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Faith Versus Fact: Why Science and Religion are Incompatible Hardcover – 25 Jun. 2015
We are living today in a genuinely frightening scenario: religion and science are engaged in a kind of war: a war for understanding, a war about whether we should have good reasons for what we accept as true. The sheer fact that over half of Americans don't believe in evolution (to say nothing of the number of Congressmen who don't believe in climate change) and the resurgence of religious prejudices and strictures as factors in politics, education, medicine, and social policy make the need for this book urgent.
Religion and science compete in many ways to describe reality - they both make "existence claims" about what is real - but they use different tools to meet this goal. In his elegant, provocative, and direct argument, leading evolutionary biologist and bestselling author Jerry Coyne lays out in clear, patient, dispassionate details why the toolkit of science, based on reason and empirical study, is reliable, while that of religion - including faith, dogma and revelation - is unreliable and leads to incorrect, untestable, or conflicting conclusions. Indeed, by relying on faith, religion renders itself incapable of finding truth.
- Print length200 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherPenguin
- Publication date25 Jun. 2015
- Dimensions15.88 x 3.18 x 23.5 cm
- ISBN-100670026530
- ISBN-13978-0670026531
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Jerry A. Coyne has been a professor at the University of Chicago in the department of ecology and evolution for twenty years. He specializes in evolutionary genetics and works predominantly on the origin of new species. He is a regular contributor to The New Republic, the Times Literary Supplement, and other publications.
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He deals with each and every argument that can be made as to why they are compatible, the most obvious being that many scientists have a religious belief, though only a very small proportion of the total (as many as 93% 0f scientists are atheists). His case is simply that religious belief is possible in scientists because they are able to compartmentalise those beliefs. He puts it that they ‘leave their scientific credentials at the church door each Sunday’. In other words, clever people can act in ways that, in other circumstances, they would themselves consider illogical.
Every single argument that the religious can bring to the fore is dealt with, and in the highly scholarly way that one would expect from Dr Coyne, whilst at the same time being incredibly understandable to ordinary readers. It’s easy to buy into his argument that science looks for answers, based on observation, then seeks evidence. Religion, on the other hand, starts with the answers it’s already decided on, then seeks either to avoid the evidence, or to make up its own, or to contrive it to give it the appearance of support.
The problem for those who don’t like Dr Coyne’s message is that he’s stolen all of their ammunition. Every single argument that they can possibly make to refute him is dealt with in his book, and then some. I note the only one star comment that has, so far been made. It appears to me to be very suspect in its origin. It’s an American based comment, and there’s nothing unusual about that, but its tone suggests an attempt by the American religious lobby to try and do some book hi-jacking. The comment refers to other books that supposedly run contrary to Dr Coyne’s. Well maybe they do, but I doubt any are as scholarly or well argued and, in any event, accommodationism is a fairly recently developed concept. Stephen Jay Gould’s NOMA held sway for sometime, but that is now pretty well debunked by this book. If others want to take him on then, quite frankly, they are going to find it very difficult, as without new arguments they are bound to fall into the trap of saying something that is refuted in the book.
Staying with the one star comment for a moment longer, I have to say I’m not convinced when the writer says he/she is not a Christian. That’s a pretty normal claim when trying to get taken seriously, so I do have my doubts. At one point the comment suggests Dr Coyne might be a creationist! Obviously not entirely serious, I assume, given that he is author of Why Evolution is True, but I wonder if it suggests that the comment writer is a creationist? The point is, however, that creationism is perhaps the most potent example of how science and religion really aren’t compatible, and to refer to Dr Coyne in this way is, of course, ridiculous.
The commenter also refers to Dr Coyne and his qualifuications. Well here he really does look foolish. Perhaps if Dr Coyne had ‘bought’ one of the theological doctorates so loved by American pastors, then he’d be better qualified? What rubbish. Theology training is great for learning the history of religion, and it is indeed a very comprehensive course when done properly, but does not necessarily help in religious philosophical debate. The problem the religious have in getting into these types of debate is that they can’t win when it comes to trying to bring qualifications into the discussion. It’s impossible for the run of the mill religious people (indeed, anyone at all) to get into debate with scientists on matters of science, yet on matters of philosophy and religion it is relatively easy for anybody, with a little rational thinking and knowledge of the concepts, to be able to argue with the best. One has only to see how easily Willam Lane Craig has been debunked (outside of debate) by non-religiously qualified people, to realise how far the argument has been taken.
