certainly still is acting
like he thinks that's what's happening as of today, and
one of the only things that could completely derail that
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would be a clear and official diagnosis of something like
whether it Parkinson's Louis body.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
We've talked about a few different possibilities here.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Not saying that any of them are the diagnoses, because
we can't tell, but those are the things that would
possibly lead to these kinds of symptoms. What I want
to know is, how is it that they're just going
to avoid that avoid people recognizing that Biden just fuses, right,
I mean under normal circumstances, like if we're being told, oh,
the candidate has a terrible heart problem and it's just
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a matter of time, and you know, I think it'd
be very hard from to say, well, I'm not going
to have a cardiologist sign off on it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The Biden campaign is straight up saying but well, they're
really ignoring it, but they're refusing to do an outside
test of whether his brain's still worse.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, yes, that's absolutely true. And and and this is enough.
Well look here's what we know. We know that last month,
basically before the debate, before this really exploded, they just said, hey,
this is the right wing. Yes he's old. But anybody
who points to these videos, especially you know, to me,
the most telling video of all is not the videos
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from Europe. It's the Juneteenth celebration video where he is
completely rigid for you know, for a minute or so
as people all around him are dissy. He's not dancing dead.
Let's be clear that he's not moving and he and
wherever he is, you know, cognitively or consciously in that moment,
he does not appear to be with everyone else and
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so and so. But even after that video came out,
you know, the press essentially refused to report this. Now,
even with my article which again the New York Posts
you know, had the initial story. So the Post is
obviously considered a conservative news organization and and was suppressed
when it reported Hunter Biden four years ago on the laptop,
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which we all now know is true. Uh, you know,
the press has essentially in the US refused to pick
this up. There's several British newspapers, The Guardian, the Telegraph
have picked it up. And Barry Weiss's organization, the Free Press,
which is quite good, you know, and you would say
independent slash conservative, has picked it up. But so far,
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even though the media is you know, questioning Biden's ability
to speak in campaign, they kind of the word that
will not be used as Parkinson's Alzheimer's. They will not.
They're avoiding any sort of diagnostic terms, and so I
think I guess the White House has just decided that
if they can outlast this for a few more days,
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they'll be able to pin this as a right wing conspiracy.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Again, Okay, so sorry to cut you off, but I
think that's the big question here.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You have this dead to rights.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
That this Parkinson's expert has visited the White House. What
did you say eight or nine times that we know
of running up to March because the dates actually are
the visitor logs run behind. How is this not a
massive story if you are given all of these conversations
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that are going on right now about Joe Biden's mental
and physical health, how would this not be the number
one story which leads to this question? And Buck and
I were talking about it. Is this something that and
I'm asking you to analyze because otherwise that makes sense.
Is this something that the New York Times and the
Washington Post are keeping in their back pocket and they're
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trying to pressure Biden without having to go quote unquote
nuclear directly on his health. What do you attribute the
reticence to actually report this to I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But here again, like you could have said that about
the Hunter button laptop, you know, and that was pre
election in twenty twenty. There was an explicit new media
old media Washington establish a conspiracy to block discussion of that,
and no one disagrees now that it's real. Okay, So
so the same thing like this to me, does not
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indicate in any way that this is not real. It
just indicates that we're not allowed to talk about it yet. Yeah,
and by the way, again, I'm not saying that we
know there Maybe there's another explanation here. They haven't given one.
But given what we've all seen in in our own
eyes in the last couple of months, how can this
You're right, how is this not topic a Alex?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Do you think that if if it came out in
some way, in an official way, that they couldn't ignore,
which I don't even know if that's a possible. You know,
we're getting it's getting very Soviet in in this White
House in a lot of ways, right. They're they're really
telling you that while people are starving, the grain harvest
is fabulous. I mean, it's it's pretty crazy out there.
But if it came out that that Biden has Alzheimer's.
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At that point, is it even irrelevant the schedule everything else,
you know? Does it become common on your mind or
do you think they just try to push through that.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I don't know, I don't know it. Here's what I'm saying, Parkinson's,
These these neurological diagnoses are essentially clinical, meaning that you
go into the doctor, you talk to the doctor, the
doctor observes you, and you and you get a diagnosis. Right.
It's not like, oh, you have heart failure and it's
this level of heart failure based on the blockages in
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your arm which we can scan for. Or you have
cancer and the cancer, you know, has spread to your
lift notes so it's stage three or what you know. However,
they stage a particular cancer. These are clinical diagnoses, so
if you really want to be fine, you can get
you can get essentially the medicines that would be diagnosed
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without the diagnosis. Okay, again, I'm not saying that they're
doing that. I'm just saying that that there are ways
for them to have played this that don't quite rise
to the level I guess of lying or you know,
or or criminality, but that are that are obviously problematic.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
That's the question that we talked about and we need
to have this discussion, is that they're basically treating him
as if he has Parkinson's without getting the official diagnosis,
so they can claim that he hasn't been diagnosed.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Is that true? Like nobody knows, we just know.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I mean, but that's that's to me, what would make
the most sense. I mean, if I told you that
I had had I don't know a uh, a doctor
come to my come to treat me nine times for
uh for a speech speech related issue and uh, and
then I said, you know, but I haven't actually been
diagnosed with any problem, most of you out there would say, well,
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that's that's really kind of dancing around the edges. That
to me seems the most logical. But the number one
thing which you're pointing out is how in the world
is this not covered everywhere?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It's major news given what's going on right now.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, So you know, I'm gonna keep pushing it. I
know there are a handful of other reporters will keep
pushing it. You know, if Elon chooses to retweet one
of us and put it in front of one hundred
million people on x that can help. But yeah, when
the when, the when the major media outlets, you know,
sort of have this conspiracy of silence, it becomes very hard.
And by the way, conspiracy science is exactly right. There
(27:48):
was a piece, a great piece, but you know, a
very very troubling piece that I wrote about last week
on on Reported Truth. A woman named Olivia Newsy and
I'm apologize if I'm mispronouncing her. She's a New York
magazine reporter. She wrote about how, you know, Democratic donors
have been talking about Biden's problems for the last six months,
and then halfway not halfway through, towards the end of
(28:09):
the piece, she read and I saw Biden, who I
had covered basically throughout the twenty twenty campaign, in may
Enterry in April of twenty twenty four, and he did
not recognize me and he appeared not to be there. Okay,
So who's one of that conspiracy of silence? If not
just the donors, it's a media and that's clearly happening
(28:29):
with this.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Also, we've got Alex's substack right now. Oh, sorry to
cut you off, New York Times, New York Times, just
breaking Alex. As we're talking to you Parkinson's expert visited
the White House eight times in eight months. The story
lead story up at New York Times dot com just
(28:50):
up right now, literally as we are discussing with you
why they are not covering.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
It, guys, I gotta go, and I think you know why.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yep, all right, man, I could just be clear. We
Alex broke it, We gave it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We put Alex on the air, and now the entire
country is about to be talking about this. The entire
news cycle is about to be obsessed with this. Uh,
go subscribe. This is why we tell you go subscribe
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just as we're talking to you live he everybody, Wow,
that is quite a thing. All right, Alex, go save
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(29:23):
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Speaker 1 (31:22):
We're talking with Alex Bearnson.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
We scheduled him on Saturday after his report that a
Parkinson's expert had visited the White House that came out
on Saturday morning. We scheduled them for one o'clock. News
from the New York Times breaks while we are talking
to Alex Barns and we may play that clip for
you again. But I just want to share the latest
(31:46):
reporting from the New York Times, which has turned the
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People are trying to get out of the.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
The purchases that they were considering, making this morning headline.
Parkinson's ex expert visited the White House eight times in
eight months.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
And then I've read this article during the during the
break there, but I want to hit you with a
couple of paragraphs. An expert on Parkinson's disease from Walter
Reed National Military Medical Center visited the White House eight
times in eight months from last summer through this spring,
including at least once for a meeting with President Biden's physician,
(32:29):
according to official visitor logs. Okay, now, the White House
has responded to this story. The doctor did not respond
to repeated request for comment, uh from the White House from.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
The New York I mean.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Capt yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got Parkinson. Like okay, he
says nothing White House. I mean like, I mean like
he's under you know, it's oath. He's oath, yes, violated
hippocratic oath to come out and tell everybody, Hey, here's
what I'm treating him with. The White House comment was
as follows. A wide variety of specialists from the Walter
(33:11):
Reed system visit the White House complex to treat the
thousands of military personnel who work on the grounds. That
is the official spokesperson from Andrew Bates' White House spokesman said, Okay,
I want to let you react to that in a
(33:33):
minute here Buck Bates also said President has not had
a neurological test since February. And I want to add
this because it's a little bit of detail on the reporting.
