Men Who Hate Women: From Incels to Pickup Artists: The Truth about Extreme Misogyny and How it Affects Us All
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We don’t like to risk offending men.
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Not because it'll start an argument but simply because they might kill us <3
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We describe a woman as having been raped; we discuss the rates of women sexually assaulted or beaten. We do not speak in terms of men committing rape or being sexual assaulters and violent abusers. That is what makes it so easy to focus on women’s dress, behavior, and choices
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Yeah, I wonder who's doing that to women....hmmm...
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Because a rape is a shadowy, dark thing waiting to befall women who walk in alleyways wearing short skirts, not a deliberate, criminal choice made by real men.
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DELIBERATE CRIMINAL CHOICE MADE BY REAL MEN
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If we talk about masculinity, patriarchy, or male privilege, the conversations are immediately derailed by accusations of generalization and prejudice. “Not all men,” rises the ubiquitous cry.
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"not all men" but more than enough to suspect ALL
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To question why some men behave in certain ways is viewed as an assault on all men and thus unacceptable.
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We do not use the word terrorism when describing a crime of mass murder committed by a white man with the explicit intention of creating terror and spreading hatred against a specific demographic group—even though that is the definition of terrorism—if the demographic in question is women. The man is just “disturbed,” “deranged,” a “lone wolf.”
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If they're white there's no waaaayyyyyy they could be a terrorist!!!!!!
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What if violence against women has become so much a part of the wallpaper of our lives that it has blended in altogether? What if our desensitization to low-level, ubiquitous misogyny is preventing us from recognizing a fully blown crisis?
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It was women who were privileged, who held all the cards, and who were given all the advantages. Men were the true victims.
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Men wanna be victims sooooo bad.
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there are hundreds of thousands of people out there despising women to the point that many of them believe we should all be exterminated,
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And in turn I wish these men would be exterminated like ugly little roaches <3333
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The myth of male privilege, so the story goes, is perpetuated by a massive feminist conspiracy. Incels refer to this man-hating world as a “gynocracy,” a clever system designed to keep men (the true victims of oppression) in their subordinate place without them even noticing.
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
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(The fact that the Matrix trilogy was created by two transgender women or that its kick-ass female characters would revolt against the misogynistic ideology of any manosphere community is an irony apparently lost on incels.)
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Men are incapable of wrapping their heads around the concept of irony.
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(That the very term was invented by a bisexual woman is a sad reminder of how ludicrously narrow subsequent incel beliefs have become.)
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the alt-right takes a privileged group (white people) and sells them the comforting idea that they are really the ones facing discrimination at the hands of the group actually facing prejudice (people of color and immigrants), who are portrayed as the true oppressors.
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gaslightinggggggg
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white sharia is the argument that white men should adopt their own version of what they perceive as the Islamic practice of enslaving women. The aim would be to remove white women’s sexual autonomy and force them (through brutal rape and servitude) to become “baby factories.” This would enable white supremacists to ensure the “purity” of their race and create enough new recruits to their cause to overthrow the invading hordes of immigrants and the tyranny of the all-controlling, corrupt Jewish forces they believe dominate our society.
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Men are a DISEASE
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Foid is a shortening of “female humanoid,” a term incels use to refer to women, because the word woman allows too much of a sense of humanity. Rapecel (used sickeningly commonly online, to the extent that it has spawned its own forums and discussion groups) denotes an incel who simply resorts to rape to “resolve” his sexual frustration. The creation of a single, offhand word to describe this somehow makes it seem like a normal, even mundane notion.
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Shot in the head. All of them. I would like to see it kthx
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Incel logic seems to reveal a hopeless contradiction: women are simultaneously reviled for sleeping with men and for refusing to do so. One user, for example, described women as “greedy selfish evil crazed sluts, who prevent decent hard working men, from achieving their biological purpose.”
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men are rarely decent LOL. exhibit a: this fucking jackass
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First, there is the notion that women are dehumanized objects: subhumans who are either too evil or too stupid to deserve to make decisions about their own lives and bodies.
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A thread titled “Should Women Be Considered Human?” attracted lengthy debate, most of it coming to the conclusion that they should not. This is a common area of discussion. “Women are not sentient,” wrote another user. “All women are whores.” In a conversation about whether women should have legal rights, a user wrote, “I hardly consider them an alive body let alone entitled to having human rights.”
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So I really mean it when I say I wish all these men were dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIE
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I can get a 10 page thread on here,” and another said that he has “decided to become a rapecel,” asking other users for “thoughts, advice, experience.” His peer responded encouragingly: “Go nuts!… you’ll find it’s impossible to get caught if you do it properly… you have a 98.95% chance of getting away with it if you rape.”