At the end of the day Dr Coyne’s book is probably best summed up by asking what religion and science has given us in terms of truth, or in terms simply of human convenience. The list relating to science is almost infinite. That resulting from religion; nil.
After spending the opening chapters presenting the evidence for his thesis and defining terms Coyne then tackles the arguments of accomodationists (such as Gould's famous NOMA concept) and why they fail. Coyne points out, using examples such as evolution and the creationist myth of Adam and Eve, the issues that arise when science out and out contradicts religious dogma.
He then goes on to describe some of the ways in which religion then attempts to encroach on science via 'new natural theology' or even to denigrate scientific endeavour as an unreliable path to knowledge. It's here that Coyne really gets into his stride, methodically dismantling the usual arguments for God of such bent including those from fine-tuning or morality, among others.
Finally, why does it matter? Coyne wraps up by showing how religion and its reliance on faith without supporting evidence is not just a danger to science, to the public understanding of science but has also led to real and needless harm and suffering.
People who are familiar with Jerry Coyne's blog; Why Evolution is True will probably be aware of some of his arguments and lines of reasoning but to suggest that this book is just an expanded version of his blog posts really doesn't do it any justice. This is a smashing book, well constructed, presented and written in a way that will engage and appeal to the general reader. Anyone familiar with Coyne's previous work Why Evolution is True (for my money, the best account of evolution written for the popular audience) will be aware that he is a gifted popular science writer and this book confirms that.
Readers who enjoyed FvF might also like to consider Carl Sagan's very excellent book The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
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[2] The printing and the inner pages are good but the paper used for the cover pages were of a poor quality.
[3] The one thing which irritated me (unbearably) was that, both the cover and back page were smaller in width than the inner pages by a millimetre or two. Doesn't seems much, but it sure is.
[4] Costs more than what's printed on the book.
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[1] Although I'm sure that the content of the book must be good, the quality of the one which I recieved, in India, was below average.
[2] The printing and the inner pages are good but the paper used for the cover pages were of a poor quality.
[3] The one thing which irritated me (unbearably) was that, both the cover and back page were smaller in width than the inner pages by a millimetre or two. Doesn't seems much, but it sure is.
[4] Costs more than what's printed on the book.
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“Faith Versus Fact" is an excellent book that presents the persuasive argument that while faith and science compete to describe reality; science is the best tool to find out what is true about our universe. Evolutionary geneticist Jerry A. Coyne follows up his masterpiece of Why Evolution Is True, with an outstanding book of its own that clearly separates science from religion. This persuasive 336-page book includes the following five chapters: 1. The Problem, 2. What’s Incompatible?, 3. Why Accommodationism Fails, 4. Faith Strikes Back, and 5. Why Does It Matter?
Positives:
1. Professor Coyne is a persuasive writer. Well-written and well-reasoned book. Engaging and accessible.
2. A great topic; why science and religion are incompatible.
3. Great use of logic, history, reason and facts to persuade the audience at an accessible level.
4. A quote fest, “The good thing about science is that it’s true whether or not you believe in it by Neil deGrasse Tyson”.
5. Clearly states his main thesis. “…understanding reality, in the sense of being able to use what we know to predict what we don’t, is best achieved using the tools of science, and is never achieved using the methods of faith.” “My claim is this: science and religion are incompatible because they have different methods for getting knowledge about reality, have different ways of assessing the reliability of that knowledge, and, in the end, arrive at conflicting conclusions about the universe.”
6. Makes a very strong case that there are very clear differences between science and religion. “Science and religion, then, are competitors in the business of finding out what is true about our universe. In this goal religion has failed miserably, for its tools for discerning ‘truth’ are useless. These areas are incompatible in precisely the same way, and in the same sense, that rationality is incompatible with irrationality.”
7. The three reasons why the issue of science versus religion has been revived. “The conflict between religion and evolution didn’t really get going until religious fundamentalism arose in early-twentieth-century America.”
8. An expose of the Templeton foundation.
9. Clarity and lucidity of thought throughout the book. “These are empirical claims, and although some may be hard to test, they must, like all claims about reality, be defended with a combination of evidence and reason. If we find no credible evidence, no good reasons to believe, then those claims should be disregarded, just as most of us ignore claims about ESP, astrology, and alien abduction.”
