#86 - Martin Short is a national treasure

Ben and Chris chat with Brad Clifford of Clifford Brewing about his early days as a nano-brewer in Toronto and his move to Hamilton, the soon-to-be-cool NOBA district, why he enters — and wins! — so many damn awards, and why he doesn’t actually drink that much porter. Plus: Cliffolini! Charles Grodin cult classics! A barking dog!