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so it's very interesting that men are sooooooooooo afraid of #metoo and persecution when apparently they have an almost complete chance of "getting any with it." which one is it??????? contradiction on top of contradiction on top of -
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Other “rationalizations” included the argument that it is women’s fault men are driven to rape in the first place (because they refuse to provide them with sex), thus absolving rapists of responsibility—a typical form of incel logic that reverses the positions of victim and perpetrator.
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Men don't know what accountability means, nor do they know how to spell it.
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Another incel forum member wrote a passionate defense of rape and slavery: Taking female slaves has always been a normal part of human history, when enemies would fight each other the winning party would take female slaves and distribute them among the fighters. As an incel you were rewarded in history when joining an army, you would raid towns and villages and took female slaves for yourself and make babies with them. History had place for incels, incels in the Roman or any other empire had better options than we have today.
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If you think slavery and treating women like subhuman objects is "normal," I wish you a very die. I swear to god if I met any of these men on the street I would kill them on the spot :)
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I don’t know why you girls aren’t attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it. It’s an injustice, a crime, because I don’t know what you don’t see in me, I’m the perfect guy, and yet you throw yourselves at all these obnoxious men instead of me, the supreme gentleman.
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Amazinggggg how men continue to think they are OWED, they DESERVE, for women to like them. have sex with them, etc. Why do they think that????? Especially when they usually suck to their very core....meanwhile women have never thought this EVER. Narcissists, all of them.
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Outside in the parking lot, he took out the knives and waited until he saw a woman with a young daughter and a baby in a stroller. He attacked them, severing an artery in the woman’s neck and injuring the baby. The woman survived, after bystanders subdued Stavropoulos and managed to slow the bleeding until she could be rushed to hospital. Stavropoulos later told police: “I was angry at white women. I like white women but they won’t fuck me. So, I wanted to see what it felt like (to kill a female child).” He also told police “I don’t get laid,” informing them that he identified as an incel.24
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Men are fucking pathetic. To injure a BABY????????????????????? Death by firing squad.
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How dare those girls give their love and sex to those other men and not me?”
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All of these men are insecure narcissists.
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Dumb sluts either deserve to be raped for rejecting men or outright killed.” In perhaps the starkest example I have seen of dehumanizing misogyny in all my months of research on these forums, one user wrote, “I just wish this poor guy had raped the girl before killing, that way she would die knowing that the boy she rejected had still been inside of her body.”
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And I started to register just how many of the stories men told about manifesting incel ideas in their daily lives echoed and matched the thousands of stories I receive every year from women who are being harassed, assaulted, and abused.
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We are talking about an industry that exploits men’s worst fears, preys on their vulnerabilities, and literally trains them in harassment, stalking, and even sexual assault.
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Other threads focus on the best ways to manipulate or coerce women in sexual situations: in one thread, titled “How to Convince a Chick to Swallow,” users swapped fake news articles about semen being good for women’s health in the hope that they could use the information to put pressure on sexual partners to swallow their sperm or accept being “sprayed in the face.” Others advised more direct methods that simply override a woman’s consent, like “‘forget’ to pull out in time and just blast inside.” Another user suggested, “Hold her mouth and nose shut. Just like when you have to get your dog to ...more
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I'm glad I'm reading this relatively young because for at least the past year or so I instinctively don't trust men anymore. I suspect them of the worst behavior right off the bat. I don't want them to talk to me, to touch me, to be in my general sphere. Whenever a man opens his mouth, I just think, "Yeah, this is a bunch of bullshit and I wish he would shut the hell up."
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The implication of this is twofold: the only meaningful relationship with a woman must be a sexual one, and there are so many women ready to lie about rape that any contact with them is simply too dangerous to risk.
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If you said the words "statistics" or "fact" to these men, they would all spontaneously combust. They need to go back to kindergarten.
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MRAs believe that women are so unfaithful and untruthful that they often force men to raise other men’s children, thus financially “cuckolding” them. MGTOW believe that women are extremely likely to make false accusations of sexual or domestic violence in order to damage men socially, steal their money, or even vindictively attempt to have them jailed.
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And this is funny considering it's often MEN who are the cheating scumbags. Also, you shouldn't be worried about sexual assault allegations unless you're actively forcing yourself on women sooooooo
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“When it comes to marriage, the system is so stacked against men, it does not make sense.”
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LMAO remind me, which sex was considered "property" to their fathers/husbands for hundreds of years? Hmmm let me think.....