Doctor Cannard's eight most recent visits started on July twenty eighth,
(33:55):
twenty twenty three. He's listed as Alex told us as
me with Megan Nasworthy. She is a White House liaison
to Walter Reed, as Alex just told all of us.
She is someone who has consistently been one of the
medical team for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
The meetings. This is also important.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
The meetings consistently occurred early between seven and nine am
on Fridays, with the exception of the roast recent meeting
on record, which occurred on Thursday, March twenty eighth, the
day before Good Friday. There are no updated notices about
(34:41):
visits for April, May, June or July to the extent
that these medical visits have continued. Okay, your reaction to
that information that is all just coming from the New
York Times first.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Thing is after we were giving what we believe was
credit where it's due for a good turnaround effort. In
terms of the news cycle from the Biden White House,
the letter to Congress was pretty well written and compelling
under the circumstances, you know, making the strong I think
they made the strongest argument for Biden that you could.
(35:16):
And mourning Joe the you know, the smug country club table,
they were all, okay, Joe, you called in, you're sounding good.
I think that they've mishandled this a little bit because
I don't think anyone believes and this is why Clay
laid out that information that this is a coincidence. What
they're going with here, here's what they could say. We
have people checking on Biden.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
He's great.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Of course, of course we've got somebody who has you know,
we want to make sure that Joe Biden is mentally
fit as a fiddle and he's good to go and
no problems here.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Of course a lot of us would say, well that's
a lie, but that's at least defensible to say that
this is a coincidence. And to your point, someone's getting
visits at the White House for dementia.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
This makes us.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Remember, nobody at the White House, in any form of employment,
should be so old that they have to get frequent
visits from a Parkinson's or you know, general motor disorder expert.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Right, you see what I mean?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, No, the White House is working and in their
in their eighties.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I was unfortant.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
This is what we were saying off air when they're saying, hey, this,
there's thousands of people who work in the White House.
You don't get Parkins disease if you're a thirty two
year old Secret Service agent by and large, And if
you did, would the doctor show up eight different times
early in the morning at the White House to conduct
(36:41):
an examination of you?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
By the way, you would you would have to. I
mean to be very sad, but you would have to.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You wouldn't be able to continue in that role, and
you'd have to get a form of disability, and that
that would be the right thing under that circumstance. So, yeah,
who else in the White House is at risk of
Parkinson's right now?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
They shouldn't be in the White House.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
This is we've created this bizarre world. We're the most important,
most powerful job in the entire country is the one
job for which you don't actually need to have a
functioning brain. We've said this a million times. What other
we've talked about Walmart Greeder, you've talked about OutKick, you
talked about what job would Joe Biden get. The job
would be grandpa who is retired and spends time with
(37:24):
his family and feeds ducks. That is the job he
actually should be doing, and that would be fine, by
the way, that would be a beautiful thing. He instead
thinks he should be commander in chief for four more years.
But well, here's what I think is going on. They
realize they're they're running out the clock, meaning that the
whole game here is to get to the election with
(37:45):
Biden as the nominee and then figure out what they
want to do next. And with each passing day that
Biden remains the de facto nominee, it gets harder to
replace him. They aren't trying. And I also believe this.
I think that for Biden and all the people around him,
they recognize. You know, we don't talk about this very much.
(38:05):
No one thinks Joe Biden's gonna be running the country
for four more years, even if he wins. No one
thinks that the whole game here. And this is the
quiet part not being set out loud yet, But the
quiet part is Joe is going to step down and
let Kamala take over in twenty twenty five. Of course,
I mean, of course that is what they're planning to
(38:25):
do here. So in that situation, you can see how
they can begin to twist the arms of people who
say Joe's not up for this. They'll turn around and say,
shut up, He's gonna be okay until the election. He's
our best shot, and then we'll figure the rest out.
And that's where this diagnosis issue and all the rest
of it they're not They couldn't keep this up for
(38:46):
four years? Play can they keep it up for four months?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Maybe? Here's the here's the other part of this buck.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
How much of this is about threatening real consequences? You
and I talked about. Okay, maybe they give him fifty
million dollars and they give him a book deal, and
you mentioned Netflix and documentaries and all those things. I
want to read this additional paragraph to you, and I
want to ask you all this question right now. When
(39:15):
does covering up the president's health become potentially a criminal act?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, what will you have to what's the statute. You
got to tell me what the statute is that you
think it could be violating. Well, it's a it's a
really good question, conspiracy to deprive. No, by the way,
that question, I don't say that. Look what they did
with conspiracy to deprive? Right, let's look at the J
six Uh. I think there is zero doubt. And again,
this specific statute is a good question, and there are
(39:42):
people way smarter than that than me. But when I
think about if you are telling America that someone who
does not have the mental faculty to be president of
the United States based on your knowledge, and again this
is why I I think the protection they have is
they're avoiding saying he's been diagnosed, and they're saying, let's
(40:05):
pretend that we did have a guy who was eighty
one years old and had a high stress job and
he is giving substantial symptoms that he has issues.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
How should we treat him? What would the.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Theoretical example of that be without getting a direct diagnosis.
But here I think this is important inside of the Times,
and why I bring it up an array I'm reading
from the Times, an array of neurologists who have not
personally examined. Biden said they observed symptoms in his public
(40:37):
appearances that were consistent with Parkinson's or a related disease,
such as hyphophonic speech, forward flex posture, a shuffling gait,
masked face, and irregular speech patterns, but they emphasize that
a specific diagnosis could not be given without firsthand examination.
(40:58):
Reason why I ring bring this up butt the twenty
fifth Amendment is there for this, for this exact situation.
But how do you force the implementation of the twenty
fifth Amendment if everybody surrounding the president owes their entire job,
(41:19):
power and status to influencing and implementing the twenty fifth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And I would yes, And I think it even more
problem problematic situation for those for those individuals. If you
invoke the twenty fifth Amendment weeks before the Democrat National Convention,
the convention will be an absolute yes, just melee of crazy.
(41:47):
And I think you guarantee that Donald Trump wins the
presidential election because it will to anyone who's still thinking
about you know who they're going to vote for whatever,
it will show just disarray, dishonesty, and chaos from within
Democrat ranks. Let me also raise this is a question.
(42:07):
I understand the doctor has a hippocratic oath, but uh, oh,
shouldn't shouldn't Congress call him in front of a congressional
testimony and ask him under oath? Given the dangers of
(42:28):
someone not being mentally and physically able to be president,
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I don't think they could force him to testify.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
I think that, But can you imagine the visual of
Biden's doctor sitting in front of the Uh.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
They're gonna say that he that he's on it.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It would be like having Biden's lawyer or something you're
not allowed, or a psychiatrist you're not allowed to force
testimony of that.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Well, but what I think it could lead to is
a demand that there be some form of public test
of his mental factor.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
This is the is what I've said. The test is
a thing they have to avoid. If they avoid the test,
an outside test of Biden's neurological health, Let's just be
honest about it. Exactly what we're talking about here. If
he makes it through the convention, they'll just shout anybody
down and we'll see how the voting goes.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
American safety and security And I understand the precedent that
you're setting, which is sad and dangerous. And by the way,
why we shouldn't have, frankly, eighty two year old who
couldn't fly airplanes, allow eighty one year olds allowed to
be president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
This is my big thing.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
They're forcing out, They're forcing out pilots, who are you know,
twenty year veterans.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Saying I think you have to be six sixty five
are under in order to be That's what I'm saying.
But shouldn't we have a Blue Ribbon panel because the
other thing is, I hate to say it, I don't
trust who's going to give him the test.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I'm telling you, Clay on Biden's neurological health. They're gonna
try to go full Biden laptop. They're just gonna say,
no test, no test, Shut up, there's no test. He's
fine because if they submit the whole the whole thing collapses.
And the worst thing would be for Biden to submit
to a test like that, which by the way, he
(44:16):
will not do. Mark mywork, he will not do it.
But I don't know this. This turns into the whole
thing comes crumbling down. Uh, And so what are they
willing to do to avoid that.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
That's why the question.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
I will play that Alex answer for you again at
some point, but we have calls, by the way from
people to have expertise.
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Want to wait ten Yeah for sure.
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about the Biden health related issue and the woman I'm
about to put on with us doctor in the Nashville area,
family friend, and allow you to give all of your
different sort of biography here from purposes of a doctor
related analysis, but you have been talking with me and
(46:12):
my family for some time about what you see as
a neurologist in terms of Joe Biden's physical and mental health.
