What exactly will be the difference? It seems to me like it’s the same device, but renamed to something new. Is that a way to sell leftover iPhone 13 components and parts?
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Other Is the next iPhone SE just a face-lifted iPhone 13?
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The current SE 2022 model has 13 internals (a15 bionic). We have no idea what the next will be, but I suspect it will have the a17 from the 15 pro and pro max and have AI capabilities.
Body-wise, probably a 13 or 14 without a sim slot, 60hz screen, notch.
Body-wise, probably a 13 or 14 without a sim slot, 60hz screen, notch.
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Left over parts from the iPhone 13/14, new colours maybe. Single 48mp camera paired with A17 pro or A18 chip. Huge upgrade over the current SE on sale.
14 with a 48MP rear camera and Action button.
Not sure why people keep thinking SE is leftover parts. Even the first SE (2016) used a slightly different chassis compared to iPhone 5S.
Not sure why people keep thinking SE is leftover parts. Even the first SE (2016) used a slightly different chassis compared to iPhone 5S.
If it’s based on the iPhone 14 it may use leftover iPhone 14 cases and from what I’ve read the internals are approximately the same as those of the iPhone 13 mini, so they may be leftover parts from that.
So it seems to be an iPhone 13 mini in an iPhone 14 case, or something like that.
So it seems to be an iPhone 13 mini in an iPhone 14 case, or something like that.
I don't see them using 13 internals. The SE 2022 already has 13 internals.
The 14 camera is smaller and doesn’t use USB-C. That already means a different chassis for SE4. Can’t use “leftover” parts.
Why do people think Apple is so bad at logistics that they have millions of leftover parts?
the iphone SE is not going to have the A17 pro chip from the iphone 15 model i can tell you that it and its not going to have AI the iphone SE will have the A16 or A17 chip set but nothing pro
It's going to have whatever chip/ram combo is necessary to have Apple AI. They will be pushing it across the board, SE included.
The question cannot be answered at this point in time much less complain about a product that hasn't been released. It is illogical.
I read they will get donated leftover parts from Huawei, GE
and Ford. With some AI and glue the new SE4 will be born
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It’s not a matter of being bad, sometimes you estimate sales wrongly (just as with the iPhone 12 and 13 mini). Then you have a bunch of leftover parts and you need to do find a different way to make something out of it. Which often means rebranding and selling to a different target group. This is a standard procedure in international business.
Apple runs a JIT process meaning they stockpile few or no components. If an iPhone sells poorly, Apple would simply pay the penalty in the contract for a decreased commitment. We saw this with iPhone X and Samsung. Apple paid $950 million rather than launch random products with OLED panels.
iPhone SE design has an average life of four years. That means tens of millions of units sold over that period. Would it make sense for Apple make additional copies of poorly sold parts rather than do what’s right and design something their research suggests will sell well?
No, it definitely will not. They're limiting it to phones with 8GB of RAM. The regular iphone 15 doesn't even have that, neither do the 13 and 14 Pros which all have 6GB RAM, they're not going to give it to the SE which will more than likely have 4GB of RAM only.
We can only guess but my logic goes something along the lines of.
The 16 series (4 phones) will be released in October 2024
The SE will be released spring 2025
When the 16 series are released the 13 won't be sold anymore but the 14, 15 and SE 2022 will be.
When the SE 2025 is released the only phone left with lightning will be the iPhone 14 that prob will be sold till fall 2025.
THe SE2025 will have the A16 or A17, maybe a low spec A17 "se" version but enough to be able to offer AI. The same goes for RAM, enough to offer basic AI.
Might be in a iPhone 14 ish case but support for USB-C.
The rumour is that 5 phones will be released using the A17 CPU, and since the can make different versions of it I'm guessing there will be a Pro, regular and "SE" version of the CPU but all A17.
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Personally I think it would be awesome to make an SE version from a revised 13 mini case, but it won't happen.
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Since AI is the “hottest thing” at the moment, they will shoot themself in the leg if the next SE won't support it.