February 27, 2024 • 16 mins
Travis Kelce's dad called Bethenny a troll…and as you can imagine, she has something to say about that!
Then, to make things even more awkward, Bethenny shares details on her super cringe meeting with Justin Hartley!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Travis Kelsey's dad called me a troll.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So I do actually understand and admire a parent coming
to their child's defense, particularly when asked about it.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm sure he was asked about it. I'm sure he
didn't just come out.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Of the gate, and I just wish he would have
expressed an opinion versus just a verbal insult, because I think,
you know, as we teach our kids, it's better to
express yourself than to just criticize. And usually when I
say something about someone or someone's actions or behavior, I'm
(00:52):
explaining something that I don't agree with. But it's very rare.
I think back on Housewives was the last time and
maybe the only time, that I would actually just say
something that's a verbal insult. So I'm a Mama bear,
and I get that, but calling me a troll, which
of course is amazing clickbit and yay for Travis Kelsey's dad,
(01:15):
but it.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Seems like.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He's, you know, defending his son and his son I
referred to as a peacock. I wasn't even criticizing their relationship.
I was saying, usually there's only one peacock in a relationship,
and I dated a guy like that. That was very
over the top and very you know, just like loud
and gregarious and like needed to be the center of attention.
(01:40):
And I stand by that. I think that's who Travis is.
I did not mention him pushing his coach, which is
a physical expression versus using your words and having a conversation,
which is kind of like what.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
His dad did.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He used an insult instead of using his intellect. So
the swifties can come for me. But I'm going to
defend myself when I have said that they were in
my mount rushmore of couples, the two of them.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I mean, they're on top of the world.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
They're both very successful. I've said that I literally think
he's a peacock, and there are two peacocks in this relationship,
and it usually doesn't work. I'm allowed to think that
I'm a grown ass adult and I don't have to
think they're getting married and spending the rest of their
lives together. And I hope that they do, if that's
what they both want, and they'll live happily ever after.
(02:34):
But also for his dad to kind of get into
it is also just funny. It's sort of like the
kids getting into the drama on the Housewives or the husbands.
It's kind of like when p K gets into a
Housewives argument that Travis Kelsey's dad is now involved, should
I get brit involved? Now it's just a little absurd,
(02:55):
but it's making headlines, so sorry, not sorry. So I
was just that mom, I am cringe. I am embarrassing.
I am embarrassed. I was in the lobby of my
hotel in Vancouver and I saw Justin Hartley. So some background,
(03:19):
Brennan and I watched This Is Us during the pandemic,
finished it after the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But she really loved him.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
She just thought he was so sweet and cute and
loved his character and laughed at him in Bad Mom's
Christmas and.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
He's the number one.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
To her, and she sees him just like he's the
most handsome of all of them, you know, not in
a creepy way, but just a person who recognizes another
person that's a handsome, cute specimen. So either way, I'm
sitting in the lobby of a hotel just eating some
roasted potatoes, believe it or not, because I had a
(04:01):
to go box and I was waiting for my car
to pick me up, and I see Justin Hartley.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
My hair is up in a clip. I look horrendous.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I just like someone's therapist, and I mean just really
like I just had to rethink the look.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I had going.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think someone on social media saw me posting a
video and said, I like Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
It just all wasn't working.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I'm just getting a little into my like bohem
street fair of a phase and it's not good, but
I like it and it's comfortable and it's a disaster.
So anyway, I see him and I go up to
I'm like, here, I am. Now, I'm all the people
that come up to me that like, don't do it
seamlessly meaning to come up. You're just like, hey, you're awesome.
(04:43):
Can I get a picture? You know, like fast in
and out. You don't give any excuses. You don't say
I never do this because you're doing it. You don't
say I'm not a fan but my wife is, because
then you're not a fan. You don't know what to do,
and you get in and out real fast. So now
on that jackass and I walk over and it's the worst.
He's with a pretty woman and they're walking into the barn,
(05:07):
and I'm like excuse me. I've heard this before where
someone says your name behind You're like, oh, do I
have to deal with this right now? I'm going into
the bathroom. So I said, excuse me, I said, sir,
are you okay? What was I supposed to say?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Justin? I think I then did say justin, this is
what being a mom is. It's the worst.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's like when I did it with Adam saying they're horrendous.
So he turns out and he's like hi, and you know,
he's like so nice and he has to be nice.
