The MacRumors Show: Ross Young Talks Major iPad and Mac Rumors for 2023 and Beyond

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Display analyst Ross Young joins us on The MacRumors Show podcast this week to discuss some of his biggest leaks about Apple's plans for the next year and beyond.

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Ross is co-founder and CEO of Display Supply Chain Consultants (DSCC), a leading display market research firm, and has worked throughout the display supply chain. Ross is one of the top sources of information about Apple's plans and has a huge amount of influence on the rumors space, having revealed a plethora of accurate insights about upcoming Apple devices. See some of Ross's rumors that panned out correctly below:

• The iPhone 12 mini, iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro, and iPhone 12 Pro Max will feature OLED displays that are 5.4-, 6.1-, and 6.7-inches in size respectively, with no ProMotion technology.
• The iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max will be the first iPhones to include ProMotion displays.
• The iPhone SE 3 will continue to feature a 4.7-inch display and launch in 2022.
• The sixth-generation iPad mini 6 will have an 8.3-inch display with slimmer bezels and no Home Button. He also noted that it would not feature ProMotion.
• Redesigned MacBook Pro models will feature 14- and 16-inch displays with ProMotion for refresh rates up to 120Hz.
• Redesigned MacBook Air will feature a 13.6-inch display with no ProMotion or mini-LED technology.

Looking to forecasts for the future, Ross believes:

• 2022's 11-inch iPad Pro will not have a mini-LED display.
• The iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max will feature slightly larger displays with a "pill and hole-punch" design replacing the notch.
• The standard iPhone 14 models will not gain ProMotion.
• The Apple Watch Series 8 will come in three sizes. An additional model with a 1.99-inch display will join the lineup.
• Apple is planning to launch a 27-inch mini-LED external display.
• Apple's mixed-reality headset will feature three displays, including two micro OLED displays along with an AMOLED display.
• In early 2023, Apple will launch an iPad with a 14.1-inch display. It is unlikely to feature ProMotion.
• Apple may launch a fourth-generation iPhone SE with a 5.7-inch display in 2023 or 2024.
• Apple is preparing to launch a ‌MacBook Air‌ or "MacBook" with a 15.2-inch display in 2023.
• The "pill and hole-punch" TrueDepth camera array design will replace the notch on all iPhone 15 models.
• Apple is planning to launch 13-inch MacBook Air, 11-inch iPad Pro, and 12.9-inch iPad Pro models with OLED displays in 2024.
• The "iPhone 16 Pro" models will integrate Face ID under the display, before expanding to all models with the "iPhone 17" lineup in 2025.
• Apple has likely delayed its foldable iPhone to 2025.
• 2026's "iPhone 18 Pro" models will integrate both the Face ID system and the front-facing camera under the display.
• Apple is exploring all-screen foldable notebooks that could launch around 2026 or 2027.

He has also commented on how the iPad mini 7 is unlikely to feature a ProMotion display, and has expressed skepticism about Apple launching a new 12-inch MacBook.

In this episode, we take a look at some of Ross's biggest leaks and rumors for the year ahead, including details about Apple's plans for larger Apple Watch, iPad, and MacBook Air models. We also delve into the rumored mini-LED external display, as well as long-term progress toward Apple under-display technology and foldables.

Ross gives us some insight into his background, work, and fascinating relationship with Apple over the years. He also explains how DSCC works and exactly how it comes across so much accurate information about what Apple is planning to do.

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[satchmo]

No news about iPhone 19?

 

[R2FX]

Good Lord! Those prediction read like Apple lineup from mid 90s before Steve returned 🤦🏼‍♂️

 

[ponzicoinbro]

Jokes on him my prophetic powers see an iPhone 14 Ultra.

 

[WiiDSmoker]

Well I enjoyed it. Not sure what’s up with the nuckleheads above.

 

[ponzicoinbro]

Good Lord! Those prediction read like Apple lineup from mid 90s before Steve returned 🤦🏼‍♂️

Yeah man thats just what we need a really complicated and convoluted line up. Can never make up the mind what to buy. 🤣😂 iPad 15” Air with foldable self walking flying shoes with three screens.

 

[Populus]

Nice to meet you Mr Young.

If you’re reading this, is the next iPhone SE still expected to have a 5.7” display? Is there any chance for it to be LCD and not OLED? Thank you

 

[JPack]

Glad to see Ross Young on this show. He is usually briefing executives and decision makers who pay him big bucks to for his reports.

The best part about Young's info is there's no way for Apple to hide it.

 

[ToxicBlue]

I just want an iPad Pro 11" with mini led display to replace my 2018 iPad Pro that still works amazing, that display plus m2 chip sounds like a good reason to buy a new iPad, the chip alone? not so much.

 

[Arnold Ziffel]

Great to see people like Ross Young, who are knowledgeable and devoid of hype.

As for upcoming Apple products, my wife’s iMac got knocked off her desk by one of our cats (who’d slipped into our home office), breaking the glass on the screen while dislodging the whole assembly from the chassis. Amazingly, I was able to plug in the screen cables, tape the screen on, and get it running. This was early 2020, and we decided to wait for what I thought was the inevitable Apple silicon iMac 27”. Well, we waited until this spring and then bought a Mac Studio Ultra with Apple Studio Display. Great setup. Perhaps Apple will make the larger iMac with Apple Si, but we just got tired of waiting.

 

[svish]

It’s good to see Ross on the show! Many Apple rumors for the next many years!!

 

[The Game 161]

His links to display supply makes all these very likely.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Just finished watching the whole podcast. This was a good episode. Lots of great information and insight. Thank you for inviting him over to the show. Ross is definitely a well-respected source.

 

[melgross]

The only reason why I can see Apple producing a 14” iPad Pro is because of iOS 16 and the new windowing. I’m using the beta in my iPad Pro 12.9” and while it works well enough, I’m so used to the size if the full screen apps, that the slightly smaller size presented this way is disconcerting at times. The 14 would eliminate some of that annoyance. When using more than one window, the oils way was terrible most of the time. With 16, it’s much better, so a larger screen would work even better. Therefore, even if that screen were “only” 60 Hz, it would be acceptable for the use case - mostly. That could be enough for it to be a success.

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

Good Lord! Those prediction read like Apple lineup from mid 90s before Steve returned 🤦🏼‍♂️

Apple's lineup for years now has been going the way of the old Microsoft lineup. Convoluted and confusing. Remember when it was simple? Now I have to explain to people what the versions are, that the newer iPad only supports the Pencil gen1 but an older one supports Pencil gen2 etc. It's a disaster, but what can you expect when a bean counter is running the show. 🤷‍♂️

 

[R2FX]

Apple's lineup for years now has been going the way of the old Microsoft lineup. Convoluted and confusing. Remember when it was simple? Now I have to explain to people what the versions are, that the newer iPad only supports the Pencil gen1 but an older one supports Pencil gen2 etc. It's a disaster, but what can you expect when a bean counter is running the show. 🤷‍♂️

I certainly do - my machines are from 2004, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2013, 2014 … what we have today is incredible display of marketing stupidity (colors) and zero product management (compatibility, ports, overlapping specs)