10. A good explanation of what constitutes science. “What is “known” may sometimes change, so science isn’t really a fixed body of knowledge. What remains is what I really see as “science,” which is simply a method for understanding how the universe (matter, our bodies and behavior, the cosmos, and so on) actually works. Science is a set of tools, refined over hundreds of years, for getting answers about nature.” “Scientific truth is never absolute, but provisional.”
11. Provocative. “There is simply no way that any faith can prove beyond question that its claims are true while those of other faiths are false.”
12. The problems with religion. “Religion begins with beliefs based not on observation, but on revelation, authority (often that of scripture), and dogma.” “Take the Resurrection of Jesus, for which the only supporting evidence is the contradictory accounts of the Gospels.”
13. Clearly explains why accommodationism fails and does a great job of dissecting the problems with non-overlapping magisterial (NOMA) that popularized Gould. “In the end, NOMA is simply an unsatisfying quarrel about labels that, unless you profess a watery deism, cannot reconcile science and religion.”
14. Miracles in perspective. “Miracles were really the result of fraud, ignorance, or misrepresentation.”
15. Destroys myths with expertise. “But science has completely falsified the idea of a historical Adam and Eve, and on two grounds. First, our species wasn’t poofed into being by a sudden act of creation. We know beyond reasonable doubt that we evolved from a common ancestor with modern chimps, an ancestor living around six million years ago. Modern human traits—which include our brain and genetically determined behaviors—evolved gradually.”
16. Mormonism takes a direct hit. “But as with the existence of Adam and Eve, both genetics and archaeology have shown that the Middle Eastern origin of Native Americans is a fiction.” Game over.
17. Morality as it relates to evolution. “Finally, and perhaps most important, evolution means that human morality, rather than being imbued in us by God, somehow arose via natural processes: biological evolution involving natural selection on behavior, and cultural evolution involving our ability to calculate, foresee, and prefer the results of different behaviors.” “We have an enhanced morality but it is the product of culture, not biology.”
18. Looks at popular arguments in defense of “God” only to reject them with ease. “Rather than assuming that the world was created for humans, the more reasonable hypothesis is that humans evolved to adapt to the world they confronted.”
19. The faith in reason tactic. “My response to the ‘no justification’ claim is that the superiority of science at finding objective truth comes not from philosophy but from experience. Science gives predictions that work. Everything we know about biology, the cosmos, physics, and chemistry has come through science—not revelation, the arts, or any other ‘way of knowing.’”
20. The harm of ill-founded dogma. “The harm, as I’ve said repeatedly, comes not from the existence of religion itself, but from its reliance on and glorification of faith—belief, or, if you will, ‘trust’ or ‘confidence’—without supporting evidence.”
21. Notes and references included.
Negatives:
1. Why Evolution Is True was such a great book it’s hard to live up to those lofty expectations.
2. Philosophy and theology is not Coyne’s forte but he provides enough to make his case.
3. Lack of charts and visuals to complement the narrative.
4. I would have liked to have seen a bit more on the legal side. Examples of religion doing harm and a summary of cases where science and religion intersect besides the obligatory mention of the 1925 Scopes “Monkey Trial”.
In summary, a book worthy of five stars. Sure it’s not the masterpiece that I Why Evolution Is True but it’s a book that needed to be written and is another great contribution to society. Religion fails to accurately describe the universe as it really is and in fact has impeded progress. Coyne makes the persuasive case that science is the best method to find the truths about his world and you will not get any disagreement for yours truly. An excellent book, I highly recommend it!
Further suggestions: “Why Evolution Is True” by the same author, “Undeniable” by Bill Nye, “God and the Multiverse” by Victor J. Stenger, “Science and Religion” by Daniel C. Dennett, “Why People Believe Weird Things” by Michael Shermer, “Atheism for Dummies” by Dale McGowan, “The Soul Fallacy” by Julien Musolino, “Why Are You Atheists So Angry?: 99 Things That Piss Off the Godless” by Greta Christina, “A Manual for Creating Atheists” by Peter Boghosian, “God Is Not Great” by Christopher Hitchens, “The God Virus” by Darrel Ray, “Moral Combat” by Sikivu Hutchinson, “Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, “Nonbeliever Nation” by David Niose, “Freethinkers” by Susan Jacoby, “Nailed” by David Fitzgerald, and “Think” by Guy P. Harrison.