He was trained on ABC, like Eric stone Street, like
you just you're gonna be nice, and he could be
very nice, but like you're trained on ABC and you're
on network television and you just you gotta be because
not being nice we could ruin everything. But inside you're like, oh,
(05:43):
please with this woman, and I'm going to the bathroom, douse,
you have no respect. I mean, he wasn't like by
a urinal. He was in the lobby, but towards the restroom,
and I think what I went with was I'm really sorry,
this is annoying. My daughter's a huge fan, and I
just that was it. Like, and he's like no, no,
you know, and then the camera was doing some weird
thing where it was like time laps, and it did
(06:04):
it like two times.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I've seen this before where someone's fumbling with their camera
and I'm like, Hi, do you know how to use
your own damn camera? Like get in and get out.
So I was that asshole, and I was like, I'm
like so, like, it's like you should get a one.
Try two tries, like two time laps.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Try. Sorry, ma'am, you're out.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And I do believe that I might have said, oh
my god, I might have said in the middle of
this interaction, I might have said I'm on TV too
or something. And by the way, it's a lie. I'm
not on TV. I've been on TV. Who cares?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
What a loser? Why would I don't know. I meant
to be like, we're the same. We're not the same.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You're dressed in art lay, I do tiktoks with seafood
and rooms with plastic bags over my hands. We're not
the same and we're not in the same club. And
if I told him that I was here in Vancouver
shooting the thing that I'm shooting, I don't know, like
I it just there was nowhere to go. And he
was totally gracious and totally nice and tall and fit
(06:58):
and was dressed in heckable and he had nice glasses sunglasses,
and he was handsome, and he was kind and he
was patient and he was chill. It wasn't going over
the topic let's call your daughter a video hear or
anything like that, but like totally if I were greeting
the interaction from a celebrity on the way into the restroom,
I'd give him an an A minus, like easily, you know,
(07:24):
an a minus. If I was just a teacher that
wasn't like in a very generous mood that day. If
I had to do a number, I'd give him a
ninety two. I think that is an A minus. I
think it's the high of an A minus. I think
an eighty eight is also an A minus. So then
I got the picture and I look like I should
(07:44):
be in a sewer. So there's that too. That was
That's like to add for the rest of my life.
I got a sewer picture just to send it to
my daughter. But don't worry, I can never post it
like we need Picasso or like van God like taking
my ear off would be an improvement considering what I
look like in this picture.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It was just like an.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Ougre slash Shrek and you know what, like yesterday I
had my hair blown out. I looked hot, like I
would have liked to see him like that, just even
though he's with the hot girl going inside, like just
to be like, oh, I'm a person. There was that
somewhat attractive woman. I ran into that's gonna be ranting
on me on my podcast and someone will tell me
about it. Someone tell him about it. So anyway, he
(08:22):
was lovely and it also had me thinking I know, oh,
but I had oh sorry. My closing argument was excellent
because I did say, oh, you here shooting something or
something like, which is like lingo here like everyone's saying that,
and it's like, no shit, no, I'm here, you know,
antiquing thrifting. I don't know, but John Senna or John
Cena lives here, so like he could live here, justin Artley.
(08:44):
I don't stalk him, but he's feeling la to me
because he was married to one of the girls from
Selling Sunset and he's on these ABC shows and I
don't know where they film because I'm not his stalker yet,
but I feel like he's la So he's here shooting something.
So I said, he's shooting something. And then I said,
is it that new show? And he said Tracker, And
then I said, and I'm not gonna say it's thank
(09:04):
you to Tailor Swift because it's really not because of
Taylor Swift. I'm watching the super Bowl, but it could
be because like everybody was watching it more where you
were an absolute loser if you weren't watching it, and
I wasn't really watching it. I watched part of it,
but I watched enough to know the ending of the movie,
so I was knowledgeable. And I guess I watched enough
to see the commercial for Tracker, the show that Justin
Hartley was in, and I liked it, and I thought like, oh,
(09:26):
that's gonna be a good show, and it's gonna be
my type of show, like in the vein of like
twenty four or maybe The Bodyguard, or there's some other shows.
Of course I can't think right now, but that are
good network shows that I like that are like actioning,
And in thinking about that now, I was also thinking
that I think Justin Hartley should be an action star,
like he should be in movies like The Born Identity,
(09:49):
Like I'm ready for him to take that next step
in his career, like Keanu used to have that role.
I just think it's time. I think Justin Hartley looking
at him, seeing him just for all you guys, I
did the homework. I saw him live and direct upfront.
