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‘Hocus Pocus’ was actually a flop

Vinessa Shaw, best known for playing Allison in “Hocus Pocus,” had no idea 25 years ago the film would become one of the most iconic Halloween movies of all time.

“It was actually a flop when it came out,” Shaw told Page Six, adding that the film was released in July with the hopes of it becoming a summer blockbuster. “[Bette Midler] had gotten an Oscar for her work and had all these prestigious things that she’d been doing and then she decides to do this movie which in the critics’ eyes, it was just appalling. They were just thinking, ‘How could she do this?’”

Omri Katz, Thora Birch and Vinessa Shaw
Omri Katz, Thora Birch and Vinessa Shaw©Buena Vista Pictures/Courtesy Everett Collection

But Midler got the last laugh. This October, Freeform is set to air “Hocus Pocus” 28 times.

Shaw, 42, was a teenager when she first auditioned for “Hocus Pocus,” saying she felt like a “kid at a candy shop” walking down the animated streets of the Disney lot.

Her first audition was with director Kenny Ortega, who called her back in for a chemistry read with two actors who were auditioning to play her love interest, Max.

“It was Omri Katz and then there was supposed to be another person named Leonardo DiCaprio,” she said.

DiCaprio didn’t end up doing the chemistry read and went on to star in “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape,” but Shaw had met DiCaprio after working on a TV show with his pal Tobey Maguire. “The world of young actors was really small back then so everyone knew each other. If you met them once, you saw them a million times after that because the circles were very small. So I knew he was coming in to possibly audition, but I think he had bigger fish to fry.”

Katz eventually was cast as Max, the teenage virgin who accidentally brings back three evil witches, and Thora Birch as his younger sister Dani.

“Thora will always be like a sister to me,” Shaw said. “She’s so great and being able to find people who have kind of survived a young actor’s world and made it through to the other side, you kind of want to glom onto. She’s such a real person and is always herself. I always find that refreshing.”

When it comes to on-set stories, some of Shaw’s most vivid memories were working with the many different cats that portrayed Thackery Binx.

“I think there [were] like over 60-something cats that they used for this movie,” Shaw explained. “I remember going back and seeing this wall of cats literally in their cages, ready to perform, because you can only teach a cat one or two tricks each … I really marveled at the animal trainers who got these cats to do their one trick.”

She continued, “There was one scene where I’m opening up the [spell] book, and the cat has to jump on it and close the book. We had to do that one over and over again because the cat didn’t jump in the right place or the timing was bad. I just remember us repeating that line again over and over again feeling like it was never going to end.”

Twenty-five years later, Shaw is still acting and welcomed her first child in March, a baby boy named Jack.

And although Shaw has no inside scoop about the “Hocus Pocus” remake reportedly in the works at Disney Channel, she would happily be a part of it.

“I would do it in a heartbeat because I have nothing but good memories of it,” she told us. “There would be nothing better than to be able to give that gift again.”

Where the cast of “Hocus Pocus” is 25 years later: 