Give us your background, if you would, and then kind
of walk through what your diagnosis of Biden would suggest.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Well, Hello, nice to talk to you today. Yeah, I've
been a neurologist for seventeen years. I do general neurology
with some specialization. But you know, it's something Biden is
a little bit difficult when you're not in the room,
but it's but there's some obvious clinical traits that he's
(46:52):
been exhibiting for years. And we're talking since gosh, since
dating back to the debates in twenty twenty. Before that election,
he was having some difficulties as cognition certainly first, and
he certainly is you know, has has memory loss. He
does have a dementia, and everyone has to remember that
(47:13):
the word dementia is more of an umbrella term where
there's lots of different types of dementias, the most common
of course being Alzheimer's disease, but you know that doesn't
necessarily mean that he has that. More typically we see
the you know, the Alzheimer's disease, but we also have
front of temporal dementia, basket of dementia, and Louis Valley dementia.
(47:34):
And what's interesting is that the movement disorder specialist of
Parkinson's disease from Me to the White House is especially
interesting because the front of temple dementia patients do exhibit
up a lot of Parkinsonian features that can be associated
with that diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
How much can be don doc, thanks for being with us.
This has often talked about with with the medicines. For
I know, no one knows what a specific diagnosis is
for Joe Biden right now on this or what whether
he has one or not, and.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
What it would be.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
But in general terms, I mean when it comes to
things like Louis Body, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's things we've discussed here.
Is there a lot that can be done with treatment
these days for someone who's in Biden's position, who's trying
to still function at a particularly high level, or are
the drugs pretty limited in their effect?
Speaker 6 (48:26):
So right, it kind of depends on which diagnosis it
is correct.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
So paces with.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
Parkinson's disease, for instance, and we're telling and I'm talking
about idiopathic Parkinson's disease, primary, not the secondary parkinson ism,
but primary Parkinson's. Do these patients, do you fairly well
and respond well to something called carvedopa? Leave the dopa
because what it is is it's typically a movement disorder
that has a lack of dopamine or a neurotransmenter that
helps us initiate movements. And that's you see with Biden,
(48:54):
with President Biden with his slowness of movement, difficulty initiating movement,
the stooped posture, difficultly with walking gates, masked or expressionless space.
Those are typical things that can be helped, and particularly tremor.
But you don't see a tremor necessarily with President Biden.
(49:15):
But those types of symptoms can be managed quite well
with carbon don't believe a DOPA. Parkinson Ism, on the
other hand, due to a different cognitive problem or a
neurodegenerative problem, are not as well treated with the carbon
don't believe it dopa, and they just try to treat
the symptoms as they come, and it's not really well.
(49:38):
You can't really manage it as well as you'd like.
Particularly Louis body dementia, you see a very rapid decline,
a lot of fluctuation of cognitive status, meaning that one
day Grandpa might look really great, and the next time
you see him, gosh, Grandpa doesn't look very well. The
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swings of commission and mental collapse are very common in
that diagnosis.
Speaker 5 (50:04):
We're talking to a doctor in Nashville, family friend who
has been talking about this for some time.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I want to ask you. You mentioned that you could.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
Go back and look at the twenty twenty debates and
start to see some potential symptoms of an issue. When
we now have a report coming out from the New
York Times which also cites in that article many different
neurologists as saying what you're telling us, that there are
a lot of symptoms.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
He is exhibiting when.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
You hear that they've had eight different visits in basically
the last eight months or so to the White House,
and you see, as all of us do, the different
videos of him seeming to freeze up during the June teenth,
looking filled with lack of comfort in many different ways.
Does this appear to you to be progressing? And if
(50:53):
it is, how fast can progressions like these go? What
would a Joe Biden in your mind in twenty twenty
six or twenty twenty eight look like based on what
you've seen from twenty twenty four to now.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
Well, first of all, I don't really think that the
Parkinson's disease diagnosis is what he has, because what you
saw in the twenty twenty debates in early and the
you know, early two twenty twenties, you know, twenty one,
twenty two, twenty three, you see his memory loss almost
before the movement's got really bad. And that to that,
(51:31):
I mean that the dementia that comes with Parkinson's disease
is usually very late in the disease process. He already
exhibited the memory loss features much earlier a lot, and
it kind of coincided with his movement problem and so
that's why I think it tends to be more of
the neurodegenerative change of gluis by dementia. And now that
(51:52):
being said, now Parkinson's patients can typically works fairly well.
I mean, we had Michael J. Fox, for instance, who
was even on the moon be set, doing fairly well
and trying to work as an actor with the diagnosis
of idiopathic Parkinson's disease, trying to manage maybe overmanaged with
some of his carbidope believe a dopa as he had exhibited,
(52:15):
you know, initiation of movement problems and over stimulating himself
a little bit with the CARBI. Don't believe a dopas
because it makes you feel.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Good, Hey, doctor, problem go ahead, doctor.
Speaker 6 (52:25):
Hensha Is you Yeah. The Louis body dementia, however, will
progress very fairly rapidly. It doesn't, It won't. It won't.
The memory problems especially will you'll progress and certainly by
twenty twenty six. I don't think the few people you'll
see a definite decline.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
General question, doc, And it ties into that for somebody
who has one of these conditions that we're discussing here,
does the stress of I mean, look, it's the stress
of being the president we're talking about. But does staying
in a high stress job, you know, effect the day
to day of the progression of the disease. You know,
(53:07):
it's like if you if you were in a super
high stress role and you were at risk of stroke, Like,
that's not a good idea, right, or maybe heart attack
not a good idea. What about with this, Like does
it make it worse if there's more taxing demands on
your mind?
Speaker 6 (53:22):
Yeah, With any type of dementia, and I'm particularly thinking
that President Biden has the luid paty type, it will
be important to have a routine. You have to be
very careful and getting good sleep, and you can only
function just a few hours out of the day. We
(53:43):
as neurologists will tell patients to kind of use the
best times with mom or dad or Grandpa grandma at
the times when they're really really good, maybe between the
hours of seven am and eleven am, because after that
it's really not help. They can't function well. So it's
really important them to be on a good routine. You know.
(54:03):
At my patients with bad mentioned, we'll take the keys away.
I mean, we don't let them drive a car. You
just can't function at a normal They have to be
watched all the time.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
So let me let me build on that.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Let's say that this, uh, this, these doctors that are
trying to treat Joe Biden. We were talking about on
the air that there's a patient confidentiality aspects of that.
But you just mentioned taking away the keys of the car.
Obviously the president's not driving himself. But what obligations or
responsibilities do you think a doctor treating someone in a
(54:39):
position of this significance might uniquely have as part of
being a doctor that is different than you treating somebody's
grandma or grandpa. Uh, how does that play into the
way that you would respond and be treating someone in
a position like this.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
Yeah, certainly what these doctors are doing is trying to
give of medicines that might help you. Start with Kirby,
don't believe it, don't, but to see if any of
the parkinsonian features help you start with the maybe some
medicine at not to stop the sundowning or the confusion
that occurs in the nighttime hours, but the you know,
every physician takes a hypocritical and that hypocritical is to
(55:18):
do no harm.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
And so.
Speaker 6 (55:22):
The doctors have a responsibility to do no harm to
the patient, do no harm. And the president of the
United States has also an oath to be honest with
the country, as you know, to do no harm and.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
In his position as well.
Speaker 6 (55:35):
So it's really up to the physicians to honor that
oath of to do no harm. And certainly letting patients
do a job that they cannot fully function in is
doing harm.
Speaker 5 (55:50):
What do you think last question for you, and thank
you for the time here. What do you think doctor
Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife would be seeing bah behind
the scenes compared to what we see in public. In
other words, I'm sure when you talk to a lot
of your patients, one of the people that's bringing them
in kids, you know, wives, husbands, whoever, it might be
(56:13):
because of what they see that others might not see.
And initially they may not want to believe it. They
might not want to believe that their life partner is
having these sort of challenges. From a psychological perspective, what
do you think she's going through?
Speaker 1 (56:29):
What do you think she's seeing?
Speaker 5 (56:30):
Because we're only seeing Joe Biden, the President of the
United States, for five percent of the day at most,
what do you think she seeing behind the scenes?
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Right?
Speaker 6 (56:38):
And there's a reason why you're seeing only at five
percent of the day, right, because it can cognitively only
be there five percent of the day. You know, it
is really tough on caregivers and family members. The diagnosts
believe the demssia in particular is difficult because of the
fluctuation of the cognitive status and the swings that you'd see.
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But more important, you know, if you could really if
I could talk to him, it would be interesting to
hear if he'd have any that. Most of the patients
do have some visual hallucinations. For instance, they might see
some animals or people that aren't there, and typically they
don't even bother the patient. They'll admit that they see them,
but they're not truly hallucinations that are bothersome to the patient.