He was kind and so he deserves to success. And
he's sheepish enough, like but tough enough, you know, like
(10:09):
he could be in shape enough, looks strong enough, look
protective enough. I think Justin Hartley should be the new
Jason Bourne. So he's probably gonna be really glad he
ran into me because now I'm the publicist that is
pushing this in his career. But somebody must have been
pushing something because he is in Tracker, which is kind
of like that. But I'd like to see him in
(10:31):
like feature films that are playing at the Iepick and
become the new Jason Bourne.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So that's a rant.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
This Wendy Williams thing is frankly unacceptable. And this is
a woman who has said so many nasty things about me,
which is entirely irrelevant because she has health issues, she's
been exploited.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
She is a human being. And it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That there's a documentary about this that yes, she's executive producing,
but history has shown that she's taken advantage of And
I know because I know from being on that set.
And the same syndication group produced my talk show as
produced hers. It was like a Fox owned station group.
I don't even remember, but I know it was the
(11:28):
same group that Green led hers. And I can't believe
the degradation of this, but I remember being on her
show several times, and I just remember the whisperings, as
I've said before, the rumblings of her husband taking a
(11:50):
lot of advantage of her.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
But we don't know. I wasn't there. We can't know.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I just know what everyone said. People on the show
seem to feel that he ran the show in a
crazy way, but who knows what.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I don't know anything about him.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know what he was dealing with. This sounds insane.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But she now has degeneration, mental degeneration. I think it's
not called that, but that's what it is on set, dementia.
So they're doing a reality show and Wells Fargo had
to get involved at some point, saying that her family
(12:26):
was financially irresponsible and sort of exploiting her, and her
niece was on with Deborah Roberts saying that she doesn't
know of anyone exploiting her financially, which of course she's
not going to say, and then another woman was interviewed saying, well,
we're her family were trying to take care of her.
The money's over there, and that's scary because someone paid
(12:47):
for a documentary. Where does the money go? As Deborah
Roberts asked, And to be honest, when I saw the
ads for the documentary, I didn't even think about the exploitation.
Like just watching the clip of Deborah Roberts talking about it,
I was like, wait, that's so true, Like, what the hell?
How do we have a documentary about Wendy Williams who's.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Not right and her eyes don't look right.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And they say she's had issues with alcohol. And as
I've said before, the pressure of that talk show, a
talk show is psychotic, Like it's another one of those
things that you just watch and you're entertained, but you
don't realize what goes on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
It is a machine that.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Grinds and cranks with two hundred people there every day
that once the train leaves the station, you can't pull
it back. And it's just all day, every day, pressure, wardrobe, makeup, segments, mistakes, cancelations.
Always gotta be happy. So she's got that. She had
a drinking issue, she had issues with her husband and
(13:46):
a divorce. She's on TV trashing people every day. That
became her most successful segment. Maybe she didn't want to
be trashing people every day. Who even knows, but always
in a battle with someone, and then her money is
taken and then her mind is taken, and then she's
(14:06):
doing a documentary that she's producing. But like maybe she
has moments of being lucid, but like, I don't know,
it sounds yeah, it sounds like reckless and irresponsible, and
it sounds like when Amanda Binds wasn't well, Like should
we have done a documentary on her? It's terribly tragic,
and Deborah Roberts is brilliant and asked all the right
(14:27):
questions in you know, a seemingly compassionate way, but it
wasn't a good look and it's super sad, and it's
said all she wants to do is be back on TV.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know what a I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It's life is so precious, like rise and fall is serious,
like someone's like on top of the world, and then
you know, and the mind is wild, like do people
snap or it just like one day, I don't know,
because I knew a man, a very successful man in
real estate, good looking, charming, rich, you know, just great
(15:06):
golf player, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And I had.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Heard some things about him, and then one night I
saw him in the Hamptons and the way that he
acted so incredibly irrationally, Like I've seen that happen where
someone can can kind of go off the deep end
and they're not the same person, could be a million things,
but like when it happens, you're shocked because you don't
(15:32):
recognize the person from before. So we have to really
be so grateful to have a mind and to have
our wits about us, because it could go, you know,
in an instant, and it's I'm scared, Like it's really sad.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I just feel terrible.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Like I've met Wendy many times and it's just like
she was certainly lucid, insane and together, really tragic. Really
really try and not saying a single bad thing about
her because she's going through a terrible time. I just
started with saying, this is a woman that said a
lot of bad things about me, because it's true. I
(16:08):
would cringe many times. But like when a human being
is suffering, like there's nothing else to say, you know,
it's just a human being.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I feel terrible for her, and I hope someone's taking
care of her
Travis Kelsey's dad called me a troll.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So I do actually understand and admire a parent coming
to their child's defense, particularly when asked about it.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm sure he was asked about it. I'm sure he
didn't just come out.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Of the gate, and I just wish he would have
expressed an opinion versus just a verbal insult, because I think,
you know, as we teach our kids, it's better to
express yourself than to just criticize. And usually when I
say something about someone or someone's actions or behavior, I'm
(00:52):
explaining something that I don't agree with. But it's very rare.