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Twenty-five years ago, the Sanderson Sisters put a spell on us -- and we haven't been the same since. "Hocus Pocus," which is available to rent on iTunes, came out in 1993 and has since become one of the most iconic Halloween movies of all time. Here's what the the stars of the film are doing 25 years after its release. Buena Vista Pictures
Between her Tony-winning turn in Broadway's "Hello, Dolly!" and her politically charged social media presence, Bette Midler, who played Winifred Sanderson in "Hocus Pocus," is still very much in the spotlight.
Between her Tony-winning turn in Broadway's "Hello, Dolly!" and her politically charged social media presence, Bette Midler, who was already a huge star when she played Winifred Sanderson in "Hocus Pocus," is still very much in the spotlight. Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
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Before she was Carrie Bradshaw, Sarah Jessica Parker was playing Sarah Sanderson, the simple-minded Sanderson sister in "Hocus Pocus." These days, she has a shoe line, a book club and a starring role on HBO's "Divorce."
Before she was Carrie Bradshaw, Sarah Jessica Parker was playing Sarah Sanderson, the simple-minded witch in "Hocus Pocus." These days, she has a shoe line, a book club and a starring role on HBO's "Divorce."Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
Kathy Najimy played the third Sanderson sister, Mary. Following the 1993 film, Najimy continued to act and has recently appeared in "Younger," "Veep" and "Graves." She also voices' Peggy on "King of The Hill."
Kathy Najimy played the third Sanderson sister, Mary. Following the 1993 film, Najimy continued to act and has recently appeared in "Younger," "Veep" and "Graves." She also voices Peggy on "King of The Hill." Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
Thora Birch was set to become a big Hollywood star after playing Dani in "Hocus Pocus," when she landed roles in "American Beauty" and "Ghost World" in the late '90s and early '00s. She continued acting in indie movies and most recently completed "Above Suspicion" alongside Emilia Clarke and Johnny Knoxville.
Thora Birch was set to become a big Hollywood star after playing Dani in "Hocus Pocus," when she landed roles in "American Beauty" and "Ghost World" in the late '90s and early '00s. She continued acting in indie movies and most recently completed "Above Suspicion" alongside Emilia Clarke and Johnny Knoxville.Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
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Omri Katz, who played Max (a.k.a. the virgin who lit the candle and brought back the Sanderson sisters), stepped away from acting in 2002. It's unclear what he's doing for work these days, but according to Instagram account, he's into wake surfing, motorcycles and his pit bull puppy.
Omri Katz, who played Max (a.k.a. the virgin who lit the candle and brought back the Sanderson sisters), stepped away from acting in 2002. It's unclear what he's doing for work these days, but according to Instagram account, he's into wakesurfing, motorcycles and his pit bull puppy.Buena Vista Pictures/Instagram
Vinessa Shaw a.k.a. Allison is still acting, but has recently added a new role to her resume: mom. The actress welcomed a baby boy in March.
Vinessa Shaw, who played Max's love interest Allison, is still acting, but has recently added another role to her resume: mom. The actress welcomed a baby boy in March. Buena Vista Pictures/Instagram
You've seen Billy Butcherson way more recently than you probably realized. Actor Doug Jones most recently played the amphibian man in Best Picture winner "The Shape of Water." He also plays Saru on the new CBS All Access "Star Trek: Discovery" series.
You've seen Billy Butcherson way more recently than you probably realized. Actor Doug Jones most recently played the amphibian man in Best Picture winner "The Shape of Water." He also plays Saru on the new CBS All Access "Star Trek: Discovery" series. Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
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Thackery Binx! Actor Sean Murray only appeared in the beginning and end of the film, but played an important part nonetheless. These days, Murray plays Timothy McGee on "NCIS," a role he's portrayed for the last 15 years.
Thackery Binx! Actor Sean Murray only appeared in the beginning and end of the film, but played an important part nonetheless. These days, Murray plays Timothy McGee on "NCIS," a role he's portrayed for the last 15 years. Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
Who can forget Larry Bagby, who had "Ice" shaved into the side of his head in the film. He went on to act in "Walk the Line" and appeared in some episodes of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer." Bagby is still acting in smaller films.
Who can forget the "Hocus Pocus" character with the word "Ice" shaved into the side of his head? Actor Larry Bagby, who played "Ice," went on to act in "Walk the Line" and appeared in some episodes of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer." Bagby is still acting in smaller films. Buena Vista Pictures/Instagram
The other bully in the film, Jay, is played by Tobias Jelinek. Jelinek has guest starred on hit shows including "Shameless," "Stranger Things," "Baskets" and was most recently in Paramount's "American Woman."
The other bully in the film, Jay, is played by Tobias Jelinek. Jelinek has guest-starred on hit shows including "Shameless," "Stranger Things," "Baskets" and, most recently, appeared in Paramount's "American Woman."Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
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Stephanie Faracy, who plays Dani and Max's mom, has also stayed strong on the acting scene having appeared on "How to Get Away With Murder," "Devious Maids" and More. She was also in films including "Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates" and "The Five-Year Engagement."
Stephanie Faracy, who played Dani and Max's mom, has also stayed strong on the acting scene, having appeared on TV's "How to Get Away With Murder," "Devious Maids" and more. She also had roles in films including "Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates" and "The Five-Year Engagement."Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
Charles Rocket played Dani and Max's father in the hit Halloween film. The actor died in 2005 by suicide.
Charles Rocket played Dani and Max's father in the hit Halloween film. The actor died by suicide in 2005. Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
Garry Marshall had an uncredited role as the devil in "Hocus Pocus." Marshall, who was already a well established writer/producer/director went on to direct films like "Princess Diaries," "Raising Helen," "Georgia Rule" and the holiday films like "Mother's Day" and "New Year's Eve." Marshall passed away in 2016 due to complications of pneumonia after suffering a stroke.
Garry Marshall had an uncredited role as the devil. Marshall, who was already a well- established writer/producer/director before "Hocus Pocus," went on to direct films like "Princess Diaries," "Raising Helen," "Georgia Rule" and holiday films including "Mother's Day" and "New Year's Eve." Marshall passed away in 2016 due to complications from pneumonia after suffering a stroke.Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
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Penny Marshall, Garry's sister, also appears in "Hocus Pocus" as the devil's wife. Penny is famous for playing Laverne in "Laverne & Shirley," which was created by Garry and directing "A League of Their Own." After "Hocus Pocus" she acted a little and continued to direct and produce movies.
Garry's sister Penny Marshall also appeared in "Hocus Pocus," playing the devil's wife. Penny is famous for playing Laverne in "Laverne & Shirley," which was created by Garry, and directing "A League of Their Own," and after "Hocus Pocus," she acted a little and has continued to direct and produce movies.Buena Vista Pictures/Getty Images
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