(57:20):
But he might so he might be taught, you know,
being able to talk. He certainly wouldn't tell us that,
but but that would be one of the things. Sundowning
at night, the confusion at night is a big problem
with patients with any type of dementia. Remember that any
any type of dementia would have sun downing that's what
it's called. And then there's certainly some executive function problems,
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some kind of a disinhibition where they do things or
say things that they might not we might not want
them to say in book, might be what they're saying
at home.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
Doc, really appreciate the expertise telling us about what the
possibilities are here, and thank you so much for.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
Calling in, and we may have to have you back,
so please keep your pager.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
Wait do you guys still have but you don't have
pagers anymore? Yeah, okay, thanks Doc, thank.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
You, thanks for being with us.
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So, yeah, Clay, remember that when doctors, doctors abulers had
pagers and that was pretty much it for a while.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
As of today, as of right now, Biden has decided
to go all in on I'm not going anywhere, doesn't
care what big names want him out, doesn't care about
the reporting. Oh, the big donors, and I've thought that's
all along. Yeah, the big donors can squawk and get
upset about whatever. Are they going to start writing checks
(00:25):
or Republicans are they going to allow Donald Trump to win?
I mean, if you're a Democrat billionaire, you're probably a
little disconnected from reality and likely to be somewhat emotionally
unstable because.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Donald Trump is threatening our democracy.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So I think that you're going to end up writing
a check to Biden no matter what. That's my and
I think that's what Biden's calculation is on all of this.
To be clear, now, there is another situation here, and
I'm not exactly sure how this one's going to go. Well,
no one's sure how it's gonna go quite yet. I
don't think Biden's sure how it's going to go. And
(01:00):
it is not just he's too old, he's got cognition issues,
but if it comes out that he is in the
grip of a degenerative brain disease, age related. Degenitive brain
brain disease, right, usually age related, I think they are,
but this is something that's coming up more and more.
(01:20):
I want to note that Alex Berenson is going to
be with us at the top of the next hour,
and he's and this is from White House logs, from
official White House logs. This is not some conspiracy theory.
He's going to present to you evidence that in his
mind shows Joe Biden actually has a true degenerative brain issue.
(01:44):
I'll let him tell you specifically what that is, but
you'll definitely want to stay around with Remember Alex was
the guy who when everyone thought, even a lot of conservatives,
the vaccines are amazing, They're going to save us all
from COVID. They're going to work, he was like, actually,
they don't work at least not in terms of transmissions
and very little in terms of anything else.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So we're going to listen to him on this one.
That'll be coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
But there was one moment on the Morning Joe interview
when everybody was kind of looking at each other like, hey, yeah,
play a good round of eighteen this weekend. You know,
Morning Joe is a very You get to be part
of this secret club of smug You get to just
sit there and be so smug. That's really the advantage
of Morning Joe watching. So it is kind of fun.
But they asked, or they brought up this thing about
(02:28):
whether he has been tested for age related illness.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I want you to hear. This was on the phone
call the Morning Joe this morning. This is cut to.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Look I had before. I was feeling so badly before
the debate. When I came back, they tested me before.
I thought maybe I had COVID, maybe there was something wrong,
I had an affection or something. They tested me, they
gave me those tests that was clear. So but look,
(02:58):
I had a bad night. The fact of the matter is,
look at what I'm doing. I mean, let me put
this way. If there was something that was wrong that night,
it's not like it comes and that's one night and
goes away. That's why I've been out. I've been testing myself,
been testing everywhere I go, going out and making the cave.
The night of that debate, I went out.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I was out of two o'clock in.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The morning that very night, that very night, it drives
me nuts people talking about this play.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
He will always avoid this. He will not do any
outside medical cognition testing. If they I think you'll see
more and more of this, they will fight tooth and
nail to make sure that it doesn't come out, or
that rather that there's no official diagnosis of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's,
Louis Body, Huntington's, any of the diseases of the mind
(03:53):
of the brain that can affect it, because that I
think that I think would become too hard to hold
back people if they.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Found out right now.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So they they've they've only got to keep this under
wraps for a month, right, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
They've just got to get to the convention. Well.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
And I think they're intentionally probably avoiding a official diagnosis
because we're going to talk with Alex.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
You can't you can't pr a diagnosis of degenerative brain disease.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
But I think the reason they're having all these meetings
with people is they're like, oh, we suspect this might
be what it would be, and then they're going to say, so,
let's pretend that this was the condition. What's the best
way that we could treat it. Let's just you know, like,
let's just hypothesize that we knew someone who is in
(04:43):
a really important position of power, and really, what should
we be doing? And Buck, this is what really is
going on. I think right now where he is, they
can somewhat hide him on a teleprompter because he is
because he he's done it for fifty years. He's skilled
enough to still be able to look at words directly
(05:06):
in front of him and respond in a way when
it is all set out for him. Now, sometimes he
reads things that he shouldn't be reading, like when he
said go get him at the end of the at
the end of the speech that stayed in the Union
a couple of years ago. But as soon as they
get him off the teleprompter, that's when he falls apart.
(05:30):
And so I don't know how they can protect him
from having to react to questions.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Did you watch the Stepanopolis interview on the day? So
I watched that. My kids wanted to watch WWE SmackDown,
So we were flipping back and forth. It was only
twenty two minutes whatever it was. Even there he got
helped by Stepanopolis. A couple of times he couldn't remember
what the polls were, and Stephanopolis.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Kind of gave him the life line there.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I don't know if they show him up on September
tenth at the second debate and trot it out there again.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He can't go off prompter.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
So I suspect what they'll do is they will claim
that he is vigorous, that he is incredibly with it.
They'll tell him do not read anything other than what
is on the prompter, and they will do their best
to try to protect him that way. And if there
is an acknowledgment that his counter coup has worked, what
(06:30):
you will start to see is what has already begun,
which is even Joe Biden with dementia is better than
Donald Trump. That's going to become the rallying point that
you will see Democrats adopt. Now some of them have
already got their legs cut out, Like I think it's
funny Stephen King and Rob Reiner and some of some
(06:52):
of these left wingers who have been super active on
social media, and I think, what is it five or
six congress people so far at this point have said
he needs to be replaced.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But that is where we'll play.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
An audio clip for you, and we come back of
our good friend Whoopee Goldberg basically saying that she would
vote for Joe Biden even if he's pooping his pants
all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's where they are, that's what Actually she actually said
that this and we're being it's not hyperbole. Yeah, yeah,
that's a bidenism right there. It's not hyperbole, it's not
a joke.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's actually real.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Uh no, I I but that's to me, the only
there there's induced Biden to drop out, and they're somehow
he's forced into a corner or it comes out officially
that he has a degenerative degenerative brain disease because he's old,
he's lost a step, he's foggy. People can tell themselves
that's fine. He has a medically diagnosed condition. That means
(07:48):
that his brain is only going to get worse, and
you cannot rely on his judgment and cognition right now.
Then I think the voices can be loud enough that
he realizes it's not going to happen, so that to
is the only other risk factor that he runs right now.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Remember too, this is not going away. We made the
Federman and analogy. You don't suddenly reverse age. He's not
gonna Benjamin button things and start doing cartwheels and backflips soon.
I do think, though, that Democrats are a little bit
whistling past the proverbial graveyard, maybe even the actual graveyard.
(08:22):
In this context. He's going to screw up in a
big way multiple times between now and November. He may
fall coming down Air Force one.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
St I was gonna say, he said clear that the
screw up bar is Ei. There's so much.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Room now for I mean, what could be worse than
the debate in terms of any of this. He would
have to have something. He falls down, he's gonna say
he tripped. I mean, well, but.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
It all just circles back to the debate. The debate
was such a disaster that you can't take it away
from people's minds.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And that's why I think it interesting. I think people
will forget.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think you got to I think you got to
turn up the cynicism, my man.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I media, you're gonna have give it a month. Rob
Rygers is gonna be like Joe Biden is defending our democracy.
You know it's they're gonna say it.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
But and there's forty five percent of people out there
that are gonna line up and put a vote in
for the Democrat team no matter what status Biden is in,
because they are voting for the team, not the candidate.
The problem is, I don't think this is a savable candidacy.
And look, there are things we haven't even hardly been
giving advice to the Trump team. They've done a good
(09:33):
job staying out of the line of fire. I do
think that Trump is in a unique position where he
has house money the likes of which he's never had
before in the history of his candidacy. He's a great
insurgent candidate. Can Trump run a campaign where he's got
the ball and he's got the lead and he just
(09:55):
needs to avoid creating a big stir. I don't know
that he can. I think that's one thing to keep
in mind. Can we have a completely disciplined Republican national Convention.