I think back on Housewives was the last time and
maybe the only time, that I would actually just say
something that's a verbal insult. So I'm a Mama bear,
and I get that, but calling me a troll, which
of course is amazing clickbit and yay for Travis Kelsey's dad,
(01:15):
but it.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Seems like.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He's, you know, defending his son and his son I
referred to as a peacock. I wasn't even criticizing their relationship.
I was saying, usually there's only one peacock in a relationship,
and I dated a guy like that. That was very
over the top and very you know, just like loud
and gregarious and like needed to be the center of attention.
(01:40):
And I stand by that. I think that's who Travis is.
I did not mention him pushing his coach, which is
a physical expression versus using your words and having a conversation,
which is kind of like what.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
His dad did.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He used an insult instead of using his intellect. So
the swifties can come for me. But I'm going to
defend myself when I have said that they were in
my mount rushmore of couples, the two of them.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I mean, they're on top of the world.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
They're both very successful. I've said that I literally think
he's a peacock, and there are two peacocks in this relationship,
and it usually doesn't work. I'm allowed to think that
I'm a grown ass adult and I don't have to
think they're getting married and spending the rest of their
lives together. And I hope that they do, if that's
what they both want, and they'll live happily ever after.
(02:34):
But also for his dad to kind of get into
it is also just funny. It's sort of like the
kids getting into the drama on the Housewives or the husbands.
It's kind of like when p K gets into a
Housewives argument that Travis Kelsey's dad is now involved, should
I get brit involved? Now it's just a little absurd,
(02:55):
but it's making headlines, so sorry, not sorry. So I
was just that mom, I am cringe. I am embarrassing.
I am embarrassed. I was in the lobby of my
hotel in Vancouver and I saw Justin Hartley. So some background,
(03:19):
Brennan and I watched This Is Us during the pandemic,
finished it after the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But she really loved him.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
She just thought he was so sweet and cute and
loved his character and laughed at him in Bad Mom's
Christmas and.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
He's the number one.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
To her, and she sees him just like he's the
most handsome of all of them, you know, not in
a creepy way, but just a person who recognizes another
person that's a handsome, cute specimen. So either way, I'm
sitting in the lobby of a hotel just eating some
roasted potatoes, believe it or not, because I had a
(04:01):
to go box and I was waiting for my car
to pick me up, and I see Justin Hartley.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
My hair is up in a clip. I look horrendous.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I just like someone's therapist, and I mean just really
like I just had to rethink the look.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I had going.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think someone on social media saw me posting a
video and said, I like Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
It just all wasn't working.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I'm just getting a little into my like bohem
street fair of a phase and it's not good, but
I like it and it's comfortable and it's a disaster.
So anyway, I see him and I go up to
I'm like, here, I am. Now, I'm all the people
that come up to me that like, don't do it
seamlessly meaning to come up. You're just like, hey, you're awesome.
(04:43):
Can I get a picture? You know, like fast in
and out. You don't give any excuses. You don't say
I never do this because you're doing it. You don't
say I'm not a fan but my wife is, because
then you're not a fan. You don't know what to do,
and you get in and out real fast. So now
on that jackass and I walk over and it's the worst.
He's with a pretty woman and they're walking into the barn,
(05:07):
and I'm like excuse me. I've heard this before where
someone says your name behind You're like, oh, do I
have to deal with this right now? I'm going into
the bathroom. So I said, excuse me, I said, sir,
are you okay? What was I supposed to say?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Justin? I think I then did say justin, this is
what being a mom is. It's the worst.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's like when I did it with Adam saying they're horrendous.
So he turns out and he's like hi, and you know,
he's like so nice and he has to be nice.