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Women are essentially portrayed as parasites, simply riding on the coattails of men, who have, throughout history, been responsible for “far greater miracles of science, discovery and human endeavor.” By shaking women off, it is explained, men will be free to pursue ever higher achievements. Think women might have been affected by historic discrimination that barred them from those fields in the first place? Wrong. According to MGTOW philosophy, the truth is that women have simply never contributed much of real value to society and ought to be grateful for any scraps that superior men deign to ...more
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lmfaooo I CANNOT WITH THIS BULLSHIT IM CRYING
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Women are out of control and have been for a very long time. It’s going to take a serious event to get them to behave like decent adults. Men aren’t men anymore and have allowed women to walk all over them. So, as for the rest of us, we have no choice but to do what we’re doing now and just go our own way.
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im actually laughing rn i mean how delulu can a man BE (answer: incredibly)
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Another website is focused on “helping” men who want to divorce. Modern marriage, it declares, is a form of “legalized slavery.”
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Yes, for women.
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these men are influenced to conclude that the breakdowns of their relationships were entirely due to malicious women, thereby avoiding any introspection or responsibility and enabling them to perceive themselves as blameless victims.
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GOD FORBID THEY INTROSPECT!!!!!!!!
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As one typical site puts it, “The internet was…created by men (for other men), and it is only by our divine manly grace that women are permitted to use it.” Tell that to Ada Lovelace and Grace Hopper.
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So these men just speak lies and consider it truth huh. I bet he's never once read an actual book. If he had, he might know how and why the internet was made, and it was definitely not for men to shitpost and misspell every other word LOL.
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We do not believe in arguing with females. Women “feel” the world. They don’t “think” the world. So you cannot change a female’s mind by way of entreaties or logical argumentation. The only action that will change a female’s mind is Force. Denying a woman your attention is the most effective way to deal with females in the current gynocentric system of Caucasian supremacy.
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'Logical argumentation' has me screaming.
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It is, one imagines, very difficult for a man to release himself completely from the toxic and damaging impact of women and all they represent—blissfully freeing himself to live a life of simple, manly fulfillment—while remaining entangled within a community feverishly obsessed with, well, women.
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claims emerged that the women’s testimonies were invented or exaggerated and that those speaking out against public figures were greedy gold diggers looking for five minutes of fame.
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Because women are always treated SO well when they speak out, so why not fake an assault....right??????
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outrage was directed at the supposedly “cucked” liberal media for promoting the #MeToo lies and misandry of the controlling feminazi elite.
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Imagine speaking this belief aloud....you would immediately be escorted to the nearest psych ward.
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mainstream examples sought to cast men as the real victims of the #MeToo movement. Men, it argued, had little choice but to protect themselves from the all-powerful cabal of rampaging, vindictive women making up false accusations of harassment or abuse.
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MEN WANNA BE VICTIMS SOOOOOOOOO BAD.
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If someone in your hospital says you had inappropriate contact with this woman, you get suspended for an investigation, and your life is over.
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Um your life is only over if you did in fact act inappropriately towards a woman.....men are telling on themselves.
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His apparent implication that such accusations are simply random, based on no wrongdoing whatsoever, went unchallenged in the piece.
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Not one of these men seems to have considered that they could have achieved the same effect by simply not sexually harassing or assaulting any women.
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DING DING DING
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“If Weinstein had obeyed @VP Pence’s rules for meeting with the opposite sex, none of those poor women would ever have been abused.” Of course, if Weinstein hadn’t been an abusive predator, the same outcome could have been achieved too. Just a thought.
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GO OFF GIRL
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As writer and feminist activist Soraya Chemaly highlighted, this means that over a quarter of American men are committing workplace discrimination and violating Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, which bars differential treatment of people in the workplace on the basis, in this case, of sex.
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actual facts right here. every single argument about men being wah wah victims can be immediately turned on its head because it's alwayyyyyyys women who are discriminated against and treated unfairly, no matter how much y'all repulsive men bitch and whine.
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Men’s Rights Activists (MRAs) might more accurately be described as Women’s Wrongs Activists. The name suggests something noble and important: a focus on the many issues affecting men today. The reality is very different.
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LOL
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MRAs are about as focused on men’s rights as defense contractors are invested in maintaining peace.
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This is so funny. Can't wait for this section.
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To quote a typical summary of the movement from one men’s rights blog, “From a feminist perspective ‘gender equality’ has come to mean female domination, and male subjugation. It has lead [sic] to a reversal of discrimination, where once women were marginalized, and disparaged men have now taken their place.”
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Wild.
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women-only spaces—alleging discrimination on the part of sports teams, networking events, and groups seeking to increase women’s participation in business and technology—and has often settled with the organizers for large sums of money. It has also filed court cases seeking to force the defunding of women’s domestic violence shelters unless they admit men.
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What absolute piles of human shit.
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