Can Republicans get out of the way and not like
themselves on fire for the next four months to help Biden?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm not sure that I think they can.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
You know, what is Bill Belichick's number one advice, buck
when it comes to winning games, do your job. Can
Republicans just do their job? Or are they going to
fumble the ball. Are they gonna throw the interception? Are
they going to trip all over themselves and bring Biden
back in the game, not by any virtue of his
(10:36):
incredible play, but just by Republican incompetence.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I just I want you all to remember that I
said this on July eighth. Okay, because I understand right
now there's a lot of stuff going on out there,
a lot of tripping from people in the interwebs. I
still believe that the most dangerous candidate that Joe of
that Donald Trump faces is Joe Biden. That doesn't mean
I don't think Trump can win. I think Trump is
winning right now. But I think that when we get
(11:00):
into the fall, this is going to feel like we
were living in a parallel universe when everybody realized Biden
was so far behind and he's so weak and everything else,
and this is just where it Clay. I think the
COVID experience factors into the way that I view politics
in the world so much. They'll just all lie, and
they will just all go along with it. They will
(11:20):
go along like Lemmings, except the whole Lemmings thing is
a lie to by the way, it was a faked
documentary made by Disney at the time. They don't all
kill themselves. That's all a total falsehood. Question for you
is we got to break. You asked a good question.
Would you advise Trump to debate in September or would
you tell him you already knocked him out. He doesn't
(11:40):
deserve another chance to step into the ring, because I
think if Biden stays in, they're going to put a
lot into a redemptive performance. I believe it's on September tenth.
Would you say, if you're Trump's team, We're going to
go do rallies on that day instead, it's more valuable.
We already knocked Joe Biden out. People have seen us
debate enough.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I think it's a really if Biden is the guy,
or if it were Kamala, I think it would be
an interesting decision as well. But do you let the
guy that you already knocked out back in the ring
and give him a chance to throw more punches at you,
or do you think Biden's so mentally shot that you
would actually benefit even more because if he fumbles again,
(12:21):
then the race is really I just I think.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's a really high risk, high reward analysis.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I have thoughts on that, which is good because we
make a living sharing thoughts. So I do have some
thoughts on this one, which we'll get to here momentarily.
I want to hear from all of you on this
as well. Want to hear how many of you are
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(12:48):
just wondering a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Of people, a lot of people retiring, maybe thinking about
a nice, nice golf front view. I gotta say, Buck
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Speaker 2 (13:00):
Price is going up today, but then again tomorrow. All
it takes is like a medical analysis to come out
and that Biden, And then you know, I'm not gonna
lie to you guys. It'll be like fire sale at
Buck Island. So anyway, we'll see. But we'll talk about
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Speaker 5 (14:28):
Feels to me like is going to be a daily
roller coaster ride of insanity all the way up to
November fifth, even though we're sitting it just under four
months until the election, which is exactly I believe one
hundred and twenty days from now, we bring in now
our friend Alexbarnson, who has been willing to share unpopular
(14:54):
truths at times as it pertains to COVID and beyond
and Alex this is actually conversation. They may not have
much to do with COVID at all. Over the last
couple of days, you've had a story up on your
website about a Parkinson's expert who has been visiting the
White House with the physician that is in charge of
(15:15):
Joe Biden's health. The White House Physician, I believe is
the official title. What can you tell us about this?
How certain of it are you? What do you think
since we have not heard the White House, to my knowledge,
comment on this, what do you think this is telling us?
Kind of lay it out for the audience.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Sure, so, yes, the White has not commented on the ship.
So here's here's how this works. There are visitors laws
that the White House releases with a multi month delay
that show when somebody has made an appointment or you know,
inside the White House for somebody outside to come in.
And you know, I first actually became aware of these
(15:54):
when I discovered that I that I could use them
to find out that Albert Borla, the CEO Pfizer and
chairman Offiser, had visited the White House on very short
notice in the summer of twenty twenty one, which was
of course of interest to me, you know, in my
reporting at the COVID vaccines and you know, and issues
around COVID. Okay, so so so on Saturday morning, the
(16:18):
Why The New York Post reported that a doctor, a
neurologist who specializes in Parkinson's research, had visited the president's
first personal physician in January of twenty twenty four. Okay,
that this man had made one visit to the White House.
(16:38):
And I thought, you know, it is a pretty interesting story.
I'm gonna I'm gonna look at the logs and see,
you know, confirmed this. Because it's public, anyone can look
and see if it's true. And so I put his
name in Kevin Cannard is his name into the logs.
And it didn't pop up one time. It popped up
ten times, including nine times since last July, since July
(17:03):
twenty twenty three. And you have to understand, this only
goes through March twenty twenty four, so actually he may
have visited even more recently than March. We just don't know.
And the other eight visits since last July were all
made not for him by the president's personal physician, but
by a Navy nurse who actually you can find her online,
(17:25):
and her job is essentially to supervise the president's medical care,
also the vice president, and you know a handful of
there of family members and senior cabine officials, but really
it's for him, and she actually predates him. You can
you can find her on the podium when when Donald
Trump was hospitalized for covid'. She's essentially a civil servant
(17:49):
and she's a nurse, and she's a and her title
is commander. She's actually you know, she's in the navy.
So to me, this made this, this turned this from
an interesting story into a fascinating story, because what is
this doctor doing coming to the White House, the White
House Residence clinic over and over and over again. And
and in fact, if you look at this, uh, this nurse,
(18:11):
and you see who else she's made appointments for, which
is the story I'm working at right now, you can
see she's made appointments for an audiologist, She's made appointments
for a pediatrist, like almost all the things actually that
you know that we know that Joe Biden has had
problems with a h A dermatologist has been to visit,
and you know, you know, and I know doctors don't
(18:32):
make house calls anymore, and these are you know, and
this this guy is a very you know, he's a
very good neurologist. He's not just either helicoptering or driving
over to the White House, you know, to because somebody
has a headache. There's a reason he's been there over
and over and over again. And so far they've refused
to tell us. Now do I know what this means?
(18:53):
I do not yet. That's that's the reporting process. But
I know that it's very unusual that his visits only
began last July, essentially one previous one in twenty twenty two,
and that there doesn't seem to be a good explanation
for this. Now as we know, the White House put
(19:13):
out a report, or the President's medical Report, in February
twenty twenty four, and it's sort of carefully written and
it says there are no symptoms of Parkinson's. But the
other thing that I have heard, and that you may
have also heard from multiple doctors, not one doctor, multiple doctors,
(19:35):
including some who specialize in neurology, is that if you
just look at the president and the way he walks,
and you know his speech problems, and you know his
apparent cognitive decline in the last few months, to these doctors,
this screams that the symptoms are Parkinsonian. Whether or not
you diagnose him with Parkinson's, that is what it looks
(19:58):
like to them. So I think that's where we are
right now, and I do think the White House is gonna,
you know, they're going to try to brazen this out.
Whether or not they're able to, we will find out.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
We're speaking to alex parents and unreported truths on substack
for those of you who want to subscribe, which I
highly recommend to.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All of you, Alex.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
The as far as I can tell, as far as
I think anyone can tell right now, the plan for
Biden is to at least get to the convention and
you know, be the nominee. He certainly still is acting
like he thinks that's what's happening as of today, and
one of the only things that could completely derail that
(20:36):
would be a clear and official diagnosis of something like
whether it Parkinson's Louis body.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
We've talked about a few different possibilities here.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Not saying that any of them are the diagnoses, because
we can't tell, but those are the things that would
possibly lead to these kinds of symptoms. What I want
to know is, how is it that they're just going
to avoid that avoid people recognizing that Biden just fuses, right,
I mean under normal circumstances, like if we're being told, oh,
the candidate has a terrible heart problem and it's just
(21:08):
a matter of time, and you know, I think it'd
be very hard from to say, well, I'm not going
to have a cardiologist sign off on it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The Biden campaign is straight up saying but well, they're
really ignoring it, but they're refusing to do an outside
test of whether his brain's still worse.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, yes, that's absolutely true. And and and this is enough.
Well look here's what we know. We know that last month,
basically before the debate, before this really exploded, they just said, hey,
this is the right wing. Yes he's old. But anybody
who points to these videos, especially you know, to me,
the most telling video of all is not the videos
(21:45):
from Europe. It's the Juneteenth celebration video where he is
completely rigid for you know, for a minute or so
as people all around him are dissy. He's not dancing dead.