He was trained on ABC, like Eric stone Street, like
you just you're gonna be nice, and he could be
very nice, but like you're trained on ABC and you're
on network television and you just you gotta be because
not being nice we could ruin everything. But inside you're like, oh,
(05:43):
please with this woman, and I'm going to the bathroom, douse,
you have no respect. I mean, he wasn't like by
a urinal. He was in the lobby, but towards the restroom,
and I think what I went with was I'm really sorry,
this is annoying. My daughter's a huge fan, and I
just that was it. Like, and he's like no, no,
you know, and then the camera was doing some weird
thing where it was like time laps, and it did
(06:04):
it like two times.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I've seen this before where someone's fumbling with their camera
and I'm like, Hi, do you know how to use
your own damn camera? Like get in and get out.
So I was that asshole, and I was like, I'm
like so, like, it's like you should get a one.
Try two tries, like two time laps.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Try. Sorry, ma'am, you're out.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And I do believe that I might have said, oh
my god, I might have said in the middle of
this interaction, I might have said I'm on TV too
or something. And by the way, it's a lie. I'm
not on TV. I've been on TV. Who cares?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
What a loser? Why would I don't know. I meant
to be like, we're the same. We're not the same.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You're dressed in art lay, I do tiktoks with seafood
and rooms with plastic bags over my hands. We're not
the same and we're not in the same club. And
if I told him that I was here in Vancouver
shooting the thing that I'm shooting, I don't know, like
I it just there was nowhere to go. And he
was totally gracious and totally nice and tall and fit
(06:58):
and was dressed in heckable and he had nice glasses sunglasses,
and he was handsome, and he was kind and he
was patient and he was chill. It wasn't going over
the topic let's call your daughter a video hear or
anything like that, but like totally if I were greeting
the interaction from a celebrity on the way into the restroom,
I'd give him an an A minus, like easily, you know,
(07:24):
an a minus. If I was just a teacher that
wasn't like in a very generous mood that day. If
I had to do a number, I'd give him a
ninety two. I think that is an A minus. I
think it's the high of an A minus. I think
an eighty eight is also an A minus. So then
I got the picture and I look like I should
(07:44):
be in a sewer. So there's that too. That was
That's like to add for the rest of my life.
I got a sewer picture just to send it to
my daughter. But don't worry, I can never post it
like we need Picasso or like van God like taking
my ear off would be an improvement considering what I
look like in this picture.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It was just like an.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Ougre slash Shrek and you know what, like yesterday I
had my hair blown out. I looked hot, like I
would have liked to see him like that, just even
though he's with the hot girl going inside, like just
to be like, oh, I'm a person. There was that
somewhat attractive woman. I ran into that's gonna be ranting
on me on my podcast and someone will tell me
about it. Someone tell him about it. So anyway, he
(08:22):
was lovely and it also had me thinking I know, oh,
but I had oh sorry. My closing argument was excellent
because I did say, oh, you here shooting something or
something like, which is like lingo here like everyone's saying that,
and it's like, no shit, no, I'm here, you know,
antiquing thrifting. I don't know, but John Senna or John
Cena lives here, so like he could live here, justin Artley.
(08:44):
I don't stalk him, but he's feeling la to me
because he was married to one of the girls from
Selling Sunset and he's on these ABC shows and I
don't know where they film because I'm not his stalker yet,
but I feel like he's la So he's here shooting something.
So I said, he's shooting something. And then I said,
is it that new show? And he said Tracker, And
then I said, and I'm not gonna say it's thank
(09:04):
you to Tailor Swift because it's really not because of
Taylor Swift. I'm watching the super Bowl, but it could
be because like everybody was watching it more where you
were an absolute loser if you weren't watching it, and
I wasn't really watching it. I watched part of it,
but I watched enough to know the ending of the movie,
so I was knowledgeable. And I guess I watched enough
to see the commercial for Tracker, the show that Justin
Hartley was in, and I liked it, and I thought like, oh,
(09:26):
that's gonna be a good show, and it's gonna be
my type of show, like in the vein of like
twenty four or maybe The Bodyguard, or there's some other shows.
Of course I can't think right now, but that are
good network shows that I like that are like actioning,
And in thinking about that now, I was also thinking
that I think Justin Hartley should be an action star,
like he should be in movies like The Born Identity,
(09:49):
Like I'm ready for him to take that next step
in his career, like Keanu used to have that role.
I just think it's time. I think Justin Hartley looking
at him, seeing him just for all you guys, I
did the homework. I saw him live and direct upfront.
He was kind and so he deserves to success. And
he's sheepish enough, like but tough enough, you know, like
(10:09):
he could be in shape enough, looks strong enough, look
protective enough. I think Justin Hartley should be the new
Jason Bourne. So he's probably gonna be really glad he
ran into me because now I'm the publicist that is
pushing this in his career. But somebody must have been
pushing something because he is in Tracker, which is kind
of like that. But I'd like to see him in
(10:31):
like feature films that are playing at the Iepick and
become the new Jason Bourne.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So that's a rant.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
This Wendy Williams thing is frankly unacceptable. And this is
a woman who has said so many nasty things about me,
which is entirely irrelevant because she has health issues, she's
been exploited.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
She is a human being. And it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That there's a documentary about this that yes, she's executive producing,
but history has shown that she's taken advantage of And
I know because I know from being on that set.
And the same syndication group produced my talk show as
produced hers. It was like a Fox owned station group.
I don't even remember, but I know it was the
(11:28):
same group that Green led hers. And I can't believe
the degradation of this, but I remember being on her
show several times, and I just remember the whisperings, as
I've said before, the rumblings of her husband taking a
(11:50):
lot of advantage of her.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
But we don't know. I wasn't there. We can't know.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I just know what everyone said. People on the show
seem to feel that he ran the show in a
crazy way, but who knows what.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I don't know anything about him.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know what he was dealing with. This sounds insane.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But she now has degeneration, mental degeneration. I think it's
not called that, but that's what it is on set, dementia.
So they're doing a reality show and Wells Fargo had
to get involved at some point, saying that her family
(12:26):
was financially irresponsible and sort of exploiting her, and her
niece was on with Deborah Roberts saying that she doesn't
know of anyone exploiting her financially, which of course she's
not going to say, and then another woman was interviewed saying, well,
we're her family were trying to take care of her.
The money's over there, and that's scary because someone paid
(12:47):
for a documentary. Where does the money go? As Deborah
Roberts asked, And to be honest, when I saw the
ads for the documentary, I didn't even think about the exploitation.
Like just watching the clip of Deborah Roberts talking about it,
I was like, wait, that's so true, Like, what the hell?
How do we have a documentary about Wendy Williams who's.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Not right and her eyes don't look right.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And they say she's had issues with alcohol. And as
I've said before, the pressure of that talk show, a
talk show is psychotic, Like it's another one of those
things that you just watch and you're entertained, but you
don't realize what goes on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
It is a machine that.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Grinds and cranks with two hundred people there every day
that once the train leaves the station, you can't pull
it back. And it's just all day, every day, pressure, wardrobe, makeup, segments, mistakes, cancelations.
Always gotta be happy. So she's got that. She had
a drinking issue, she had issues with her husband and
(13:46):
a divorce. She's on TV trashing people every day. That
became her most successful segment. Maybe she didn't want to
be trashing people every day. Who even knows, but always
in a battle with someone, and then her money is
taken and then her mind is taken, and then she's
(14:06):
doing a documentary that she's producing. But like maybe she
has moments of being lucid, but like, I don't know,
it sounds yeah, it sounds like reckless and irresponsible, and
it sounds like when Amanda Binds wasn't well, Like should
we have done a documentary on her? It's terribly tragic,
and Deborah Roberts is brilliant and asked all the right
(14:27):
questions in you know, a seemingly compassionate way, but it
wasn't a good look and it's super sad, and it's
said all she wants to do is be back on TV.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know what a I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It's life is so precious, like rise and fall is serious,
like someone's like on top of the world, and then
you know, and the mind is wild, like do people
snap or it just like one day, I don't know,
because I knew a man, a very successful man in
real estate, good looking, charming, rich, you know, just great
(15:06):
golf player, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And I had.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Heard some things about him, and then one night I
saw him in the Hamptons and the way that he
acted so incredibly irrationally, Like I've seen that happen where
someone can can kind of go off the deep end
and they're not the same person, could be a million things,
but like when it happens, you're shocked because you don't
(15:32):
recognize the person from before. So we have to really
be so grateful to have a mind and to have
our wits about us, because it could go, you know,
in an instant, and it's I'm scared, Like it's really sad.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I just feel terrible.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Like I've met Wendy many times and it's just like
she was certainly lucid, insane and together, really tragic. Really
really try and not saying a single bad thing about
her because she's going through a terrible time. I just
started with saying, this is a woman that said a
lot of bad things about me, because it's true. I
(16:08):
would cringe many times. But like when a human being
is suffering, like there's nothing else to say, you know,
it's just a human being.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I feel terrible for her, and I hope someone's taking
care of her
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