Let's be clear that he's not moving and he and
wherever he is, you know, cognitively or consciously in that moment,
he does not appear to be with everyone else and
(22:08):
so and so. But even after that video came out,
you know, the press essentially refused to report this. Now,
even with my article which again the New York Posts
you know, had the initial story. So the Post is
obviously considered a conservative news organization and and was suppressed
when it reported Hunter Biden four years ago on the laptop,
(22:28):
which we all now know is true. Uh, you know,
the press has essentially in the US refused to pick
this up. There's several British newspapers, The Guardian, the Telegraph
have picked it up. And Barry Weiss's organization, the Free Press,
which is quite good, you know, and you would say
independent slash conservative, has picked it up. But so far,
(22:51):
even though the media is you know, questioning Biden's ability
to speak in campaign, they kind of the word that
will not be used as Parkinson's Alzheimer's. They will not.
They're avoiding any sort of diagnostic terms, and so I
think I guess the White House has just decided that
if they can outlast this for a few more days,
(23:14):
they'll be able to pin this as a right wing conspiracy.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Again, Okay, so sorry to cut you off, but I
think that's the big question here.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You have this dead to rights.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
That this Parkinson's expert has visited the White House. What
did you say eight or nine times that we know
of running up to March because the dates actually are
the visitor logs run behind. How is this not a
massive story if you are given all of these conversations
(23:48):
that are going on right now about Joe Biden's mental
and physical health, how would this not be the number
one story which leads to this question? And Buck and
I were talking about it. Is this something that and
I'm asking you to analyze because otherwise that makes sense.
Is this something that the New York Times and the
Washington Post are keeping in their back pocket and they're
(24:10):
trying to pressure Biden without having to go quote unquote
nuclear directly on his health. What do you attribute the
reticence to actually report this to I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But here again, like you could have said that about
the Hunter button laptop, you know, and that was pre
election in twenty twenty. There was an explicit new media
old media Washington establish a conspiracy to block discussion of that,
and no one disagrees now that it's real. Okay, So
so the same thing like this to me, does not
(24:43):
indicate in any way that this is not real. It
just indicates that we're not allowed to talk about it yet. Yeah,
and by the way, again, I'm not saying that we
know there Maybe there's another explanation here. They haven't given one.
But given what we've all seen in in our own
eyes in the last couple of months, how can this
You're right, how is this not topic a Alex?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Do you think that if if it came out in
some way, in an official way, that they couldn't ignore,
which I don't even know if that's a possible. You know,
we're getting it's getting very Soviet in in this White
House in a lot of ways, right. They're they're really
telling you that while people are starving, the grain harvest
is fabulous. I mean, it's it's pretty crazy out there.
But if it came out that that Biden has Alzheimer's.
(25:30):
At that point, is it even irrelevant the schedule everything else,
you know? Does it become common on your mind or
do you think they just try to push through that.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I don't know, I don't know it. Here's what I'm saying, Parkinson's,
These these neurological diagnoses are essentially clinical, meaning that you
go into the doctor, you talk to the doctor, the
doctor observes you, and you and you get a diagnosis. Right.
It's not like, oh, you have heart failure and it's
this level of heart failure based on the blockages in
(25:59):
your arm which we can scan for. Or you have
cancer and the cancer, you know, has spread to your
lift notes so it's stage three or what you know. However,
they stage a particular cancer. These are clinical diagnoses, so
if you really want to be fine, you can get
you can get essentially the medicines that would be diagnosed
(26:20):
without the diagnosis. Okay, again, I'm not saying that they're
doing that. I'm just saying that that there are ways
for them to have played this that don't quite rise
to the level I guess of lying or you know,
or or criminality, but that are that are obviously problematic.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
That's the question that we talked about and we need
to have this discussion, is that they're basically treating him
as if he has Parkinson's without getting the official diagnosis,
so they can claim that he hasn't been diagnosed.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Is that true? Like nobody knows, we just know.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I mean, but that's that's to me, what would make
the most sense. I mean, if I told you that
I had had I don't know a uh, a doctor
come to my come to treat me nine times for
uh for a speech speech related issue and uh, and
then I said, you know, but I haven't actually been
diagnosed with any problem, most of you out there would say, well,
(27:13):
that's that's really kind of dancing around the edges. That
to me seems the most logical. But the number one
thing which you're pointing out is how in the world
is this not covered everywhere?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It's major news given what's going on right now.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, So you know, I'm gonna keep pushing it. I
know there are a handful of other reporters will keep
pushing it. You know, if Elon chooses to retweet one
of us and put it in front of one hundred
million people on x that can help. But yeah, when
the when, the when the major media outlets, you know,
sort of have this conspiracy of silence, it becomes very hard.
And by the way, conspiracy science is exactly right. There
(27:48):
was a piece, a great piece, but you know, a
very very troubling piece that I wrote about last week
on on Reported Truth. A woman named Olivia Newsy and
I'm apologize if I'm mispronouncing her. She's a New York
magazine reporter. She wrote about how, you know, Democratic donors
have been talking about Biden's problems for the last six months,
and then halfway not halfway through, towards the end of
(28:09):
the piece, she read and I saw Biden, who I
had covered basically throughout the twenty twenty campaign, in may
Enterry in April of twenty twenty four, and he did
not recognize me and he appeared not to be there. Okay,
So who's one of that conspiracy of silence? If not
just the donors, it's a media and that's clearly happening
(28:29):
with this.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Also, we've got Alex's substack right now. Oh, sorry to
cut you off, New York Times, New York Times, just
breaking Alex. As we're talking to you Parkinson's expert visited
the White House eight times in eight months. The story
lead story up at New York Times dot com just
(28:50):
up right now, literally as we are discussing with you
why they are not covering.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
It, guys, I gotta go, and I think you know why.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yep, all right, man, I could just be clear. We
Alex broke it, We gave it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We put Alex on the air, and now the entire
country is about to be talking about this. The entire
news cycle is about to be obsessed with this. Uh,
go subscribe. This is why we tell you go subscribe
to Alex's subsets. Literally lead story right now, New York Times,
just as we're talking to you live he everybody, Wow,
that is quite a thing. All right, Alex, go save
the Republic. Yeah, guys up at clayanbuck dot com. Just
(29:23):
to make it easy for you, We've got Alex's piece
there and you can also click the link and and
uh and subscribe to his substack. And this is why
we bring him on. This is you know, we look
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Speaker 1 (31:22):
We're talking with Alex Bearnson.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
We scheduled him on Saturday after his report that a
Parkinson's expert had visited the White House that came out
on Saturday morning. We scheduled them for one o'clock. News
from the New York Times breaks while we are talking
to Alex Barns and we may play that clip for
you again. But I just want to share the latest
(31:46):
reporting from the New York Times, which has turned the
real estate on Buck Island quite choppy.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
People are trying to get out of the.
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The purchases that they were considering, making this morning headline.
Parkinson's ex expert visited the White House eight times in
eight months.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
And then I've read this article during the during the
break there, but I want to hit you with a
couple of paragraphs. An expert on Parkinson's disease from Walter
Reed National Military Medical Center visited the White House eight
times in eight months from last summer through this spring,
including at least once for a meeting with President Biden's physician,
(32:29):
according to official visitor logs. Okay, now, the White House
has responded to this story. The doctor did not respond
to repeated request for comment, uh from the White House from.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
The New York I mean.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Capt yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got Parkinson. Like okay, he
says nothing White House. I mean like, I mean like
he's under you know, it's oath. He's oath, yes, violated
hippocratic oath to come out and tell everybody, Hey, here's
what I'm treating him with. The White House comment was
as follows. A wide variety of specialists from the Walter
(33:11):
Reed system visit the White House complex to treat the
thousands of military personnel who work on the grounds. That
is the official spokesperson from Andrew Bates' White House spokesman said, Okay,
I want to let you react to that in a
(33:33):
minute here Buck Bates also said President has not had
a neurological test since February. And I want to add
this because it's a little bit of detail on the reporting.
Doctor Cannard's eight most recent visits started on July twenty eighth,
(33:55):
twenty twenty three. He's listed as Alex told us as
me with Megan Nasworthy. She is a White House liaison
to Walter Reed, as Alex just told all of us.
She is someone who has consistently been one of the
medical team for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
The meetings. This is also important.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
The meetings consistently occurred early between seven and nine am
on Fridays, with the exception of the roast recent meeting
on record, which occurred on Thursday, March twenty eighth, the
day before Good Friday. There are no updated notices about
(34:41):
visits for April, May, June or July to the extent
that these medical visits have continued. Okay, your reaction to
that information that is all just coming from the New
York Times first.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Thing is after we were giving what we believe was
credit where it's due for a good turnaround effort. In
terms of the news cycle from the Biden White House,
the letter to Congress was pretty well written and compelling
under the circumstances, you know, making the strong I think
they made the strongest argument for Biden that you could.
(35:16):
And mourning Joe the you know, the smug country club table,
they were all, okay, Joe, you called in, you're sounding good.
I think that they've mishandled this a little bit because
I don't think anyone believes and this is why Clay
laid out that information that this is a coincidence. What
they're going with here, here's what they could say. We
have people checking on Biden.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
He's great.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Of course, of course we've got somebody who has you know,
we want to make sure that Joe Biden is mentally
fit as a fiddle and he's good to go and
no problems here.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Of course a lot of us would say, well that's
a lie, but that's at least defensible to say that
this is a coincidence. And to your point, someone's getting
visits at the White House for dementia.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
This makes us.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Remember, nobody at the White House, in any form of employment,
should be so old that they have to get frequent
visits from a Parkinson's or you know, general motor disorder expert.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Right, you see what I mean?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, No, the White House is working and in their
in their eighties.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I was unfortant.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
This is what we were saying off air when they're saying, hey, this,
there's thousands of people who work in the White House.
You don't get Parkins disease if you're a thirty two
year old Secret Service agent by and large, And if
you did, would the doctor show up eight different times
early in the morning at the White House to conduct
(36:41):
an examination of you?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
By the way, you would you would have to. I
mean to be very sad, but you would have to.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You wouldn't be able to continue in that role, and
you'd have to get a form of disability, and that
that would be the right thing under that circumstance. So, yeah,
who else in the White House is at risk of
Parkinson's right now?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
They shouldn't be in the White House.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
This is we've created this bizarre world. We're the most important,
most powerful job in the entire country is the one
job for which you don't actually need to have a
functioning brain. We've said this a million times. What other
we've talked about Walmart Greeder, you've talked about OutKick, you
talked about what job would Joe Biden get. The job
would be grandpa who is retired and spends time with
(37:24):
his family and feeds ducks. That is the job he
actually should be doing, and that would be fine, by
the way, that would be a beautiful thing. He instead
thinks he should be commander in chief for four more years.
But well, here's what I think is going on. They
realize they're they're running out the clock, meaning that the
whole game here is to get to the election with
(37:45):
Biden as the nominee and then figure out what they
want to do next. And with each passing day that
Biden remains the de facto nominee, it gets harder to
replace him. They aren't trying. And I also believe this.
I think that for Biden and all the people around him,
they recognize. You know, we don't talk about this very much.
(38:05):
No one thinks Joe Biden's gonna be running the country
for four more years, even if he wins. No one
thinks that the whole game here. And this is the
quiet part not being set out loud yet, But the
quiet part is Joe is going to step down and
let Kamala take over in twenty twenty five. Of course,
I mean, of course that is what they're planning to
(38:25):
do here. So in that situation, you can see how
they can begin to twist the arms of people who
say Joe's not up for this. They'll turn around and say,
shut up, He's gonna be okay until the election. He's
our best shot, and then we'll figure the rest out.
And that's where this diagnosis issue and all the rest
of it they're not They couldn't keep this up for
(38:46):
four years? Play can they keep it up for four months?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Maybe? Here's the here's the other part of this buck.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
How much of this is about threatening real consequences? You
and I talked about. Okay, maybe they give him fifty
million dollars and they give him a book deal, and
you mentioned Netflix and documentaries and all those things. I
want to read this additional paragraph to you, and I
want to ask you all this question right now. When
(39:15):
does covering up the president's health become potentially a criminal act?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, what will you have to what's the statute. You
got to tell me what the statute is that you
think it could be violating. Well, it's a it's a
really good question, conspiracy to deprive. No, by the way,
that question, I don't say that. Look what they did
with conspiracy to deprive? Right, let's look at the J
six Uh. I think there is zero doubt. And again,
this specific statute is a good question, and there are
(39:42):
people way smarter than that than me. But when I
think about if you are telling America that someone who
does not have the mental faculty to be president of
the United States based on your knowledge, and again this
is why I I think the protection they have is
they're avoiding saying he's been diagnosed, and they're saying, let's
(40:05):
pretend that we did have a guy who was eighty
one years old and had a high stress job and
he is giving substantial symptoms that he has issues.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
How should we treat him? What would the.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Theoretical example of that be without getting a direct diagnosis.
But here I think this is important inside of the Times,
and why I bring it up an array I'm reading
from the Times, an array of neurologists who have not
personally examined. Biden said they observed symptoms in his public
(40:37):
appearances that were consistent with Parkinson's or a related disease,
such as hyphophonic speech, forward flex posture, a shuffling gait,
masked face, and irregular speech patterns, but they emphasize that
a specific diagnosis could not be given without firsthand examination.
(40:58):
Reason why I ring bring this up butt the twenty
fifth Amendment is there for this, for this exact situation.
But how do you force the implementation of the twenty
fifth Amendment if everybody surrounding the president owes their entire job,
(41:19):
power and status to influencing and implementing the twenty fifth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And I would yes, And I think it even more
problem problematic situation for those for those individuals. If you
invoke the twenty fifth Amendment weeks before the Democrat National Convention,
the convention will be an absolute yes, just melee of crazy.
(41:47):
And I think you guarantee that Donald Trump wins the
presidential election because it will to anyone who's still thinking
about you know who they're going to vote for whatever,
it will show just disarray, dishonesty, and chaos from within
Democrat ranks. Let me also raise this is a question.
(42:07):
I understand the doctor has a hippocratic oath, but uh, oh,
shouldn't shouldn't Congress call him in front of a congressional
testimony and ask him under oath? Given the dangers of
(42:28):
someone not being mentally and physically able to be president,
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I don't think they could force him to testify.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
I think that, But can you imagine the visual of
Biden's doctor sitting in front of the Uh.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
They're gonna say that he that he's on it.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It would be like having Biden's lawyer or something you're
not allowed, or a psychiatrist you're not allowed to force
testimony of that.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Well, but what I think it could lead to is
a demand that there be some form of public test
of his mental factor.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
This is the is what I've said. The test is
a thing they have to avoid. If they avoid the test,
an outside test of Biden's neurological health, Let's just be
honest about it. Exactly what we're talking about here. If
he makes it through the convention, they'll just shout anybody
down and we'll see how the voting goes.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
American safety and security And I understand the precedent that
you're setting, which is sad and dangerous. And by the way,
why we shouldn't have, frankly, eighty two year old who
couldn't fly airplanes, allow eighty one year olds allowed to
be president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
This is my big thing.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
They're forcing out, They're forcing out pilots, who are you know,
twenty year veterans.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Saying I think you have to be six sixty five
are under in order to be That's what I'm saying.
But shouldn't we have a Blue Ribbon panel because the
other thing is, I hate to say it, I don't
trust who's going to give him the test.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I'm telling you, Clay on Biden's neurological health. They're gonna
try to go full Biden laptop. They're just gonna say,
no test, no test, Shut up, there's no test. He's
fine because if they submit the whole the whole thing collapses.
And the worst thing would be for Biden to submit
to a test like that, which by the way, he
(44:16):
will not do. Mark mywork, he will not do it.
But I don't know this. This turns into the whole
thing comes crumbling down. Uh, And so what are they
willing to do to avoid that.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
That's why the question.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
I will play that Alex answer for you again at
some point, but we have calls, by the way from
people to have expertise.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Want to wait ten Yeah for sure.
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about the Biden health related issue and the woman I'm
about to put on with us doctor in the Nashville area,
family friend, and allow you to give all of your
different sort of biography here from purposes of a doctor
related analysis, but you have been talking with me and
(46:12):
my family for some time about what you see as
a neurologist in terms of Joe Biden's physical and mental health.
Give us your background, if you would, and then kind
of walk through what your diagnosis of Biden would suggest.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Well, Hello, nice to talk to you today. Yeah, I've
been a neurologist for seventeen years. I do general neurology
with some specialization. But you know, it's something Biden is
a little bit difficult when you're not in the room,
but it's but there's some obvious clinical traits that he's
(46:52):
been exhibiting for years. And we're talking since gosh, since
dating back to the debates in twenty twenty. Before that election,
he was having some difficulties as cognition certainly first, and
he certainly is you know, has has memory loss. He
does have a dementia, and everyone has to remember that
(47:13):
the word dementia is more of an umbrella term where
there's lots of different types of dementias, the most common
of course being Alzheimer's disease, but you know that doesn't
necessarily mean that he has that. More typically we see
the you know, the Alzheimer's disease, but we also have
front of temporal dementia, basket of dementia, and Louis Valley dementia.
(47:34):
And what's interesting is that the movement disorder specialist of
Parkinson's disease from Me to the White House is especially
interesting because the front of temple dementia patients do exhibit
up a lot of Parkinsonian features that can be associated
with that diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
How much can be don doc, thanks for being with us.
This has often talked about with with the medicines. For
I know, no one knows what a specific diagnosis is
for Joe Biden right now on this or what whether
he has one or not, and.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
What it would be.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
But in general terms, I mean when it comes to
things like Louis Body, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's things we've discussed here.
Is there a lot that can be done with treatment
these days for someone who's in Biden's position, who's trying
to still function at a particularly high level, or are
the drugs pretty limited in their effect?
Speaker 6 (48:26):
So right, it kind of depends on which diagnosis it
is correct.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
So paces with.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
Parkinson's disease, for instance, and we're telling and I'm talking
about idiopathic Parkinson's disease, primary, not the secondary parkinson ism,
but primary Parkinson's. Do these patients, do you fairly well
and respond well to something called carvedopa? Leave the dopa
because what it is is it's typically a movement disorder
that has a lack of dopamine or a neurotransmenter that
helps us initiate movements. And that's you see with Biden,
(48:54):
with President Biden with his slowness of movement, difficulty initiating movement,
the stooped posture, difficultly with walking gates, masked or expressionless space.
Those are typical things that can be helped, and particularly tremor.
But you don't see a tremor necessarily with President Biden.
(49:15):
But those types of symptoms can be managed quite well
with carbon don't believe a DOPA. Parkinson Ism, on the
other hand, due to a different cognitive problem or a
neurodegenerative problem, are not as well treated with the carbon
don't believe it dopa, and they just try to treat
the symptoms as they come, and it's not really well.
(49:38):
You can't really manage it as well as you'd like.
Particularly Louis body dementia, you see a very rapid decline,
a lot of fluctuation of cognitive status, meaning that one
day Grandpa might look really great, and the next time
you see him, gosh, Grandpa doesn't look very well. The
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swings of commission and mental collapse are very common in
that diagnosis.
Speaker 5 (50:04):
We're talking to a doctor in Nashville, family friend who
has been talking about this for some time.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I want to ask you. You mentioned that you could.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
Go back and look at the twenty twenty debates and
start to see some potential symptoms of an issue. When
we now have a report coming out from the New
York Times which also cites in that article many different
neurologists as saying what you're telling us, that there are
a lot of symptoms.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
He is exhibiting when.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
You hear that they've had eight different visits in basically
the last eight months or so to the White House,
and you see, as all of us do, the different
videos of him seeming to freeze up during the June teenth,
looking filled with lack of comfort in many different ways.
Does this appear to you to be progressing? And if
(50:53):
it is, how fast can progressions like these go? What
would a Joe Biden in your mind in twenty twenty
six or twenty twenty eight look like based on what
you've seen from twenty twenty four to now.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
Well, first of all, I don't really think that the
Parkinson's disease diagnosis is what he has, because what you
saw in the twenty twenty debates in early and the
you know, early two twenty twenties, you know, twenty one,
twenty two, twenty three, you see his memory loss almost
before the movement's got really bad. And that to that,
(51:31):
I mean that the dementia that comes with Parkinson's disease
is usually very late in the disease process. He already
exhibited the memory loss features much earlier a lot, and
it kind of coincided with his movement problem and so
that's why I think it tends to be more of
the neurodegenerative change of gluis by dementia. And now that
(51:52):
being said, now Parkinson's patients can typically works fairly well.
I mean, we had Michael J. Fox, for instance, who
was even on the moon be set, doing fairly well
and trying to work as an actor with the diagnosis
of idiopathic Parkinson's disease, trying to manage maybe overmanaged with
some of his carbidope believe a dopa as he had exhibited,
(52:15):
you know, initiation of movement problems and over stimulating himself
a little bit with the CARBI. Don't believe a dopas
because it makes you feel.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Good, Hey, doctor, problem go ahead, doctor.
Speaker 6 (52:25):
Hensha Is you Yeah. The Louis body dementia, however, will
progress very fairly rapidly. It doesn't, It won't. It won't.
The memory problems especially will you'll progress and certainly by
twenty twenty six. I don't think the few people you'll
see a definite decline.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
General question, doc, And it ties into that for somebody
who has one of these conditions that we're discussing here,
does the stress of I mean, look, it's the stress
of being the president we're talking about. But does staying
in a high stress job, you know, effect the day
to day of the progression of the disease. You know,
(53:07):
it's like if you if you were in a super
high stress role and you were at risk of stroke, Like,
that's not a good idea, right, or maybe heart attack
not a good idea. What about with this, Like does
it make it worse if there's more taxing demands on
your mind?
Speaker 6 (53:22):
Yeah, With any type of dementia, and I'm particularly thinking
that President Biden has the luid paty type, it will
be important to have a routine. You have to be
very careful and getting good sleep, and you can only
function just a few hours out of the day. We
(53:43):
as neurologists will tell patients to kind of use the
best times with mom or dad or Grandpa grandma at
the times when they're really really good, maybe between the
hours of seven am and eleven am, because after that
it's really not help. They can't function well. So it's
really important them to be on a good routine. You know.
(54:03):
At my patients with bad mentioned, we'll take the keys away.
I mean, we don't let them drive a car. You
just can't function at a normal They have to be
watched all the time.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
So let me let me build on that.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Let's say that this, uh, this, these doctors that are
trying to treat Joe Biden. We were talking about on
the air that there's a patient confidentiality aspects of that.
But you just mentioned taking away the keys of the car.
Obviously the president's not driving himself. But what obligations or
responsibilities do you think a doctor treating someone in a
(54:39):
position of this significance might uniquely have as part of
being a doctor that is different than you treating somebody's
grandma or grandpa. Uh, how does that play into the
way that you would respond and be treating someone in
a position like this.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
Yeah, certainly what these doctors are doing is trying to
give of medicines that might help you. Start with Kirby,
don't believe it, don't, but to see if any of
the parkinsonian features help you start with the maybe some
medicine at not to stop the sundowning or the confusion
that occurs in the nighttime hours, but the you know,
every physician takes a hypocritical and that hypocritical is to
(55:18):
do no harm.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
And so.
Speaker 6 (55:22):
The doctors have a responsibility to do no harm to
the patient, do no harm. And the president of the
United States has also an oath to be honest with
the country, as you know, to do no harm and.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
In his position as well.
Speaker 6 (55:35):
So it's really up to the physicians to honor that
oath of to do no harm. And certainly letting patients
do a job that they cannot fully function in is
doing harm.
Speaker 5 (55:50):
What do you think last question for you, and thank
you for the time here. What do you think doctor
Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife would be seeing bah behind
the scenes compared to what we see in public. In
other words, I'm sure when you talk to a lot
of your patients, one of the people that's bringing them
in kids, you know, wives, husbands, whoever, it might be
(56:13):
because of what they see that others might not see.
And initially they may not want to believe it. They
might not want to believe that their life partner is
having these sort of challenges. From a psychological perspective, what
do you think she's going through?
Speaker 1 (56:29):
What do you think she's seeing?
Speaker 5 (56:30):
Because we're only seeing Joe Biden, the President of the
United States, for five percent of the day at most,
what do you think she seeing behind the scenes?
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Right?
Speaker 6 (56:38):
And there's a reason why you're seeing only at five
percent of the day, right, because it can cognitively only
be there five percent of the day. You know, it
is really tough on caregivers and family members. The diagnosts
believe the demssia in particular is difficult because of the
fluctuation of the cognitive status and the swings that you'd see.
(56:59):
But more important, you know, if you could really if
I could talk to him, it would be interesting to
hear if he'd have any that. Most of the patients
do have some visual hallucinations. For instance, they might see
some animals or people that aren't there, and typically they
don't even bother the patient. They'll admit that they see them,
but they're not truly hallucinations that are bothersome to the patient.
(57:20):
But he might so he might be taught, you know,
being able to talk. He certainly wouldn't tell us that,
but but that would be one of the things. Sundowning
at night, the confusion at night is a big problem
with patients with any type of dementia. Remember that any
any type of dementia would have sun downing that's what
it's called. And then there's certainly some executive function problems,
(57:44):
some kind of a disinhibition where they do things or
say things that they might not we might not want
them to say in book, might be what they're saying
at home.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
Doc, really appreciate the expertise telling us about what the
possibilities are here, and thank you so much for.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
Calling in, and we may have to have you back,
so please keep your pager.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
Wait do you guys still have but you don't have
pagers anymore? Yeah, okay, thanks Doc, thank.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
You, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
So, yeah, Clay, remember that when doctors, doctors abulers had
pagers and that was pretty much it for a while.
Speaker 5 (58:23):
Yeah, And kids who were trying to seem like really
big deals in high school, do you remember that, like
one or two kids in a classroom, but.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
My mom's got a page me. It's like, yeah, I
don't know if that's true.
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